SMM
11-24-2009, 12:37 AM
Let me first say I am here for advice please only post if you have advice that may help.
History behind dilemma:
Car was in recent accident, I purchased the car after the accident. Radiator hit dizzy cap and crushed the cap and rotor inside so I replaced that. I also had to write down what wire was on what pin on the distributor and individually put connectors on each wire and connect them to correct pin.
I am assuming ignition timing was wrong when I installed the new dizzy because car wont start now and I checked a million times the new distributor is installed correctly (TDC on crank mark,cylinder 1 on dizzy, lobes facing out).
Car actually started once I let it idle it seemed like it wanted to stall and did when I hit the gas. It is now back to not starting. Engine cranks but wont start, I am getting fuel, I am getting spark.
New parts since accident:
Battery
Distributor
Spark plugs
Spark plug wires
5k miles on rebuilt motor
I have checked all fuses, relays,compression,wiring,vacuum lines,grounds,plug wires are on correct cylinders, all that stuff was good to go. I also switched ECU's still nothing.
I guess I have a few NEWB questions, sorry if they sound stupid. Ok I set the new distributor @ TDC on crank pulley and looked through oil filler cap lobes were facing out. I put distributor on cylinder 1 and put cap on and unplugged TPS. Tried to crank it and nothing, its trying to start just wont it seems like its about to though. Was I suppose to set dizzy at TDC unplug TPS then turn crank pulley so that the stock timing mark on crank pulley (20 degree mark if I recall) aligns with timing pin before starting after setting dizzy at TDC?
^I looked through the FSM I downloaded and couldn't find the answer.Maybe I missed it or maybe I am just delirious from the amount of hours and work I have put in trying to sort out this problem.
How do I go about setting ignition timing? This is what I found in a search.....v
Fully warm up the engine. Shut engine off. Disconnect the TPS harness connector. It's located on the passenger's side of the engine just above the throttle assembly. Attach
timing light. Start engine and set timing to 20 degrees BTDC. Check the idle speed. It should read 650 RPM; If not, adjust the idle screw until you get 650 RPM. The idle screw is located on the passenger's side of the engine near the firewall below the intake manifold. Stop the engine. Reconnect the TPS harness connector. Start engine. The idle speed should now be 700 RPM.
.... But I cannot get car started so I can not get engine warmed up, and it says to set timing with car started.
So how do I set ignition timing with a car that will not start?
Lets say it starts how exactly do I set the timing?
How do I attach timing light?
Which one do I buy?
What is BTDC? (base timing DC?)
I am assuming the car not starting is a timing issue. It turns over has fuel and spark just wont fire, but sounds like it is about too, not to mention I am sure I covered everything else.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
BTW this is a 97' s14
History behind dilemma:
Car was in recent accident, I purchased the car after the accident. Radiator hit dizzy cap and crushed the cap and rotor inside so I replaced that. I also had to write down what wire was on what pin on the distributor and individually put connectors on each wire and connect them to correct pin.
I am assuming ignition timing was wrong when I installed the new dizzy because car wont start now and I checked a million times the new distributor is installed correctly (TDC on crank mark,cylinder 1 on dizzy, lobes facing out).
Car actually started once I let it idle it seemed like it wanted to stall and did when I hit the gas. It is now back to not starting. Engine cranks but wont start, I am getting fuel, I am getting spark.
New parts since accident:
Battery
Distributor
Spark plugs
Spark plug wires
5k miles on rebuilt motor
I have checked all fuses, relays,compression,wiring,vacuum lines,grounds,plug wires are on correct cylinders, all that stuff was good to go. I also switched ECU's still nothing.
I guess I have a few NEWB questions, sorry if they sound stupid. Ok I set the new distributor @ TDC on crank pulley and looked through oil filler cap lobes were facing out. I put distributor on cylinder 1 and put cap on and unplugged TPS. Tried to crank it and nothing, its trying to start just wont it seems like its about to though. Was I suppose to set dizzy at TDC unplug TPS then turn crank pulley so that the stock timing mark on crank pulley (20 degree mark if I recall) aligns with timing pin before starting after setting dizzy at TDC?
^I looked through the FSM I downloaded and couldn't find the answer.Maybe I missed it or maybe I am just delirious from the amount of hours and work I have put in trying to sort out this problem.
How do I go about setting ignition timing? This is what I found in a search.....v
Fully warm up the engine. Shut engine off. Disconnect the TPS harness connector. It's located on the passenger's side of the engine just above the throttle assembly. Attach
timing light. Start engine and set timing to 20 degrees BTDC. Check the idle speed. It should read 650 RPM; If not, adjust the idle screw until you get 650 RPM. The idle screw is located on the passenger's side of the engine near the firewall below the intake manifold. Stop the engine. Reconnect the TPS harness connector. Start engine. The idle speed should now be 700 RPM.
.... But I cannot get car started so I can not get engine warmed up, and it says to set timing with car started.
So how do I set ignition timing with a car that will not start?
Lets say it starts how exactly do I set the timing?
How do I attach timing light?
Which one do I buy?
What is BTDC? (base timing DC?)
I am assuming the car not starting is a timing issue. It turns over has fuel and spark just wont fire, but sounds like it is about too, not to mention I am sure I covered everything else.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
BTW this is a 97' s14