Columbia SWAT team shoots corgi

[speedgod^s13]

YouTube - Columbia Mo SWAT Raid 2/11/2010. Cops Shoot Pets With Children Present (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbwSwvUaRqc)
Discuss.

[Brian]

Whatever. It's an animal.

[shiftdrift]

i would have punched that fuck in the face. what a piece of shit SWAT team. it was NOT needed to do that. scrubs.

[Brian]

hahaha yeah, you would have punched the SWAT team guy in the face.

Come on, at least say something that's actually real.

[shiftdrift]

haha, yeah it was kind of i just felt like saying that. in reality, i would have laid down on the floor and flipped the fuck out. but seriously, they shouldn't have shot the dog.

[speedgod^s13]

Whatever. It's an animal.

Are you just saying that, or do you truly mean it?

[Brian]

Well, I kind of mean it.


Do we know the whole story? Where was the dog? Do we know it was a Corgi?
Are you aware of SWAT tactics, limitations, procedures, etc. ?


Personally, I don't know any of this info.

Maybe the dog was a threat. I don't know though.

They must have found some need to end the dog's life. let me know if there is an entire story to this. I'd like to know.

[shiftdrift]

the dog was in a cage.....where it couldn't get out.

[Brian]

Sorry if it's a stupid question, but how do we know that?

[shiftdrift]

"This video shows a search warrant served by the Columbia Mo. police department. The cops bust in this guys house in the middle of the night and shoot his two dogs (one a pit bull that was caged in the kitchen and the other a Corgi) with children in the home. it turns out that rather than a big time drug dealer, this guy had a small pipe with some resin in it, a grinder, and what the cops here call "a small amount of marijuana" (meaning less than a few grams). We here in Comlumbia want everyone to know what kind of police department we have here, check out our "finest" in action."

[Brian]

Oh, I see. Somebody decided to write a caption on a public video site explaining exactly what happened, huh? I'm sure that is a VERY credible source.... (sarcasm)



I could go outside right now, film the sun, then upload it to Youtube and write a description saying it's the Son of God coming down from the heavens above. So, is that a fact?




Anyway, if I had to throw out a guess as to why they killed the dog, it would be this. This seems to be a HIGH danger raid they are doing (notice their equipment). Now, something like a loud barking dog could probably muffle the sound of other people in the house possibly sneaking up around a corner with a weapon. I would have to guess that the Officers probably want as little background noise as possible for the success and safety of the mission.

Again, I really have no idea, but that would be a reasonable guess, I think.





Of course, this is Zilvia and the easy thing to say is "fuck the police. power tripping fuckers". I suppose.

[SoCal-s130]

http://www.humorhaus.com/images/doggiecomputer.jpg

[shiftdrift]

Oh, I see. Somebody decided to write a caption on a public video site explaining exactly what happened, huh? I'm sure that is a VERY credible source.... (sarcasm)



I could go outside right now, film the sun, then upload it to Youtube and write a description saying it's the Son of God coming down from the heavens above. So, is that a fact?




Anyway, if I had to throw out a guess as to why they killed the dog, it would be this. This seems to be a HIGH danger raid they are doing (notice their equipment). Now, something like a loud barking dog could probably muffle the sound of other people in the house possibly sneaking up around a corner with a weapon. I would have to guess that the Officers probably want as little background noise as possible for the success and safety of the mission.

Again, I really have no idea, but that would be a reasonable guess, I think.





Of course, this is Zilvia and the easy thing to say is "fuck the police. power tripping fuckers". I suppose.
yeah, maybe you should search into it, not hating BH, but there's more to it.

[Brian]

I don't feel like searching into it. If somebody has a writeup to the story, I'd read it.
I don't think it's right at ALL to kill a dog for no reason. That's bullshit.

I'm not hating either. I'm just trying to figure out the story. Obviously it was posted to get negative feelings for the police.

[J3123MY]

Holy shit. That was a crazy ass video.

This shit actually happened to my friend, too, they busted in his house and found basically nothing.

If I was that guy, I would be pissed the fuck off. He was even like tripping out wondering what the fuck he did, so I kinda do believe that they basically didn't find anything. "Why you gotta be like this?" lol. ( I didnt see a Corgi, btw)

And fucking cop, I have a right to know your name. Lol.

This video is scary. Who knows when the police are gonna bust up your house, shoot your dogs, and throw you in jail?

I feel sorry for the dogs. I am sure most of us had pets before. How would you feel one day if the cops shot them up?

[Brian]

Yeah man, better keep your eyes out. They ARE after you all the time, it's just a question of WHEN they will strike!!!

[J3123MY]

Lol. That shit happened to my friend man, and it was the same kind of bull shit. It happens. The video is like a major example, but its also the small everyday shit where police step over their line of power. That shit is not right.

They must have found some need to end the dog's life.

LOL, honestly what is the dog going to do to the swat team? Its like shooting a 13 year old that was flailing his arms at you. They are both not lethal, and cannot basically do any damage, at least against a fully armed swat team.

[Brian]

You must not have read what I wrote about a possible reason they shot the dog.
If you want to, read what I wrote and if you agree, cool. If not, cool.

I'm not in SWAT. I don't know the procedures. I'm going to assume most people here are not in SWAT either.

[HyperTek]

before people say "they did their job they did the right thing, you do not know what its like to be a swat member" hehehe

Im sure the guy they got had it coming. I do feel bad for the dogs. =(

[iHeartTheTouge]

Family questions SWAT drug search that led to dog?s death | ColumbiaTribune.com (http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/feb/23/family-questions-swat-drug-search-that-led-to/)


A man arrested on suspicion of drug charges and child endangerment said he is concerned with the actions of police who shot two dogs they described as “aggressive” while serving a drug-related search warrant at his home earlier this month in southwest Columbia.
Police arrested Jonathan E. Whitworth, 25, of 1501 Kinloch Court on Feb. 11 on suspicion of possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of marijuana and second-degree child endangerment.

A police SWAT team entered Whitworth’s residence around 8:30 p.m. suspecting a large amount of marijuana at the location, police spokeswoman Officer Jessie Haden said. SWAT members encountered a pit bull upon entry, held back and then fatally shot the dog, which officers said was acting in an uncontrollably aggressive manner.
Whitworth was arrested, and his wife and 7-year-old son were present during the SWAT raid, Haden said. A second dog, which Whitworth’s attorney Jeff Hilbrenner described as a corgi, also was shot but was not killed.
“The family is concerned with what happened,” Hilbrenner said. “We don’t feel like what happened in the home was appropriate. The priority right now for us is the misdemeanor charges.”
Police discovered a grinder, a pipe and a small amount of marijuana, Haden said. Because the SWAT team acts on the most updated information available, the team wanted to enter the house before marijuana believed to be at the location could be distributed, she said.
“If you let too much time go by, then the drugs are not there,” she said.
Drug distributors traditionally have a history with firearms, which is why the SWAT team is used when executing such warrants, Haden said. If the SWAT team believed they could have executed the warrant successfully during the daytime when the wife and child were not present, they would have, she said.Heres a map of botched SWAT raids from across the country dating back to 1985. I spent atleast an hour reading these stories.
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

[speedgod^s13]

I don't feel like searching into it. If somebody has a writeup to the story, I'd read it.
I don't think it's right at ALL to kill a dog for no reason. That's bullshit.

I'm not hating either. I'm just trying to figure out the story. Obviously it was posted to get negative feelings for the police.

You don't want people to assume, why the dogs got shot. But yet here you are, assuming that I posted this story up, to get negative feelings for the police. That's funny, i'm currently on the waiting list, to become a Honolulu police officer. There are bad cops out there, just as there are good ones. Everyone makes mistakes, but the difference is if you are man enough to admit it. Cop or not.

[HemiCharger]

cops bust into this house and kill the dogs? I could see them killing the pit bull but a corgi? give me a freaking break. Any dog with bark at any intruders especially dirty, corrupt ass crooked cops.

they suk for sure.

[Brian]

I was moreso talking about the actual video being posted on Youtube with the description that it has.


All YOU said was "discuss" in your description.

[mrflip69]

SWAT wouldn't write up ref tickets. SWAT = OK by my book :)~

[HemiCharger]

man whatever if they busted into this dudes house and only charged him with misdos then he is gonna get PAID. What a bunch of over achievers? don't they have better things to do then bust in this dudes house and kill his dogs and scare his kids all for some probation and less than 1000 dollars in fines. Man I thought SWAT could only serve felony warrants and if it was blanket which if I was his lawyer I would try to prove then he will get even more money.

[Bluejayde]

They went in on "evidence" (probably an anonymous tip) that said he was a mid-level dealer. Their "intelligence" didn't even know he was married or had a kid, so how good could it be? Remember this is in a town that has made possession of under an ounce a misdemeanor- some 60% of the citizens couldn't care less about pot. The SWAT team is made up of regular officers who get paid overtime for raids. The cops in this town are beginning to acquire a reputation for corruption and excessive force- check out the recent taserings....

[ronmcdon]

^^
Thats true.
It seems the intel was terribly off.
SWAT ought to be at least held accountable for that.

Having pets killed or not, it would be inconvenient to have some bogus SWAT raid at your house.

If you wanted to play a prank on your nieghbor maybe this would work.
Just call 911, and say they are druglords and pedophiles.
Maybe I should suggest this to that OT thread where the OP is complaining about the neighor's obnoxious peacock.

[handinpants]

that just ruined my night

[J3123MY]

Anyway, if I had to throw out a guess as to why they killed the dog, it would be this. This seems to be a HIGH danger raid they are doing (notice their equipment). Now, something like a loud barking dog could probably muffle the sound of other people in the house possibly sneaking up around a corner with a weapon. I would have to guess that the Officers probably want as little background noise as possible for the success and safety of the mission.

So what if a baby is crying really loud? SWAT should shoot the baby cuz it might muffle the sound of others. lol. Lets shoot everything thats loud and makes noise.

But I can kind of understand a cop killing a pit bull. Those shits are crazy, but I mean there are various non lethal methods. I mean you can hit the dog with the but of your gun, thats a lot better then shooting and killing it.

[chucky norris]

yeah the hole dog thing is f ed up and busting into peoples houses like that . . . . shieeet not cool

[keistyle]

They shot the dog, because they never get to shoot anything else.

[HyperTek]

well think how expensive replacing those dogs can be, esp pure breed dogs can cost alot.

[BustedS13]

I went to Mizzou. the cops were known cockbags.
more pissed that my tax dollars pay for this shit. this much manpower was wasted on making bad PR and charging somebody for having an ounce? jesus christ.

[Walperstyle]

lol at Internet debaters.

another video for people that..
a) were not there
b)don't know the people involved
c)don't have all the facts and never will
..to discuss and solve nothing over the internet.
I'm on the side of SWAT just simply because they don't shoot if they don't have to. I love dogs(like a lot), but i'm not going to 'fight the man' based on some youtube video

[Bluejayde]

I went to Mizzou. the cops were known cockbags.
more pissed that my tax dollars pay for this shit. this much manpower was wasted on making bad PR and charging somebody for having an ounce? jesus christ.

Just to clarify, the dude had a pipe in a sock drawer and the equivalent of a bowl of green. We live in one of the biggest METH capitols in the US (Boone County respresent!) and these guys are getting paid overtime to raid houses, shoot dogs, abuse citizens, and endanger children. The local taxpayers, the people that vote the politicians in and pay the law enforcements salary, don't care about weed. We have serious problems in our town, and we don't want our money wasted on BULLSHIT. Once again the politicians have their own agenda and fail to represent the PEOPLE. Once again, the police fail to "serve and protect".

Edit: In case you haven't noticed, I live here. I'll be debating here, on other forums, at school, and at the town council meeting.

[flip3d]

Columbia cops strike again.

Couple of examples from last year...

They ran over a pedestrian in front of my friends apartment complex and claimed he was laying in the middle of the road. Cop was suspended with pay.

There was a guy sitting on top of an I70 overpass. When they finally got him to come down they tazed him when he was half way down and he fell 20~feet.

I've never heard so much shit about the police until I lived there.

[Persona]

Oh no a dog barked and got aggressive when a bunch of weird smelling men entered its home. That's what dogs do, surprise.


Sissys

[HalveBlue]

Not all SWAT teams are created equal. Some are composed of dedicated professionals; most are made up of officers who, as has been mentioned already, get paid overtime and seldom have the training required for such missions.

The use of SWAT teams to serve routine warrants has skyrocketed over the last few years.

All in all, I'm not so much concerned with the officers in this situation as with the judicial/law enforcement system that put them there in the first place.

I probably would've shot the dog too, by the way.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Sounds like a specious reason for the invasion of the house to begin with.

The war on drugs is a war on privacy and peace. The war on drugs is the reason for drug-related violence, is the reason for the militarization of the police force and is the reason for our involvement in so many places of the globe.

[Brian]

tee hee
I'm gonna get you, police.

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[thefro526]

tee hee
I'm gonna get you, police.



BH, your comments in this thread made me laugh my ass off. Thank you.

On topic though, if SWAT is raiding a house that means that they have at least some information on the people inside. SWAT clearly thought drugs were in the house. Maybe the home owner shouldn't put themselves in a position to get their house raided?

As far as the dogs go, if those guys shot a corgi (greatest dog ever) then there must have been a reason for it. Just sayin'.

Also, I'm not pro-police or anything, I'm just a fan of government/municipal/state employees doing their job, because if not, then why am I paying taxes? If I'm in the wrong and the police hassle me for it, then well it's my fault - I knew what I was doing was wrong.

[BlueKpS13]

Shooting a dog is necessary if it poses a threat to the officer.

Welsh Corgi? And animal that is not known for violence, and comes up to your shin? Cops must be real tough guys if they feel threatened by a 35 pound ball of fur that runs slower than humans...

[Mikey213]

HAHAHA at least this isn't some Vietnamese family about to hack a baby husky alive for brunch...

[KA24DESOneThree]

Also, I'm not pro-police or anything, I'm just a fan of government/municipal/state employees doing their job, because if not, then why am I paying taxes? If I'm in the wrong and the police hassle me for it, then well it's my fault - I knew what I was doing was wrong.

But this man wasn't doing anything wrong. He hurt no one, physically or economically. There was no evidence that he intended to initiate any force upon anyone.

These cops weren't doing their job. Their job is to keep the peace and help the citizenry. Instead they disturb the peace and kill the citizenry's dogs.

Why the hell are you paying taxes?

[theicecreamdan]

Also, I'm not pro-police or anything, I'm just a fan of government/municipal/state employees doing their job, because if not, then why am I paying taxes? If I'm in the wrong and the police hassle me for it, then well it's my fault - I knew what I was doing was wrong.

Yeah, those assholes better at least make themselves LOOK busy!

[SoSideways]

So what if a baby is crying really loud? SWAT should shoot the baby cuz it might muffle the sound of others. lol. Lets shoot everything thats loud and makes noise.

But I can kind of understand a cop killing a pit bull. Those shits are crazy, but I mean there are various non lethal methods. I mean you can hit the dog with the but of your gun, thats a lot better then shooting and killing it.

Pitbulls are not crazy.

The mean ones are results of their owners treating them like shit and making them mean, and then breeding them and selling their pups to other "thugs" for status symbol.

There are plenty of Pitbulls that will just come up to you, flop on the floor and roll over for you to rub their bellies, and all they want to do is play and cuddle with you.

There are plenty of Chihuahuas out there that are much more aggressive than Pitbulls, but nobody deems them dangerous because they're small, but truth be told, them shits are probably a lot more "aggressive" because of their Napoleon Complex.

well think how expensive replacing those dogs can be, esp pure breed dogs can cost alot.

The cost is only one thing.

A pet is somebody's companion, usually loved by an owner, or in this case, a whole family. You can't exactly put a price on a loved one and have it reimbursed and call it good.

Oh no a dog barked and got aggressive when a bunch of weird smelling men entered its home. That's what dogs do, surprise.


Sissys

Pretty much.

Even the well trained dogs will be surprised and at least bark a few times under that kind of circumstance.

Not all SWAT teams are created equal. Some are composed of dedicated professionals; most are made up of officers who, as has been mentioned already, get paid overtime and seldom have the training required for such missions.

The use of SWAT teams to serve routine warrants has skyrocketed over the last few years.

All in all, I'm not so much concerned with the officers in this situation as with the judicial/law enforcement system that put them there in the first place.

I probably would've shot the dog too, by the way.

I agree with the first 3 paragraphs, but the last one... really?

Unless the dog was doing stuff to you like the K9 officers are trained to do, you know, bite down on someone's arm and not let go and try to bring the person down, or if they're straight up trying to bite your face off, then yeah I can understand that you might want to shoot it or something to get it away from you.

But there are other ways of going about it.

Again, this probably falls under the fact that these officers were not trained to do this kind of mission, thus they panicked and started shooting.

However, reports were that the dog was in a cage and cannot get out, so why shoot it?

BH, your comments in this thread made me laugh my ass off. Thank you.

On topic though, if SWAT is raiding a house that means that they have at least some information on the people inside. SWAT clearly thought drugs were in the house. Maybe the home owner shouldn't put themselves in a position to get their house raided?

As far as the dogs go, if those guys shot a corgi (greatest dog ever) then there must have been a reason for it. Just sayin'.

Also, I'm not pro-police or anything, I'm just a fan of government/municipal/state employees doing their job, because if not, then why am I paying taxes? If I'm in the wrong and the police hassle me for it, then well it's my fault - I knew what I was doing was wrong.

Whoever was collecting intelligence for this SWAT team obviously didn't do their job, or else they would know that there was only the guy, his wife and his kid, and their two dogs at home when the team went in to execute the search warrant.

And they would also know if he sold drugs, and how much he sells on average.

Shooting a dog is necessary if it poses a threat to the officer.

Welsh Corgi? And animal that is not known for violence, and comes up to your shin? Cops must be real tough guys if they feel threatened by a 35 pound ball of fur that runs slower than humans...

Um... they can run faster than humans, by a lot, and if they're 35lbs they're way overweight, and at that point, yes, you would be correct in saying that they cannot run faster than humans.

They're usually 20-25lbs on average, and are quite fast, seeing as they're herders.

HAHAHA at least this isn't some Vietnamese family about to hack a baby husky alive for brunch...

Wow, you're still living in the 80s stereotyping different cultures are we?





Bottom line, these dudes don't seem like they know what they're doing (the way they entered the house and moved through the house was kinda n00b like), and their intel sucks balls.

The officers are probably not trained very well for SWAT type operations, and whoever gathers information for them needs to be fired, especially if these dudes are "planning" on being "serious" about coming down on drugs and drug dealers.

BTW, that pic of the corgi on the laptop was hilarious Kyle lol

I've been meaning to take one of mine and seeing it up so it looks like he's on the computer lol

[Silviaoneday]

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LMAO wow thats great, on a serious note that was kinda shitty what happen.