isis coilovers

[jrhgolf23]

ive searched for a review or anything about these, but i didnt find anything.
apparently isis came out ith some coilovers. idk if theyre new but i havent seen them before. lol. i cant really judge a book by its cover but idk, they look alright and theyre dirt cheap. does anyone know anything about these? any pics or anything?
*ISIS Basic HR Coilovers - Nissan 240sx 89-93 [ IS-HR-S13 ] - Enjuku Racing - Performance Parts and High Quality Fabrication (http://www.enjukuracing.com/isis-basic-coilovers-nissan-240sx-8993-p-9092.html)

[Brian]

Probably the same shit that everybody sells.

Same shit, different colors. Cheap price, cheap quality.

Buy them and let us know.

[enkei2k]

these are new. i believe they were just realeased a few days ago max, so i doubt any private reviews are available. you could be the first to review them and let us know like Brian said.

[garagelu]

When it comes to car parts and especially performance parts....you get what you pay for. I personally would never run anything that cheap. For 1100 dollars you can get some stance gr+ coilovers. They are proven and people love them. I have tein on my car and love them.

For the price of those isis coilovers, I would rather just run kyb agx and eibach springs.

[jrhgolf23]

well i would buy them and test them, but i dont have a 240 yet. lol
i just noticed them and was wondering about them

[93nismo]

:o thats godspeed range... get a 240 and test em:]

[ZX88]

looks the same as godspeed. thats pretty much what isis is.

[s13 @ fullboost]

ehh Idk those look iffy

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

looks the same as godspeed. thats pretty much what isis is.

i concur.

isis
http://www.enjukuracing.com/images/s13coiloversnew.jpg

godspeed
http://www.godspeedproject.com/store/images/suspension/s13hyper.jpg

[Brian]

Shoot... I'm going to start selling this junk if it continues to be so popular.

I bet the cost on each set is about.... $300 at most.

[andmattsayd]

pics of coils on a hatch
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4162078352_a0e2c80fed_b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/boobakup/IMG00040-20091205-1442.jpg
I'm thinking about getting some.

[Xbroke_kidX]

Same old ebay crap. Why cant people just save a little more money and buy something decent? Dmax, PBM?

[Brian]

Because they don't care anymore, I think.

[5t341tH]

how many colors are these cheap crap gonna come out with?
red, blue, yellow, green.
probably the whole rainbow soon

[ViciousCesar!]

don't waste your money. save up a little more and get some that you won't have to replace after a few months.

[Matej]

Same old ebay crap. Why cant people just save a little more money and buy something decent? Dmax, PBM?
Because they think ISIS is a 'real' brand name. Then they make fun of people with 'Ebay' parts. They are just terrible shoppers I think, unaware that they could have bought the same thing on Ebay for 200$ less.

[TurboFC3C]

Is December "Cheapass Month"? What is the deal with the sudden explosion in cheap wheels/coils/suspension parts?

[shiftdrift]

i love how everyone is making fun of isis.....anyways, they have been out for a few months, but they are out of stock because they sold out so fast. isis made them not knowing how they were gonna sell and now they are in the process of making more. i was going to pick up a set of these, but got bored with waiting so i got some JIC's. i've heard good things about them, only bad thing i've heard is the rear can't be dropped as much as people would like. isis is just like megan in my opinion, they started out as a "ebay" company but they are turning into a good product for the price, Enjuku Racing backs all of their isis products and isis offers an AMAZING WARRANTY! they are all about keeping their customers happy.

[Matej]

ISIS did not make them, they ordered them from the same factory as Godspeed or whatever 'Ebay company,' and painted them yellow. I guess they ran out of yellow paint.

At least Godspeed and all the other cheap/knockoff companies are not trying to trick anyone that they aren't selling a repackaged 'Ebay' product.

[ZX88]

i love how everyone is making fun of isis.....anyways, they have been out for a few months, but they are out of stock because they sold out so fast. isis made them not knowing how they were gonna sell and now they are in the process of making more. i was going to pick up a set of these, but got bored with waiting so i got some JIC's. i've heard good things about them, only bad thing i've heard is the rear can't be dropped as much as people would like. isis is just like megan in my opinion, they started out as a "ebay" company but they are turning into a good product for the price, Enjuku Racing backs all of their isis products and isis offers an AMAZING WARRANTY! they are all about keeping their customers happy.



hmmm warrentee only applies if its installed professionally, seriously isis is just a variant company.

[shiftdrift]

nah, if you have a problem with one of the products, they will definitely work with you and most likely swap it out.

[Matej]

How many people actually get a chance to take advantage of the warranty? Maybe 5% at most I would guess. For the price difference you pay, you might as well buy a brand new part off Ebay if something ever goes wrong with the first one. Plus most Ebay stores have warranties/returns/exchanges/customer service as well.

[kalypso123]

PBM's are only 1000.... this thread makes no sense.

[decay]

i bought their old coils enjuku sold. the red/maroon isis ones. they had a "MDU" sticker on it. did some online interweb research and found out they are actually ebay coilovers.

when i installed them, the rears were fine. but when i installed the fronts, it all went down hill. they fit fine and everything. but when i lowered the car, the front was so high. it was like stock height. i adjusted them to the lowest setting and it went down just a hair. its terrible. my car is sitting like i got 100 pounds worth of sandbags in my trunk.


i don't know about the new ones (gold) that they are selling though.

[Touge Noob S13]

Isis is selling coilovers now?:duh: You know you've hit rock bottom when you consider crap like Isis and Godspeed to be decent.

[didderson]

PBM's are only 1000.... this thread makes no sense.

+1.

If you can't tell this shit is probably made in the same factory as all generic ebay coils... :rimshot:

Did ISIS ever make a R&D thread like MAX USA? Just the re-engineering on their parts alone sets them worlds apart.
Idk. I'm blown away. Americans aren't like Europeans, whom realize the more expensive Mercedes will last longer than the VW's and buy the more expensive one first. People never think about long term costs.

[Brian]

Hey guys, these might be really high quality....

[drift_limo]

Isis is selling coilovers now?:duh: You know you've hit rock bottom when you consider crap like Isis and Godspeed to be decent.


Seriously....

but i guess if your in a budget and cant afford some tanabe's or stance or even some zeal get them if not save your pennies and spring for some good known coils...

[Csomme]

I don't understand.....PBM's are only 1000 dollars as previously stated. Why would you waste your money?

Is it just me or are all the new kids from Nico coming over here too?

[lightsource]

"occasional track use" ya, more like "don't use these on the track or your car will blow up.

Anyway, it seems that people judge coilovers by how low they can drop the car rather than how GOOD the actual coilover is... Amirite?

[nixad]

OK Enough of the jibber jabber opinions

start laying down facts why they suck.. so far i've only read one

[codyace]

OK Enough of the jibber jabber opinions

start laying down facts why they suck.. so far i've only read one


Ultimately, who cares. These will lower the car, make it stiff, and upgrade the handling of the car. That's all 95 of 240 owners want anyway. Half these people saying 'oh this sucks' or 'that sucks' wouldn't tell the difference unless they were told whats under the car.

[shiftdrift]

you should really talk to enjukuracing about them, they tested them and sell them, they would know more than anyone. i believe a company that backs the products they sell, sell good products.

[Csomme]

Anyway, it seems that people judge coilovers by how low they can drop the car rather than how GOOD the actual coilover is... Amirite?


More like how cheap they can get them for than how good they are.

And if you compare the two pictures of the godspeed and the ISIS suspension you will clearly see that they are exactly the same.

So stop asking for ISIS reviews and go back and read the Godspeed ones.....oh.....wait. what am I thinking? People that actually bought the Godspeed ones didn't even have the common sense to buy a decent product, so they probably won't even have the brains to write a sensible review. lol.


Silly me

[Bumnah]

No monotube, no care.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

They've got to be Godspeeds but a different color. Motoria is the parent company for most of the graymarket shit out there. I know the ISIS suspension arms are the exact same thing as Godspeed AKA Motoria.

[!Zar!]

People should just give up arguing.

OP: Buy them.

That's what you want us to say, right?

Have fun.

[Touge Noob S13]

I think I once heard someone on zilvia say that Godspeed is "supporting the community":hide:

[codyace]

People should just give up arguing.

OP: Buy them.

That's what you want us to say, right?

Have fun.

lol :tardrim: I've never thought about these threads that way...I guess in the grand scheme of things, they've already decided that they want them...they are simply looking for approval. Genious. Does this stuff happen in premier land at all?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

lol :tardrim: I've never thought about these threads that way...I guess in the grand scheme of things, they've already decided that they want them...they are simply looking for approval. Genious. Does this stuff happen in premier land at all?
No, thank god.

[shiftdrift]

op, it's up to you what to buy, no matter what we say. I could sit here and tell you godspeed is better than hks. that doesn't make it true though. if you want good stuff but can't afford it, try and find it used. nothing wrong with 2nd hand stuff :)

[sincity_sil80]

man dont be a poon, take chances and get them.. they look legit.. lmao jk.. instead of trying to convince people.. let them learn from their own mistakes

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

it's not about buying good stuff or bad stuff. it's just a simple fact that regardless of what you want to buy, people will tell you that you are wrong. just buy it.

[lewisfk]

How about this, if they suck your out of 500 bucks or less, if they don't than your set! I hate that everyone saying by this brand or that brand! Is anyone here getting paid to support any of the name brands? I'm not, so I just want my moneys worth! If you purchased these coil overs please tell me your honest opinion! If u haven't purchased them and you can only assume than shut the fuck up! When u assume... well everyone knows the rest!

[theslows13]

hahah, everyone loves the salesman regardless of the product.

a GOOD salesman would just be honest and tell you they are crap, and try and sell you the REAL shit, with all the right reasons of why you should invest MORE of your money in his company's premier products.

i see ISIS as enjuku's "easy way out" of this economic rut we are in. "sell cheap parts otherwise ill tank"... makes sense on a longevity outlook, but in reality is taking a deuce on the consumer.

and if "ISIS" is soooo great... why is enjuku the ONLY one EVER to carry their line?

right.

carry on.

[BustedS13]

hmmm warrentee only applies if its installed professionally, seriously isis is just a variant company.

"VARIANT" DOES NOT GODDAMN MEAN "KNOCKOFF"
"VARIANT" IS WHAT SOME CUMSTAIN USED ON THIS FORUM IN PLACE OF "KNOCKOFF" TO SCAM PEOPLE INTO BUYING HIS BULLSHIT FAKE BRIDE SEATS AND JUNK.
DO NOT POPULARIZE "VARIANT" AS MEANING "KNOCKOFF", for FUCK'S SAKE

[lflkajfj12123]

^ this.

also no one said they suck, just no one said they were good.

[DreamN]

^^ Umm what?

[mrchomponthis]

Get them hard parkers

[ayuaddict]

i'm sure they handle great when you're backed into a parking spot.

[lflkajfj12123]

^^ Umm what?

Yes.

msglength

[ayuaddict]

oh, and once again,

chinese kids.

if we play our cards right, one day we will be able to use asians as an alternate fuel source.

[deuceforty]

More like how cheap they can get them for than how good they are.

And if you compare the two pictures of the godspeed and the ISIS suspension you will clearly see that they are exactly the same.

So stop asking for ISIS reviews and go back and read the Godspeed ones.....oh.....wait. what am I thinking? People that actually bought the Godspeed ones didn't even have the common sense to buy a decent product, so they probably won't even have the brains to write a sensible review. lol.


Silly me

comparing pictures isnt really a fair comparison, how they look has nothing to do with the quality of the dampener and the valving.. which is the only reason i would buy a coilover anyway

[Enjuku Racing]

Wow.. this thread blew up very quickly. I will do my best to answer as many of the questions and comments i ran through.

First about the ISIS coilovers:
No, they are not Godspeed, or any other coilover. The manufacturing plant that some parts are produced may be the same, however the overall design is different. Not all the parts are built in the same place.

ISIS asked us to sell their coilovers, but for along time we did not want to. For this exact reason, people would look bad at Enjuku for selling a lesser expensive product. Guess what, we sell what the customers ask for........However, like every other product of theirs i said we would test and then decide.

We got a set, tested them on some demo cars and our own and for the money thought they were good. However we wanted to have them change a few things on them. One being how low the front goes. If you look at the entire shock body and spring on the Front of the ISIS coilovers you will notice they are DIFFERENT than the other brands out there. The valving is also different.

My thoughts on coilovers:
There are most likley over 1000 "brands" of coilovers. Do you think there are 1000 different manufacturing plants? No, but I bet that 800 of those brands have some difference. 90% of the time you are paying for a name or the slight difference in any product, car related or otherwise.

ISIS Arms:
These are 100% NOT ANYONE ELSES!! ISIS sent us a few sets to test, we didnt like them at all. So we completely redesigned them ourselves. Out of all the ISIS products we had our hand in these more than anything else. If you look at the sweep on the RUCA, The thickness on all the tubing, and the rod ends... they are NO ONE ELSES!! I personally did most of these. So you can all stop that argument. Whether someone has already coppied the ISIS arms, that i dont have much control over.

I have already seen companies copy ISIS products... It happens quick, one reason we try to keep them ahead of the game.

Why does Enjuku sell ISIS? - Because the market demands it. that is how business works. For years i fought that as a business owner. I only wanted to sell high end big name parts, and for 8 years i did. However, the MAJORITY of the 240sx community wants an inexpensive, Quality Part, sold by a reputible company - HENCE - Enjuku Racing sells ISIS.

Who is ISIS? ISIS is an over seas company/manufactuer that has been asking us to sell their stuff for years, which we resisted until a little over a year ago. We are helping them with product development and branding here in the US. There have been about 30 ISIS products that we have tested that we have either had them change or said we would not sell, because it was not up to our standards for the money.

Who else sells ISIS? ISIS is sold through about 25 different shops at this time. Enjuku is not the only seller of ISIS. Why are they selling it also? Because the market demands it.

I dont know why people get their panties so up in a bunch over this stuff.

If you want an inexpensive part that has been tested, proven, and is stood behind by one of the longest standing Nissan shops in the country.. then buy ISIS.

If you want a high end name brand.. CALL ME.. I SELL IT and have been for over 10 years!!!

It is pretty simple. I dont see the need for any arguing or name calling.


Feel free to email me - [email protected] or call me 352-241-8399 if you ever have any questions.

Sincerely,
Ken Harrison

[SoSideways]

Next time I see you Ken, maybe when Eric is in town again, I'll buy you a beer!

[EnjukuBG]

:trogdor::aw:

[Enjuku Racing]

Next time I see you Ken, maybe when Eric is in town again, I'll buy you a beer!

BEER!!! Ok.. I will take you up on that offer... really.. anyone that wants to buy me a beer i will take. I have been known for trading parts for beer......

AHAHAH

thanks man
Ken

[240cracker]

i want that damn isis exhaust

[Slidin240Wayz]

The market has demanded it.

High quality parts are still available.

Keep on moving.

[ProjectGarage]

BEER!!! Ok.. I will take you up on that offer... really.. anyone that wants to buy me a beer i will take. I have been known for trading parts for beer......

AHAHAH

thanks man
Ken

Parts for BEER?!?!?! Holy shit, Ill come by there get you a twelve pack and give you a massage!

[Enjuku Racing]

Parts for BEER?!?!?! Holy shit, Ill come by there get you a twelve pack and give you a massage!

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.... Nice !!!

[deuceforty]

i gave BG nudes of me for discounts on parts

[Enjuku Racing]

i gave BG nudes of me for discounts on parts

I will need to have a serious sit down with BG on this!!!

He should have at least forwarded them to me!! AHAHAHAHAAH jk

[deuceforty]

I will need to have a serious sit down with BG on this!!!

He should have at least forwarded them to me!! AHAHAHAHAAH jk

in all serious ive done a fair bit of business with you guys through him. without him i honestly probably wouldnt have ordered anything from enjuku. I have been more than satisfied with the many many transactions i have made though, im well in the thousands i think, not really keeping track.

i buy through enjuku because its enthusiasts selling to enthusiasts not just to make money (which dont get me wrong is the whole idea) but also to be there to support the scene and those involved.

thanks again for everything guys

[EnjukuBG]

i gave BG nudes of me for discounts on parts
http://www.nastyhobbit.org/forum/animated_gifs/robocop-fap.gif

[EnjukuBG]

in all serious ive done a fair bit of business with you guys through him. without him i honestly probably wouldnt have ordered anything from enjuku. I have been more than satisfied with the many many transactions i have made though, im well in the thousands i think, not really keeping track.

i buy through enjuku because its enthusiasts selling to enthusiasts not just to make money (which dont get me wrong is the whole idea) but also to be there to support the scene and those involved.

thanks again for everything guys

No doubt homie! Im just here to help people who drift better than I do, which is practically everyone lol :p

[enkei2k]

Why does Enjuku sell ISIS? - Because the market demands it. that is how business works. For years i fought that as a business owner. I only wanted to sell high end big name parts, and for 8 years i did. However, the MAJORITY of the 240sx community wants an inexpensive, Quality Part, sold by a reputible company - HENCE - Enjuku Racing sells ISIS.

This. This statement is what it is all about. All you cheap ass <20 somethings ask for lower prices on items, Enjuku has delivered with ISIS. There are more cheap/broke ass 240's than there are enthusiasts out there. Thus is the life of a 240 owner since the dorifto scene broke out.

/thread

[SoSideways]

No doubt homie! Im just here to help people who drift better than I do, which is practically everyone lol :p

Well you better hook me up.

I've heard so much from Pat, Tom, AK and Eric about you, but I've never actually met you in person.

I need to get my damned car done and hit up some events next year.

BTW, Eric was supposed to ask you guys about the fender roller biz for me.... perhaps PM me about it?

[EnjukuBG]

This. This statement is what it is all about. All you cheap ass <20 somethings ask for lower prices on items, Enjuku has delivered with ISIS. There are more cheap/broke ass 240's than there are enthusiasts out there. Thus is the life of a 240 owner since the dorifto scene broke out.

/thread

I don't resent the community for wanting cheaper parts. Some people have different beliefs and opinions. Build your car, stay true to yourself, and buy what you want to buy. If you have any issues with ISIS stuff, don't hesistate to call us, WE warranty ISIS stuff, you don't have to go through them and wait 6 months for them to just look at the product like the typical product warranty goes.


NOW
/thread

Well you better hook me up.

I've heard so much from Pat, Tom, AK and Eric about you, but I've never actually met you in person.

I need to get my damned car done and hit up some events next year.

BTW, Eric was supposed to ask you guys about the fender roller biz for me.... perhaps PM me about it?

Whats your name? And we don't fender roll, but I think driftlogic does that, Sam from here in orlando.

[deuceforty]

No doubt homie! Im just here to help people who drift better than I do, which is practically everyone lol :p

drifting is just drifting bro.

if you can pump your fists at the end of the day and do jaeger bombs thats all that really matters

[haggard240]

that was a beutiful speech totally i got megan coils there pretty much brand new so i won't need to buy any but.. i will be buying isis product soon as i find a damn job lol i want the DUAL TIP! so bad!

[bigs]

lol :tardrim: I've never thought about these threads that way...I guess in the grand scheme of things, they've already decided that they want them...they are simply looking for approval. Genious. Does this stuff happen in premier land at all?

Genious? really? hahahaha

[rb26man]

buy them test them then post your feed back on them

[ZX88]

I will need to have a serious sit down with BG on this!!!

He should have at least forwarded them to me!! AHAHAHAHAAH jk

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g24/zx88/thumbsup.gif

[s13 @ fullboost]

this thread is funny well I would only buy these as a gift I wouldn't put them on my car though.

[s13gebala]

does isis have a shop where they build their own products?

or are they just hustlas

[SoSideways]

Whats your name? And we don't fender roll, but I think driftlogic does that, Sam from here in orlando.

Eric calls me Data, but like Pat, Tom and AK would probably refer to me by my name as Ernest.

[s13newb]

lol funniest shit .

[BTP]

well i guess ill try them out.enjuku racing is the shit BTW keep it up.

[nixad]

** standing ovation **

[nissansrbetter16]

in all serious ive done a fair bit of business with you guys through him. without him i honestly probably wouldnt have ordered anything from enjuku. I have been more than satisfied with the many many transactions i have made though, im well in the thousands i think, not really keeping track.

i buy through enjuku because its enthusiasts selling to enthusiasts not just to make money (which dont get me wrong is the whole idea) but also to be there to support the scene and those involved.

thanks again for everything guys


Not on subject but I am going to second this motion, I have called you guys many times about just damn near everything and have never been let down,BG has put in many part orders for me, and I receive them within 3-5 days which is great because I live in the middle of no where, you guys are by far the best company that I have done business with hands down
thanks :bow:

[Flicktitty]

I'm not standing up for ISIS coilovers/Godspeed coilovers/Ebay coilovers.

but i would like to see the percentage of these coilovers ACTUALLY FAILING/breaking.

I know all you guy's preach to high heaven about "OMG STANCE,PBM,TEIN,TANABE,YASHIO FACTORY,etc etc"

and so forth but i would REALLY like to see some sort of compairison test's against these $1200 + coilovers Vs. Ebay $500 coilovers.

and i would like to see someone with the "jerkoff baller status coilovers" give a average 240sx owner the keys to there car, then have the same person the "pos ebay coilovers" and see if they know the differance between them.

i would strongly believe NOT many people will be able to tell the differance except maybe how stiff/soft they are.

personally i don't really care. It just seems like to many parking lot warriors pray on Stance/etc. and shit about ebay shit yet they don't have the driving skill to make the money differance worth it. fuck most people buy them just to get "MOAR LOW"

just another reason why i'm sick of the S-chassis scene.

[prodigyJJ]

All I'm really concerned with is when will ISIS be making s14 coilovers? I don't care about ride height. I'm not f'n gangsta and don't give a damn about VIP. My Avalanche with leather seats is plush enough. LOL. I'm just the guy that want to replace my 269XXX mile suspension with functional parts. I do maybe one SCCA event a year.

That's my rant. Sorry guys. Anyway. Yeah s14 coils would be great enjuku. I'll be one of the buyers

[Touge Noob S13]

All I'm really concerned with is when will ISIS be making s14 coilovers? I don't care about ride height. I'm not f'n gangsta and don't give a damn about VIP. My Avalanche with leather seats is plush enough. LOL. I'm just the guy that want to replace my 269XXX mile suspension with functional parts. I do maybe one SCCA event a year.

That's my rant. Sorry guys. Anyway. Yeah s14 coils would be great enjuku. I'll be one of the buyers


Did you ever consider a nice set of shocks and springs?

[JurisMyDiction]

All I'm really concerned with is when will ISIS be making s14 coilovers? I don't care about ride height. I'm not f'n gangsta and don't give a damn about VIP. My Avalanche with leather seats is plush enough. LOL. I'm just the guy that want to replace my 269XXX mile suspension with functional parts. I do maybe one SCCA event a year.

That's my rant. Sorry guys. Anyway. Yeah s14 coils would be great enjuku. I'll be one of the buyers


couldn't have said it better. too many of the people on this site are concerned with "baller status." what they don't realize is that not everyone wants their 240 to be the collest 240 on the planet. when i buy suspension, it's gonna be hard for me to decide between a USED set of something decent or a BRAND NEW set of WARRANTIED coilovers that nobody but a professional driver is going to know the difference of. make fun of me all you want but my car will ride much better than it did before, insignificantly worse than your baller shit, and the best part i don't have to debate myself about whether i should buy suspension or pay my rent! when i want to be comfortable i drive my dakota quad cab, it rides smooth as shit, is lifted and is comfortable as hell. want i want to treat a car like a dirty whore, i take out the 240

[jorge1190]

Im not saying Isis will be like other Ebay brands, but when i rode in my friends 240 with Godspeeds I could definitely feel the difference between those and my Bridgestone NPG's because everytime he hit a bump the car would bounce for another 30 feet.

[JurisMyDiction]

Im not saying Isis will be like other Ebay brands, but when i rode in my friends 240 with Godspeeds I could definitely feel the difference between those and my Bridgestone NPG's because everytime he hit a bump the car would bounce for another 30 feet.


we need someone to pony up the cash and buy them. i don't get paid until the 24th (which is when i plan on buying coilovers) but i wouldn't mind trying a set. i'd definitely get them if i could work out a bit of a discount for being the "zilvia guinea pig"

[97240TB]

I've placed orders with enjuku on several occations and even got my Stance GR SS-D's through them, Out of the companies I've dealt with they have come through for me better then any other... I feel if they are willing to put there (for a lack of better words) neck out there and sell these coilovers, then thats more then enough reason for me to think they might be worth looking into. Like others have said Take the dive try them out and give us your review, Oh and Goodluck!

[udon!]

pics of coils on a hatch
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2758/4162078352_a0e2c80fed_b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/boobakup/IMG00040-20091205-1442.jpg
I'm thinking about getting some.

umm... i hope you dont think thats low or anything...

[udon!]

No comparison.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1251590465_2_FT4523_p1050270.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/GST_Slapnut/DSC03132.jpg
http://gangsta-original.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/img_0399_500x375shkl.JPG

[BustedS13]

^look at this fucking cool kid here.

[beardo]

i love how everyone is making fun of isis.....anyways, they have been out for a few months, but they are out of stock because they sold out so fast. isis made them not knowing how they were gonna sell and now they are in the process of making more. i was going to pick up a set of these, but got bored with waiting so i got some JIC's. i've heard good things about them, only bad thing i've heard is the rear can't be dropped as much as people would like. isis is just like megan in my opinion, they started out as a "ebay" company but they are turning into a good product for the price, Enjuku Racing backs all of their isis products and isis offers an AMAZING WARRANTY! they are all about keeping their customers happy.


I love how you think "isis" manufactured those coilovers. A while back a Taiwanese company contacted my friend (who sells autoparts) and offered to manufacture his own brand of coilovers. Any colours he wants, any logo spring rate etc, for a very very reasonable price. I guarantee these cheap ebay coilovers are all made in taiwan in the same place by the same company.

[93nismo]

i had a thread about godspeed coils to see if i could find some review on them. according to everybody here there the same thing. but i only got liek 1 bad reveiw on godspeed... so im willing to bet there fine. but, ive never had them or driven with them. whatever. check out that godspeed thread i had if you want.

[udon!]

^look at this fucking cool kid here.

awww yeeea

[andmattsayd]

umm... i hope you dont think thats low or anything...

OH....... :duh:

[chrisa]

I love how you think "isis" manufactured those coilovers. A while back a Taiwanese company contacted my friend (who sells autoparts) and offered to manufacture his own brand of coilovers. Any colours he wants, any logo spring rate etc, for a very very reasonable price. I guarantee these cheap ebay coilovers are all made in taiwan in the same place by the same company.
you must not have read enjuku's post. you fail.

[phase2]

I love how you think "isis" manufactured those coilovers. A while back a Taiwanese company contacted my friend (who sells autoparts) and offered to manufacture his own brand of coilovers. Any colours he wants, any logo spring rate etc, for a very very reasonable price. I guarantee these cheap ebay coilovers are all made in taiwan in the same place by the same company.

Megan coilovers are made in Taiwan, Apex street coilover is made in Taiwan, BC coilovers are made in Taiwan, KTS coilovers are made in Taiwan, along with many other good branded coilovers are made in Taiwan.

Bottom line there's nothing wrong with having products made elsewhere as long as the quality control is within tolerance, whether it's made in Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Korea etc. However, it just so happens Taiwan made products are far superior in the suspension area than China.

We tried a China coilover before and it rode worse than stock shock / springs, absolutely no valving taken into making the coilover other than making them "look" like a coilover.

As long as Enjuku said they tested them, I do believe Ken's words has some level of credit since it makes no sense to sell JUNK.

[SilviaAura]

im not rich so i might just try these out wen i get some cash my way

[Enjuku Racing]

All I'm really concerned with is when will ISIS be making s14 coilovers? I don't care about ride height. I'm not f'n gangsta and don't give a damn about VIP. My Avalanche with leather seats is plush enough. LOL. I'm just the guy that want to replace my 269XXX mile suspension with functional parts. I do maybe one SCCA event a year.

That's my rant. Sorry guys. Anyway. Yeah s14 coils would be great enjuku. I'll be one of the buyers

We got a set of S14 coilovers to test a few months ago. We sent back some revisions and i am waiting on the new proto-type to show up. It should be here in a few weeks and going on my S14 for testing.

Hopefully just another month or two before the S14 ones will be here in production.

thanks
Ken

[EnjukuBG]

No comparison.

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1251590465_2_FT4523_p1050270.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w23/GST_Slapnut/DSC03132.jpg
http://gangsta-original.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/img_0399_500x375shkl.JPG


Only people comparing ISIS Basic Coilovers to PBM and etc are you elitist dudes who know whats best for everyone. We're just offering entry level coilovers for those who either don't want to spend 1000+ or can't spend that much money on suspension. You can track them if you want, and daily drive on them to, we're backing them 100%, and if product failure happens for some reason, we'll warranty them.

As Ken stated earlier, these aren't the only coilovers we offer, so if you don't want these, let us know what you want and we'll sell them to you. Thanks for your input, but stop being jerks for no reason.

[lflkajfj12123]

Thanks for your input, but stop being jerks for no reason.

Awwwwwwh okay, we'll stop now.

We're sorry. :o

Didn't want to be a meanie like that.

[ZX88]

lol you think comparing $700 coilovers to $1000 is elitist........


i think this has gotten blown out of porportions they make these so people on a budget can lower there car in a resonably safe manor. people need to stop caring what people are running in there car.

[EnjukuBG]

Awwwwwwh okay, we'll stop now.

We're sorry. :o

Didn't want to be a meanie like that.
Now you're just being cute.

[EnjukuBG]

lol you think comparing $700 coilovers to $1000 is elitist........


i think this has gotten blown out of porportions they make these so people on a budget can lower there car in a resonably safe manor. people need to stop caring what people are running in there car.


Nice ninja Edit sir, but I saw what you said. Things definitely got blown out of proportion. And being elitist is talking crap about a product you have no first hand experience with. But again, thanks for your time.

[lflkajfj12123]

It happens with every "new product" that is introduced to our forum supporting the cheaper enthusiasts. There is a general consensus here that cheaper is not good because it is killing the community.

Don't take it to heart too much.

[gerson408]

half the people on here talking shit about ebay garbage but i bet some of your parts are ordered from ebay. stop hating coils are coils they are all the same its your money buy em if you want em.buying stance coils or pbm doesn't make you a pro.i noticed the people on here with the cleanest cars cant drive worht a shit.

[lflkajfj12123]

No, they're really not all the same. But whatever makes you sleep better at night.

[wh0aitznic0]

half the people on here talking shit about ebay garbage but i bet some of your parts are ordered from ebay. stop hating coils are coils they are all the same its your money buy em if you want em.buying stance coils or pbm doesn't make you a pro.i noticed the people on here with the cleanest cars cant drive worht a shit.

Well if you think about it, most of the cleanest cars on Honda-Tech get towed to shows; most of the cleanest RX-7's spend their lives in garages; and most of the highest powered Supra's are dyno queens.

[redline racer510]

BTW my stances feel remarkably similar to godspeeds the only down side of the godspeeds that I had(Hyper RS lol) were that they would only lower the car about 3 inches. Oh and i forgot the godspeeds started sagging in like 2 months while the stance I have had for 8months still feel like the day I bought them.

[Bubbles]

Yeah, they were pretty similar except for the most important of things.

[lflkajfj12123]

Lol, this guy proved the case in point all by himself.

Yeah, they were pretty similar except for the most important of things.

QFT

[sterlinge]

i never tried any isis coilovers but my friend bought the isis version 2 manifold and i would say for other people not to buy it unless you dont mind fixing the holes on the head flange it was drilled off center and 2 of the bolts will not go in without taking the manifold off to fix it this is after fixing 1 other hole so three hole are off center ...my friend never called or said anything to enjuku becuase he thinks they wont do a partial refund for the extra work it needs to fit the right way for 200 dollars the part should be bolt on....:rl:

[SoSideways]

i never tried any isis coilovers but my friend bought the isis version 2 manifold and i would say for other people not to buy it unless you dont mind fixing the holes on the head flange it was drilled off center and 2 of the bolts will not go in without taking the manifold off to fix it this is after fixing 1 other hole so three hole are off center ...my friend never called or said anything to enjuku becuase he thinks they wont do a partial refund for the extra work it needs to fit the right way for 200 dollars the part should be bolt on....:rl:

If your friend didn't call Enjuku to tell them about it, how would he know?

Your friend is retarded.

[sterlinge]

ya i told him to call like i said he doesnt think they will do anything for him its been about a month since he got it im just letting people know, if enjuku really tests their product they would know that the manifold will not bolt on out of the box.....if anyone else has bought one im sure they know about the problems.

[SoSideways]

ya i told him to call like i said he doesnt think they will do anything for him its been about a month since he got it im just letting people know, if enjuku really tests their product they would know that the manifold will not bolt on out of the box.....if anyone else has bought one im sure they know about the problems.

That or your friend got a defective one.

Which is why he should have called it in.

I highly doubt Ken would sell shitty products that don't fit to people and then turn his back on them.

[sterlinge]

maybe your right, i tell him to try and call and see what ken says if he doesnt sell shitty products that dont fit he will probly do a partial refund....haha i would think that the 2nd version of their manifold would fit better than the first.....

[usajdm]

Yet another thread turned into a bandwagon-bashing, by the Zilvia Clones, showing the extreme femininity that now rules this site and scene.

[lflkajfj12123]

^ You sound like a tool.

[sterlinge]

me or usajdm? im not saying their coilovers are bad i have never tried them so i have nothing to say about them, im just saying that my friend was not the happiest with the quality control on the manifold he bought.

[wh0aitznic0]

^ You sound like a tool.

^ You sound like a tool.

[wgJoY]

This thread has run its course I think.

[kalypso123]

Did ISIS ever make a R&D thread like MAX USA?

link please :D

[lflkajfj12123]

^ You sound like a tool.

You also sound like a tool.

[Touge Noob S13]

half the people on here talking shit about ebay garbage but i bet some of your parts are ordered from ebay. stop hating coils are coils they are all the same its your money buy em if you want em.buying stance coils or pbm doesn't make you a pro.i noticed the people on here with the cleanest cars cant drive worht a shit.

I noticed people here with beat up cars cant drive for shit either, thats why their cars are beat up. :rolleyes:

[Csomme]

Hell. I guess after hearing what Ken had to say about them then there's absolutely nothing to complain about. If he has a warranty and backs them, then I'm sure that they will either be fine, or they won't. And either way Ken has you covered.

From the experience of those around me who have dealt personally with ISIS, and with Ken, he does everything to ensure that you are satisfied with him, his company, and his products.

Sorry for ever questioning the product bud.

[shanester240]

so i just got some of these isis coilovers about a week ago and so far there great they go super low to were i can put my muffler on the ground if i want and the super stiff if tuned right and so far awsome with drifts no body roll whats so ever. the back end slids out on wet roads realy esy now if i go to fast or gas it. but so far there great feel realy strong:fruit:

[kalypso123]

MAX USA R&D thread... anyone?

[smelly240]

BTW my stances feel remarkably similar to godspeeds the only down side of the godspeeds that I had(Hyper RS lol) were that they would only lower the car about 3 inches. Oh and i forgot the godspeeds started sagging in like 2 months while the stance I have had for 8months still feel like the day I bought them.

i call BS... I rode in 2 cars with godspeed and they were awful.

Nothing like stance (and I dont have stance so my opinoin is not compromised by buyers remorse)

[grantboss]

"occasional track use" ya, more like "don't use these on the track or your car will blow up.

Anyway, it seems that people judge coilovers by how low they can drop the car rather than how GOOD the actual coilover is... Amirite?

Is that any different then people saying stiff=good ride quality? no, it's not.

[nathanong87]

these look awesome!!!! i'm going to get a set now

[[email protected]]

I'm not standing up for ISIS coilovers/Godspeed coilovers/Ebay coilovers.

but i would like to see the percentage of these coilovers ACTUALLY FAILING/breaking.

I know all you guy's preach to high heaven about "OMG STANCE,PBM,TEIN,TANABE,YASHIO FACTORY,etc etc"

and so forth but i would REALLY like to see some sort of compairison test's against these $1200 + coilovers Vs. Ebay $500 coilovers.

and i would like to see someone with the "jerkoff baller status coilovers" give a average 240sx owner the keys to there car, then have the same person the "pos ebay coilovers" and see if they know the differance between them.

i would strongly believe NOT many people will be able to tell the differance except maybe how stiff/soft they are.

personally i don't really care. It just seems like to many parking lot warriors pray on Stance/etc. and shit about ebay shit yet they don't have the driving skill to make the money differance worth it. fuck most people buy them just to get "MOAR LOW"

just another reason why i'm sick of the S-chassis scene.
This is so true. Everyone is like omg those are gonna fail and break/blow up etc. Um where is all the evidence? Now I will admit that a few people would notice the difference between a high quality set of coilovers and the cheaper 'ebay' stuff. But I'd be willing to lay money down and bet that for 95% of the people buying coilovers for their 240 it ends up being more about the brand name than the quality. It's like buying Guess jeans just to have Guess jeans. Most guys that put coils on their car just want to slam it. And ebay coils will work just fine for that.

[drftwerks]

these look awesome!!!! i'm going to get a set now

in reality.thats all that counts.
seriously.

[JurisMyDiction]

think i'll be picking up a set at the end pf the month.

[zeitgeist]

GOT DAMN 5 PAGES and 1 (maybe 2 idk)REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I just want to know if they give a comfortable ride or not. I just want some coils for my daily so i can slam that shit and look good. holy fuck
I guarentee half you motherfuckers posting shit in this thread dont track your shit anyways

[ILoveMyRHS13]

GOT DAMN 5 PAGES and 1 (maybe 2 idk)REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I just want to know if they give a comfortable ride or not. I just want some coils for my daily so i can slam that shit and look good. holy fuck
I guarentee half you motherfuckers posting shit in this thread dont track your shit anyways
You and everyone else wants a comfortable ride. You won't get that with coilovers, end of story.

[BustedS13]

GOT DAMN 5 PAGES and 1 (maybe 2 idk)REVIEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously I just want to know if they give a comfortable ride or not. I just want some coils for my daily so i can slam that shit and look good. holy fuck
I guarentee half you motherfuckers posting shit in this thread dont track your shit anyways
motion to ban this sucka

[Z33dori]

You and everyone else wants a comfortable ride. You won't get that with coilovers, end of story.

not true my buddy has some Tein coils and they ride pretty smooth, he has a lil more slack than i would prefer to have on my coils. But his car actually rides pretty nice. And i've driven on both Stance GR+ and GR+ Pro, and i would have to say they are both pretty comfortable. Obviously the GR+ are a lil softer. That being that i believe Stance's new Luxury coilovers are prolly really nice. IDK maybe i can talk my mom into finally putting coils on here Z, get her to get those and find out.

[Fatboy Garage]

ISIS Coil-over is different Than Godspeed Coil-over
(http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm?pid=4&Prod_Class=50&Prod_Type=51)

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

You can only re-invent the wheel so many times....it's a metaphor

As mentioned before a lot of brands, not so many manufacturing facilities. deductive reasoning comes into play.

what are these "VARIANTS" of?
Welcome Windflowers Racing Parts ¡G¡G Product /product/product_type.php (http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm?pid=4&Prod_Class=50&Prod_Type=51)

Welcome Windflowers Racing Parts ¡G¡G Product /product/product.php (http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm?pid=2)

R&D, Quality Control is Key, I'll take results over any warranty. If you have not tried/Applied a product how can you be credible in any opinion about it?

I just installed some GodSpeed RS Type coilovers to a 98 Kouki, next comes a full review
-pictures
-video
-write-up

[RKT_Scientist]

@Ken (enjuku), why do you keep misleading people about only being a reseller of products from some company called *ISIS??? Enjuku is *ISIS period. This is what I found on whois: (It's unfortunate that the *ISIS website has no information whatsoever on who they are or where they are located or how to contact them)

Domain Name: ISISPERFORMANCE.COM

Registrant:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399

Creation Date: 20-Oct-2008
Expiration Date: 20-Oct-2010

Domain servers in listed order:
ns4.everydns.net
ns3.everydns.net
ns2.everydns.net
ns1.everydns.net


Administrative Contact:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399

Technical Contact:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399

Billing Contact:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

oh i see now

[Odysseus]

Interesting....

[projekt_s13]

Dun dun dunnnnn.

[DreamN]

Interesting...


Subscribed.

[90hatchie]

http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-OhSnap.jpg

[lightsource]

This thread has run its course I think.

Man...

Close this fucking thread, it's turned into a shit talking abomination:lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd::lockd:

[ayuaddict]

ISIS Coil-over is different Than Godspeed Coil-over
(http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm?pid=4&Prod_Class=50&Prod_Type=51)

whats all that shit?

they dont list prices as far as i can see.

are those another cheap ass coilover company?

i noticed they have ae86 coilovers, i would love to get some cheap shit to replace my blown ass everything on my beater.

[iwannaslyde]

Administrative Contact:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399

sooo Ken = Jon Kolb???? huh?

[OBEEWON]

Wow, I would like to see an answer for that.

[AE_Racer]

In for shit storm. Ken where are youu?

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Damn, I was starting to like Enjuku. :/

[Pandapants]

Peter Parker
IS
Spider Man

[JRex]

This thread just took a sharp left turn. haha

[NINJASPY]

Its not like you guys did not know that from the start when enjuku started backing isis up.
1 place sells isis=enjuku
1 place supports isis=enjuku
1 place speaks with isis about rnd=enjuku
They look like ebay parts, god speed parts, isis parts, same shit, different colors.
Isis looks marginally better sometimes, but that could be that extra .50 cents spent on paint.
He backs up the product, and the price reflects that. junk product+ 20% higher price= warranty... even if you have 10% fail rate, you still have 10% margin.

The best part is... Is when he refers to "isis" in 3rd person as another company, an actual entity, instead of the factory in china....

[ILoveMyRHS13]

They're fucking re-branded Motoria stuff. So is Godspeed, thats why they look alike. Godspeed doesn't even make their own shit.

[AE_Racer]

For the record I found another place online that sells isis when I was trying to get an exhaust

[OBEEWON]

I demand answers. I demand satisfaction.

Even though everyone knew this before...

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Do ANY of you know where all the parts you have are manufactured, and what, who elses parts this manufacture makes? and why they "look like" blah blah. and what you can identify from "color" on parts.

[iwannaslyde]

Do ANY of you know where all the parts you have are manufactured, and what, who elses parts this manufacture makes? and why they "look like" blah blah. and what you can identify from "color" on parts.

:ughug: the color duhhhh!

[JurisMyDiction]

This thread is f'ed up like a soup salad sandwich. Sticking around for sh*tstorm

[g-via]

[quote=RKT_Scientist;3255797
Domain Name: ISISPERFORMANCE.COM

Registrant:
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC
Jon Kolb ([email protected])
317 E. Washington St. Unit G
Minneola
Florida,34715
US
Tel. +1.3522418399
[/quote]

I see no problem with this.

Only if Ken's real name is Jon

[Grenade180sx]

They're fucking re-branded Motoria stuff. So is Godspeed, thats why they look alike. Godspeed doesn't even make their own shit.


you guys freak out like dmax PBM and all the other coils are made from the dirt in japan...

EVERY SINGLE coil over/turbo product/anything is MADE in taiwan/china/korea EXCLUDING US brands and hell even some of those source parts from overseas..


PBM coils i have seen in a catalog, along with Dmax colors are different and quality control are more extreme.. thats all folks

stop beating your chest's already buy what you want and leave it at that.

[OBEEWON]

Nothing wrong with buying Isis or whatever. It's just not cool for someone to front like a product is something its not.

[Touge Noob S13]

you guys freak out like dmax PBM and all the other coils are made from the dirt in japan...

EVERY SINGLE coil over/turbo product/anything is MADE in taiwan/china/korea EXCLUDING US brands and hell even some of those source parts from overseas..


PBM coils i have seen in a catalog, along with Dmax colors are different and quality control are more extreme.. thats all folks

stop beating your chest's already buy what you want and leave it at that.


Thats why PBM and Dmax are good and godspeed is junk.

[udon!]

listen up you fucks.

it does not matter where its made, it matters how it designed. high dollar coilovers are DESIGNED IN JAPAN TO STRICT GOVERNMENT STANDARDS. they are made in taiwan/china because THE COST OF PRODUCTION (labor) is cheaper, but the design STILL complys with strict japanese government standards.

[bornslippy73]

I was hoping to read at least some decent reviews and feedback on ISIS coilovers. I guess not.

[zeitgeist]

i doubt we will. Ive just accepted that im only going to hear about people crying that enjuku is trying to make a profit

[93nismo]

I was hoping to read at least some decent reviews and feedback on ISIS coilovers. I guess not.

as was i. i wasent really expection much help tho. if there what all these "pros" say they are then there just like goodspeed. there were a few good reviews about them in a thread i had. i think there were 3 or 4 acctual reviews maybe?

i doubt we will. Ive just accepted that im only going to hear about people crying that enjuku is trying to make a profit


maybe, MAYBE we will get lucky aand get a good review. but even then, the threads not eally good unless theres multiple reviews anways.

[g-via]

wtf

of course enjuku is trying to make a profit, he runs a business.

ppl are upset because it looks like he was a vendor of his own product, thus having a biased prespective when marketing it.

I see no problem in being the vendor of your own product, ken has never made any false accusations that isis is superior to another brand that would obviously be biased. most reviews of isis are from actual ppl who bought/used the product.

enjuku has always doled out competitve deals/specials to zilvia members, ran discount codes, etc. when ppl start jumping to conclusions right away, they are biting the hand that feeds them.

[Munki]

listen up you fucks.

it does not matter where its made, it matters how it designed. high dollar coilovers are DESIGNED IN JAPAN TO STRICT GOVERNMENT STANDARDS. they are made in taiwan/china because THE COST OF PRODUCTION (labor) is cheaper, but the design STILL complys with strict japanese government standards.

The reason why real Japanese brands are better is because of what they use to make their parts. ISIS, godspeed and all the other cheap shit is made cheap. Cheap materials is what makes parts shitty.

[ayuaddict]

oh rearry?

[Martino]

Silence!

I Keel you.

[WISH ONE]

you guys freak out like dmax PBM and all the other coils are made from the dirt in japan...

EVERY SINGLE coil over/turbo product/anything is MADE in taiwan/china/korea EXCLUDING US brands and hell even some of those source parts from overseas..


PBM coils i have seen in a catalog, along with Dmax colors are different and quality control are more extreme.. thats all folks

stop beating your chest's already buy what you want and leave it at that.


DONE!!

Thank you sir.

[NeedCAforS13]

listen up you fucks.

it does not matter where its made, it matters how it designed. high dollar coilovers are DESIGNED IN JAPAN TO STRICT GOVERNMENT STANDARDS. they are made in taiwan/china because THE COST OF PRODUCTION (labor) is cheaper, but the design STILL complys with strict japanese government standards.

You're a 17 year old dumbass kid who (in my opinion) doesn't know a whole lot about cars. Don't call everyone else a fuck. You were JUST saying that 2 way LSDs never need to be rebuilt...

ive heard that 2-way lsd's pretty much dont ever need a rebuild unless a meteor hits it

What makes you an expert on coilovers all of a sudden? Coilovers designed to meet government standards? What the fuck are you babbling about?

How about you don't open your mouth unless you KNOW what you're talking about. Don't just regurgitate some shit you heard from someone else.

[Project "Rojo" s13]

Wow all this fussin over coilovers, this thread needs to be locked. talk about beating a dead horse.

[CNDC]

You got two choices by cheap coilovers with questionable valving or save up and buy decent coilovers with proper R & D with good valving so your suspension absorbs bumps instead of skipping right over them. your choice.

However, if your not racing and doing this for looks just get cheap coilovers and save your money for something that really matters in life.

[Enjuku Racing]

sooo Ken = Jon Kolb???? huh?

You guys really make me laugh some times. No, my name is not Jon. Yes, we own and maintain the ISIS Website. They dont have one and asked us to put one up for them in the US. Pretty simple. We are managing everything in the US for them, hence the reason we can warranty any issues instantly. you guys dig way to much and are seeing things that arent even there.

If you dont like the product dont buy it... if you do then buy it.

oh yea.. you might want to do a Whois look up on some of your other favorite brands.. you will see things that dont make sense because you dont know the situation. I also own about 200 other domain names... what does that tell you?

Someone please lock this thread.. I dont think I have seen a thread go this long for the same thing around in circles.

Ken

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Thats why PBM and Dmax are good and godspeed is junk.
it's like this man...
honda=Acura, Lexus=Toyota, Fender=Squire, Eastwood=Harbor Freight, type of relationship.
TEIN=
GODSPEED =
DMAX=
ISIS =
this would be cool puzzle to see in a magazine or something haha.
ETC.=

some ONE makes them in taiwan . And though yes some differences occur, like color, maybe shape, but quality hardly. It's all, so YOU can get a special feeling inside when YOU look and like one, and then YOU buy it.

If I make a special coilover just for YOU, whill you buy it from me? :D


Peter Parker
IS
Spider Man

haha. good analogy.

[Touge Noob S13]

it's like this man...
honda=Acura, Lexus=Toyota, Fender=Squire, Eastwood=Harbor Freight, type of relationship.
TEIN=
GODSPEED =
DMAX=
ISIS =
this would be cool puzzle to see in a magazine or something haha.
ETC.=

some ONE makes them in taiwan . And though yes some differences occur, like color, maybe shape, but quality hardly. It's all, so YOU can get a special feeling inside when YOU look and like one, and then YOU buy it.

If I make a special coilover just for YOU, whill you buy it from me? :D


Riley stated that the quality control was better on the brand names, why are you telling me this? Does Godspeed not allow you to disagree with one of their sponsored drivers? Are they threatening to stop giving money to Adams if you dont say positive things about their products?

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Riley stated that the quality control was better on the brand names
:goyou:


why are you telling me this?

because trying to help you understand...
so what coilovers to you stand by? why?

Does Godspeed not allow you to disagree with one of their sponsored drivers? Are they threatening to stop giving money to Adams if you dont say positive things about their products?
i don't get it?
im not defending any one brand...you pick your own, please do real research before trying to sound like an authority.
And I do not represent Adams, Godspeed. Again, you FAIL at the bigger picture kid.
offer still stands for me to make you some custome coilovers :)
quality gaurantee ...

[udon!]

You're a 17 year old dumbass kid who (in my opinion) doesn't know a whole lot about cars. Don't call everyone else a fuck. You were JUST saying that 2 way LSDs never need to be rebuilt...



What makes you an expert on coilovers all of a sudden? Coilovers designed to meet government standards? What the fuck are you babbling about?

How about you don't open your mouth unless you KNOW what you're talking about. Don't just regurgitate some shit you heard from someone else.

i know what im talking about you cunt.

hen was talking about daying on a two-way it wont need a rebuilt for a LONG time. of fucking course it will need to be rebuilt if it sees heavy track use.

fuck you sir, fuck you.

America surprises me more and more every day.

[Touge Noob S13]

PBM coils i have seen in a catalog, along with Dmax colors are different and quality control are more extreme.. thats all folks


:goyou:

because trying to help you understand...
so what coilovers to you stand by? why?
i don't get it?
im not defending any one brand...you pick your own, please do real research before trying to sound like an authority.
And I do not represent Adams, Godspeed. Again, you FAIL at the bigger picture kid.
offer still stands for me to
Read Rileys statement idiot. So who is right? You for saying that the knock offs are as good as the brand names or Riley for saying that the brand names have higher quality control? So you aren't defending Godspeed? Why is it that you inland empire people defend Godspeed so much? Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys. So you want to give me coilovers, how about you paypal me $1000 so I can have enough to buy some Zeals.:)

[yarou]

shit just got fucking REAL.

this is Yuta BTW

[udon!]

Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys.
Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys.
Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys.
:Owned:........................................... ............

[urmyhero4now]

I'm REALLY surprised mods let this thread go this far.

Pathetic.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Oh wow, so ugly, yet her breasts are ginormous.

Only Asian women. :tweak:

[cooltomato]

Oh wow, so ugly, yet her breasts are ginormous.

Only Asian women. :tweak:
i think she is ok, i mean u would nto hit that?

http://www.isisperformance.com/content/products/50/thumb.jpg

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I would not hit that.

I find Asian women unattractive. :hide:

[SHARKERIOcoupe]

Read Rileys statement idiot. So who is right? You for saying that the knock offs are as good as the brand names or Riley for saying that the brand names have higher quality control? So you aren't defending Godspeed? Why is it that you inland empire people defend Godspeed so much? Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys. So you want to give me coilovers, how about you paypal me $1000 so I can have enough to buy some Zeals.:)

woah, hahahah simmer down buddy. :bash:
they are all brand names, you understand right. knock off because they all look like coilovers...it functions a certain way and fits the car a certain way, so they'll look pretty much the same.
...where did this thread turn into an attack on Godspeed and Adams? what do you have against???

never mind dude. have it your way BK.

make you're own money yo

lates

[cooltomato]

That just looks so unnatural... borderline ridiculous. With that said, I'd still hit it

you got me there for a sec hahahahha

well i hope this answers ur question as to how low to go b/c this girl has them on her s13

http://www.speedmotiv.com/posts/873/images/2009071100030-44.jpg
Jessica is selling her 240sx Hatchback - speedMotiv (http://www.speedmotiv.com/2009/10/16/view-rambling/jessica-is-selling-her-240sx-hatchback)

[Grenade180sx]

Read Rileys statement idiot. So who is right? You for saying that the knock offs are as good as the brand names or Riley for saying that the brand names have higher quality control? So you aren't defending Godspeed? Why is it that you inland empire people defend Godspeed so much? Oh yeah because they sponsor Adams and without Adams there is no drifting for you guys. So you want to give me coilovers, how about you paypal me $1000 so I can have enough to buy some Zeals.:)


whats with all these shots at adams? yes the sponsor and provide stuff to drivers.. NO no one is holding a gun to anyones head to use it or buy it.

im real tired of all this complainng about shit. if everyone did less complaining and more buying of parts/brands you like then there wouldn't need to be a discussion regarding it.


track or not ill keep drifting.

ive had stance,PBM, CS's, Kbee, and now godspeed each ive had my dislikes with but does mean its a bad product? no. stop beating a dead horse already frank jesus. <3 AND DONT FORGET TO SAY HELLO TO ME DAMN IT! :sadwavey:

[WangonwWarrior]

so who in this thread besides Enjuku has actually ran these coils? Honest question, thx

[iwannaslyde]

You guys really make me laugh some times. No, my name is not Jon. Yes, we own and maintain the ISIS Website. They dont have one and asked us to put one up for them in the US. Pretty simple. We are managing everything in the US for them, hence the reason we can warranty any issues instantly. you guys dig way to much and are seeing things that arent even there.

If you dont like the product dont buy it... if you do then buy it.

oh yea.. you might want to do a Whois look up on some of your other favorite brands.. you will see things that dont make sense because you dont know the situation. I also own about 200 other domain names... what does that tell you?

Someone please lock this thread.. I dont think I have seen a thread go this long for the same thing around in circles.

Ken

That settles it for me..regardless of WHERE shyt is made, it's HOW it's made that counts and all the R&D these guys have done should be more than enough... I'll be ordering a good amount of stuff from u guys in a few weeks.

[cooltomato]

i feel like i am going to have to buy this and give u guys a write up....no one seems to be up for the challenge

[kikcaffine]

Why the fuck does it matter the brand name? I have an Isis turbo on my car and love it. It makes the same fucking 250whp that your t28 will. Difference is mine has a 1 year warranty if anything happens to it. I dont see even owning the car for that long so its not an issue to me.

[QuickSpoolSR]

i got gr+ pros for 1070 shipped brand new like 2 days ago

[Csomme]

Like I've said multiple times, if Ken is willing to put the Enjuku name behind it, I can trust him. He's provided me will excellent products and customer service for years, as well as some of you guys that are doing the badmouthing.

Can someone please close this thread already, it's a cirle of shit.

[sincity_sil80]

locked!!!!

[SimpleSexy180]

What the hell has been going on with this forum?

Buy whichever brand you want. Make your car look decent and drive it. Everybody thinks 240's will explode using these coilovers. Do you guys feel you need to copy what everybody else says to feel apart of the forum? This is ridiculous...

[ILoveMyRHS13]

I'm confused as to why being made in Taiwan automatically makes it bad. It's all about research and development. My coilovers were made in Taiwan and they're fucking great, no doubt about it.

[theslows13]

if you follow the windflowers youll see parts that OH SO resemble parts made by some of your favorite companies, made in different colors.... sometimes they dont even change the colors... do the math, im not gonna spell it out for you.

that being said, learning that theres a high chance that most of my suspension from a very reputable drift shop on here is produced by the same company that makes godspeed/isis... is disappointing yet intriguing as my parts are beefy as hell, and the godspeed crap looks sooooo puny.

i do like that this company now shows them MAKING things like RUCAS in house, but all the "straight" type of arms (tension/toe *excluding the newest ones*/traction) still look the same...

then again, i could be 100% wrong... but i dont care either way, i LOVE my current setup

[Grenade180sx]

http://http://www.windflowers.com.tw/upload_files/test/default_1214470952_1.jpg (http://www.windflowers.com.tw/upload_files/test/default_1214470952_1.jpg)http://www.windflowers.com.tw/upload_files/test/default_1214470952_1.jpg


look familiar?

http://www.windflowers.com.tw/index.htm?pid=4&Prod_Class=50&Prod_Type=51


check for yourselves :D

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Exactly what we're saying.

It seems as though Windflower is a HUGE supplier of suspension parts.

HOWEVER.

MAX makes their RUCAs in house. They have videos to prove it.

[keistyle]

Taiwan Taiwan Taiwan, China China China, China, Taiwan China china.



in before lock.
:snoop:

[Csomme]

Pull out your Parts Shop Max coilover and compare it to that. There are some differences guys. Also, many companies do get their supplies from the same manufactuer, however, differences in valving, spring rates and rebound may differ.


And stop all that Tawain sucks Bullshit. It is a completely different place than China. I've had many people tell me it's like a old school Japan. I'd take the advice over well informed friends that have been in country over some 17 year old kid at his desk eating PBJ and yanking it.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Pull out your Parts Shop Max coilover and compare it to that. There are some differences guys. Also, many companies do get their supplies from the same manufactuer, however, differences in valving, spring rates and rebound may differ.
Indeed, the coilover pictured above is not identical to my PSM coils. However, the one pictured is clearly not for an S13. :ddog:

[Csomme]

Considering that PSM has a huge task of actually developing their stuff AND their customers get a big say in the stuff they produce, I'm gonna go ahead and say that PSM's are one of a kind. (Don't believe me? Go on their forum)

And this is getting waaaaaaaaayyyyy out of hand. lol

[theslows13]

youre preaching to the wrong crowd homie. i own the ENTIRE gen 1 catalog of suspension/steering. i LOVE it. but some of their arms look scary close to windflower.

but they are TIGHT on the development and their fabrication is beyond comparison.

im in NO way bashing PSM. i love their shit to death. my car is the reason all the locals got PSM parts in the first place.

[JRex]

PBM knows their shit...

Straight from DAN at PBM.

"Like many JDM brands, these are made in Taiwan to strict Japanese Spec.
I hope everyone knows the difference between Taiwan and China, and does not place them in the same catergory.
Taiwan is like an old school Japan, with more respect to quality control parameters than most. They also use Japan parts where necessary like the pillowball. This is how we get a supurb product at a nice price with zero parts failure. Other parts we make in the USA and elsewhere, each part is different depending on where MAX can achieve the best cost and quality to pass value directly to the customer."

[JurisMyDiction]

i feel like i am going to have to buy this and give u guys a write up....no one seems to be up for the challenge


ordered mine. can't wait for them to come! stand by for pics. personally i'm glad to be someone who doesn't really mind everyone else's opinions. i mean, this thread is PAGES long and not ONE comment (well there was actually ONE, which was positive by the way) has had any substance as far as real experience.

when i had my Mazdaspeed protege i used to run tokico illumina shocks on ground control coilovers. they looked great, never bounced, and i ran CIRCLES around other guys (with hardcore expensive coilovers) in my car with a sub $900 setup.

so, in about a week and a half or two weeks, i will post pictures and write an honest writeup about the isis coilovers. then nobody has to give their opinion about what they "think"

the guys an enjuku were extremely nice when processing my order, and they warranty these coils for life... for the price, i don't see why more people HAVEN'T tried them.

wish me luck everyone! i'm sure they will work out great.

[ayuaddict]

WTF is windflowers.

they dont have any prices or a way to purchase!

[bl3ujay07]

this thread should be closed, or at least limited to people who HAS ACTUALLY tried them and are giving FEEDBACK!!! Enough with the pbm name brand band wagon shit. If you havnt tried them yet, how the hell are you suppose to know how well they function??? Like ken and others have said, it aint suppose to be all superior and shit. If you want some nice expensive coilovers, they can sell it to you too.

[ChicagoS14]

I am going to be picking up a set very soon for my daily driven / tracked S13. For the price and considering they should be streetable as well as trackable I will see how they really are. I dont have much to blow on this car seeing as I have multiple other projects so yeah.

[Kandyman619]

Just so every1 know PSM does buy from Windflowers. Here's the link.
Windflowers Information Company : US Import Shipment Data - www.iEaling.com (http://www.iealing.com/shipper/windflowers-information-company.html)

[NeedCAforS13]

i know what im talking about you cunt.

blah blah blah

There's no government regulations on coilovers you dip shit. Now fuck off and go figure out what frame rails are for other than lifting a car...

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/297481-small-questions-thread-use-insted-making-new-threads-14.html#post3259538

You can delete all the stupid questions you've asked, it doesn't make you any smarter.

[iwannaslyde]

^your Smurf14 was sexy btw

[Pandapants]

Did this thread really go from saying:

Isis sucks
Enjuku lies
Godspeed sucks
Taiwan sucks
so
PSM sucks?

What the hell is the point of this thread?

[iwannaslyde]

there is no point. can't u see by now? its a conspiracy.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Did this thread really go from saying:

Isis sucks
Enjuku lies
Godspeed sucks
Taiwan sucks
so
PSM sucks?

What the hell is the point of this thread?
Some people think that way. Like I said before, just because it's made in Taiwan doesn't mean it's crappy. Windflower makes SUPERB stuff, at least for what they sell to MAX.

[JurisMyDiction]

mine should be here by tomorrow or wed!

[Fatboy Garage]

http://zilvia.net/f/group-buys/268275-godspeed-suspension-gb-page-coil-lca-camber-toe-tension-sway-more-4.html#post3273842

[ILoveMyRHS13]

http://zilvia.net/f/group-buys/268275-godspeed-suspension-gb-page-coil-lca-camber-toe-tension-sway-more-4.html#post3273842
Great advertising. :cj:

[udon!]

Just so every1 know PSM does buy from Windflowers. Here's the link.
Windflowers Information Company : US Import Shipment Data - www.iEaling.com (http://www.iealing.com/shipper/windflowers-information-company.html)


taken directly from thier website.

needcafors13 or whatever your name is, look at the end of the sentence it reads STRICT JAPANESE SPEC.

Like many JDM brands, these are made in Taiwan to strict Japanese Spec.
I hope everyone knows the difference between Taiwan and China, and does not place them in the same catergory.
Taiwan is like an old school Japan, with more respect to quality control parameters than most. They also use Japan parts where necessary like the pillowball. This is how we get a supurb product at a nice price with zero parts failure. Other parts we make in the USA and elsewhere, each part is different depending on where MAX can achieve the best cost and quality to pass value directly to the customer.

[NeedCAforS13]

needcafors13 or whatever your name is, look at the end of the sentence it reads STRICT JAPANESE SPEC.

OK? Where does it say the Japanese government regulates coilovers? Oh, right. It doesn't.

They're being built to specifications outlined by Japanese companies... Shut up you little tool. Stop posting garbage.

**Do you believe everything you read on people's websites?

[soreballz]

**Do you believe everything you read on people's websites?
Of course he does; he's an idiot.

[ayuaddict]

Would somebody mind telling me where i can purchase Windflowers products?

[Enjuku Racing]

You cant. From what i see they are a manufacturering company over seas and do not sell retail to anyone.

[JurisMyDiction]

update: received coilovers today (ok so i wasn't there to sign for them but i'm picking them up at 9 a.m. tomorrow) will be installed by tomorrow afternoon. expect pics here along with a short writeup in a separate thread.

thanks for everything to everyone over at enjuku, especially the quick shipping.

[udon!]

Of course he does; he's an idiot.

OK? Where does it say the Japanese government regulates coilovers? Oh, right. It doesn't.

They're being built to specifications outlined by Japanese companies... Shut up you little tool. Stop posting garbage.

**Do you believe everything you read on people's websites?

you guys are too old for this.

[OBEEWON]

That kid is only 17.

[Deviousjet]

Allright I've been watching everyone bitch in this thread why don't we just wait for jurismydiction to let us know what he thinks about him. Jurismydiction can you please post pics up of the suspension and how you personally like it. I am trying to decide between these and some megans.

[JurisMyDiction]

pics will be up in form of camera phone tonight, and real camera tomorrow. so far i mist say the ride comfort has exceeded my expectations and yet the back end breaks cleanly and smoothly. i have plenty of other issues to take care of with this car but the coilovers really made me fall in love with the car all over again. the fronts slam very nicely, the rears i have them up about .5 of an inch, gonna lower them more (possibly remove the perches being that im' on 15 inch steelies right now). i don't know what everyone was fussing about, the quality of the coilovers out of the box was excellent. thread protectors, good paint, caps all in the right place. for the price, to get a coilover with an adjustable camber plate and a really good ride high adjustment that feel as good as these isis, PLUS with warranty like it is, i say they absolutely cannot be beat. drove a friends car with megans and i'm more impressed with the isis...

this is just my opinion, so take it how you will, but i recommend them as an entry level coilover/dd coilover for sure.

my favorite part about them is that the mounts themselves are adjustable independant of the shock, so you can slam them and still get the full amount of damper travel.

mind all of you, i have not yet aligned them or adjusted the dampening, so after all of this is done, i would imagine i will be even more pleased with them. i'll keep everyone posted, and once i have pics, i'll post them up here and in a new thread!

[lazysk8er2]

dmy guess these are like d2's or ksport same thang

[zeitgeist]

after hearing this review i expect these to be completly different from ksports as they are no way in hell comfortable for dd.
Thank you so much Jurisdiction for the review. Finally some info worth reading. Ill most likely be buying these coilovers also

[JurisMyDiction]

after hearing this review i expect these to be completly different from ksports as they are no way in hell comfortable for dd.
Thank you so much Jurisdiction for the review. Finally some info worth reading. Ill most likely be buying these coilovers also

not a problem. looks liek they've settled a bit since yesterday, i'm not going to take pictures until i fully lower the back though hehe.

[sincity_sil80]

lol this thread is still going?? well atleast somebody finally posted a review.

[ChicagoS14]

I will be posting a review soon. I ordered a set so hopefully it will be here soon.

[D.Adams]

pics will be up in form of camera phone tonight, and real camera tomorrow. so far i mist say the ride comfort has exceeded my expectations and yet the back end breaks cleanly and smoothly. i have plenty of other issues to take care of with this car but the coilovers really made me fall in love with the car all over again. the fronts slam very nicely, the rears i have them up about .5 of an inch, gonna lower them more (possibly remove the perches being that im' on 15 inch steelies right now). i don't know what everyone was fussing about, the quality of the coilovers out of the box was excellent. thread protectors, good paint, caps all in the right place. for the price, to get a coilover with an adjustable camber plate and a really good ride high adjustment that feel as good as these isis, PLUS with warranty like it is, i say they absolutely cannot be beat. drove a friends car with megans and i'm more impressed with the isis...

this is just my opinion, so take it how you will, but i recommend them as an entry level coilover/dd coilover for sure.

my favorite part about them is that the mounts themselves are adjustable independant of the shock, so you can slam them and still get the full amount of damper travel.

mind all of you, i have not yet aligned them or adjusted the dampening, so after all of this is done, i would imagine i will be even more pleased with them. i'll keep everyone posted, and once i have pics, i'll post them up here and in a new thread!



can i get a full write up with ride height pics i have PBM's on my currant 240 but thats going up on jack stands when my taxe's get here. Im going to buy a stock 240 hatch for my D/D and wouldnt mind throwing these on there.

thanks

[JurisMyDiction]

absolutely, TOMORROW i'm dropping the back all the way and i'll take some decent pics. remember the motor's blown so i've only driven on them for a first ride. they haven't been adjusted or anything but you'll see the lowest ride height "WITHOUT PRE-COMPRESSING THE SHOCK" which these coils have the ability to do. so essentially they go very low in the front. in the back they have a limit but it's still not bad.

[Prove It]

Alrighty, so after 2 weeks of waiting I finally got my coilovers from ISIS aka Enjuku Racing. There has been alot of hate or alot of love for this company, and I came in hearing both the pros and cons, but i decided to give ISIS a try and see how there products actually were. Before we get to the pics, lets just say WOW, coming from springs to coilovers was the best thing i have ever done, I recommend any one who is still on springs to convert. The big topic is people have springs because of the fact that coilovers are so expensive, well that was the case for me, as is alot of people. Save up a little more and get yourself a set of these. Anyways, iv'e ridden in alot of 240's with decent coilover setups from Megan Racing to Ksport. Those both being 800+ coilovers, i found the ISIS coilovers just as equal if not better. Now if your looking for your coilovers to go "Hella" low then these are probably not for you, but on 17's you will have no wheel gap. I have stock 15's and have very little gap even though they are Maxed Out and my tires are meaty as fukkk. If I wanted to i could have taken a collar out and gone lower, but for me i don't want to hear my tires rub every turn or slide. As for Sliding, they were awesome. Very little body roll. If anybody has any questions, feel free to ask. And if your not going to say something positive, KEEP IT OUT OF THIS THREAD.
All in All i'm very happy and ISIS FTW

Here are pics and better one's to come of install when friend stops being lazy and uploads them. and i'll actually have a video of me sliding on them in 2 weeks or so. Cheers

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/000_0010.jpg

Looks weird because my tire pressure is not equal and camera is tilted

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/000_0012.jpg


http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/100_0066.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/100_0067.jpg

Rear
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/100_0070.jpg

Front
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/liquidforce5590/100_0072.jpg

[slideways2004]

please dont post a vid of that car in 2 weeks. also, just because you rode in a few cars with different coilovers doesnt mean you can give an acurate rating/comparison. No one car rides the same.

I used to have jic flt-a2 on my s13 along with a close friend. Our cars rode completely different. There are so many variables that have to be taken into account that comparing different cars should not be considered as a valid comparison.

How Drift tengoku compares coilovers is the only way it should be done other than a shock dyno comparison. Even a shock dyno doesnt matter if you dont know how to read the chart. Drift tengoku installs teh coilovers on the same car on the same day and adjust them as close as possible.

[Deviousjet]

Alrighty, so after 2 weeks of waiting I finally got my coilovers from ISIS aka Enjuku Racing. There has been alot of hate or alot of love for this company, and I came in hearing both the pros and cons, but i decided to give ISIS a try and see how there products actually were. Before we get to the pics, lets just say WOW, coming from springs to coilovers was the best thing i have ever done, I recommend any one who is still on springs to convert. The big topic is people have springs because of the fact that coilovers are so expensive, well that was the case for me, as is alot of people. Save up a little more and get yourself a set of these. Anyways, iv'e ridden in alot of 240's with decent coilover setups from Megan Racing to Ksport. Those both being 800+ coilovers, i found the ISIS coilovers just as equal if not better. Now if your looking for your coilovers to go "Hella" low then these are probably not for you, but on 17's you will have no wheel gap. I have stock 15's and have very little gap even though they are Maxed Out and my tires are meaty as fukkk. If I wanted to i could have taken a collar out and gone lower, but for me i don't want to hear my tires rub every turn or slide. As for Sliding, they were awesome. Very little body roll. If anybody has any questions, feel free to ask. And if your not going to say something positive, KEEP IT OUT OF THIS THREAD.
All in All i'm very happy and ISIS FTW

Here are pics and better one's to come of install when friend stops being lazy and uploads them. and i'll actually have a video of me sliding on them in 2 weeks or so. Cheers


Hopefully by the end of this summer I will order this kit. See now is that so hard 11 pages of bs. Please update how you are still liking em or not liking em guys.

[JurisMyDiction]

Hopefully by the end of this summer I will order this kit. See now is that so hard 11 pages of bs. Please update how you are still liking em or not liking em guys.

I'm liking mine from what I know, spun bearings in the single cam so the car has been sitting, with the rear adjustment perches still in place I'm not too fond of the drop in the back so if you're going for "slammed" look elsewhere, however the ride is excellent. Ill stop being lazy and post some pictures tonight when I get off work (gimme about 2 hours, gotta walk and fed the pups and feed my snake). Ill probably remove the rear perches (both of them) and get an additional 3/4" to 1" of drop out back. I'm also on 15" steelies with like 195/55 so that could possibly change with bigger wheels. Ill start a thread and post a link here in a bit.

[JurisMyDiction]

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/308352-isis-coilovers.html#post3318712

here's my writeup. not extensive since i'll need to drive on them more but you guys get the gist

[lazysk8er2]

http://www.exchange3d.com/cubecart/images/uploads/aff2882/German%20Bismarck%20Battleship//German_Bismarck_Battleship_01.jpg

[JurisMyDiction]

http://www.exchange3d.com/cubecart/images/uploads/aff2882/German%20Bismarck%20Battleship//German_Bismarck_Battleship_01.jpg

if i could begin to comprehend...

[chituntang]

PBM knows their shit...

Straight from DAN at PBM.

"Like many JDM brands, these are made in Taiwan to strict Japanese Spec.
I hope everyone knows the difference between Taiwan and China, and does not place them in the same catergory.
Taiwan is like an old school Japan, with more respect to quality control parameters than most. They also use Japan parts where necessary like the pillowball. This is how we get a supurb product at a nice price with zero parts failure. Other parts we make in the USA and elsewhere, each part is different depending on where MAX can achieve the best cost and quality to pass value directly to the customer."

You need to go to school where they teach you USA is a market driven (well, mostly) economy. Nobody tells you to buy Japan, China, Taiwan, USA or whatever product. So, if you are saying China cannot make products like Taiwan, you should STFU. Give the budget that Taiwan uses and China will make an equal product. The problem is not the location, it is the price. There is a 46" LCD TV for 1500+, there is one for 900. Of course the 900 one will not perform as good as the 1500 one.

please dont post a vid of that car in 2 weeks. also, just because you rode in a few cars with different coilovers doesnt mean you can give an acurate rating/comparison. No one car rides the same.

I used to have jic flt-a2 on my s13 along with a close friend. Our cars rode completely different. There are so many variables that have to be taken into account that comparing different cars should not be considered as a valid comparison.

How Drift tengoku compares coilovers is the only way it should be done other than a shock dyno comparison. Even a shock dyno doesnt matter if you dont know how to read the chart. Drift tengoku installs teh coilovers on the same car on the same day and adjust them as close as possible.

A shock dyno is the best way to compare coilovers, because there are no other variables. Humans are not perfect. So as good as Drift tengoku did in the coilovers review, a shock dyno is still better. Especially your best setup does not equal my best setup. And if you do not know how to read the dyno chart, maybe you should not compare coilovers in the first place.

Damn, I hate people that has no knowledge base.

Back to the topic. Stop showing how low the coilovers can go. That is like the least important information. And to all the people that says they are shit, as long as they can make you car performs better, they did their job. If your 2000 dollars coilover system improves your lap time by 3 second where as the 600 dollars one improves 1 second, the 600 dollars are still better bang for the buck.

[WangonwWarrior]

sunken.....

[My$800S14]

ISIS did not make them, they ordered them from the same factory as Godspeed or whatever 'Ebay company,' and painted them yellow. I guess they ran out of yellow paint.

At least Godspeed and all the other cheap/knockoff companies are not trying to trick anyone that they aren't selling a repackaged 'Ebay' product.
.............................i guess being from kansASS city makes you an expert right?...didn't think so, have you used them? didn't think so, your just a moron with 1 cent to add into any conversation that dosn't take brains to sound intelligent, Isis is NOT Ebay Crap, they are reputable, and yes they are a Chinese importer yet they reject garbage products because they value their reputation, oh and by the way, that hatch that has them...was tracked with guess what ISIS COILOVERS im glad everyone who hasn't tried out apair of the coilovers has something to say...SNIP

[Enjuku Racing]

I personally don't care for these crazy threads, but i thought i would share a little info with you guys.

Patrick V. Goodin Wins round 1 of Street Wise Drift Pro-AM! | Enjuku Racing Blog (http://enjukuracing.com/blog/?p=20)

Patrick Goodin Takes First Place on ISIS Products - ISIS Performance Products - Specializing in high quality products for the sport compact aftermarket (http://www.isisperformance.com/read-news/patrick-goodin-takes-first-place-on-isis-products)

Again - for everyone out there.. THESE ARE ENTRY LEVEL Coilovers. There is no need to compare them to anything high end out there. These are what they are and work great for the money.

If you like them buy them, if you don't I will sell you anything you want !! Its what we do, sell parts !!

thanks

Ken