Haltech Releases New Budget Ecu!

[johngriff]

You heard that right!

I have known this was in the pipe line for some time, but haltech has finally released this bad little box.

It is called the Platinum Sprint 500 Ecu. You can view some of haltech P/R at this link:
Platinum Sprint 500- Haltech Engine Management Systems (http://www.haltech.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=120&Itemid=88)

Here is a link to an official Spec Sheet:
http://www.haltech.com/downloads/platinum/PLATINUM_Sprint_500.pdf

So why does this product deserve its own thread in tech?

I think this product is what the 240sx community has been waiting for. The MSRP on this guy is $945. For that you get the ecu, flying lead harness, with on board map sensor (2.5 bar).

The ecu uses the same new "ECU manager" software that haltech has released to tune their High End Ecus, and you connect via usb.

For KA guys this should be a revolution. This ECU will let you convert to MAP, and individual coils with a reliable and professionally developed system for next to nothing.

The best part is that haltech has carried over all their nissan cas reading expertise into this ecu. With the AEM $1600 ecu you have to replace the dizzy wheel with a LOW resolution wheel that increases inaccuracy in timing. On the opposite end of the spectrum the megasquirt only uses the home window pattern out of the dizzy, which is only TDC. This ecu utilizes full 360/4 pattern, so it is just as accurate as haltechs 1700 ecus, you just save 800 bucks.

I am FULLY vested in getting this ecu into the hands of the community, and eventually developing a KA patch loom for this ecu to attempt to make an upgrade even easier.

This offer only applies to the Sprint 500.

Even if you purchased a Sprint 500 ecu from another vendor, if you are using it on a nissan engine application, I will give free tech support to the first and second generation of users to build a solid data base of tech for this ecu on nissan applications.

If you purchased a Platinum 1000/2000, Platinum Pro etc from another vendor, this offer does not apply.

What do you guys think? Is this what you have been waiting for? Full Map Sensor system for this cheap!?!

Oh, and don't forget to check out haltech's software to tune the ecu with too (its free, no paying for licenses) Here: http://files.haltech.com/downloads/platinum/Haltech_ECU_Manager_1.05_Release.zip

I would love some feed back in this thread!

John
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[greenman100]

I'm really interested in this. Is there a full manual anywhere?

Is it compatible with E8/etc flying loom kits?

[NiSilS14]

I wanna see this ish happening. I have always had a bias towards haltech, and with you gearing this towards the KA is very exciting. When will the KA patch loom be released?

[ka-titties]

this sounds great. i am planning a new track car build an i was debating which EM to use.

[johngriff]

I'm really interested in this. Is there a full manual anywhere?

Is it compatible with E8/etc flying loom kits?

I have not seen a copy of it yet, I will try to get one this week if I can.

This ecu uses a different Haltech ecu connector, so none of the P1000/E8 Patch looms will carry over, that is setting us back on the KA patch loom. The other hurdle is that there is 4 different KA looms to address, so we have to attack the most popular and available first. Also the KA is a North American application only which shrinks its importance because SR's are international.


I wanna see this ish happening. I have always had a bias towards haltech, and with you gearing this towards the KA is very exciting. When will the KA patch loom be released?

TBA, things are definitely moving slower than I would have hoped at this point. (read 2010)

this sounds great. i am planning a new track car build an i was debating which EM to use.

Especially for a track car, this should be a no brainer. The flying lead harness is about 32 pins or less, so turning the Sprint 500's harness into your engine harness is a pretty simple feat. You can also touch base with me for allot of pointers and help if that is the direction you decide to go down.

I also don't know how much documentation is out there on the benefits of a Coil per plug setup. Using a distributor, even with the LARGEST coil possible, the coil can never deliver as much spark as a coil per plug setup. In theory, you could use 4 KA coils and net twice the effective spark per plug. The science behind this is the coils off and charge time between firing. Because 1 coil has to drive 4 cyl's it has little time to charge between sparks, so either it cannot dwell long enough to fully charge, or does not have enough off time to stay cool enough delivering allot of spark. Just by simply swapping to 4 ka coils, you can double the effective spark running the coils in a waste pattern. This ecu presents one of the most reliable and cost effective methods of accomplishing this.

[johngriff]

For those asking for a KA patch loom.

Today RPSport is releasing their KA24E and KA24DE S13 Platinum 1000 patch loom.

Right Here:

RPSport.net Haltech KA24DE KA24E S13 Patch Harness Kit (http://www.rpsport.net/haltech/36666/)

The sprint loom is going to take months if at all. Lots of work into these projects.

John

[JVD]

Sounds pretty killer.

Now people can skip the D-Jetro completely. Avoid having to get Datalogit.

I thought the Halwin software was pretty great.

Nothing can really even compete with this.

[G240]

John,

How does this compare to the E8? I was initially planning on buying the E8 for my SR.

Thanks!

[johngriff]

The E8 is discontinued now, replaced by the platinum 1000.

Both of those ecus have comparable features though.
32x32 Mapping
4 injector outs
4 ignition out
I think 4 or 6 aux outs depending on which ecu
On Ecu Data logging.


The sprint 500 is:
16x16 mapping
4 injector out
4 ignition outs
2 aux outs
No on ecu data logging.

I have never really used on ecu data logging though, always data logged directly to the laptop / halwin / ecu manager software.

As far as the aux outs.
1 you want to use for the IACV/AAC solenoid.
The other probably boost control.

Other than that, and the physical size (sprint is much smaller with a different smaller ecm connector) they are pretty close to the same.

[G240]

Good to know. Thanks again for the comparison.

[boosteds14]

I have the Sport P1000 on my race car...best investment ever!

as for the Sport 500, you also would want an aux-out for RPM signal. This is definitly properly priced and reliable way to go for a standalone.

**scratch that, i just noticed it has a dedicated RPM signal output...KILLER!

[s13 @ fullboost]

pure win and to think I almost went with EMS haha

[johngriff]

Its set up as a fixed out for RPM on the sprint 500, I was mentioning what to do with the two extra aux outs.

And yeah, haltech is the ish.

[johngriff]

Here is a preliminary Schem for the KA - Sprint 500, if you are so inclined to do your own wiring, which with the sprint is very very easy.

The only part not shown is basic power / ground which is straight forward.

What I am shaky about is the KA's coil wiring config, if this was using LS1, LS2 SR or any other CNP or COP or CPP setup, I could make a 100% correct coil wiring chart.

Anyone that cares to chime in on freestanding wiring with the OEM coil and ignitor please do.

Hosted from RPSport.net for the community.
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS (http://www.rpsport.net/support/ka_sprint500/KA_PS500_wiring.png)

http://www.rpsport.net/support/ka_sprint500/KA_PS500_wiring.png

-- John

[Zacho]

I'm curious about running this on an RB. One thing I like about ECU's like ViPEC is it simply plugs in, but its 1600$....I would love to get one of these but I will be waiting until some other people get them running on a few different engines for feedback.

[johngriff]

Internally the ecu is the same as the P1000, just without extras.

And I think JVDSkyrine just embarked on a P1000 to RB25 project....

[slideways2004]

man this sounds awesome.

I would love to see some kind of 1jz/2jz harness

[johngriff]

man this sounds awesome.

I would love to see some kind of 1jz/2jz harness

There is a plug and play 2jz harness, and a fully terminated (complete replacement harness) for the Platinum 2000. Though you can run a 1j or 2j in batch config on a sprint 500 or P 1000, I would think you would want to go full sequential using the 2000.

As far as 1jz compatibility, I am not aware of anything at the moment.

[kazuma]

quick question cause I am dumb and didnt get it :D.

I currently have a s14 ka-t and am using a custom harness to connect to my s13 ecu. now if I were to get the rpsport loom would I be able to use it plug and play with the sprint 500 or do we have to wait till someone makes a new harness for the ka and sprint 500?

[johngriff]

the rpsport loom we just released is only for the Platinum 1000, the sport 500 patch loom is still in development, though, if you are using an intermediary loom, I can give you wiring schem from the Sprint 500 to that intermediary and you can make your own patch loom.

I would estimate it at about 2 hours of work and 25 or so connections.

John

[s13gold]

hey john whats up man.

u were suppose to complete my harness a few months ago with the Haltech i bought off you.

lots of pms lots of emails. no repsonse.

call me asap 310 714 0538.

[kazuma]

just one other thing how hard is it to get the haltech calibrated for the ka sensors?

[johngriff]

easy, I have calibrations for the Dizzy, dwell on the coil/ignitor, coolant temp sensor, and tps, and a map for the 270cc injectors.

You drop the AFM, and go with the haltech MAP and air temp, and those calibrations are in there already too.

John

[steve shadows]

If you are using a dyno dynamics with logging you don't need the ON ECU logging anyways.

You just need a solid dyno session, lock it down, and car is done!

[keytops]

I don't see anything on your site to buy only the harness adaptor.

[johngriff]

Let me see if I can help you out.

Shoot me an email if there is something that you need help with.

RPSport.net Haltech KA24DE KA24E S13 Patch Harness Kit (http://www.rpsport.net/haltech/36666/)

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