SR sitting outside for 3 years?

[bees]

hello everyone! had a quick question. im thinking about picking up an SR from my friend. only downside is that its been sitting outside for the past 3 years. he said it was covered but then he also said he wasnt sure it was going to start. engine was running before he totaled his car. jw what i should look out for before buying it?

[lflkajfj12123]

You know how long japanese engines sit in junk yards in japan before they get imported here?

I think you'll be fine just inspect for usual bad signs.

[va240dude]

replace all the gaskets and go, or just rebuild it, either way it should be fine if it was covered.

[Walperstyle]

Like any engine that I know has been sitting around, I'd take it apart completely, and at least blueprint it and replace the bearings to FSM specs, and the little things too like seals and gaskets.

The only time I would not do this is if I saw it running like a couple days before it was in my possession.


This is just me though, I have tools and a garage. Many of you don't.

[dOMEmE]

if you take a pic of it maybe you could get tad bit better responses...but i 2 say gaskets and seals.

[jim1234664]

youre talking so cal not buffalo, from what I understand it rarely rains out there whats the huge difference between it sitting outside and in a garage?

[whitey240]

My SR looked like it was used as a boat anchor on the way over. No issues with it at all. If it was running before just put it an go. Don't mess with all the gaskets seals whatever. Just deal with the issues as they come up.

[bb4_96]

^^ Thats a really good idea.

[Max_PSi]

My SR looked like it was used as a boat anchor on the way over. No issues with it at all. If it was running before just put it an go. Don't mess with all the gaskets seals whatever. Just deal with the issues as they come up.

You do realize its easier to replace all the seals and gaskets with the motor out of the car right?

[sirfallsalot243]

Price should reflect the condition of the motor. If its sat out for 3 years, id pay $1500 TOPS for motor, trans, ecu, harness.

[JDM Sil4ty]

Price should reflect the condition of the motor. If its sat out for 3 years, id pay $1300 TOPS for motor, trans, ecu, harness.

+1 :rimshot:

[ayuaddict]

lol just say fuck the lemons and bail.

[ericcastro]

Price should reflect the condition of the motor. If its sat out for 3 years, id pay $1500 TOPS for motor, trans, ecu, harness.

??

thats a joke right??

$300 and do a light rebuild.
The dry heat of CA is bad for sitting engines too.
you ever see an engine sit in the desert for a couple years?
SoCal is a desert, we just pump water in for landscaping.

And I bet after 3 years, that engine isnt sealed up nicely.

[lightsource]

You know how long japanese engines sit in junk yards in japan before they get imported here?

I think you'll be fine just inspect for usual bad signs.

yeah +1,

here's my proposition... are you planning on rebuilding it?

If so, rebuild it while it's out of the engine, I don't know how long the engines I've swapped into cars have been sitting but most sr20's that I have swapped run clean and don't have any problems at all. But this isn't from a front clip, it's from your buddy's car.

If your buddy trusts the engine and you trust your buddy go ahead, if you're going to rebuild the engine in the future you might as well do it now. A stock bottom end will hold up to 400horse.

[DALAZ_68]

replace all the gaskets and go, or just rebuild it, either way it should be fine if it was covered.
^^^^^^^

replace the gaskets...obviously if you have a mechanic who knows what he's doing do it, he'll be able to inspect for any damage (i.e. head cracked from accident, VC damage, internals damage), plus, it will also be a great piece of mind that you dont have to worry about the gaskets... especially the PITA ones...

if you have enough change, replace pump and timing chain, i know alot of people here will tell you its not neccessay and that there motors ran for XX,XXX amount of miles b4 it went, well it might have lasted a bit longer if you would take your time...


im tryin to reach out to you now, b4 you become another "so how do i chain _______ gasket, it just went" thread...

[ayuaddict]

just see if it works. it takes like what, 45 minutes to put a SR into a 240?

[wh0aitznic0]

lol just say fuck the lemons and bail.

<333 Forgetting Sarah Marshall.

[rollout240]

??

thats a joke right??

$300 and do a light rebuild.
The dry heat of CA is bad for sitting engines too.
you ever see an engine sit in the desert for a couple years?
SoCal is a desert, we just pump water in for landscaping.

And I bet after 3 years, that engine isnt sealed up nicely.

agreed man! Cali sucks for heat. 3 years ago the heat was intense! 2 a little less and last year was pretty hot too. if it was sitting outside then most likely the engine will have issues with seals and such. and for that price??? no thank you! buy cheap and do a full rebuild!! plus he's your friend tell him to hook it up.

[anton1o]

imho, i wouldnt pull it all apart just because its been doing nothing for a few years.

I would flush it with Diesel, do a full service, pulling apart sump giving everything a nice once over, start the engine with the CAS off to let it crank a few times to get the Oil squirters all ready so its all lubed up, check wet & dry compression and if its all looking good start the mfr up :)

[sirfallsalot243]

??

thats a joke right??

$300 and do a light rebuild.
The dry heat of CA is bad for sitting engines too.
you ever see an engine sit in the desert for a couple years?
SoCal is a desert, we just pump water in for landscaping.

And I bet after 3 years, that engine isnt sealed up nicely.

Youre thinking from the mindset of a seller. I'm thinking from the mindset of a buyer. Theres a 90% chance that youre absolutely right.. a light rebuild and youll be good to go. But theres still a certain amount of risk associated with the deal, a risk that should be made up for monetarily. I'm not paying $2300 for a motor thats sat outside for 3 years if i can get the same thing for the same price with a 30 day start up warranty. Added to the fact that someone who basically abandoned an SR three years ago is MOST LIKELY not looking for top dollar for it. If they needed the money that bad, theyd have sold it three years ago. Again, more room for negotiation.

Sure, the motor is probably fine. But its a risk. A greater risk than buying a motor youve seen run, or a motor bought from an importer. The price should reflect that risk that the buyer is taking.

In all honesty, Id try to get it for $1200, just because I think the OP could pull that off.

[j20accord00]

if hes your friend then dont pay him till you know if runs. like said before it only takes a little bit to swap an sr in.

my uncle had a small block sitting behind his house for way more then 3 years and he got to use it a few years back..thing fired right up. smoked a little bit but he just flushed it all out and it ran great.

[silviaguy240]

Youre thinking from the mindset of a seller. I'm thinking from the mindset of a buyer. Theres a 90% chance that youre absolutely right.. a light rebuild and youll be good to go. But theres still a certain amount of risk associated with the deal, a risk that should be made up for monetarily. I'm not paying $2300 for a motor thats sat outside for 3 years if i can get the same thing for the same price with a 30 day start up warranty. Added to the fact that someone who basically abandoned an SR three years ago is MOST LIKELY not looking for top dollar for it. If they needed the money that bad, theyd have sold it three years ago. Again, more room for negotiation.

Sure, the motor is probably fine. But its a risk. A greater risk than buying a motor youve seen run, or a motor bought from an importer. The price should reflect that risk that the buyer is taking.

In all honesty, Id try to get it for $1200, just because I think the OP could pull that off.

dude, what are you smoking? $1200 for an engine you dont know if it runs and its been out in the sun dry rotting for the past 3 years? a nice running SR motorset is worth $1200 now a days. i seriously wouldnt pay anymore than $500 for everything.

[bees]

thank you all for all your comments! im still in the process of negotiating a deal with him, but i will take all this into consideration.

[ericcastro]

Youre thinking from the mindset of a seller. I'm thinking from the mindset of a buyer. Theres a 90% chance that youre absolutely right.. a light rebuild and youll be good to go. But theres still a certain amount of risk associated with the deal, a risk that should be made up for monetarily. I'm not paying $2300 for a motor thats sat outside for 3 years if i can get the same thing for the same price with a 30 day start up warranty. Added to the fact that someone who basically abandoned an SR three years ago is MOST LIKELY not looking for top dollar for it. If they needed the money that bad, theyd have sold it three years ago. Again, more room for negotiation.

Sure, the motor is probably fine. But its a risk. A greater risk than buying a motor youve seen run, or a motor bought from an importer. The price should reflect that risk that the buyer is taking.

In all honesty, Id try to get it for $1200, just because I think the OP could pull that off.
WTF are you talking about?
Who the fuck said anything about paying 2300 for an SR.
Are you fucking kidding me!!
Maybe in Kodiak Alaska its gonna cost a bit more.

I said I wouldnt pay over $300 for the fucking thing, and you tell me you wanna pay your "friend" 1200?

You might as well bend over and let him fuck you then.

dude, what are you smoking? $1200 for an engine you dont know if it runs and its been out in the sun dry rotting for the past 3 years? a nice running SR motorset is worth $1200 now a days. i seriously wouldnt pay anymore than $500 for everything.
just what i said, look at my reply i got.
this kids fucking lost, someone turn the lights on for him.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit, seriously? Treat it just like any SR swap out there...do the lil maintenance shit like water pump, thermostat, check all the hoses, gaskets and seals and install the damn thing. What the fuck is the difference if it sat outside in socal for 3 years compared to the fucking 10 yrs that it sat outside a japanses junkyard? Drop some oil down the spark plug hole, hand crank it slowly to make sure the piston rings are not stuck to the cylinder wall. If its fucked then its fucked, you wont really know till you install it and have it running.

[whitey240]

You do realize its easier to replace all the seals and gaskets with the motor out of the car right?

thanks Mr Obvious... You do realize that 99% of the time there is nothing to replace? I have done ~10 SR swaps over the years and never once had an issue. Each motor came right out of the junkyard in Japan and right into a car. No issues with gaskets or hoses until real power started being made.

[sirfallsalot243]

WTF are you talking about?
Who the fuck said anything about paying 2300 for an SR.
Are you fucking kidding me!!
Maybe in Kodiak Alaska its gonna cost a bit more.

I said I wouldnt pay over $300 for the fucking thing, and you tell me you wanna pay your "friend" 1200?

You might as well bend over and let him fuck you then.


just what i said, look at my reply i got.
this kids fucking lost, someone turn the lights on for him.

Easy Fidel,

The prices I was quoting were for a full swap, not just a longblock. A full redtop swap (motor, trans, ecu, blah blah blah) goes for $1900-2200 from an importer all fuckin day. I paid $1600 for a full swap (w/ s15 turbo) that Ive seen run its ass off, and I think I got a pretty good deal.

No need to be a giant doucher to me because you got confused with what I was talking about. The original post doesnt specifiy if were talkin about a longblock or a full swap.

Fuckin zilvians and their e-hard ons. You dont need to be an ass to everyone just because its the internet. Calm down, take a fuckin xanax or something, shit. :ghey: :rofl:

[omgRWDgoodness!]

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[ManoNegra]

lol
$1500 would be a reasonable price for a complete swap
$1000 - 1200 would be a decent homie hook up
I've thought about selling the SR swap in my hatch, that's what I would ask for