super blue racing brake fluid

[Powashiftin]

Where can i get some super blue racing brake fluid? How much do i need of it?

[West]

Not sure how big that can is but you shouldnt need more then 2 to flush your whole system. Id get some russell speed bleeders as well so you can make the whole process easy on yourself.

http://www.fastwrx.com/atesupblurac.html

[240 2NR]

Cans are 1 liter each and one should be enough to flush and fill your system. I bought 3 at $10 per can plus $8 shipping. Just google ATE super blue and you should find tons of places that sell it. Price seems to be between $9 and $15 per liter. I belive ATE Gold is the same formula as Super blue, just a different color. GRM always has ads for a mailorder BMW tuner for $9 per liter. It's like BMP or BPM or something.

Of the three cans I bought, I still have 1/3 of the the first one I opened and 2 that are still unopened.

It's good stuff if you do any track days, but overkill IMO strictlty for the street. I'd just stick with Castrol GTLMA or Valvoline synpower. But if you do some weekend racing, I think it's the best out there that's fully streetable.

[Warwick5s]

not to hijack the thread or anything -

but exactly what do you mean by 'overkill'? like, it's too stiff?

i'm thinking of flushing my brake lines, doing SS brake lines, and going to a more aggressive pad to make my brakes stiffer. they're too squishy right now, and if the ate 'unsquishes' it i'd like to know :)

[240 2NR]

Overkill in that you're paying for performance you won't use. Valvoline and Castrol GTLMA are around $5 per liter and available locally and should be more than adequate for a street driven car.

While it's cool to have race parts/ fluids, it's not really nessasary for street driving that doesn't see repeated high speed braking to warrant the high boiling points and extra costs.

I bought the ATE prior to my first track school and planned to do a quick flush of at least my front brakes before each SOLO I event. I only ended up doing one event last summer and haven't done any this summer due to finaces.

The other plans sound fine and I'm not telling you not to get the fluid, just pointing out that you don't NEED it or that you're paying extra for performance you won't get to use if you only drive on the street.

As for squishiness, it should be the same as any other glyocol based fluid (DOT 5 is silicone based and prone to causing a squishy feeling and should be avoided). The plans you have should help to cure those ailments, but I don't think ATE is any stiffer than synpower. Uiuc240 has synpower on his Z brake upgrade and his brakes feel stiffer than mine, though I think my issue is related to a leaky master cylinder which is a problem he had several years back. I'd check the seal between the MC and the brake booster. It may not be obvious from above, but if the paint is pealing directly below the MC (likely in straighline straigt down) it's very possible your MC piston has a small leak. I'd address that issue before the other upgrades (my current plan, followed by SS lines, I already have upgraded pads and you know my fluid).

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