best big brake kit

[monaS14.5]

hey guys, i no there are many threadss but just wanna get some recent opinions incase anything new has come out....givee me some big brake kits that are popular in the drift world. im buildin a s14 for drift and i wanna get my brakes. jus lookn for opinions and reviews bout the big brake kits that are out there...thanxx

[roboticnissan]

willwood close thread

[drift_limo]

Endless bbk.

[ThatGuy]

Wilwood

240SX Brakes (http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html)

[R33E8]

240SX Brakes (http://www.arizonazcar.com/240sxbrakes.html)

Am I the only person afraid of what that guy sells? I would never run most of his stuff on my car..

Do you guys have any reason as to why you think Endless, Wilwood, etc are better than others? I hope the reason isn't "because so-and-so runs them"...

[drift_limo]

Am I the only person afraid of what that guy sells? I would never run most of his stuff on my car..

Do you guys have any reason as to why you think Endless, Wilwood, etc are better than others? I hope the reason isn't "because so-and-so runs them"...

endless. race proven.good quality. best in the market right now.
wilwood.race proven.good quailty.might be best for them money on the market.

or try ksports BBK. I heard they are pretty good also.

[sincity_sil80]

^^ no.. your speak lies jose.. lol jk

[tomato]

sti brake kit

[TheGrim]

ive got the wilwood 4 piston, performs great in all conditions.

[mendozasport]

i do believe that the bbk's on the market arent properly engineered for a daily driver
you did mention that you want a drift set up, wich might make my personal experience with wilwood relevant
my set-up consisted of z32 1 3/8 master, so after speeking to there customer service rep, i decided on 330mm 4 piston front calipers and stock z32 rears
i live in florida
it rains alot in summer time
MY EXPERIENCE and problem was brake lock up in rain, 235,40,18 sumitomo htr+ up front with proper thread,
after searching for a solucion turned to michelin's for more wet grip, did not solve the problem
now , dont get me wrong .... the system was working, but are designed for heavy loads, and mostly dry weather, and i restate , that was my experience and for a dd,with eventual track usage i must say wilwood is more of a track oriented setup and you should have caution
i ended up with, toyota tundra 4 piston and 320mm L400 rotors (center bore was machined to nissan spec)

[TheGrim]

yea, funny how the pads grab alot harder when its wet out. ive got ABS though, i've only felt it kick in to stop locking once and that was in ice conditions here in upstate NY. other than that they are great. my rears are stock calipers with upgraded pads, discs and ss lines.

[s15specR]

try performance friction, great stuff

[Howard92884]

I like that FAQ at that arizonazcar website.

Question: But I live in Chicago and drive it to work in the winter every day on severely pot holed streets covered with salt.
Answer: You're an idiot.

lol

[monaS14.5]

thanxxx guysss forr thee posts and info...keeeep em coming.....wilwoood is a very popularr namee so im leaning towards that.......also...any info on D2 big brake kits?

[Brian]

stick with a company that makes brakes.

ENDLESS.

[nathanong87]

project mu?

[gilby7887]

lol at faq

[jbuckley]

ksport dude

[drift_limo]

^^ no.. your speak lies jose.. lol jk

:love:

stick with a company that makes brakes.

ENDLESS.

ding ding ding!!!

[soreballz]

yea, funny how the pads grab alot harder when its wet out.
lol.
Anyone else find this statement amusing?

[timtiminy]

i ended up with, toyota tundra 4 piston and 320mm L400 rotors (center bore was machined to nissan spec)
Whats the center to center on mounting holes on the tundra calipers? they use the same pads as 300zx calipers yeah?

[lflkajfj12123]

oem gtr brembos or endless

[JRas]

do you really need a big brake kit for drifting?

[lflkajfj12123]

no but it looks sweet as fuck

[S14_Kouki]

Endless or wilwood or brembo


Fuck ksport why would u put cheap as shit on your "drift" car let alone any car someone builds.

[Otto347]

I have wilwood, 4 piston forged billet superlite with 13" cobra rotors. going to upgrade to the wilwood 2 piece when the dba rotors wear out. But you cant beat calipers for $160ish each, $80 for pads and rotors are around $300 and I made the caliper relocation mounts. Just over $700 big brake kit.

[codyace]

hey guys, i no there are many threadss but just wanna get some recent opinions incase anything new has come out....givee me some big brake kits that are popular in the drift world. im buildin a s14 for drift and i wanna get my brakes. jus lookn for opinions and reviews bout the big brake kits that are out there...thanxx

a set of 300zx calipers all around with a good pad will do just as good as anything else out there on a street tire.

[jspecusa]

I'm surprised no one said AP.
running a few lap around the track with Z32 all around,
you realized bigger is better.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

alcon
greddy
brembo f50
porsche
oem mack truck
oem boeing 777

[Marcus]

pmu ftw.

although you dont need big front brakes for drift unless you have a big huge heavy car. like an sc or gs or chaser. i would just get z32s with stock or slightly larger rotors and z32 rears with PBM rear rotors + hydro. that setup is great.

BUT i have to say, I have pmu. and they are sick as fuck. the cool factor is as outrageous as a skydiving donkey. i jsut had to brag lol.

[Brian]

95% of drifting is a showoff contest.
Big fancy brakes are pretty much a necessity.

[lflkajfj12123]

95% of drifting is a showoff contest.
Big fancy brakes are pretty much a necessity.

ShowUP, drift off.

[codyace]

95% of drifting is a showoff contest.
Big fancy brakes are pretty much a necessity.

That's a shame. Stock brakes with Xp14's would probably lock up tire the same :/

[dynamicck]

A big brake kit with a 2 piece rotor withOUT a floating rotor design is crap...like Rotas.

[Brian]

That's a shame. Stock brakes with Xp14's would probably lock up tire the same :/

hahaha STOCK BRAKES. Way to look like a loser.


I don't know what XP14 is... a pad perhaps?


So, what did we learn today?
Stock brakes are the worst. They look so stupid.

[lflkajfj12123]

http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/photopost/data/667/14181HPIM0816-med.jpg
vs
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll262/toyostarlet/IMGA2909.jpg

[codyace]

hahaha STOCK BRAKES. Way to look like a loser.


I don't know what XP14 is... a pad perhaps?


So, what did we learn today?
Stock brakes are the worst. They look so stupid.

I don't have stock ones either. They fade after stopping from 150+ all day on track. But for wannabe drift star like the O/P, a good set of pads is probably right up his budget.


What did we learn today?
Zilvia spends 2 pages suggesting what the best big brake kit is, yet only 5% of the the forum (being generous even with that percentage) even has used after market calipers. Oh well, that's how the net rolls.

[lflkajfj12123]

PostUP, ShowOFF.

[Brian]

HOT brakes that will be just fine.

1.
http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/endlessevo.jpg

2.
http://www.autonationals.com/images/project-mu-brake-set.jpg

3.
http://gtbitz.com/images/DSC01214.JPG

[Brian]

I don't have stock ones either. They fade after stopping from 150+ all day on track. But for wannabe drift star like the O/P, a good set of pads is probably right up his budget.


What did we learn today?
Zilvia spends 2 pages suggesting what the best big brake kit is, yet only 5% of the the forum (being generous even with that percentage) even has used after market calipers. Oh well, that's how the net rolls.


A k-mart tire will enable the car to roll around, but why the hell would you want to use that?

SHOWup SHOWoff

IF... and this is a HUGE if. IF a fella had to use stock brakes on his car, he should at LEAST use some aftermarket pads with a hot color like ENDLESS. Probably buy the fake calipers off ebay too. But then you still have the TINY rotors, so it's better in reality to just park the car before using the stock brakes.

But still, that would be the absolute WORST case scenario.

[Brian]

Triple post combo breaker.


Nasty
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/1101081358.jpg

SHOWup
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/1101081543.jpg

[codyace]

PostUP, ShowOFF.

http://www.codyace.com/albums/album56/walterdam112309_056.sized.jpg

http://www.codyace.com/albums/album56/walterdam112309_058.sized.jpg

13" Rotors up front, 300zx Aluminum 30mm's with XP12's
11.5 Rotors out back, Stock Calipers with XP12's
Z31 MC/ATE Blue
work perfect doing:
http://www.codyace.com/albums/album421/glen4.sized.jpg

all day long.

HOT brakes that will be just fine.

1.
http://www.0-60mag.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/endlessevo.jpg

2.
http://www.autonationals.com/images/project-mu-brake-set.jpg

3.
http://gtbitz.com/images/DSC01214.JPG


Chances O/P will run any of these? .3%

[codyace]

IF... and this is a HUGE if. IF a fella had to use stock brakes on his car, he should at LEAST use some aftermarket pads with a hot color like ENDLESS.

WOuldn't that be, faking the funk as the cool kids say?

[dynamicck]

http://www.calipercover.net/images/1140049964/p_caliper_cover_ENDLESS_set.jpg


caliper covers FTW!

[Brian]

I dont know what "faking the funk" is.
Sounds like a stupid phrase.

[lflkajfj12123]

codyace, i wasn't referring to you specifically we all know your car and its 400hpness

i was just saying thats what zilvia (drifting) / internet is about

[codyace]

I dont know what "faking the funk" is.
Sounds like a stupid phrase.

wouldn't it be?

[codyace]

codyace, i wasn't referring to you specifically we all know your car and its 400hpness

i was just saying thats what zilvia (drifting) / internet is about

Oh I know. I just have a hard time grasping the concept of looks>function.

I also get a kick out of 2 pages of suggestions on brakes that the O/P will never even use. It's like "Man I want a fast car" and people telling him to buy a 997 ya know?

Oh well. That's what makes this forum great.

[Brian]

Shut up and post hot brakes.



I'd like to attach some of those temperature stickers to my calipers. Anybody know where to get those?

[lflkajfj12123]

spend two years building a car with nice brakes, while all your friends are out drifting on 15's.

ShowUP, perfectSENSE.

[codyace]

I'd like to attach some of those temperature stickers to my calipers. Anybody know where to get those?

Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies - Home Page (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/) is where we got some for the ITA car.

[Brian]

http://www.carzi.com/wp-content/uploads/endless-mono6-brakes-nissan-gtr-2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3156/2936453497_a79b6b60a7_b.jpg
http://www.jdmaster.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/endless_calipers.jpg

[Brian]

Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies - Home Page (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/) is where we got some for the ITA car.

these? http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/THERMAX6-USED.JPG

[Tearlessj]

Stock brakes with new pads. Seriously your drifting.

[Brian]

hey guys, i no there are many threadss but just wanna get some recent opinions incase anything new has come out....givee me some big brake kits that are popular in the drift world. im buildin a s14 for drift and i wanna get my brakes. jus lookn for opinions and reviews bout the big brake kits that are out there...thanxx

I'd say, for the cost to hot ratio, your best bet is going to be some GTR brakes. R32 GTR are going to be your best bet, unless you want to up the ante and go with some 33 or 34 Brembos. Hot stats ++++ instantly.

You could get Z32 ones if you wanted to, but they don't look as good as GTRs, so hold out for some. OR, look into ER34 brakes. They look pretty hot too.

[codyace]

these? http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/Images/L/THERMAX6-USED.JPG

The ones on the Sentra were red, but they appear the same.

Someone else makes smaller ones (check racerpartswholseale or daymotorsports or something) for rear ones, but only ever used the front.

[TougeLabs]

ksport dude


:duh:They are worthless, would rather rock stock z32s for sure, anyway Willwood brake setup from AZ is awesome.

[lflkajfj12123]

HEY MAN!

I think he should just buy some upgraded pads for his stock brakes, I mean it is just drifting after all?

[codyace]

HEY MAN!

I think he should just buy some upgraded pads for his stock brakes, I mean it is just drifting after all?

If he's starting why not? May as well crack a few rims learning first ;)

[Brian]

HEY MAN!

I think he should just buy some upgraded pads for his stock brakes, I mean it is just drifting after all?

Yeah that's true.

I didn't think about it THAT way.

[vvtisupra]

http://x47.xanga.com/55df3a4520031254605275/o202404150.jpg


all day.

Reason:

1. StopTech brakes are are developed with balanced bias in mind.
2. StopTech bridge, patented stiffens calipers while making pad changes a sinch
3. Forged calipers
4. Rotor vanes increases cooling efficiency up to 20% compared to standard pillar vane designes
- patented curved vane design
- increased benefits: Doesn't require running redonkulous sized rotors to meet the same amount of cooling, decreases unsprung weight/ rotational weight/overall weight
- cools faster
5. Made here.
- easier to get rebuild parts
- quality control


6. Sizes specificially designed for each individual vehicle. Meaning piston size/brackets etc every aspect of your kit is designed specifically for your car. No shims/bolts/spacers.

7. All kits can be bought. Meaning nothing is special made just for specific race cars. unlike other companies who make street kits,but provide their sponsor race cars with a different unique set up. Whenever you see our kit on a race car its off the shelf.

8. DOT Certified. retains abs etc.

list goes on and on

[Slammed180]

Surprised it took that long to bring up Stoptech.

I'm running their rotors with my Brembo set-up = all the braking/SHOWoff I need.

[Devens240]

I have Powered by MAX big brake kit in the front with Z32 calipers. love em.

[NiSilS14]

Someone said post hot brakes


http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2009/02/ferrari_fxx_full_of_win_01.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3393379174_61cc3bd742.jpg?v=0
http://www.velocetoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/fdc-5.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3429/3731418339_19f80234e7.jpg

[NiSilS14]

To the OP, I'll give you $10 CASH and a big mac, if you run this.


http://festivalofspeed.net/images/News/CarbonDisc.jpg

+

http://image.superstreetonline.com/f/9347282/130_0207_024_z+2006_SEMA_auto_show+brembo_monobloc k_calipers.jpg

Carbon ceramic rotors + Brembo monobloc calipers = perfect for drifting.

[Slammed180]

lol, that's cost effective.

[lflkajfj12123]

6 pot

step your game up

[monaS14.5]

hahaha guyss thankkk you forr all tha info...and the key thing is..yeah u can use stock breaks for drifting..but presentation is also a huge factor aswell as soem of yous have said. im goin witha big brake kit and no less....thanks for all the help tho guys : )

[Brian]

Well, which one is it going to be?

[lflkajfj12123]

YEAH man, what did you learn from all this?

WHATS IT GONNA BE?

[Brian]

Spill the beans, poindexter.

[s14_driver]

wilwood fur sure

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/ricardo951/my%20240sx/PICT0008.jpg

[Brian]

I don't know about Wilwood.

There isn't much hype or excitement surrounding them.
No JDM points.
No hot color.
You don't see them on hot cars.


They probably brake very well, but.... no style factor.

:/

[BustedS13]

who has the hottest colorways this season?
gotta say, SOLID COLOR calipers are getting played out. somebody should start a brake boutique with LIMITED RUN GRAPHX.

[S14_Kouki]

I don't know about Wilwood.


You don't see them on hot cars.


They probably brake very well, but.... no style factor.

:/

Thats because 90% of ppl that use them, use them on dirt track.

Style factor comes from the powder coating shop :)

[monaS14.5]

i think im either goin wilwood n painting the calipar, stoptech n the same or goin with the d2 setup.....got a few weeks to make the final decision tho. thanx 4 tha help

[mattack69]

Get the damn Willwoods for up front and Z's in the rear, you can have the Wilwood's powder coated a different color if you want, they offered me that when I called in the order...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o20/2Fass240us/Project_240/MattyBrakes/Complete_003.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o20/2Fass240us/Project_240/MattyBrakes/Complete_006.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o20/2Fass240us/Project_240/MattyBrakes/Calipers_006.jpg

Done. Total cost $1,200.00

Comparison for ref...:
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o20/2Fass240us/Project_240/MattyBrakes/Rotors_001.jpg

[lflkajfj12123]

6 pot is pretty nuts

but it still doesn't say BREMBO or ENDLESS on them :/

[kalypso123]

That's a shame. Stock brakes with Xp14's would probably lock up tire the same :/

you mean carbotech's

A big brake kit with a 2 piece rotor withOUT a floating rotor design is crap...like Rotas.

woah... just learned what a floating rotor is.

@[email protected] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_brake)

[kalypso123]

somebody should start a brake boutique with LIMITED RUN GRAPHX.

:eek3: {msg}

[Brian]

Disappointed with the result of this thread.

Would not recommend to others.

[Cash]

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Ben/Brakes/brakes_gold_brembo.jpg


Like artwork. I'd rather have this in a glass display case in my foyer than on my car.

[Marcus]

MUAHAHAHA

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll110/samaniego_ms/DSC04624.jpg
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll110/samaniego_ms/DSC04625.jpg

lol why not make this a brake thread since op got his answer

[BustedS13]

wow bro
look at them colors
YOUR SETUP IS HYPHY

[abunai the drifter]

I say Ap racing that what nissan runs on their superGT GTR need i say more

[lflkajfj12123]

ever heard of something called SPONSORS?

[ROIDMONKEY]

any of all of the above .... ANYYYY

[TurboFC3C]

Putting my project Mu's to use
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4045/4207539519_0d486402d0_b.jpg
Are they overkill? Yes.
But they make me smile when I look at them. :)

[lflkajfj12123]

are those do-luck double sixs?

[TurboFC3C]

In the rear, yes. I had them powdercoated white along with the Z33 track wheels.

[lflkajfj12123]

sweet + street cred

[GripTerror]

So basically *writes down notes*

Powder coated calipers = better

*ditches his track proven front and rear wilwood calipers with 2 piece rotors*

What was I thinking! All along what I needed was powder coated jdm calipers!

[nathanong87]

Disappointed with the result of this thread.

Would not recommend to others.

this made me lol

[Brian]

So basically *writes down notes*

Powder coated calipers = better

*ditches his track proven front and rear wilwood calipers with 2 piece rotors*

What was I thinking! All along what I needed was powder coated jdm calipers!


Hmmmmpfffffff :rollseyes

It's not that easy.
You gotta have the LOOK as well as the JDM name to go along with it.
example
ENDLESS brake kit. Oooooo weeeeeeeeee, hot star comin down the street
GReddy brake kit. Ehhhh, not so cool. Better off with painted GTR calipers.

[beb]

I personally prefer Project Mu. I ran them on my s2000 and will definitely run them on the S14 as well. PMu makes all their product in-house (one of the FEW that do) and is race-proven as well. My B-Force compound on the s2000 were very responsive cold or hot and what can I say, I do love that turquoise color... lol

[GripTerror]

This is what I needed to get Stage 1. Stage 2 I need an YASHIO FACTORY painted on there in white. Then I'll be maad JDM

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/110/1861/25273430045_large.jpg

[nathanong87]

brian, i think u need to make some SHOWup SHOWoff stickers lmao

[Brian]

This is what I needed to get Stage 1. Stage 2 I need an YASHIO FACTORY painted on there in white. Then I'll be maad JDM

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/110/1861/25273430045_large.jpg

God, that is STUPID.
What a STUPID post. Waste of time and space.
You should be fined.

[vvtisupra]

what other brakes have you ran in comparison?

if you have only tried one set of brakes... well then thats kinda one sided.



I personally prefer Project Mu. I ran them on my s2000 and will definitely run them on the S14 as well. PMu makes all their product in-house (one of the FEW that do) and is race-proven as well. My B-Force compound on the s2000 were very responsive cold or hot and what can I say, I do love that turquoise color... lol

[vvtisupra]

To be honest I've driven /worked on wilwoods on an s13. It felt like running a 300zx caliper set up on the front with stock s13 master. but it did have a 13 inch rotor

I don't know about Wilwood.

There isn't much hype or excitement surrounding them.
No JDM points.
No hot color.
You don't see them on hot cars.


They probably brake very well, but.... no style factor.

:/

[nwmrkt]

how bout Rotora?

[Brian]

Nope.

negative points.

[Chamb-O]

sooo many pistons
NOBODY knows what to do with them

http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/wm.php/images/rotorafc12brakekit.jpg

[Touge Noob S13]

The Endless 12 piston calipers are nicer.

[Marcus]

what other brakes have you ran in comparison?

if you have only tried one set of brakes... well then thats kinda one sided.


I'VE only tried one set. and i am SUPER BIASED. pmu ftw lol.
they make me smile when i see them too.

[beb]

what other brakes have you ran in comparison?

if you have only tried one set of brakes... well then thats kinda one sided.

Wilwoods.

:)

I'VE only tried one set. and i am SUPER BIASED. pmu ftw lol.
they make me smile when i see them too.

:axe::axe::axe::axe:

[GripTerror]

16" REAR bbk!

Ksport 16 Inch Procomp REAR Big Brake System :: Big Brake Kits :: Brakes & Rotors :: UtraRev.com (http://www.ultrarev.com/product.php?productid=70768)

70lbs package lmao

The caliper itself is 11" hahahahaha.

Anyways jokes aside, this is no different than the coilover/dampers debate... if you want show and shine its already clear what you will do. If you want practicality, stoping power, engineering you'll most likely go with some wilwoods, ap racing, baer, stoptech etc... while if you're bling bling jdm and shiny you'll go with some of these other silly show options.

Wilwoods in my opinion are best bang for the buck of what you're getting. Lightweight descently strong calipers (really lightweight) that are well priced and many rotor and pad options... cant go wrong with that.

[lflkajfj12123]

whats so show about brembo? or even endless?

they perform just as good as the rest and boost street credentials

[Brian]

It's the anti-Japanese guys....

[Touge Noob S13]

16" REAR bbk!

Anyways jokes aside, this is no different than the coilover/dampers debate... if you want show and shine its already clear what you will do. If you want practicality, stoping power, engineering you'll most likely go with some wilwoods, ap racing, baer, stoptech etc... while if you're bling bling jdm and shiny you'll go with some of these other silly show options.

Wilwoods in my opinion are best bang for the buck of what you're getting. Lightweight descently strong calipers (really lightweight) that are well priced and many rotor and pad options... cant go wrong with that.

I bet you have Sparco seats and like LS1's.:ughd:

[S14_Kouki]

^^^ lol fucking ksport shit

[Red Square]

no AP love here. they makes kits for 240sx with one or two piece rotors. depend on what you want, range from $1600 to alot.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/RedSquareGT/s14/ap5.jpg