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HyperTek
04-21-2010, 12:06 AM
I have no problem with smokers, but what is special about today? besides it being Hitlers bday..

what i find annoying tho is people who dont even believe in smoking say "happy 420" just to fit in/be cool.

oscarmagana
04-21-2010, 12:08 AM
yea pot heads are dumb cant stand them

spooled240
04-21-2010, 12:29 AM
yeah idk but it gives a good reason to smoke lol

i guess it's the same thing with americans celebrating cinco de mayo, most likely it's just a reason to take a day off work and get fuckd up

Pactin
04-21-2010, 12:30 AM
420 (cannabis culture) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29)


-started by San Rafael, CA teens
-they would meet after school (4:20) to smoke

ronmcdon
04-21-2010, 12:54 AM
*Sigh* more nonsense from the norcal kiddies
so stupid.

Jayycob
04-21-2010, 01:04 AM
yeah, i think its really dumb. when i was in High school all i heard was "hey guys, its 420 lets go get higggh!" i honestly think its a big waste of money, time and brain cells.

ronmcdon
04-21-2010, 01:07 AM
well if you need to do whatever you want to do then fine.
(I'm not denouncing the substance).
it's just so unnecessary to build some redundant corny lifestyle surrounding it.

Unknown007
04-21-2010, 01:18 AM
I'm in Norcal and never understood this.I use to smoke daily and took 4:20 as another day smoking nothing special.Pot heads smoke daily and celebrate Bob marley or something?Sheesh i dunno that fool so why celebrate?

I suggest they atleast go sober for 4:20 yadig?

I am also sick of people thinking Marijuana is the best thing ever and this and that when it's nothing.Yeah it's an Herb but what you get isn't natural it's coated.Then they argue with you for ages about them being right and needing weed in life which is ridiculous.I smoke cause it's to have fun and illegal but it's been like 2+months since I did.I hate smoking or being around people who do that every damn time.

Anybody ever noticed this about pot heads:You say tomato,they think weed, you say potato, they think weed, you say death, they think weed.

Anybody?

Murphy_Skate
04-21-2010, 01:58 AM
You seem to think people only smoke to get high and they are all the same lazy pot heads. There are many medical uses for it and I guarantee there are people who smoke that you would never guess did.

You smoke because it is illegal? Sounds like a stupid reason... might as well try out heroine and crack too.... those are illegal.

Smoke in moderation and you won't have pot head problems.

The 4:20 thing was always stupid to me.

shiftdrift
04-21-2010, 02:08 AM
actually, it's national marijuana pickers day

lou's40sx
04-21-2010, 02:20 AM
The secrets of 420 explained:

Back in 420 A.D. there was a warrior named Unisa. He was a complicated man, no one really understood him but his woman. So he had 4 horses, and each house had 20 offspring. So years later, when modern people designed engines and wanted to measure performance, so they used the pure breed offspring of the original 4 horses and came up with the Horsepower formula. So this ties into the 420, which is obvious now, what would happen if #2 and #4 were tandem drifting for 420 days and switched places with each other and not hit a hay bale? They'd have 1 wheel each, a non damaged hay bale and 6 spare wheels that coincidentally is just enough to connect the dots and make the SX.

THUS: 420 isn't really what you think it is. I just blew your mind about the TRUTH. THAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE MO.FO.

http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp4/5x114/sx.jpg

Murphy_Skate
04-21-2010, 02:22 AM
Marijuana pickers day should be sometime in September when the wild buds have reached their full potential.

And 4:20 was already explained... some kids would meet up at 4:20 after school and smoke.

obsolete
04-21-2010, 06:31 AM
the truth?

420 Meaning: The True Story Of How April 20 Became 'Weed Day' (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/20/420-meaning-the-true-stor_n_543854.html)

murda-c
04-21-2010, 06:40 AM
Weed is nice. too bad i never have time to smoke anymore and am applying for a govt job.

dawagarage
04-21-2010, 12:56 PM
least we forget, it is also the anniversary of the columbine massacre.
and i agree, thats fine if marijuana smokers want to celebrate but its
dumb when not mari smokers are all 'happy 4/20 dude!!!"

Unknown007
04-21-2010, 03:15 PM
You seem to think people only smoke to get high and they are all the same lazy pot heads. There are many medical uses for it and I guarantee there are people who smoke that you would never guess did.

You smoke because it is illegal? Sounds like a stupid reason... might as well try out heroine and crack too.... those are illegal.

Smoke in moderation and you won't have pot head problems.

The 4:20 thing was always stupid to me.


My bad let me rephrase that.

I use to smoke in high school because it was illegal and almost nobody did it.Now everybody does it, think it's cool, and the best.I've tried plenty and I an not an attic but I would not say weed is the best.When i smoke i do it cause it's fun and yeah sure illegal which I know is stupid but it's not the point why I do it.Others do it cause the supposedly need it in life to get by or think it makes you dope which to me is plain dumb.If they legalize marijuana say bye bye to all your deals cause they might tax the hell out of it.

I just hate going to the drive in with friends and they all start smoking while you don't want to but want o watch the movie get me?

Or people that just plain stupid talk about marijuana 24/7, I can't stand them.

I know tons of people smoke and know people who you'll lease think smokes but I'm saying it may cure some things but people treat it like magic.Now shrooms on the other hand is used in a traditional recipe in Mexico to cure the sickness and speak with the spirits (what i read not 100% on it).Weed IDK yeah it grew naturally but what you get isn't what is natural get me?

IDK I wanna smokes me a blunt who's down?hahaha.........yeah I'm a hypocrite at times.

If you wanna know how annoying it is to live with someone who smokes everyday, every hour, everytime and argues with my mom for money (for trees and gives every excuse possible and turns aggressive) cause he has no job, no car, and is 21 living at home only going to school then come over be my guest.Too many times where I we have all told him he needs to stop and funny thing is that he even told me getting high takes him out this world.Why not solve and then get high instead of ignoring getting high and coming back to it feel me?Tu-shay.

Enna
04-21-2010, 03:34 PM
What?

Also, didn't know ppl said "happy 420". Shit is retarded. I used to smoke, so I'm not being a hypocrite on that.

Hookers and blow, that's where the real fun is.

lflkajfj12123
04-21-2010, 04:46 PM
Enjoying some herb is one of the finer things in life.

It should be used in moderation, just like everything else you do.

I'm no pothead by any means but I probably smoke more than the average user and I always feel refreshed and in uplifted spirits the next day. Its a good way to blow off some built up steam.

Carl Sagan talks about Marijuana...

…Initially I was unwilling to partake, but the apparent euphoria that cannabis produced and the fact that there was no physiological addiction to the plant eventually persuaded me to try… I have smoked occasionally and enjoyed it thoroughly. It amplifies torpid sensibilities and produces what to me are even more interesting effects…

The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before…

A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint…

The enjoyment of food is amplified; tastes and aromas emerge that for some reason we ordinarily seem to be too busy to notice… Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex…

I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate…

When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time…

I find that most of the insights I achieve when high are into social issues, an area of creative scholarship very different from the one I am generally known for. I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics. Because of problems of space, I can't go into the details of these essays, but from all external signs, such as public reactions and expert commentary, they seem to contain valid insights. I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books.

… I am convinced that there are genuine and valid levels of perception available with cannabis (and probably with other drugs) which are, through the defects of our society and our educational system, unavailable to us without such drugs…

… If you're high and your child is calling, you can respond about as capably as you usually do. I don't advocate driving when high on cannabis, but I can tell you from personal experience that it certainly can be done. My high is always reflective, peaceable, intellectually exciting, and sociable, unlike most alcohol highs, and there is never a hangover…

… the illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world.

Agree on all levels about this.

ZenkiKid
04-21-2010, 05:23 PM
I heard 2 things...

1. its Bob Marleys birthday

2. has to do with California prop 420 for legalizing marijuana

Walperstyle
04-21-2010, 05:30 PM
lol at everyone that believes wikipedia.

You do realize anyone can submit content to wiki right?

obsolete
04-21-2010, 05:32 PM
but to people who already dismissed smoking bud, you're just another idiot pothead

BBSilvia
04-22-2010, 01:44 PM
I HATE just sitting on a couch watching tv and smoking, go on a hike see nature do something productive/active people just use weed as a excuse to be lazy and those people are dumb "potheads" I smoked through high school made honor roll. imo the lazy stoners were lazy before they smoked and 420 is just like any other day all say happy 420 more as a joke and its fun, but its hitlers birthday and he isnt that funny...well he was in inglorious bastards haha

ineedone
04-22-2010, 02:30 PM
What?

Also, didn't know ppl said "happy 420". Shit is retarded. I used to smoke, so I'm not being a hypocrite on that.

Hookers and blow, that's where the real fun is.

Hookers and blow is so 80's son... This is what real OGs do...

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:snoop:

BBSilvia
04-22-2010, 02:36 PM
hahaha i love that vid ^

I LUV MY S13
04-22-2010, 02:44 PM
yeah, i think its really dumb. when i was in High school all i heard was "hey guys, its 420 lets go get higggh!" i honestly think its a big waste of money, time and brain cells.



actually weed does not kill brain cells...if people wanna smoke weed that day then let em, who gives a fuck

i used to be a sickass pot head and its not all that bad..i was able to study, drive, work, pretty much do anything faded, but it all depends on the person...now im sober cuz i just choose to be

ESmorz
04-22-2010, 03:18 PM
Enjoying some herb is one of the finer things in life.

It should be used in moderation, just like everything else you do.

I'm no pothead by any means but I probably smoke more than the average user and I always feel refreshed and in uplifted spirits the next day. Its a good way to blow off some built up steam.

Carl Sagan talks about Marijuana...



Agree on all levels about this.

Can we be super best friends?

I used to *allegedly* smoke a lot . Then I smoked none. Now I *allegedly* smoke a very tiny bit, maybe for a movie or something trippy that's going to be on tv, or chocolate syrup bathtub sex.

IIIXziuR
04-22-2010, 03:32 PM
I just drink that "drank" aka sssssyzurp

sippin on that syzurp

lflkajfj12123
04-22-2010, 04:38 PM
Can we be super best friends?

I used to *allegedly* smoke a lot . Then I smoked none. Now I *allegedly* smoke a very tiny bit, maybe for a movie or something trippy that's going to be on tv, or chocolate syrup bathtub sex.

Yes.

And... Life's a bitch and then you die, that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go! - Nas

Matej
04-22-2010, 04:43 PM
Marijuana is the most peasant substance there is.
Cannot think of anything else more trashy that 'gives a buzz.'
If I smoked it, I would be super embarrassed to tell anyone, as opposed to being all '420/Cannabis pride.'
It would be like telling a girl that I own a modified vehicle/work on it. Ultra dorky dirty bro secret.
You gentlemen are braver than I.

BustedS13
04-22-2010, 05:00 PM
Marijuana is the most peasant substance there is.
Cannot think of anything else more trashy that 'gives a buzz.'
If I smoked it, I would be super embarrassed to tell anyone, instead of being all '420/cannabis pride.'
You gentlemen are braver than I.

Matej is getting a little too Hamptons for my tastes.

Matej
04-22-2010, 05:13 PM
Matej is getting a little too Hamptons for my tastes.
Please excuse my correction, dear friend, but in keeping up with geographical accuracy, I do believe you meant "too Upper East Side for my tastes."

JDM_jonface
04-22-2010, 05:18 PM
wow, i didn't realize that so many people where apposed to weed. i smoke every day and have no problem with my duties as a functioning member of society. 90% of you would not even know i was high. most of my coworkers don't even know. as a matter of fact, im more focused at work when ive had a few tokes. as for 420 the time, or the day, i used to celebrate when i was younger but not so much anymore. now its just another day. i don't smoke anymore or any less.

ineedone
04-22-2010, 06:52 PM
wow, i didn't realize that so many people where apposed to weed. i smoke every day and have no problem with my duties as a functioning member of society. 90% of you would not even know i was high. most of my coworkers don't even know. as a matter of fact, im more focused at work when ive had a few tokes. as for 420 the time, or the day, i used to celebrate when i was younger but not so much anymore. now its just another day. i don't smoke anymore or any less.

Clearly your spelling and grammar have been affected:l101:

To be truly honest, I will gladly deal with a pot head over a drunk any day. Legalize it already!:snoop:

ESmorz
04-22-2010, 08:39 PM
Marijuana is the most peasant substance there is.
Cannot think of anything else more trashy that 'gives a buzz.'
If I smoked it, I would be super embarrassed to tell anyone, as opposed to being all '420/Cannabis pride.'
It would be like telling a girl that I own a modified vehicle/work on it. Ultra dorky dirty bro secret.
You gentlemen are braver than I.

http://www.loumag.com/storyimages/TinyTim3_Dec06_250.jpg

Really?

I would much rather accidentally inhale the aroma of the so called Cannabis, than chug down a shit load of the paint thinner most college kids drink.

Now a nice beer on the other hand. Well, that's a different story.

lflkajfj12123
04-22-2010, 08:54 PM
I'd rather be a peasant than a crack head missing teeth and robbing local 7/11's. Hardcore drugs are the center around low-life society, so how is doing hard drugs better than smoking some herb?

By no means am I trying to glorify smoking or anything because trust me I don't give a shit. People always talk so much shit on smokers who talk about it but I could just go hit up my Facebook at any day of the week to see people talking about how much alcohol they drank last night or they're about to drink. Yet these same people will sit there and say how much they are against drugs, when they're sitting there drinking a red bull vodka and smoking cigarettes which are all drugs too-- they're just sanctioned because they're good for capitalism.

Go spend your mind power on something else rather than giving a shit what everyone else does IMO.

IIIXziuR
04-22-2010, 09:20 PM
I fully agree with you s0ap.
Everyone is entitled to do as they please.
I just very much dislike those who feel the need to promote the fact that they smoke 'mad weed' or what have you.
I have more respect for those who are more casual about it.

In all honestly, I could care less.
It is not something I care for but more power to those who do I suppose.

ronmcdon
04-22-2010, 10:03 PM
http://www.loumag.com/storyimages/TinyTim3_Dec06_250.jpg

Really?

I would much rather accidentally inhale the aroma of the so called Cannabis, than chug down a shit load of the paint thinner most college kids drink.

Now a nice beer on the other hand. Well, that's a different story.

Shit beer is definetly more peasant than anything.
I.e Corona.

Matej
04-22-2010, 10:14 PM
http://www.loumag.com/storyimages/TinyTim3_Dec06_250.jpg

Really?

I would much rather accidentally inhale the aroma of the so called Cannabis, than chug down a shit load of the paint thinner most college kids drink.

Now a nice beer on the other hand. Well, that's a different story.
I'd rather be a peasant than a crack head missing teeth and robbing local 7/11's. Hardcore drugs are the center around low-life society, so how is doing hard drugs better than smoking some herb?

By no means am I trying to glorify smoking or anything because trust me I don't give a shit. People always talk so much shit on smokers who talk about it but I could just go hit up my Facebook at any day of the week to see people talking about how much alcohol they drank last night or they're about to drink. Yet these same people will sit there and say how much they are against drugs, when they're sitting there drinking a red bull vodka and smoking cigarettes which are all drugs too-- they're just sanctioned because they're good for capitalism.

Go spend your mind power on something else rather than giving a shit what everyone else does IMO.

Did not read your posts because I cannot take either of you seriously anymore.















:hug:

HyperTek
04-22-2010, 10:35 PM
i have no problem with smoking and have took a few hits when buddies have it around.. Im just not the type to do it by myself or like some people drink at home.. if im gonna do it, imma enjoy it in a social environment like a club or something of that nature. Ill only drink when im out at a social gathering, and ill go for mixed drinks too.

My classmates smoke during break, or always talk about "dude i need a blunt".. "i could go for a blunt right now".. every freaking day.. At least wait til you get home like other people..

lflkajfj12123
04-23-2010, 03:15 AM
EH I was trying to be as serious as I could about an unserious topic. I should have known better.

The only reason I've ever smoked was to learn more about myself. Boom, there you have it. Marijuana and psychedelics are known for having an intro-perspective effect when you're on them. I'd rather actualize myself than sit around all day thinking about what I think I am... so yeah I've learned a lot about who I am from smoking so it has only benefitted me.

Ignorance sucks, and I am definitely not one for it.

victorw210
04-23-2010, 07:48 AM
YouTube - 420 Freestyle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAt_1MT_O0k)

ineedone
04-23-2010, 08:05 AM
EH I was trying to be as serious as I could about an unserious topic. I should have known better.

The only reason I've ever smoked was to learn more about myself. Boom, there you have it. Marijuana and psychedelics are known for having an intro-perspective effect when you're on them. I'd rather actualize myself than sit around all day thinking about what I think I am... so yeah I've learned a lot about who I am from smoking so it has only benefitted me.

Ignorance sucks, and I am definitely not one for it.

You are taking it WAY to seriously.

sirfallsalot243
04-23-2010, 08:15 AM
I smoke on a daily basis. I'm 21 years old, I have a full time job that pays WELL OVER what someone with my education level should make, and I excel at it. I dont smoke "because its cool," in fact I keep rather quiet about it. I smoke because I enjoy it. Some people like to come home from work at the end of the day and have a beer or two. I dont particularly enjoy the taste of beer, and if I'm drinking liquor, its because I want to get drunk. I dont want to get drunk on a wednesday night, get to bed late, and risk being hung over for work. I like to wind down at the end of the day with a nice bong pack. Does that make me a terrible person?

I think anyone who thinks marijuana is in ANY WAY as damaging to an individual as alcohol or even cigarettes is INSANE, misinformed, and uneducated on the matter.

wh0aitznic0
04-23-2010, 01:30 PM
Fuck drinking or smoking.

ROLLING is where it's at.

ayuaddict
04-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Fuck drinking or smoking.

ROLLING is where it's at.

i hope you are an adorable teenage girl.

there is nothing grosser than old man rolling.

wh0aitznic0
04-23-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm only 15.

/udon

PNgo12
04-23-2010, 02:13 PM
I am also sick of people thinking Marijuana is the best thing ever and this and that when it's nothing.Yeah it's an Herb but what you get isn't natural it's coated.Then they argue with you for ages about them being right and needing weed in life which is ridiculous.I smoke cause it's to have fun and illegal but it's been like 2+months since I did.I hate smoking or being around people who do that every damn time.


Wow I know exactly how you feel. I used to smoke with my friends then I caught on the fact that we were doing it so much, they would beg me to smoke with them and yes I was pressured into it then I finally decided to stop. Now all they do is smoke everyday, literally every day. I don't have a problem with smoking Marijuana once in awhile but when its an everyday thing thats a problem.

IIIXziuR
04-23-2010, 03:27 PM
What is "rolling"? Like rolling on E?

...I am so unhip/unstreetwise/Old man

Bubbles
04-23-2010, 03:54 PM
A message to my fellow BROthers:

You never see sharks picking on other sharks.




Especially in a weed thread.

BTP
04-23-2010, 04:06 PM
420 is just another day its cool to smoke on nothing to special....but whats the significance or st pattys day its kinda the same thing? i hate when ppl hate on weed is no different then alcohol prolly little safer how maybe drunk drivers kill ppl everyday?

PNgo12
04-23-2010, 06:25 PM
What is "rolling"? Like rolling on E?

...I am so unhip/unstreetwise/Old man


Its just a term to say you're on ecstasy.:dead:

ThatGuy
04-23-2010, 07:18 PM
420 is just another day its cool to smoke on nothing to special....but whats the significance or st pattys day its kinda the same thing? i hate when ppl hate on weed is no different then alcohol prolly little safer how maybe drunk drivers kill ppl everyday?

Saint Patrick's Day has nothing to do with drinking.

It's just an excuse some people like to use.

BTW, if you want to champion your cause, it would be a good idea to use the proper words and grammar to do so.

S14DB
04-23-2010, 07:52 PM
Saint Patrick's Day has nothing to do with drinking.

It's just an excuse some people like to use.

BTW, if you want to champion your cause, it would be a good idea to use the proper words and grammar to do so.

So, you're saying mardi gras isn't about boobs ether?

wh0aitznic0
04-23-2010, 08:36 PM
So, you're saying mardi gras isn't about boobs ether?

Rebuttal of the year.

DALAZ_68
04-23-2010, 09:43 PM
So, you're saying mardi gras isn't about boobs ether?

Rebuttal of the year.

:bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl: :bowrofl:

well played...

Mikey213
05-06-2010, 12:10 PM
HAHAHAHA! To all you kids who are rollin,' put that baby shit down and just...
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Shoot it up!!! It's faster and you will help the earth and it's overpopulation! :keke:

NismoDriverS13
05-06-2010, 12:53 PM
i don't know about u ppl, but im a regular smoker and i like it. been smoking pot for 4 straight years. I got a ok job, i can smoke and go to work or work on my car.

im not like one of those couch potato stoners, i like doing shit when i get high. 420 is just known as a time or day when stoners world wide can celebrate it i guess.

don't understand why everyone looks down on weed, when there are worse shit ppl do. Like crack and shit, weed in my perception is just a plant like tobacco that gives u a nice side effect and will not make u a cock sucking addict.

sirfallsalot243
05-06-2010, 01:02 PM
Fuck drinking or smoking.

ROLLING is where it's at.

Rolling is by far the most fun drug ive ever done. But its an evil drug. You think you have control on e. You dont. People will do things on e that theyd never in a million years do while sober, or on any other drug. Ive done things on e that I will regret for the rest of my life.

Ecstacy is great, but its evil, and should remain illegal. I wont ever touch it again.

There is no excuse for Marijuana prohibition, however.

rb25_s13*CHUKI
05-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Can we be super best friends?

I used to *allegedly* smoke a lot . Then I smoked none. Now I *allegedly* smoke a very tiny bit, maybe for a movie or something trippy that's going to be on tv, or chocolate syrup bathtub sex.


Shhh! hush hush on the chocolate syrup bathtub sex. Thought that was our little secret? :keke::keke:

HalveBlue
05-06-2010, 02:58 PM
I don't care what the substance is; Nobody but you has the right to decide what goes into your body.

That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

ManoNegra
05-14-2010, 09:58 AM
friends smoke and dealt in High School
knew one that would be all bro-teary eyed and turn to mush
met Caltech geniuses that were pot smokers
met the stereotype lazy, dirty, sit on the couch smoker too
just another substance to me, that depending on the user can be abused or not
no different than coffee, alcohol or cigarettes
I would smoke more regularly if it didn't make me sleepy or sometimes paranoid
stuff is too potent for me, I'm good with beer