Precision HP6262 Turbo and e85 Dyno at 29 Psi

[s15specR]

Thanks to Dan at BatlGround

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/Car/sh.jpg

[jspaeth]

Very nice! Can you give us a list of what the motor has done to it, and what kind of suspension/diff/wheels/tires you are using to harness all that power?

Engine management?

[turbo2nr]

+1 nice number in guessing its on a sr20? nice to see you taking it to almost 8.5k

[eh?]

Not bad, how much timing are you running up top with e85?

[s15specR]

S15 SR20, S15 Rear End.

Dyno'd with 18's and 255/35/18

Mods:

Standalone:
Tomei Reytec MAP Based Standalone
Head:
Port Polish, Valve Job, Port Matching
Supertech Dual Springs and Ti Retainers
Supertech Locators
Supertech Valves
Supertech Valve Guides
Tomei 270/270 Cams
Block:
CP Pistons (9.0:1)
Eagle Rods
Cosworth HG
Turbo:
Precision Turbo HP6262 Turbo
Peakboost Manifold
Greddy Intercooler
Tial MVS Wastegate
Blitz SBC ID-III Spec R Boost Controller
Custom 3" Downpipe
Custom 3" Exhaust
HKS Muffler
Fuel:
Injector Dynamics ID-1000cc Saturated High Impedence Injectors
Greddy Fuel Rail
Aeromotive FPR
Walbro Pump Intank
Bosch 044 Inline

[XnTroubleX]

That much power on Eagle rods!!!!!! OMG I see fireworks in the near future and its not even new years!! I truly would not trust Eagle for anything over 500 for a long period of time. But none the less,,, nice numbers bro,, Hows the handlin on the street with that much power and torque.. What suspension setup are you running..

[S13 curtis]

That much power on Eagle rods!!!!!! OMG I see fireworks in the near future and its not even new years!! I truly would not trust Eagle for anything over 500 for a long period of time. But none the less,,, nice numbers bro,, Hows the handlin on the street with that much power and torque.. What suspension setup are you running..

LOL @ U. Eagle rods are fine , fuck ive even seen after market pistons wih stock rods over 500whp. there is another with 800whp with eagle rods on here.

Nice dyno results that looks great, nice results and you got a whole lot left as that turbo is good up to 40 psi so you are just tickeling it.

BTW is this Journal 6262 or ball bearing?

[Def]

Nice numbers, but I hate seeing dynojet charts with the smoothing cranked up to 5. Impossible to see the actual power delivery of the motor.

[S13 curtis]

did you max out the injectors?

re-dyno on more boost anytime soon?

[s15specR]

Yep thats exactly what happened, maxed the injectors out at 29 psi, tried adding more fuel to the mao and upping the pressure but didn't do anything.

Ball Bearing 6262.

I'll stay here for a while, not sure if I want to do the ID-2000's as yet, 584 is alot for a street car, for now at least.

[MandTPhotography]

Maxing out 1000cc saturated injectors.

FML.

One day.

Nice numbers!

[S13 curtis]

Yep thats exactly what happened, maxed the injectors out at 29 psi, tried adding more fuel to the mao and upping the pressure but didn't do anything.

Ball Bearing 6262.

I'll stay here for a while, not sure if I want to do the ID-2000's as yet, 584 is alot for a street car, for now at least.

true 584whp is alot :whip::whip:, its def a 135mph+ trap car, nice numbers. I'm pretty intrested because I just picked up a 1998 240sx Kouki S14 last week that i plan on doing forged internals and HP6262 KA-T. I need to finish my S13 first, but the problem with going KA-T is trouble picking ECU for it.

[s15specR]

The tuner's mechanic (Brandon @ BatlGround) is building the same thing, he just sent it out to get the machining done ect.

I would do an AEM or Haltec.

[ross.cottrill]

man great numbers but it just isnt producing what i thot it would(not trying to bash or sound like a dick).i was going to order this turbo next week and im glad i saw this graph.the thing is we see most of our factuall evidence from the evo community and soforth but that is definately not a good comparison as our head desing is not even in the same realm of flow as say a 4g64mivec or any honda vtech setup.i think that head design is almost as important ifnot more important than displacement.if i were you i would probably put a stout 4.6 r&p on that puppy and see if that takes out some lazyness.very kickass power man enjoy it!!!

[ross.cottrill]

oh i forgot to ask,what hotside was used on this setup and was it t3 or t4???

[s15specR]

Yeah we really hadn't even pushed it when we realised the injectors were done, and the rear housing is the .63 T3, limits it a little but helps spool. Most car's with this turbo uses the standard .82 a/r.

Once I get some extra cash I may throw some bigger injectors and try it again.

[ROIDMONKEY]

I made 573 with a 5862 precision ... on E85 tho..at 30psi.. u should be able to hit 650 on E85,, and eaithr a racing fuel pump or 4 walbros... to go over 600 on a sr..just noticed u r running 1000cc... need 1600cc at least

[ROIDMONKEY]

That much power on Eagle rods!!!!!! OMG I see fireworks in the near future and its not even new years!! I truly would not trust Eagle for anything over 500 for a long period of time. But none the less,,, nice numbers bro,, Hows the handlin on the street with that much power and torque.. What suspension setup are you running..
STFU dude..... ive seen 780whp sr running eagle no proble... Rb's running Eagle NP

[s15specR]

I made 573 with a 5862 precision ... on E85 tho..at 30psi.. u should be able to hit 650 on E85,, and eaithr a racing fuel pump or 4 walbros... to go over 600 on a sr..just noticed u r running 1000cc... need 1600cc at least


That's verbatim what the tuner said, we had the fuel pressure etc, he said with bigger injectors we could have broken the 600hp mark.

[ross.cottrill]

here is the direction im going but t4 twin scroll and hta billet wheel..
Video : Full Race 30R - Twin Scroll/Twin 44mm @ 31 PSI - FreshAlloy.com Forums (http://forums.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=190508&highlight=twin+scroll+gt3076r+dyno)
peak torque is at 4500 and smoothing is set at zero and 27 psi...

[s15specR]

That's a pretty sick setup, I think it was Steve shadows that tallked about the 30r with t4 housing.

[XnTroubleX]

STFU dude..... ive seen 780whp sr running eagle no proble... Rb's running Eagle NP


Blahahaha,, Im never said it couldnt handle it, if you read my post rather than being a quick mouth'd DH, you would have been able to see that I stated "over a long period of time" but again,, its all personal preference. So how about you... STFU!!:mrmeph:

[240sxvaj]

crazy power. Post some pix of engine

[SuicidnS13]

Nice dyno. Can't wait to see what it really puts out once you have your fuel system sorted.
Definately need to step it up to atleAst 1600s for e85. I've seen 850whp on e85 with the 6765 so 650whp should be no issue once you have that sorted out.

[sdrmiami]

Thanks to Dan at BatlGround

http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii319/tripleJs15/sh.jpg


Good numbers man, glad to see that you finally went E85.. i told you it wa a good fuel..

As far as lag, Just do a 50shot to spool up and shut it down at 20psi. thats what im doin now..

Again, Congrats on the numbers..

[sdrmiami]

LOL @ U. Eagle rods are fine , fuck ive even seen after market pistons wih stock rods over 500whp. there is another with 800whp with eagle rods on here.

Nice dyno results that looks great, nice results and you got a whole lot left as that turbo is good up to 40 psi so you are just tickeling it.

BTW is this Journal 6262 or ball bearing?


Can you send me the link of the other guy runnin 800hp?

[ross.cottrill]

hey man not many people are educated on these injectors yet...did you guys try upping base fuel pressure?its accurate up to 90 psi base fuel pressure in turn flowing at the rate of a 1900cc injector...there is no way these should have maxed out at that power level...

[sdrmiami]

STFU dude..... ive seen 780whp sr running eagle no proble... Rb's running Eagle NP


Wuddup man, Send me your dyno if you dont mind so i can take a look at it.. congrats on your new numbers.. Whos the sr thats runnin 780hp? send me a link..

[sdrmiami]

hey man not many people are educated on these injectors yet...did you guys try upping base fuel pressure?its accurate up to 90 psi base fuel pressure in turn flowing at the rate of a 1900cc injector...there is no way these should have maxed out at that power level...

1000cc inj will get maxxed out on e85 due to the fact that 35-40% more fuel has to be ran in order to get the numbers he got.. if he were running race fuel he would have plenty left.. Depending on the flow rate of the injectors he has, he could up the fuel pressure and have more flow but you are still limited due to the fact of E85.. I speak from experience not guessing, i maxxed out my 1600cc @ 796whp and I am now in the process of installing some billet 235cc injectors that will flow enough to get me into the 900-1000hp mark.. Also due to his fuel system he cannot up the pressure so much..

[s15specR]

Yes using the 1000cc injector (id-1000's) with a higher fuel pressure got us there but was limited on e85 due to the 30% plus increase in fuel needed, we could have swapped out for c16 or q16 but I was happy with the results and stopped there.

Next time maybe id-2000's.

What injectors are you using specifically ?

[sdrmiami]

Yes using the 1000cc injector (id-1000's) with a higher fuel pressure got us there but was limited on e85 due to the 30% plus increase in fuel needed, we could have swapped out for c16 or q16 but I was happy with the results and stopped there.

Next time maybe id-2000's.

What injectors are you using specifically ?


Moran Motorsports: Products (http://www.moranmotorsports.com/products/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=63&products_id=174&osCsid=4abe15662bf207b21d20453417f55c10)

[ROIDMONKEY]

Blahahaha,, Im never said it couldnt handle it, if you read my post rather than being a quick mouth'd DH, you would have been able to see that I stated "over a long period of time" but again,, its all personal preference. So how about you... STFU!!:mrmeph:
then shut ur ugly mouth if u dont like eagle fucking rods.. personal preference right .. u said it.....

[sdrmiami]

then shut ur ugly mouth if u dont like eagle fucking rods.. personal preference right .. u said it.....



BUHAHAHHA!!! cant we all get along... lol

[ross.cottrill]

Yes using the 1000cc injector (id-1000's) with a higher fuel pressure got us there but was limited on e85 due to the 30% plus increase in fuel needed, we could have swapped out for c16 or q16 but I was happy with the results and stopped there.

Next time maybe id-2000's.

What injectors are you using specifically ?

i.d.1000cc,orry man the fact of e85 slipped my mind:bash:my bad...

[sdrmiami]

:tinhat:i.d.1000cc,orry man the fact of e85 slipped my mind:bash:my bad...


lol

[s15specR]

We were at 100psi and adding fuel to the map and it wasn't going, I believe 100psi on the ID1000's makes about 1600cc, take 30-40% off that and thats what you're working with running e85.

[SuicidnS13]

Your not running the stock lines still right? They are barely large enough for 550whp. I'm planning -8 feed and dash -6 return.

[Flicktitty]

Your not running the stock lines still right? They are barely large enough for 550whp. I'm planning -8 feed and dash -6 return.
yeah, size fuel lines and that seems like ALOT of power out of 1 Walbro pump.

Great numbers though.

[s15specR]

-6 Fuel lines, stock return, walbro intank and a bosch 044 inline.

Planning on using the -6 as the return and plumbing a -8an to the front when I swap out injectors.

However, I had enough fuel supply and fuel pressure, the injectors reached the limit.

[SuicidnS13]

Yea def step up to 160lb or 1600cc.

[s15specR]

Yea def step up to 160lb or 1600cc.

These look interesting:
Moran Motorsports: Products (http://www.moranmotorsports.com/products/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=63&products_id=174&osCsid=4abe15662bf207b21d20453417f55c10)

However I like the ID-1000's I have now, if I upgrade I may switch to the ID-2000's:
Injector Dynamics 2200cc high impedance injector (http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/en/products/details/248/131/injector-dynamics/id2000/injector-dynamics-2200cc-high-impedance-injector.html)


This is the long term goal!

[XnTroubleX]

BUHAHAHHA!!! cant we all get along... lol
obviously not cause some people dont know how to shut their effin mouth!!:blah:

[SuicidnS13]

obviously not cause some people dont know how to shut their effin mouth!!:blah:

Only advice I can give to you in this case is tread lightly over uncharted waters. Try and make friends as you begin your "1st" car build. You seem like a cool person from your other turbo thread, but now you are picking the wrong battles on the Sparta of car boards.

Now to the OP I see that you are going to step up to 2000cc injectors? Will the ECU you are running even beable to control idle smoothly with those size injectors? Even AEM has issues with injectors over 1800cc. You may need to step up to an Autotronic or possibly a Haltech.

[S13 curtis]

Can you send me the link of the other guy runnin 800hp?

I was talking about you.;)

[s15specR]

I was talking about you.;)

funny stuff here!

[sdrmiami]

I was talking about you.;)


Im running Crower Billet rods.. lol

[sdrmiami]

These look interesting:
Moran Motorsports: Products (http://www.moranmotorsports.com/products/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=63&products_id=174&osCsid=4abe15662bf207b21d20453417f55c10)

However I like the ID-1000's I have now, if I upgrade I may switch to the ID-2000's:
Injector Dynamics 2200cc high impedance injector (http://www.t1racedevelopment.com/en/products/details/248/131/injector-dynamics/id2000/injector-dynamics-2200cc-high-impedance-injector.html)


This is the long term goal!


Go with the 235 Moran Motorsports.. you need a 10micron filter to run them but they are amazing.. Also, i recommend upgrading your fuel system, once you are making serious power the last thing you want is pump failure to be the reason your motor pop's. Get a good weldon 2025-a and never worry about your pump (unless your goin pass 1100hp) as far as fuel lines im running -8 feed and a stock return and we are ugrading to a -10 feed and -8 return @ 60psi of fuel

[S13 curtis]

Im running Crower Billet rods.. lol
my bad brain fart. guess i read it wrong but introuble is still a douche for saying eagle rods have problems over 500whp

[sdrmiami]

lol...........

[ross.cottrill]

Only advice I can give to you in this case is tread lightly over uncharted waters. Try and make friends as you begin your "1st" car build. You seem like a cool person from your other turbo thread, but now you are picking the wrong battles on the Sparta of car boards.

Now to the OP I see that you are going to step up to 2000cc injectors? Will the ECU you are running even beable to control idle smoothly with those size injectors? Even AEM has issues with injectors over 1800cc. You may need to step up to an Autotronic or possibly a Haltech.

thats what i was talking about,honestly,not many people know about these injector dynamics and how amazing they are...google it up and read up on it and youll see what im talking about..

[mwilloughby87]

congrats on the numbers shubash. wish i woulda kept my sr when i see you put down good numbers like this. get those new injectors and keep on rockin it man!

[SuicidnS13]

thats what i was talking about,honestly,not many people know about these injector dynamics and how amazing they are...google it up and read up on it and youll see what im talking about..

Looks like they are just custom bosch injectors. According to the supra guys most of them still do not like them larger than 1200cc and would rather run dual injectors in parrallel to each cylinder at 1000cc as it provides much smoother idle and part throttle characteristics. When we start adding 400% more fuel things start to get a little shaky with 75% of the stand alones out there. Id say AEM, Haltech, HKS and ProEFI or Autronic would be your best bet for running high numbers and having a daily driveable setup. I havent seen alot of Apexi PFC running on 1200cc or larger injectors yet. Map based systems will definately provide a much better tuning platform than any of the MAF based systems once your over 600whp IMO. Twin mafs and the plumbing associated is allready starting to get overkill. You can easily have purchased a MAP based Standalone for the cost of your old stand alone plus a twin maf setup.

[s15specR]

The tomei I am using is MAP based, but has it's limitations, a Haltech or AEM (among other) would be ideal.

[Flicktitty]

-6 Fuel lines, stock return, walbro intank and a bosch 044 inline.

Planning on using the -6 as the return and plumbing a -8an to the front when I swap out injectors.

However, I had enough fuel supply and fuel pressure, the injectors reached the limit.

Gotcha, sorry i must have missed the inline bosch and line size.

[s15specR]

It's all good, when i first layed out the build I designed the supprting mods on the 2871r, then I had to unexpectedly redo the head, so it grew into a top mount setup.

The fuel supply is accommodating but like sdrmiami said it's better to overdo than undero or even do just enough. If and when I swap injectors I will be using this feed as the return and plumb a -8an feed line.

Also keep in mind, the -6an nd stock return was not a problem, fuel supply was perfect, the injectors was limited, however that was my fault. I had planned on doing c/q16 but after seeing sdr's and a few others on e85 I gave it a try.

[SuicidnS13]

I wonder what you could get with c16. Although I love how easy it is to find e85 now.

[s15specR]

I wonder what you could get with c16. Although I love how easy it is to find e85 now.

Tuner said over 600hp or close to 650hp maybe.

[S13 curtis]

Tuner said over 600hp or close to 650hp maybe.

If you switch over to a .82 hotside im pretty sure it will be over 700whp with some good tuning, i was scrolling on evolutionm.net and there are a few that hit 700whp mark with the .82, but def with some more boost 650 will be cake.

[s15specR]

AMS ran this on their Evo, it dyno'd at around 750whp using the .82 turbine housing, and yes alot more boost.

I have some 90mm pistons sitting around, hopefully I get to use them!

[Mazworx_Sales]

They have a calculator on their site you can use to see which injector will work out for you.

For specific gravity, you can go to the fuel's website like VP racing and it gives you the input for the certain race gas. For E85 you will enter Average BSFC for E85 is about .750. SG for E85 is .79.

[Ninjabread]

That's some good numbers!

I'm actually considering using this same turbo on my 1jz.

Kinda looking for something sized between a 30R and 35R, and I've heard ALOT of good things about precision turbos.

[Flicktitty]

That's some good numbers!

I'm actually considering using this same turbo on my 1jz.

Kinda looking for something sized between a 30R and 35R, and I've heard ALOT of good things about precision turbos.
i would HIGHLY recommend this turbo or the PTE billet 6265. there making some awesome power with a great power band on the 1/2JZ motors. I actually just ordered a Billet 6265 last Friday for my 2JZ.

[ROIDMONKEY]

seriously get rid of that signature pic... annoying! the only thing is missing is kenny

[Flicktitty]

seriously get rid of that signature pic... annoying! the only thing is missing is kenny
oh jeez relax. :cops:

[s15specR]

That's some good numbers!

I'm actually considering using this same turbo on my 1jz.

Kinda looking for something sized between a 30R and 35R, and I've heard ALOT of good things about precision turbos.


There is a youtube video of a MK3 Supra with a 1jz running a HP6262, looks pretty bad ass.

[rbrixe1]

I've kept up with this thread for a while because it is so similiar to my build. Only difference is s13 motor, Aem ems, headgasket, and the cat back exhaust.
Finally got mine tuned this weekend.
Graphs are inconclusive due to wheel spin at around 6500rpms. Didn't know about drag radials not gripping on dynos.
Pump Gas at 19psi
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/rbrixe1/358b92da.jpg

E85 at 21.5psi
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz131/rbrixe1/60435d4f.jpg

[s15specR]

Damn! Amazing results man!

I have to get more fuel into my setup!

[rbrixe1]

Damn! Amazing results man!

I have to get more fuel into my setup!

Thanks man!! I was just praying to get numbers close to you. Was completely shocked by how well it did.

[b14 se-rious]

The numbers the OP made arent that great.

On a stock bottom end sr20 with a SC6176 stage 5 wheel and .82 housing at 23 psi on pump gas, 93 octane I made 505 whp

That was with

Stock bottom end
Acl bearings
ARP head studs
Cosworth Headgasket
272 12.5mm lift cams
Peakboost manifold
Custom intake manifold
100mm throttle body
Haltech e8
3" i/c piping
3" open downpipe

[S13 curtis]

rbx- You need to rev the car out alot more.