View Full Version : scooped hood advice
twitchy
05-15-2003, 12:48 AM
So I drove one hell of a car tonight...a new WRX, 2003
Very fast car, very fast and very grippy. Now that is a car that makes you look like superman. You can do crazy stunts by just flogging the throttle and you just point the car and it goes there (often sideways!)
ANYHOW
I want a scooped hood now. Where can I get one, something mild and believeable (ie to the untrained eye you would think the car came with it). It has to be a hood not just the scoop, and the scoop not too extreme. Any ideas and pics appreciated.
THANKS
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:06 AM
scoop at that place is pointless
if anywhere, add one over a air intake (cone filter)
or a reverse hood opening to let hot air out.
twitchy
05-15-2003, 01:08 AM
nah, I dont care if it works or actually does anything, I just want it for looks
Ive seen them with an opening over the air intake, which looks silly since its not in the middle. Okay I do like your idea of a reverse one to remove heat...where can I get it?
Kid Zelda
05-15-2003, 01:08 AM
Just drill holes into the hood, all over the palce, like swiss cheese .. sweet .. I'll show you a picture soon .. :D
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by twitchy
nah, I dont care if it works or actually does anything, I just want it for looks
RIIIIIIIIICER ALERT!!!!!
Ive seen them with an opening over the air intake, which looks silly since its not in the middle. Okay I do like your idea of a reverse one to remove heat...where can I get it?
doesnt look silly. its FUCTIONAL. not rice mentality!
where can you get one?
JAPAN!
ha ha
but its true. special order. need importer. or go homemade.
twitchy
05-15-2003, 01:10 AM
yah, ten four, then Ill get glowing windshield squirters too
and an apple juice can muffler to boot!
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! NEXT!
Kid Zelda
05-15-2003, 01:11 AM
Buy A C-west VENTED Hood, $900 or so retial, or an M-Sport .. sweet ..
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by twitchy
yah, ten four, then Ill get glowing windshield squirters too
and an apple juice can muffler to boot!
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! NEXT!
yes, next please. your ricer mentality is disgusting!
enjoy your neon windshield squirters!
you want a muffler thats a can...more power to ya..if your going to go rice, might as well do it right!
does no one agree with me?
maybe its justme who prefers FUNCTION before looks and 'coolness' factor....or maybe im just old fashioned.
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Kid Zelda
Buy A C-west VENTED Hood, $900 or so retial, or an M-Sport .. sweet ..
im seriously considering a M Sports hood later this year..maybe by years end. get car repainted and the body kit i got my eyes on on the car as well...HMMM
twitchy
05-15-2003, 01:15 AM
im not getting your point.
I want a scoop cause it looks nice
I dont really want glow squirters and a muffler, I was being sarcastic
There is nothing on your car thats for looks and not function?
and a scoop will help cool off the engine bay whichever way it points
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:17 AM
only for looks on my car ?mmmm
nothing comes to mind. primarily only suspension stuff no body mods.looks, oh my 89/90 lip on my 92 bumper
that's for looks.
um.....that's it.
so your going to cool the top of your valve cover? :rolleyes:
twitchy
05-15-2003, 01:22 AM
as I said
Its just for looks
the scoop
i dont get "ricer" I mean there is a lot of junk I consider "ricer" which I would never get
the hood is not one of them.
Ricer or not I dont know. I mean, I want a little subtle scoop, not louvers and grilles and vents everywhere
It wont just cool the valve cover either it will circulate air
well let me know when you get yours
and I know you have a stockpile of cool pics of scooped hoods somewhere too....
:-)
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 01:25 AM
yeah i do
but i dont support ricer mentality!
what most peple agree: looks BEFORE function=rice
it looks cool
what does it do? cool your valve cover. wow. stock KA? how often do you go ot track again? i forgot....daily driving it isnt necessary, if it was, you would have one stock! sh*t even track its not necessary. if your engine gets THAT hot then you have engine problems! not circulation!
yeah i got TONS of pictures, some ads, various weblinks, etc and places to get hoods and scoops and hood insert reverse scoops.....but.....see above replies.
g'night!
twitchy
05-15-2003, 01:33 AM
Its going to be one of those threads
I DONT HAVE RICER MENTALITY
YOU HAVE "HEAD IN YOUR @$$"
MENTALITY
dont start calling me a goddamn ricer, my car is S T O C K ! ! ! ! !
I want a hood to make it look nice or unique or whatever
those mismatched wheels you have on yours, whats the point of them, to help you drift? huh? RICER!!!
or that lip..whats the purpose of that...to stop aerodynamic lift since your car makes what like maybe 200 horses?? Whoo, I wouldnt worry about it
Chernobyl
05-15-2003, 02:05 AM
HAHA quit bickering guys, who cares? FC scoop might look ok, also look for early z31 turbo scoops, although they are boxy and at a slope.
Just drill holes into the hood, all over the palce, like swiss cheese .. sweet .. I'll show you a picture soon ..
Haha, SPEED HOLES... I wanna see pics man!
boro240
05-15-2003, 02:07 AM
it should ALWAYS be function>form.
I DONT HAVE RICER MENTALITY
YOU HAVE "HEAD IN YOUR @$$"
MENTALITY
dont start calling me a goddamn ricer, my car is S T O C K ! ! ! ! !
umm...yes you do. your car being stock says nothing about your plans for it, which are obviously form>function. hes not neccesarily insulting you, just telling you like it is. calm down.
those mismatched wheels you have on yours, whats the point of them, to help you drift?
yes actually.
or that lip..whats the purpose of that...to stop aerodynamic lift since your car makes what like maybe 200 horses??
granted the lip may not do much of anything (maybe SOMETHING, but probably insignificant), but a scoop will actually hurt your cars performance (again, not significantly). also, zenki lips are super cheap, as opposed to a hood scoop. (which im sure he got his for free, or damn near close.)
newbies always try to knock you eh aaron? lol...you have a newbie magnet in your pocket?
datkwikracer
05-15-2003, 02:12 AM
did u try a search, i think i remember seeing a scoop somewhere on zilvia.
and also try to chill out with all the pointless threads you've been starting (if u dont wanna get flamed that is, otherwise continue) it makes it look as if you're just trying to get your post count up. 193 posts since april c'mon now, i'd say 80% were pointless and most ended up in flames.
and no this is not a flame just a FYI.:)
peace
Fastback180
05-15-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
or a reverse hood opening to let hot air out.
BINGO!
Yeah just take a pick to your hood, make some "speed holes" .
Jim96SC2
05-15-2003, 06:05 AM
Doesn't a WRX have a TMIC so that the air from the scoop cools it?
boro240
05-15-2003, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by Jim96SC2
Doesn't a WRX have a TMIC so that the air from the scoop cools it?
exactly. it would do nothing on the 240SX except create more drag really.
Originally posted by dousan36
does no one agree with me?
maybe its justme who prefers FUNCTION before looks and 'coolness' factor....or maybe im just old fashioned.
I agree with you 100%. My view about modifying cars completely changed since I did my first Auto-X event...
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 09:19 AM
Originally posted by twitchy
Its going to be one of those threads
I DONT HAVE RICER MENTALITY
YOU HAVE "HEAD IN YOUR @$$"
MENTALITY
dont start calling me a goddamn ricer, my car is S T O C K ! ! ! ! !
I want a hood to make it look nice or unique or whatever
those mismatched wheels you have on yours, whats the point of them, to help you drift? huh? RICER!!!
or that lip..whats the purpose of that...to stop aerodynamic lift since your car makes what like maybe 200 horses?? Whoo, I wouldnt worry about it
guess what?
daddy is back online.
boy, dont make me remove my belt!
unique. yeah that's what the first guy w/ the noen windshield nozzles said.
car is stock, so why mess it up?
mismatched wheels, actually few reasons:
i change tires often (at least 2 times a month) and cant always afford new tires. 2 full sets (and sometimes borrow friends' wheels) of wheels are easy to swap. also various offsets give the car various response and handling change as well as tire selections and sizes. Fuction over form. if i could, i have have 3 full sets of the exact same wheels. but wheels are pricy and a lot of theones i have are relatively hard to find (kosei k1 in a 15x7 +27 which clears z brakes AND coilovers w/o a spacer). ssr reverse mesh in a 5 lug pattern. also use sometimes ssr form mesh in a 4 lug pattern. used to have some 16x7 0 offset riken mesh. also used the stock steelies and alloys (15x6 +40) for the longest time (almost over year). also had some longchamps 15x7.5 +5.
those wheels all vary in size and offset. hence, changes car's performance.
i also play a lot with various alignment setups.
tire changes of course change the car immensily (sp)
the lip is looks. are you blind? i already said that above...i dont deny it.
200 HP? hahah..i wish.
my car makes 136.1 rwhp and 136.9 rwtorque. its been dyno'd. only power mod i have is a RS*R ExMag catback exhaust. that's it! i have a S-AFC waiting for me, just too lazy and dont want to spend the money tuning (read: ka is waste of money to me)
i dont even have a cone filter. i still have the Y-pipe on my car intake.yes, it's that stock.
anything else genius?
wrx have the intercooler on top. hence the scoop. FUCTION over form.
anything else? maybe a riddle or something?
misnomer
05-15-2003, 09:54 AM
Geeze doods, a lot of threads lately have fallen to bickering. We gotta cut this **** out, makes the forums no fun to read.
On to the point. . .
Personally, I don't think a hood scoop would go well on an s13 fastback. It has a low, sleek look with the older style long hood. I personally just don't think a hood scoop fits the design very well. Hell, I haven't seen a single aftermarket hood (that didn't look factory) that I have liked.
twitchy
05-15-2003, 09:55 AM
thats kind of why I wanna see pics...if you can remember anywhere online that you have seen pics of it, can you post a link if you have time?
sykikchimp
05-15-2003, 10:09 AM
I could see a scoop like this lookin pretty cool, but that would require some custom hood. I don't know of anyone that makes them.
http://downloads.redjupiter.com/users/images/FerrariForSale/CJ221b.jpg
boro240
05-15-2003, 10:15 AM
ive seen a FC style scoop on a white S13 fastback here, and it didnt look too good. he also has a full "nismo style" kit molded on (except the front). he was at the last drift event and had thefront off (so it wouldnt be damaged id assume), leaving his big expensive intercooler all exposed (yeah hes got an SR (i assume)). $300>bumper over a $7-900 intercooler? smart guy.
Steeles
05-15-2003, 10:45 AM
http://www.yashiofactory.co.jp/i_love/180_cbon/main/bn_main.jpg
unfff sexy
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 10:47 AM
good pic
as i suggested above
REVERSE vented hood
btw, for the people who dont know
that is a REAL USDM Nissan 240sx fastback
Yashio Factory brought it to japan and did a SR swap on it. its a 89 iirc...i forget.
pink OWNZ jooooo
Steeles
05-15-2003, 10:50 AM
:) I know better than to believe super street but in their coverage of TAS they said the swap was because they couldnt get a 500hp KA built in time for the show....
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 10:53 AM
Super street? :rolleyes:
haha
last time i saw pics in the mags, it still rocked the SR.
maybe it will get KA again, but why. i forget how much power that SR made...er...ill look later if no one else knows.
Steeles
05-15-2003, 10:57 AM
yah every pic of it I've seen has the SR but SS was saying they were building the KA but didnt get it done in time so slapped the SR in it for the show. :rolleyes: oh well the WBK is t3h h0tn3ss
AKADriver
05-15-2003, 11:04 AM
heh, I saw pictures of it from the last TAS... but now I can't find them :( Tons of TAS 2003 galleries on the net, all of them are just pictures of '04 WRXs and 350Zs... no love and attention for a pink RHS13 :D
the red dash is funny... looks surprisingly good, but still not something I'd do to my car.
boro240
05-15-2003, 11:04 AM
they DO have a KA turbo kit though. i cant see that selling too well in japan.
twitchy
05-15-2003, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by Steeles
http://www.yashiofactory.co.jp/i_love/180_cbon/main/bn_main.jpg
unfff sexy
you mean un sexy? Yeah, maybe if it was the same color as the rest of the car and had no stickers on it.
Minus the two little scoops.. I mean geez, its not a freakin ferrari...
On the other hand, yes, I like the one on the 550M, thats kind of what I was thinking
Steeles
05-15-2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
you mean un sexy? Yeah, maybe if it was the same color as the rest of the car and had no stickers on it.
Minus the two little scoops.. I mean geez, its not a freakin ferrari...
On the other hand, yes, I like the one on the 550M, thats kind of what I was thinking
no I mean unfff damn sexy.
two scoops FUNCTION, stickers well its a shop car what do you expect. no not a ferrari but a damn nice car.
twitchy
05-15-2003, 12:10 PM
yes, damn nice car, damn ugly hood
boro240
05-15-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
I mean geez, its not a freakin ferrari...
On the other hand, yes, I like the one on the 550M, thats kind of what I was thinking
oooooook. yeah its not a ferrari, but you want a ferrari scoop though...sooo....ooooook? sorry im not getting the logic. :confused:
Dousan_PG
05-15-2003, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
you mean un sexy? Yeah, maybe if it was the same color as the rest of the car and had no stickers on it.
Minus the two little scoops.. I mean geez, its not a freakin ferrari...
On the other hand, yes, I like the one on the 550M, thats kind of what I was thinking
:rolleyes:
stickers..its a shop car and track car=advertising
obviously youve never been sponsored..
ferarris arent godly. many cars can eat ferarris for breakfast. big whoop. if you get all wet over a company name, that's pretty sad.
and the scoops on the yashio car are FUNCTIONAL. ...
oh wait, i forget this is a i-need-a-non-functional-hood-scoop--because-im-a-ricer-in-denial thread............my bad
sorry about that. wrong thread.
sykikchimp
05-15-2003, 12:46 PM
"Can't we just all get along" .. if not, I'll just lock the thread. period.
a lot of Ferrari's are kickass.. didn't a stock Ferrari w/hoosiers win the Ultimate Street car challenge last year?
WhiteNissanS13
05-15-2003, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
you mean un sexy? Yeah, maybe if it was the same color as the rest of the car and had no stickers on it.
Minus the two little scoops.. I mean geez, its not a freakin ferrari...
On the other hand, yes, I like the one on the 550M, thats kind of what I was thinking
i'm sorry but i think that is one hot car. that hood is nice too. i dont think ferrari would ever use a reverse hood because the engine is in the back?
zspturbo
05-15-2003, 05:50 PM
http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/hood/hood.htm
I imagine you can do it coming the other way, round the edges.... use your imagination.
Jim96SC2
05-15-2003, 05:57 PM
Well screw me stupid. I thought he had a WRX and wanted a larger scoop for more air. Not a 240sx with a scoop.
BURN HIM!
goodjuan
05-15-2003, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by Kid Zelda
Just drill holes into the hood, all over the palce, like swiss cheese .. sweet .. I'll show you a picture soon .. :D
speed holes!!! homer j simpson style:D
91CRXsiR
05-16-2003, 02:25 AM
www.importfan.com
www.visracing.com
www.extremedimensions.com
they all sell hood scoops its pretty sraight forward. Just cut and drill. Its going to look funny since you dont have a intercooler there [ thats why the WRX has em ] but fuggit if you want to its ur ride u can do what you want with it...
twitchy
05-16-2003, 10:23 AM
thanks, im not sure what im going to do, I dont want to cut my existing hood, but ill take a look
thanks again
SimpleS14
05-16-2003, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
btw, for the people who dont know
that is a REAL USDM Nissan 240sx fastback
Yashio Factory brought it to japan and did a SR swap on it. its a 89 iirc...i forget.
pink OWNZ jooooo
Why did they do that?...just for the LHD? :confused:
BTW....this bickering is very funny...twitchy I would just get a vented hood. I believe you can make your own from your current 50lbs metal hood.
Steeles
05-16-2003, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by GT specR
Why did they do that?...just for the LHD? :confused:
BTW....this bickering is very funny...twitchy I would just get a vented hood. I believe you can make your own from your current 50lbs metal hood.
why do they paint all their cars pink? to be different to stand out. as Me and Dousan discussed rumors were they were building the KA. kinda like shops here bring over JDM vehichles to be different and get noticed they did the USDM thing.
twitchy
05-16-2003, 11:12 AM
i really want a hood made with a scoop in it already.
I know ive seen them before although for the life of me I cant remember where.
I dont want to hack mine up, its in good shape, I could save it or try and sell it on ebay or something maybe
thanks dudes
Dousan_PG
05-16-2003, 11:12 AM
Originally posted by GT specR
Why did they do that?...just for the LHD? :confused:
BTW....this bickering is very funny...twitchy I would just get a vented hood. I believe you can make your own from your current 50lbs metal hood.
how many companies would you think of over in japan have a real LHD "180sx"?
to be different and stand out from all the other 180sx and silvias at shows and events. also helps land a companies name in magazines and such.
SimpleS14
05-16-2003, 11:22 AM
This car has both....but I can see how its functional.....
twitchy
05-16-2003, 11:31 AM
HOT!!!
where can I get one, and can you paint that carbon fiber?
SimpleS14
05-16-2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by twitchy
HOT!!!
where can I get one, and can you paint that carbon fiber?
You can get one from Japan. :p Honestly, I forgot the maker of that hood....either way you still have to get it from Japan.
You can paint it....but why would you want to do that? :confused:
Dousan_PG
05-16-2003, 01:26 PM
damn! you found my stash!
i scanned that pic. that's a pic from DRift Tengoku of Hayashida's RS*R sponsored s14 kouki. so nice
hood: STOUT
is brand iirc.
it is CF. and if i recall correctly, no s13 model in that design
i love how you basically are doing EXACTLY what i said
vent above intake
and reverse vent
READ MY FIRST POST TO YOU
scoop at that place is pointless
if anywhere, add one over a air intake (cone filter)
or a reverse hood opening to let hot air out.
i tell ya. im not always wrong :)
damn i feel proud right now :) :)
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
edit: funny thing how you liek THAT hood but your reply to me was:
nah, I dont care if it works or actually does anything, I just want it for looks
Ive seen them with an opening over the air intake, which looks silly since its not in the middle.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
wait....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHA
S13Grl
05-16-2003, 03:03 PM
Hahahahahahaha! LOL! HAhahahahaah!
haha
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haha
hah
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Twitchy, man... what'd I tell you about pregnant women and their hormones?
SimpleS14
05-16-2003, 03:34 PM
LOL...sorry twitchy, but you got owned by dousan36......
dousan36 -> http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/slap.gif <- twitchy
Originally posted by boro240
they DO have a KA turbo kit though. i cant see that selling too well in japan.
Does it still exist? where can I get ahold of this kit? :confused:
boro240
05-16-2003, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by GT specR
Does it still exist? where can I get ahold of this kit? :confused:
they had it at TAS or something, i dont remember (it was awhile ago). i dunno if they just did it for the show or what.
Maeda
05-16-2003, 05:45 PM
ive been looking for a nice reverse scoop hood o.O
i wanna angle my i/c so it points down, and is fed through the mouth, and the air goes over the engine then out the hood... that would be so sexy....
those VIS hoods any good? They do make a whole lotta honda parts, and ugly kits....
91CRXsiR
05-16-2003, 09:06 PM
ok since you dont want to cut your hood, you can just get the hood scoop and mold it onto your hood w/o cutting it, it will still have the look but will be NON functional [ which i dont think you care about anyways ] but, you will still have to modify the hood one way or another, if you dont want o mess up your current hood just go buy another one for like 50 bucks in the forsale section
twitchy
05-17-2003, 01:03 AM
ooooh Dousan
maybe i misunderstood you but I meant that I didnt like the intake on the light cover, im assuming thats what you meant since I have an S13
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