oil cooler setup

[QuickSpoolSR]

Sorry for this noob question, but i am trying to put together an oil cooler setup, but im not sure what size fittings/ hoses to buy. I bought a greddy relocation kit, and the seller told me its 5/8 in. inner diameter hoses. i want to use rubber hose because its cheaper, but perma cool only makes 1/2 inch inner diameter. Would lowering the diameter affect the oil flow? also are the fittings on the relocation 10an? how big is 10an in inches? If anyone could just let me know what sizes i need to buy it would be great.

i also want to run a permacool oil thermostat, but the biggest they have is 10an. is that still too small?

[Propaganda]

Use the forumla A/16" and you will get it. Example 10AN = 10/16" = 5/16"

10AN is what everybody on here generally agrees with on good oil flow.

[khilgers]

I would recommend some -10 stainless lines. Yeah they are a little more expensive, but it's OIL were talking about. IMO not a good spot to cut corners, but that's my $.02

[QuickSpoolSR]

well the permacool lines can take up to 300 degrees, and oil never really goes over 200 unless your overheating it, and the psi it can take is wayyy over the pressure that will be seen in the oiling system

[QuickSpoolSR]

I think you meant 10/16 = 5/8.. but ya thanks for the info, very helpful

Use the forumla A/16" and you will get it. Example 10AN = 10/16" = 5/16"

10AN is what everybody on here generally agrees with on good oil flow.

[Z33dori]

if u still need more info, there is a pretty nice oil cooler thread from a year or 2 ago

http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/225223-school-me-oil-cooler-setups.html

[irritatedmax]

^At the end of that thread, people were leaning toward -8AN setups or considering them as more beneficial. I literally just bought my oil cooler setup last week and went all -10AN. I have read pretty much anything I could come across and there is no clear "right" answer.

-8AN will serve you well. It seems like it is personal preference between the two.

I ordered all my lines and fittings from anplumbing.com. They have some really helpful tech videos and explanations that should help you get on the right track.

[Bigsyke]

why do you need an oil cooler? tell us your setup 1st. Your oil lubricates much better hot.

[QuickSpoolSR]

i want an oil cooler, so i dont spin bearings like everyone on here. Dont worry im going to run an oil thermostat, so it warms up, it will just keep oil temps below 200, people see temps over 210 doing light highway pulls on sr's, and i know thats not good

[QuickSpoolSR]

i wish i would have known that 8 an thing, it seems like getting things 10 an is way more expensive. lol im pissed now cuz i bought a greddy relocation kit. O welll i guess i can resell it.

[McCoy]

210F for oil temps is nothing.. actually, that's pretty good. I've hit close to 270F on several occasions and typically run in the 220-240F range during most my track days. No spun bearing in an SR in the 9+ years I've been playing with them.

I am adding an oil cooler finally, mostly for the fact that once oil gets above 240, the water temp starts to follow really fast, which I don't like getting that high.

[Bigsyke]

i want an oil cooler, so i dont spin bearings like everyone on here. Dont worry im going to run an oil thermostat, so it warms up, it will just keep oil temps below 200, people see temps over 210 doing light highway pulls on sr's, and i know thats not good

You want your oil that temp, at all times You do NOT want an oil cooler, you need good oil like redline. Low coolant and oil temps will oxidize and pit your cylinder walls.

Coolant temps are directly related to oil temps. If the oil/coolant temps goes dynamic then your coolant system is un efficient, such as too much glycol.

[slider2828]

FWIW Greddy uses AN -10 for all SRs....

[QuickSpoolSR]

i will be running a koyo aluminum with altima fans, a dif fan controller, a nismo thermostat, a greddy rad cap. and for oil cooler, a permacool oil thermostat that opens up at 180 degrees and not 100 percent on what cooler core yet. I know you guys are gunna hate, but will this actually fit?

30 ROW OIL COOLER FILTER RELOCATION KIT SR20DET 3S-GTE : eBay Motors (item 220523673066 end time Mar-07-10 19:40:43 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/30-ROW-OIL-COOLER-FILTER-RELOCATION-KIT-SR20DET-3S-GTE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem33583c35eaQQitemZ22 0523673066QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories)

for another 75 bucks i can get a permacool 8 an thermostat, and fittings and splice it in.

[Bigsyke]

So the CTS triggers at what temp....somewhere around 160*f? The nismo Tstat is 149*f? Not only that but your oil needs to reach 212*F every time you drive or you will kill your bearings.

You will quickly dilute your engine oil with fuel and water with your setup.

[tougefactory]

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[QuickSpoolSR]

So the CTS triggers at what temp....somewhere around 160*f? The nismo Tstat is 149*f? Not only that but your oil needs to reach 212*F every time you drive or you will kill your bearings.

You will quickly dilute your engine oil with fuel and water with your setup.


So your saying everyone that runs a koyo and a greddy oil cooler kit is damaging their engines?

[Bigsyke]

If your engine doesnt need an oil cooler then yes. But your talking about putting an 180*f tstat on the oil cooler, and Yes, you will cause damage eventually when the contaminates can not burn off @ 212*f. Engine wear drops falls off when the coolant is 180*f, which means the oil should be ~30*f higher @ ~210*f.

Racing the engine when the temps are blow that are documented to cause excessive wear, by Ford engineers, and someone named Dr. Haas.

Koyo doesnt matter.

[Kenji001]

http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/275286-ka-t-s15-gt28r-turbo-setup-complete-list.html

look for "Oil cooler" in the thread.

[QuickSpoolSR]

sorry for bumping this old ass thread, but I want to replace my greddy relocation kit hose ends with real hose ends, not just barbs and clamps. So do i need 5/8 npt male to 10 an hose ends. I am having trouble finding what i need, can someone link me to the summitracing correct ends to replace them?

[s14fbs]

well the permacool lines can take up to 300 degrees, and oil never really goes over 200 unless your overheating it, and the psi it can take is wayyy over the pressure that will be seen in the oiling system

i dont think hes really saying that they wont hold the heat but more of a more heavy duty more line cause rubber hose will tear or melt alot quicker then ss line i would never cheap on my oil system


im running a oil sandwich plate with therm and -10 an line and b&m oil cooler on my ka
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[n240sxfnatic]

i dont think hes really saying that they wont hold the heat but more of a more heavy duty more line cause rubber hose will tear or melt alot quicker




Wrong! You do realize ss hose is rubber covered in braided metal dont you? The rubber hose is made to take the heat and pressure so this statement is invalid.