Wheel experts, need help with offset on Work and SSR rims on a S14a!

[Yellow_Fellow]

I badly need some help from you guys out there! I have a simple stock body S14a with Tein Flex coilovers, and I need some help with offsets on Work Meister S1 and/or SSR Professor SP-1 in 18inch!

What to choose? If you see my list under here, I found these cars and sizes on rimtuck.com, but which offset should I go for? My car is a daily btw, and I dont have any plans of stylingkit...:wavey:


Work Meister S1 3 piece NOW updated with pics!!!

• (Front) 18x9,5 +3 and (Rear)18x10 +12 (#296)
http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1232432197.jpg

• (Front) 18x9,5 +1 and (Rear) 18x10,5 +12 (#634)
http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1239563796.jpg

• (Front) 18x9 +5 and (Rear) 18x10 -5 (#387)
http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1231810437.jpg

• (Front) 18x9 +16 and (Rear) 18x10 +18 (#401)
http://rimtuck.com/photos/1232078833.jpg

• (Front) 18x9 +14 and (Rear) 18x10 +0 (Quail from NicoClub, SXOC)
http://www.jt-culture.com/images/okishima_200sx/200sx_8.jpg


SSR Professor SP-1 NOW updated with pics!!!

• (Front) 18x10 +16 and (Rear) 18x10 +24 (#260)
http://www.rimtuck.com/photos/1228675462.jpg

• (Front) 18x9 +? and (Rear) 18x10 +? (Houston: One Clean 240sx « (http://maydaygarage.com/2009/09/04/houston-one-clean-240sx/))
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3479/3886673432_9abbfdd7e2_b.jpg

[bshotts]

You may be asked to reference the wheel fitment thread, but since I know you've done some research on Rimtuck.com, I wanted to help out. I love both these style wheels and have done many different scenarios trying to find the perfect width and offset for my relatively stock S14 (rolled front guards, slightly pulled rear guards). I will say the big determining factor will be coilover clearance inside the fender and tire clearance towards the outside.

What tire width are you thinking of using....or better yet, what style suits you better? Would you like to stretch so you could tuck tire and go for more of a wheel fitment or would you want wider tires and have more of a contact patch?

[Yellow_Fellow]

What tire width are you thinking of using....or better yet, what style suits you better? Would you like to stretch so you could tuck tire and go for more of a wheel fitment or would you want wider tires and have more of a contact patch?

I actually dont know yet :rolleyes: I think I'm going for the 18x10 in the rear, but I have no clue which tire width I should go for? Something in the middle what you said maybe? Hm...

Need suggestions :o

[bshotts]

Sounds like you would be happy with a setup similar to #401 from Rimtuck. Think the guy's name is Norm (usdm180sx is his member name on Zilvia) and he's since sold this S14, but I know people (including me) love the looks of his setup. I think all you would need to do is a fender roll front and back and dial in the camber. Just copy his tire and wheel specs when you order.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Sounds like you would be happy with a setup similar to #401 from Rimtuck. Think the guy's name is Norm (usdm180sx is his member name on Zilvia) and he's since sold this S14, but I know people (including me) love the looks of his setup. I think all you would need to do is a fender roll front and back and dial in the camber. Just copy his tire and wheel specs when you order.

Yeah? Hmm, cool! But whats up with the other setups? Are they more aggresive to motorsports, like drifting or what? The other offsets isnt recommend to daily (ab)use(ment) at all?

What about the offset from the SSR bshotts? :wavey:

[bshotts]

I would submit, and others might argue, that more narrow tires are conducive to drifting simply because of a smaller contact patch making it somewhat easier to break traction either by brute horsepower or overcoming the friction between tire and tarmac. On the flip side, having more contact patch will typically yield higher cornering speeds because the tire can handle more lateral load. So again, wheel choice usually boils down to looks, however with your options between the Meister S1 and SSR SP1, both being available in true 3-piece construction and being relatively lightweight, I'm assuming you are also concerned about unsprung or corner weight. I've talked with Tanabe USA who produce the SSR SP1s, and wheel weights for the 18x9 and 18x10s are ~22 lbs (10 kg) each, so relatively light compared to other custom wheels and not too much heavier than OEM. You do have to consider tire weight as well.

If you are looking for a good daily-driver/light driving event wheel/tire combo, stick to a relatively tame 18x9 et+10 to +20/18x10 et+10 to et+25 wheel width and 225-245 front, 245-265 rear tire setup to avoid massive fender pulling and excessive negative camber settings.

[Yellow_Fellow]

^ Nice writing there! Thanks! I was thinking of SSR wheels as well, because of the price compare to Work Meister the SSR is cheaper. I have also heard that SSR wheels are kinda light, compare to others and it isnt recommended for track use...

Do you wish some Work wheels too?

[bshotts]

My ideal setup, and this is because I already have the tires in the garage, is ordering a set of SSR SP1 Professors 18x9 et+19 HP disk to clear big brake calipers using a 255/35/18, and 18x10.5 et+30 SL disk to have maximum dish using a 275/35/18 or if I switch to a 295/30/18. I may end up ordering 18x10.5 et+18 SL disk to push it closer to the fender and keep the 275/35. Work S1s are too expensive for my budget, and ultimately, my wife's budget haha!

[Yellow_Fellow]

^ Lol! How much are you paying for the SSR's?

[bshotts]

Get a quote from [email protected] (check the vendor section for the SSR wheel special they have). They are located in Texas here in the states. I would imagine shipping from the US to Norway is probably very expensive, so maybe they could drop ship them somehow from Japan after ordering.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Get a quote from [email protected] (check the vendor section for the SSR wheel special they have). They are located in Texas here in the states. I would imagine shipping from the US to Norway is probably very expensive, so maybe they could drop ship them somehow from Japan after ordering.

I already heard with him, and he got a nice price on the SSR, cheaper than Work afterall. But the two brands against eachother, the same thing? 18x10 from both has the same specs on the lips/dish? And so on..? Any big difference between them than brand, price and weight?


Any other people who wants to comment? :wavey:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4732/1981/24328490012_large.jpg

^This is a 18x10 SSR Professor SP-1, what happend to the small dish compare to Work 18x10 with lots of more dish?


This is also a SSR 18x10 in the rear! Wow... This is how you want it for sure bshotts?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2632/3885891139_3ec7352978_b.jpg

[Yellow_Fellow]

What about this setup in SSR Professor SP-1 18x9 +11/+3/-7 in front and 18x10 +11 or 18x10,5 +18/+5 in the rear? And which tire size and brand to them?

Will it clarify my Tein Flex coilovers? Too much pull?

[fliprayzin240sx]

What about this setup in SSR Professor SP-1 18x9 +11/+3/-7 in front and 18x10 +11 or 18x10,5 +18/+5 in the rear? And which tire size and brand to them?

Will it clarify my Tein Flex coilovers? Too much pull?

The thing is you have to figure out how much camber, width tires you plan on running and how much fender pull you'd have to do to clear the wheel setup. Thats what will dictate how low of an offset you'd need to run. Personally, I dont like the last cars stance...too much camber. I like my tires to last me a while.

The lower offset you go, the more pull you'd need, less tire width and more camber.

My personal recommendation would be 18x9 +11 with 225/40-18s and 18x10 +11 with 255 or 265/35-18s. You'd need to pull the roll all around and will need a fender pull for the rears.

[Yellow_Fellow]

My personal recommendation would be 18x9 +11 with 225/40-18s and 18x10 +11 with 255 or 265/35-18s. You'd need to pull the roll all around and will need a fender pull for the rears.

Will this setup clear my coilovers? :rolleyes: With this setup and offset, you mean the SSR's right?


Personally, I dont like the last cars stance...too much camber. I like my tires to last me a while.

I think it was to much camber on the grey one for me...

[bshotts]

Will this setup clear my coilovers? :rolleyes: With this setup and offset, you mean the SSR's right?

I would say without a doubt, a 9" width in front will clear coilovers as long as you stay at or below the et+25 range. I can't really add anything to what Ray recommended as we've seen multiple amazing fitments from his S14. Even his tire recommendations are fairly spot on for the front and rear where you won't have to run excessive amounts of camber like the grey S14 mentioned above, just rolling the inner fender lips and a small pull on the rears. I want to say that the grey S14 setup (Mikeyyy) was using spacers on the rears hence the massive camber.

[fliprayzin240sx]

A good rule of thumb for me when running wheels on S-14s has always been 9j +9 front and 10j +10 in the rear. Rears will need a slight fender pull and some stretched tires, lower offset if you want to run wider tires.

[Yellow_Fellow]

Anyone who knows this car, setup and offsets? SSR or Work on them? Look like Work actually...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2421/3537215731_4202342b4d_b.jpg

[R_G]

man, i really have to roll and pull my fenders.

[Yellow_Fellow]

What about this car? Anyone who knows the owner/setup?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/Sx4nJ2TYxII/AAAAAAAAAqY/7nhDVeGbkbY/s1600/IMG_9888r.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/Sx4mZZW317I/AAAAAAAAAp4/Ed5WtScq7dU/s1600/IMG_9899r.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/Sx4lq2GO7BI/AAAAAAAAApQ/hiKnGYxdlcY/s1600/IMG_9911r.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vQIfL5M3SSc/Sx4k4KOPT_I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WdcYPtjxSvk/s1600/IMG_9976r.jpg

[fliprayzin240sx]

Considering how its sticking out pass the over fenders, I'm betting the back is roughly 10j or 10.5j -15 ish.

The black car is Work and the Purple one is SSR.

[FusionR240sx]

gotta be more then 10.5-15.
i think he has 50mm overs.

[Yellow_Fellow]

WOW! Saw your Work Equip wheels on your car and damn...much pull on your rear man! I think that will be too much pull for me!?

A good rule of thumb for me when running wheels on S-14s has always been 9j +9 front and 10j +10 in the rear. Rears will need a slight fender pull and some stretched tires, lower offset if you want to run wider tires.

So you are thinking:



FRONT: 18x9 +11 (NORMAL DISK 84mm)
REAR: 18x10 + 11 (SUPER LOW DISK 110mm)

So this is probably the setup and offets you would choose for your car? Which brand and size on the tires? 225/40 and 255-265/40?

But what about 18x10,5 +5 (SUPER LOW DISK 123mm) ??? :yum:


Considering how its sticking out pass the over fenders, I'm betting the back is roughly 10j or 10.5j -15 ish.

The black car is Work and the Purple one is SSR.

I think 10 or 10,5 - 15 is too much for the rears, considering the low offset? Just like you said, the wheels be sticking far from the fender..

Yeah, I figure it out that the black car had some flush Work Meisters... They have a different lip with high offets than SSR with same offets!


gotta be more then 10.5-15.
i think he has 50mm overs.

I think I saw some extended fenders on the rear also, so you have probably right there...So I think this will not be an any option for me..

[fliprayzin240sx]

WOW! Saw your Work Equip wheels on your car and damn...much pull on your rear man! I think that will be too much pull for me!?

So you are thinking:


FRONT: 18x9 +11 (NORMAL DISK 84mm)
REAR: 18x10 + 11 (SUPER LOW DISK 110mm)

So this is probably the setup and offets you would choose for your car? Which brand and size on the tires? 225/40 and 255-265/40?

But what about 18x10,5 +5 (SUPER LOW DISK 123mm) ??? :yum:

I think 10 or 10,5 - 15 is too much for the rears, considering the low offset? Just like you said, the wheels be sticking far from the fender..

Yeah, I figure it out that the black car had some flush Work Meisters... They have a different lip with high offets than SSR with same offets!

I think I saw some extended fenders on the rear also, so you have probably right there...So I think this will not be an any option for me..

--Yes, these would be the sizing I would recommend folks. The fronts wont be too hard to fit, the rear will require a roll/pull. How much pull will depend on how wide of a tire you want to run. So the narrower the tire, the less pull or camber you'd have to run. I personally like having meaty tires in the back since I'm pushing some HP on my setup. Sucks to have power when you cant get traction for shit. This recommendation is what I think will be the best setup for the least amount of work to fit.

Me personally just cuz I like the widest wheel I can run and have done it, I liked my car's stance with 18x10 +18 up front and 18x11 +20 in the rears
Here's some of the wheels I've had, maybe these will help you decide...

Desmond Wisesports 18x9.5 +19 235/40-18 18x10.5 +19 275/35-18
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2747/4197458160_1b02742b1e_b.jpg

Work VS-KF 18x9.5 +14 225/40-18 18x10.5 +1 235/40-18
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_4220.jpg

Work Equips 18x10 +18 235/40-18 18x11 +29 with 10mm spacers 265/35-18
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3049.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3037.jpg

Enkei RPF1s 17x10 +18 255/40-17s
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/P7310014.jpg

SSR/Longchamps XR-4Zs 18x9.5 +12 235/40-18 and 265/35-18s
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_4698.jpg

Weds Cerberus 18x9 +22 225/40-18 18x10.5 ~ -5 245/40-18s
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/IMG_5002.jpg

Locksmice Gerades 19x9 +19 235/35-19 19x10 +20 245/35-19
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/IMG_4913.jpg

Work Equips 18x9 +22 with 12mm spacers = +10 225/40-18s 18x10 +22 235/35-18s
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3290.jpg

Koenigg WRVs 18x9 +17 225/40-18s 18x10 +22 235/40-18s
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/IMG_4162.jpg