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DaveSev
06-26-2003, 06:07 PM
I mean in the JDM.....like, what years was everything from? It's hella confusing and totally different from what it is in the USDM.

KiDyNomiTe
06-26-2003, 06:42 PM
search or check the faqs section

SilviaDriver
06-26-2003, 06:55 PM
R: Fastback
P: SR20DE(T)
M: KA24DE
H: KA24E
S: Chassis Code
13: Model

RS13's were made from '89-98 in JDM land.

89-90: same appearance as USDM but had amber/clear suared signals. Also had CA18DE or CA18DET

91-93: same appearance as USDM but with amber/clear rounded nose signals, and optional aero sideskirts and rear valence we did not get. Had red valve cover SR20DE and SR20DET.

94-96.5: same appearance as 91-93's but SR20DE(T) has a black valve cover to match the S14 that was introduced in 94. Top model is Type-X, I am unsure of other models other than Type-S (SR20DE)

96.5-98: New front bumper, tail lights, and wheels introduced. Optional Aero sideskirts are also different. 4 types are offered for kouki 180sx:
Type-S: no aero kit+SR20DE
Type-G: had aero kit+SR20DE
Type-R: no aero kit+SR20DET
Type-X: had aero kit+SR20DET

All 96.5-98 had option of getting new aerokit regardless of trim package

Now, some japanese terminology: zenki (89-90): means early, first model. Chuki (91-96.5): means middle, intermediate model. Kouki (96.5-98): means latest, last model.
Usage: Zenki 180sx, chuki 180sx, etc... (this is not limited to Nissans or S13s. S14's had 2 models: zenki and kouki (see definition) there was no middle model...)



_S13: chassis code for all 88'-93' JDM Silvias, 89'-98' 180sx, '89-94 240sx coupe and fastback, Aussie and European 200sx ( I don't know definite dates...).

S13: Silvia with CA18DE(T) ('88-'90)
+Trim levels
-J's N/A base model
-Q's N/A full package
-K's Turbo with full trim package as well I believe.
+Club's models had even more options

RS13: 180sx with CA18DE(T) ('89-'90 a.k.a. zenki)
+Unsure on trim

PS13: Silvia with SR20DE(T) ('91-'93)
+Trim levels
-J's N/A base model
-Q's N/A full package
-K's Turbo with full trim package
+Club's models had even more options

RPS13: 180sx with SR20D(T) ('91-'96.5 a.k.a. chuki and '9.5-'98 a.k.a. kouki)
+Chuki trim
-Type-S: SR20DE and no standard aero kit (probable)
-Type-X: SR20DET and aero lip, side skirts and rear underspoiler (also probable)
+Kouki trim
-Type-S: SR20DE with no aero kit
-Type-G: SR20DE with aero sideskirts and rear underspoiler
-Type-R: SR20DET with no aero kit
-Type-X: SR20DET with aero front lip, sideskirts, and rear underspoiler

Visual differences
Zenki/chuki 180sx have same tail lights as USDM 240sx hatchback. Zenki has "pignose" front bumper.
Kouki has updated, more modern lights and different bumper and aero sideskirts.

CA18DE(T) Silvias had non-projector headlamps, while the SR20DE(T) models had projectors with option of 2/3 projectors and 1/0 reflector fog lamp. (info from a trusted friend in japan)

RHS13: 240sx with KA24E

RMS13: 240sx with KA24DE

+Same differences (bar engine) as the JDM zenki/chuki models regarding bumpers, although ou chuki RMS13 did not come with the same aero package as JDM version's
+Also, various JDM/USDM differnces such as cdigital climate control on some kouki 180sx, brakes, brake cooling fins attachd to T/C rods, thicker JDM Sway bars, kouki 180sx seats, steering wheel (airbag), manual seatbelts, etc..


Zenki S14: '94-'96 Silvia, '95-'96 240sx

JDM: SR20DE(T)
+Trim levels
-J's N/A base model (green with gold badging)
-Q's N/A full package (black with silver badging)
-K's Turbo with full trim package (red with silver badging)

USDM: KA24DE
+Trim levels
-Base
-SE

Differences include (but are not limited to): bumper, aero additions such as: side skirts and rear pieces, orange signals on (some) JDM versions, digital climate control, and various other ones I can't think of or don't know.

Kouki S14: '97-'98 Silvia and 240sx

JDM: SR20DE(T)
+Trim levels
-J's N/A base model (green with gold badging)
-Q's N/A full package (black with silver badging)
-K's Turbo with full trim package (red with silver badging)

USDM: KA24DE
+Trim levels
-Base
-SE
-LE

Differences are similar as zenki's between JDM/USDM models, but kouki/zenki differences include: LE trim package for USDM, different headlights, hood, grille, fenders and bumpers as well as slightly diffeent tail lights. Also JDM version had a different rear wing, front and rear bumper and front/rear aero add-on's. (gasping for air)

S15: '99-'02 Silvia and Aussie 200sx.

Basically (concerning JDM-only since i can't be positive about the Oz version):

Spec-S came with SR20DE and Spec-R came with SR20DET. Both had aero packages that were options, and both were offered in 5At and 6MT, althogh the 5AT in SR20DET version has (iirc) a power decrease. Also, it was not possible to get the full aero options and SR20DET without getting the 6MT. (maybe it was just certain options, but the price sheet i have shows one version only availabe in SR20DET 6MT).
Also, the N/A SR20DE has an Autech version that is pretty sports-oriented...


Engine valve covers and appearace:

'88-'90 S13/RS13 CA18DE(T): Red valve cover and black coilpack cover.
'91-93 PS13/RPS13 SR20DE(T): Red valve cover, flat top. T25 turbo.
'94-'98 RPS13 SR20DE(T): Black valve cover, flat top. T25 turbo.
'94-'98 S14 SR20DE(T): Black valve cover, hump peaking over cylinder 3. VTC on intake and has T28 BB turbo
'99-'02 S15 SR20DE(T): Black valve cover, hump peaking over cylinder 3, TVC on both intake and exhaust, and BB T28 with inconel (light metal used to supposedly spool faster..)
+Autech S15 SR20DE has red valve cover, VTL on both cams, a stainless steel header, and no center cover (distibutor set up, not coilpacks like DET).




sound fimilar Lindsay? :D

nocomedown
06-26-2003, 06:57 PM
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20001
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13060

those should help out:D

edit: silviadriver beat me to it

SilviaDriver
06-26-2003, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by nocomedown

edit: silviadriver beat me to it

indeed i have friend. so i shall post this..to let u know u are..

:Owned:

hahahha

DaveSev
06-26-2003, 07:24 PM
Lord that's a lot of infa, hahahaha. Thanks, I guess I'm set for the night.

boro240
06-26-2003, 07:45 PM
every Type S i have ever seen has had aero. i think he has Type S and G mixed up.

AKADriver
06-26-2003, 08:33 PM
Thr extra trim package for the CA18 Silvia was the "Dia(mond) Selection" not the "Club". The Kouki S14 also came in "Dia Selection" models as well as an SE package.

The S15 Spec-S has a 5MT or a 4AT carried over from the S14 Q's, unless you got the Autech Spec-S with the 6MT and 200hp. The S15 Spec-R also had only a 4AT or 6MT, not a 5AT.

nocomedown
06-26-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by SilviaDriver
indeed i have friend. so i shall post this..to let u know u are..

:Owned:

hahahha

i admit defeat and submit to your supremacy :bowdown: :bowdown:

95zilvia
06-27-2003, 02:02 AM
silviadriver winned!
other person... lose :( booo!

nocomedown
06-27-2003, 07:36 PM
i have shamed my entire family!

jaaaaaaaaap
06-28-2003, 11:59 PM
Type-R: no aero kit+SR20DET

type R s13's huh? so now can i put a type r badge on my s13?:drool: