FMICs on Pignose cars

[transient]

Hey, anyone here have a FMIC on a pignose style 240sx? I'm trying to figure out how i'm going to mount my intercooler when I finally get the money for it. I'd really like to see what some of you came up with. I've got the AC condenser out of the way, so that frees up a little bit more room...

edit: w00t! Post no. 2500

[uuninja]

"Pig Nosed" never heard that before. What kind of 240 has the nose of a pig?!?! (too lazy to look at your profile)

Edit: Remembered that jeff's car at srswap.com is also a 90 (after reading your profile) I guess this is what you wanted :-/
http://www.srswap.com/pics/gallery/white90f_lg.jpg

[transient]

89-90. The zenki style s13's.

[uuninja]

see above

[Dousan_PG]

AND NO I DONT KNOW WHERE ONE CAN BUY THE LIP OR WHO MAKES IT (its been asked everytime i post this pic and no one knows)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p2de1a65a2b3ffeb66905291b15b03f73/fd221d36.jpg

[Jim96SC2]

DUDE WHERE CAN I GET THAT LIP! HOW MUCH!?

[andrave]

dousan you flash that car everywhere. is nice tho.
I don't really understand the question, there are lots of pignosers out there with fmic's, and there is a whole lotta room for an ic.

[nrcooled]

If you have a dremmel and some time then you can fit an IC.

The question is TMIC SMIC or FMIC

[transient]

I've actually noticed that a lot of S13's are starting to go with TMICs. Mostly drift cars in japan, but some of the setups look really good. I just wonder if it would be as effective as a FMIC. What I was hoping to find was a setup that didn't require me to cut into the bumper... I'm definately not going to go with a SMIC.

Btw, even if it's not exactly the same, K-Style makes a lip that looks a lot like the one in that picture.

[nrcooled]

Originally posted by transient
I've actually noticed that a lot of S13's are starting to go with TMICs. Mostly drift cars in japan, but some of the setups look really good. I just wonder if it would be as effective as a FMIC. What I was hoping to find was a setup that didn't require me to cut into the bumper... I'm definately not going to go with a SMIC.

Btw, even if it's not exactly the same, K-Style makes a lip that looks a lot like the one in that picture.

This was discussed a while back:
TMIC are very expensive due to tons of custom fabrication and research. You also will need a custom hood. Very original though. I would like to see someone do it

[Zemus]

Originally posted by dousan36
AND NO I DONT KNOW WHERE ONE CAN BUY THE LIP OR WHO MAKES IT (its been asked everytime i post this pic and no one knows)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid36/p2de1a65a2b3ffeb66905291b15b03f73/fd221d36.jpg

its not just a lip its a whole new front bumper

[ca18guy]

TMIC's are a waste from a performance stand point. Drifters probably like them cause it doesn't get beat up if they run into something :p

[Jim96SC2]

Bumper, lip, ehh! Still looks hot!

[transient]

That's a good point about the tmics. While I think a well designed setup can work decently, i'm sure you're right about the reason for them being used by drifters.

Anyway, I think i've figured out what i'm going to do. There was a pretty cool article in SCC this issue about their "project silvia." which shows a good way to relocate the radiator backward a little bit and mount the IC in front of it. It involves some fabrication for the block-off plates to keep air flowing through the intercooler, but all in all, it looks pretty efficient and definately doable.

[sykikchimp]

TMIC's provide extremly fast throttle, and boost response. Thats why drifters like them. You have to have good a nice big airdam to force air up through it though.

[oberkill]

Here are some old pics of my car with the front mount.

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/pic4.jpg

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/raddrivside1.JPG

Alan

[transient]

so why did you decide to go out in front of the bumper support instead of right in front of the radiator?

[transient]

Finally scanned a picture of what I want to do. Found it in SCC magazine.

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/attachment.php?s=&postid=248605" />

[oberkill]

The reason mine is out there is because thats where the piping puts it! LOL I dont drift and I prefer it out in front anyways. Simple is usually better and I am all about simple!

Alan

[andrave]

gp sports (and probaby other companies) make those block off plates already, though they are probably a lot more expensive than using sheet metal. I haven't worked with metal yet, but I could probably make some awesome carbon or kevlar block off plates cause I have a lot of experience with fiberglass, knytex, and kevlar.

anyway if you wanted prefab ones tatakaira would prolly be a good place to start.

I also think a top mount would be cool but I haven't seen too many hoods in the US designed for it... most of them have the vents too far back. I was looking for a hood for the S13 with the cutouts in the same style as the one on the fast and furious supra, but that was back when I had money. my stock hood is perfect and it was only 50 bucks so I'll probably keep it.

[transient]

Well, I don't have any problem with fabricating blockoff plates. I'm sure it would be pretty easy with metal. Make a template out of cardboard, trace it onto the metal and then cut it out with snips or a metal eating jigsaw or something.

[Kid Zelda]

http://www.djelektrique.com/~nissan/PigFMIC.jpg

[Ryan of Velocity]

Originally posted by ca18guy
TMIC's are a waste from a performance stand point. Drifters probably like them cause it doesn't get beat up if they run into something :p

I beg to differ. It is all relative to what type of driving you do. On a circuit/road race car a tmic is more advantageous than a fmic.

A properly setup TMIC would allow equal airflow for both the intercooler and the radiator. This setup would of course involve placing either unit in the well known "v" shape. Air would enter the front air dam and would pass through both the radiator and the intercooler. With a proper hood, one that has an opening directly above the intercooler so as to allow air to pass through the intercooler, air would escape the engine bay, improving not only aerodynamics but would aid in cooling of the engine bay. Another benefit would be faster boost response as there would be less piping, i.e. less distance for said "boost" to travel from the turbine through the core and then to the throttle body.

These are also not as complicated and expensive to setup as one may initially think. Welding classes go a long way as well. If you can do the welding yourself the price drops DRAMATICALLY.

Essentially the parts you need if you can do the welding yourself are the piping, core, end tanks, couplers and ring clamps, and various items to fabricate the new mounting setup. Also as in the case with the SR20DET you will need to eliminate the stock fan. Then you also need the hood which isn't neccesarily required as you can modify your stock hood pretty easily.

Of course if you are just building a street machine or a drag car it probably not worth the trouble. But it sure would be fun to setup:)

Myself personally I am currently working on a fmic setup that would place the core 5 feet infront of the car on it's own axle and 12'' TE37's for optimum air flow:)