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f2a4s0t
06-22-2003, 10:41 AM
Anyone from northern california. Im from humboldt county and I can't find anyone to drift with. write back or email me.

nokeone
06-22-2003, 01:05 PM
there are a few of us down here in Santa Cruz that go out everynight to a couple different spots for at least 30 minutes or so...

check out the thread titled "Post DD6 Party"...you should come check out the event and then the party afterwards...you'll meet a ton of Nor Cal folks..:)

trsilvias13
06-23-2003, 02:41 AM
hey nokeone, you are in santa cruz and go drift? you mind if i come and learn one of these nights? im in san jose

nokeone
06-23-2003, 12:26 PM
i don't see why not..:)

hit me up on email this weekend... [email protected]

although if you are looking for mountain road drifting we are not that good yet..

we just hit local corners sideways..:)

RBS14
06-23-2003, 12:41 PM
It'll be hard for people who suck at drifting to teach you how but its always worth a shot!:D PANDAS usually eat bamboo and don't have much time to drif but that is slowly changing. I'd be stoked to have another person come out and have fun with us. WOOT!

nokeone
06-23-2003, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by RBS14
It'll be hard for people who suck at drifting to teach you how but its always worth a shot!:D PANDAS usually eat bamboo and don't have much time to drif but that is slowly changing. I'd be stoked to have another person come out and have fun with us. WOOT!


true that..but could we refrain from using the word "shot"..PANDAs are an endangered species as is..:(

werd it'd be nice to have some new blood..damnit i said blood..those poor little bleeding PANDA's..*sniff sniff*..:cry:

juan, how's the civic treating you?..get it inspected for DD6 yet?..mine is mobbin..:)

RBS14
06-23-2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by nokeone
true that..but could we refrain from using the word "shot"..PANDAs are an endangered species as is..:(

werd it'd be nice to have some new blood..damnit i said blood..those poor little bleeding PANDA's..*sniff sniff*..:cry:

juan, how's the civic treating you?..get it inspected for DD6 yet?..mine is mobbin..:)

Gettin' her tech'd today!:D Seeing how as 240's are the civics of drifting it is ok to call them that right? I think so. I never thought i'd drive a civic but i guess i was wrong....

I don't believe red pandas are endangered... just gian pandas. Correct me if i'm wrong. But yes, please refrain from talking about hurting PANDAS..... what did one ever do to u or I?

nokeone
06-23-2003, 03:46 PM
well i'm a GIANT PANDA...just ask your mom..:p..recolize biatch

we drifting tonight?..

or should be just stay on Zilvia and hi-jack and whore other people's threads?

PANDizzle in the hizzle mah nizzle..

quiksilvia
06-23-2003, 10:59 PM
i posted on nicoclub.com and remembered all u guys, then saw this thread, we're gonna meet up in sac on 7-11 friday night. at the roseville in n out im thinkin, no cops there and the open parking lot, prolly at 930 or 10 in the pm. all rsvp and show up!!!

trsilvias13
06-23-2003, 11:43 PM
local corners of santa cruz? would htere be any high curbs? i would like some open space with little attraction like cops to come. is it safe there?

nokeone
06-24-2003, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by trsilvias13
local corners of santa cruz? would htere be any high curbs? i would like some open space with little attraction like cops to come. is it safe there?

yeah there are certain corners in Santa Cruz where the roads are wide enough and in secluded enough locations to practise throwing the car sideways and drifting around...

of course there are curbs..but like i said the roads are decently wide...so the likelyhood of you getting out of control enough to hit one of them is very small..plus these are all 2nd gear drifts...so you really arn't going fast enough..

if you want open space to drift without the possiblity of police you pretty much are limited to events such as DD6 (which we are participating in)..i mean there are a couple of nice parking lots we use..but drifting anywhere is illegal..so there is always the potential for police to come after you..

we usually just hit spots for 10-15 min or so and then bounce to the next one..this way minimizing the chances of having the cops called on us..

is drifting safe anywhere??..the answer is no..so i guess it's not safe..there is always the possibility that you will hurt yourself and your car...but isn't that why you drift?..the excitement of it..

sounds like you are a little paranoid..i imagine you have never even drifted at all before..you should really just find a couple corners or a parking lot in your local area where you can practise getiing your car sideways..get a feel for it..so that you don't panic when you lose control..that is the easiest way to wreck your car..

good luck..and you are of course still welcome over in SC anytime..

GotDriftS14
06-24-2003, 05:02 AM
wait a second you mean you guys drift in Civics??? i hope you are joking.


dont ever call 240SX the "civic" of drifting or i'll cut you.:coolugh:

NZO
06-24-2003, 10:11 AM
If the 240 is the civic of drifting, whats the ae86, a tricycle?

nokeone
06-24-2003, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
wait a second you mean you guys drift in Civics??? i hope you are joking.

well tray sliding and drifting are pretty much the same thing right??? :confused: so yeah we drift civics.. :D..see you at DD6!!!! i've got a stock pile of Burger King trays i'm saving for the event..

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
dont ever call 240SX the "civic" of drifting or i'll cut you.:coolugh:

haha...well think about it for a second..in recent years, and even more so in recent months with the D1 competitions getting some major exposure over here..it seems like everyone and their mother is picking up a 240 and thinking they are a drift master..they are relatively inexpensive, easy to mod, easy to fix, the aftermarket support is limitless...hmmmm...sounds alot like a civic to me..;)

nokeone
06-24-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by NZO
If the 240 is the civic of drifting, whats the ae86, a tricycle?

haha..nah..240's are like civic coupes..AE86's are like a civic hatch..:p ..or maybe a prelude if the HachiRoku is a non hatch back version..

RBS14
06-24-2003, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by nokeone
well i'm a GIANT PANDA...just ask your mom..:p..recolize biatch

ouch :cry: I don't even have a good come back. :fawk:

Danio
06-24-2003, 02:18 PM
wtf

RBS14
06-24-2003, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Danio
wtf

sorry, Kwan and I are just post whoring for lack of something better to do. We'll stop now.;)

nokeone
06-24-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by RBS14
sorry, Kwan and I are just post whoring for lack of something better to do. We'll stop now.;)

speak for yourself bitch..

:p

you should be proud that you drive a civic...very well made automobile..

and tray sliding is better then actual "drifting" any day...cause you can drift or grip depending on your mood with a FF car..

nokeone
06-24-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by nokeone
you should be proud that you drive a civic...very well made automobile..

and tray sliding is better then actual "drifting" any day...cause you can drift or grip depending on your mood with a FF car..

Good point, i just wasn't sure i wanted to keep my civic, but with what you just said, i'm definately keeping it. Grip is good too!:eek:

GotDriftS14
06-24-2003, 09:31 PM
Originally posted by nokeone
haha...well think about it for a second..in recent years, and even more so in recent months with the D1 competitions getting some major exposure over here..it seems like everyone and their mother is picking up a 240 and thinking they are a drift master..they are relatively inexpensive, easy to mod, easy to fix, the aftermarket support is limitless...hmmmm...sounds alot like a civic to me..;)


err except for the fact that 240SX's dont suck, their owners dont brag about how they "are faster than your mustang and get better gas mileage", they are actual sports cars, and they are made by a car company with balls! :D ;)

nokeone
06-25-2003, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
err except for the fact that 240SX's dont suck,

i would hardly say one of the most reliable automobiles ever made sucks...also a car which wins many an autocross, drag race, or other form of competition..

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
their owners dont brag about how they "are faster than your mustang and get better gas mileage",

maybe you don't..;)..but i imagine there are just as many ricers with 240's are there are with civics..actually i take that back...there are quite a few ricers with 240's..but there will NEVER be as many as with civics..your point stands..lol..

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
they are actual sports cars,

debatable...define sports car for me..a new civic SI will smoke you and your truck motor..;)...[/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
and they are made by a car company with balls! :D ;)

ummm...NSX...S2000...Type R...





playing Devil's Advocate is fun..thank you..:bow: ..but i do stand by my points..

trsilvias13
06-25-2003, 01:28 AM
you should call the 240sx an integra, and a ae86 a civic

GotDriftS14
06-25-2003, 04:42 AM
Originally posted by trsilvias13
you should call the 240sx an integra, and a ae86 a civic


how bout calling them 240SX and Corolla?

whooppeeeee so Honda makes an NSX, hooray!! its an incredibly wimpy car for the price. so uhhh how many turbocharged vehicles does Honda make? hmm, none? how many RWD? hmmm, like maybe 2 not including SUV's. that's pretty lame IMO. my car doesnt have a truck motor BTW, and i really could care less if a mini-oddessey, i mean, civic SI could smoke me. hmm for the price of buying a new civic Si, my car would smoke a civic Si hahaha, easily! but that comparison really shouldnt be made. so i'll just end this by saying the 240SX is in no way comparable to the Civic, seeing as how the civic's enthusiast-to-ricer ratio is probably 1:20 or so, and the 240SX ETR ratio is probably somewhere near 1:3. the 240SX was basically made to be an enthusiast car and the civic was made in incredible numbers because its an entry level economy car!!!! the 240SX and civic should not be compared!! the end.


EDIT: i'd also like to add that civics are not all that hot in Autocross, everybody knows that autocross is Miata's home turf. ;)

EDIT: and also the FWD drivetrain layout gives it a disadvantage in drag racing, where american V8's are king.

GotDriftS14
06-25-2003, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by nokeone

and tray sliding is better then actual "drifting" any day...cause you can drift or grip depending on your mood with a FF car..



whoa, something i didnt notice earlier...


FF cars are at a disadvantage when compared to FR cars from a motorsports standpoint. you can drift or grip depending on your mood with a FF car?? please. first of all, you cant drift in a FF, and second of all, FF sucks for gripping, and i'll tell you why.

a tire only has so much grip available at any given point to do one of any given driving activity, wether it be accellerating, cornering, or braking. in an ideal situation, you would want your tires to be able to give the maximum amount of cornering grip and accellerating grip when exiting a turn. in a FF car, you are basically asking the front tires to do 200% of the work that is necessary, and that is what causes UNDERSTEER, which just so happens to be my (and other driving enthusiasts') worst enemy. what happens is, in a FF car if your front tires are near their maximum cornering grip level, lets say 80% of maximum grip, and you wish to accellerate out of the turn, even 50% of maximum accelleration will exceed the tires maximum available traction and therefore cause them to lose grip. all the while, the rear tires are just there...being dragged along for the ride, wasting space and grip. in a FR car on the other hand, the tasks are divided between the front and rear wheels. lets say in the same turn in a FR car, your front wheels are turning the car using 80% of the maximum available tire traction and you wish to accellerate out. well now, as you can imagine, the rear tires arent doing too much in terms of directing a car through the turn, so they have plenty of grip available to complete the task of accelleration. "Oh, but in a RWD car you can spin out if you overload the rear tires!!" BAH! that is only if you suck at driving. if you are able to drive an FR car at its limits, it will be FASTER than an FF car at its limits, because it is able to use the maximum amount of grip from all four tires most efficiently. so yeah, so much for that theory. ;) :coolugh:

RBS14
06-25-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by trsilvias13
you should call the 240sx an integra, and a ae86 a civic

That's a good question. I've always liked tegs more than civics. What do you think kwan?...

nokeone
06-25-2003, 02:41 PM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
whoa, something i didnt notice earlier...


FF cars are at a disadvantage when compared to FR cars from a motorsports standpoint. you can drift or grip depending on your mood with a FF car?? please. first of all, you cant drift in a FF, and second of all, FF sucks for gripping, and i'll tell you why.

a tire only has so much grip available at any given point to do one of any given driving activity, wether it be accellerating, cornering, or braking. in an ideal situation, you would want your tires to be able to give the maximum amount of cornering grip and accellerating grip when exiting a turn. in a FF car, you are basically asking the front tires to do 200% of the work that is necessary, and that is what causes UNDERSTEER, which just so happens to be my (and other driving enthusiasts') worst enemy. what happens is, in a FF car if your front tires are near their maximum cornering grip level, lets say 80% of maximum grip, and you wish to accellerate out of the turn, even 50% of maximum accelleration will exceed the tires maximum available traction and therefore cause them to lose grip. all the while, the rear tires are just there...being dragged along for the ride, wasting space and grip. in a FR car on the other hand, the tasks are divided between the front and rear wheels. lets say in the same turn in a FR car, your front wheels are turning the car using 80% of the maximum available tire traction and you wish to accellerate out. well now, as you can imagine, the rear tires arent doing too much in terms of directing a car through the turn, so they have plenty of grip available to complete the task of accelleration. "Oh, but in a RWD car you can spin out if you overload the rear tires!!" BAH! that is only if you suck at driving. if you are able to drive an FR car at its limits, it will be FASTER than an FF car at its limits, because it is able to use the maximum amount of grip from all four tires most efficiently. so yeah, so much for that theory. ;) :coolugh:

whoa...got a nice rise out of someone..lol

thanks for the lesson "Bill Nye the Science Guy"...:p..

who in their right mind would actually think a FF car is better at drifting then an FR one??

my post was a joke...:rolleyes:

someone failed "Picking Up Sarcasm 101"...;)

nokeone
06-25-2003, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
how bout calling them 240SX and Corolla?

how about Silvia and AE86?

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
whooppeeeee so Honda makes an NSX, hooray!! its an incredibly wimpy car for the price.

if you say so...that is not a point worth arguing because opinions will always differ when it comes to cars and tastes...

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
so uhhh how many turbocharged vehicles does Honda make? hmm, none?

there are many valuable attributes of an all motor car which make it more desirable under certain circumstances as opposed to forced induction..the most blatant being turbo lag



Originally posted by GotDriftS14
how many RWD? hmmm, like maybe 2 not including SUV's. that's pretty lame IMO.

how many does nissan make?...silvia, skyline (non GTR), 300zx/350z ...care to add?



Originally posted by GotDriftS14
my car doesnt have a truck motor BTW, and i really could care less if a mini-oddessey, i mean, civic SI could smoke me.

so you have swapped in an SR20DET then?

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
hmm for the price of buying a new civic Si, my car would smoke a civic Si hahaha, easily! but that comparison really shouldnt be made.

exactly...because when you get into hypotheticals there is no end to it...i'm glad you saw that...

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
so i'll just end this by saying the 240SX is in no way comparable to the Civic, seeing as how the civic's enthusiast-to-ricer ratio is probably 1:20 or so, and the 240SX ETR ratio is probably somewhere near 1:3.

i already agreed with point..please read more carefully next time..:)


Originally posted by GotDriftS14
EDIT: i'd also like to add that civics are not all that hot in Autocross, everybody knows that autocross is Miata's home turf. ;)

EDIT: and also the FWD drivetrain layout gives it a disadvantage in drag racing, where american V8's are king.

but we wern't talking about Mazda or American V8...in fact you started this..lol..we were comparing the popularity of the 240sx in recent to that of the Civic...you decided to bring Manufacturers into it..;)..i just played Devil's Advocate for Honda..:p

TRUENOCOUPE
06-25-2003, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by Danio
wtf

Is your car done?

DD6 is coming up.

I got my car running good and ready.

Let me know if you're down for touge run again.

I miss the ol' days.

-Al

GotDriftS14
06-25-2003, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by nokeone


how many does nissan make?...silvia, skyline (non GTR), 300zx/350z ...care to add?


sure why not...

let's see, theres the President, Cima, Cedric, Gloria, Leopard, Laurel, Cefiro, Skyline, Fairlady Z's, Silvia, Stagea....hmm i think thats about it. and a great deal of those cars were available in turbocharged form, and that is with little or no turbo lag, and certainly what little turbo lag is probably comparable, if not stronger, than Honda's amazing torqueless wonder engines running at similar (low) RPM's.

bah! i sensed sarcasm but i felt that i had to give an explanation of sorts...so that way i dont sound like somebody making ungrounded judgements about the handling capabilities of FF cars! anyway thats enough outta me.:p

nokeone
06-25-2003, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
sure why not...

let's see, theres the President, Cima, Cedric, Gloria, Leopard, Laurel, Cefiro, Skyline, Fairlady Z's, Silvia, Stagea....hmm i think thats about it. and a great deal of those cars were available in turbocharged form,

i stand enlightened..:bow:..i honestly had not even heard of half of those..lol..so thank you for the knowledge..

Originally posted by GotDriftS14
bah! i sensed sarcasm but i felt that i had to give an explanation of sorts...so that way i dont sound like somebody making ungrounded judgements about the handling capabilities of FF cars! anyway thats enough outta me.:p

well thank you for being a good sport...:)..and putting up with my $hit..

can't wait to see you all at DD6...and yes, i will be drifting a 240..;):D




BTW...page 2 :ownage..lol

SilviaDriver
06-26-2003, 03:15 AM
u forgot the 180sx

no its not the samething Mike!

GotDriftS14
06-26-2003, 03:17 AM
gah!!! i'm sorry Nissan! i have failed you... much love to the 180SX. i shall now disembowel myself for the dishonor. :doh:


:stupid:

nokeone
06-26-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by GotDriftS14
i shall now disembowel myself for the dishonor.


werd Ronin, werd..cyclical is where it's at...:axe:

Danio
06-27-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by TRUENOCOUPE
Is your car done?

DD6 is coming up.

I got my car running good and ready.

Let me know if you're down for touge run again.

I miss the ol' days.

-Al

You don't know how badly I wanna go on another touge run! I'm either gonna sell my f'd up car or part it out. Not sure yet. Looking for an S13 fastback, preferably without cracks on the dash and squeaky moonroof. :P