LED winkers and the clearcorners saga to be continued.

[Brian]

Hello Mike, I have a question for you.

First a story, then a question, actually.

SO, you know that I have those aftermarket TYPE X position lights that get all sick and do the blinkers too. Right. Well, you also know that they use those orange LED guys as the blinkers.

I know that you don't like those LEDs.

Anyways, as far as I know, because of that certain type of LED, it makes my blinkers go super fast. I hate it. I feel like a 16 year old kid coming out of high school in his mom's accord with a Combat wing and HYPER FLASHERS.


How do I fix this?
Is it simple?

Does it require me getting a whole new setup up from CLEARCORNERS.COM?


Thanks.

I know you are the king of lights, so I figured you could tell me what I need to do to get these lights to flash at a normal human speed.

Thanks.

[Matej]

Get regular bulbs, or one of these thingies:
LED Flashers Blinkers Resistors Load Equalizers for Turn Signal Replacement Bulbs Rapid Flashing Fix (http://autolumination.com/equalizers.htm)

[xpertsnowcarver]

I don't understand the difference between FL-2 and CF12ANL-01.. both wiring diagrams look the same.

[Forge_55b]

Autozone or kragen sells load resisters, usually in the lightbulb/indicators section

you just splice it parallel with the positive and ground and it should stop the hyperflashing

oh yeah and the reason it hyperflashes is because the load on the led is a lot lower than a bulb so the resister compensates for that

the extra load however can make them get hot and if on for a long time i heard they can ignite (maybe 1 hour of a constant load? i have no idea as i haven't had any problems using em)

[Matej]

the extra load however can make them get hot and if on for a long time i heard they can ignite
Fire turn signals would be cool.

[zenki.life]

Fire turn signals would be cool.

haha. start a new fad

[kouki-gymkhana]

What you need is a load-independent turn signal controller. See,...the OEM turn signal controller is DESIGNED to blink fast to indicate when a bulb is blown. The blink rate is determined by the resistance seen by the controller. If a bulb is blown, the resistance is inifinite and so it blinks fast. The LED shit-show bulbs you probably bought have much less resistance than a regular filament-type bulb and therefore result in a fast blink rate. Load resistors (like the ones found in the link above) simply restore the resistance level seen by the controller to restore the normal blink rate.

A load-independent controller (like what they use on 18 wheelers) has a fixed blink rate no matter what the resistance is. This is what enables truckers to run the 6 million turn signal arrays you sometimes see on the big rigs. You should be able to pick one up online a truck lighting supply site. Just make sure the circuit is similar to the OEM Nissan one.

PS. I've been running one of these on my car since 2003 with no problems.

/end today's lesson

[Brian]

Sounds too complicated.
I'll stick with the faster blinker I guess...

maybe one day I'll get this controller you speak of.
thank you for the info

[chibo]

Sounds too complicated.
I'll stick with the faster blinker I guess...

maybe one day I'll get this controller you speak of.
thank you for the info

1. Take a multimeter to a light that normally goes there, write down the resistance.
2. Take a multimeter to the LED you are using, write down the difference.
3. Find a resistor at Radioshack for $0.10 that when LED Resistance + Resistor Resistance >= Bulb Resistance
4. Solder that resistor in parallel with the LED.

edit: Pictures stolen from google images
http://cbrworld.net/forums/storage/82/264119/resistor.jpg
http://www.cbrworld.net/upload/images/img301_577.jpg
If you are worried about them getting hot you can get some thermal paste they use for CPUs and put a line of it on the resistor, then stick it to your body next to the lights or something.

It's really not hard, and pretty cheap.

[Brian]

lol, soldering.

NOT.


Maybe I can pay Mike.

[chibo]

Fair enough. :) He probably has the specific resistors or an alternate fix you want anyway.

[kuruptR]

I got the LED relay from Super Bright LEDs - LED Products and Accessories (http://www.superbrightleds.com), had it for a couple years.. works great.

[ixfxi]

sorry brian, there is no solution.


your only option is quick blinking, just like your avatar. it will haunt you until you die.



wish i had a better solution for you, but i dont. death is your only solution.


ps: most of the folks here have already answered your question, although almost every answer was technically incorrect. to sum it up, you can either go with a solid state flash module, 2-wire flash module, or just patch-fix your problem by adding load resistors.

[Brian]

The king has spoken.

Can CLEARCORNERS do this conversion?

[ixfxi]

what do you want me to tell you dude

i can do whatever you need. come by the office and your blinking problem will be history

ps: bring money. not too much though.

[lflkajfj12123]

DAMN

i wish i was in cali

i'd cruise on over and have you wire mine too

[ixfxi]

why not just run proper bulbs

as opposed to shitty plug-in led garbage?

[lflkajfj12123]

is that possible

can you share your trade secrets?

[ryguy]

I had the same problem using standard bulbs on my 180sx front markers. Could it have to do with the fact that they use a small 194 bulb rather than that big 1157 bulb that is standard on the USDM lights?

Max, I have a soldering iron you could borrow if you wanna resistor it up.

[arkive43]

HAHAHAHAAH wiring, soldering + BH even i know that dont mix. this is a build thread.

[Brian]

well, why couldn't I just twist 2 wires together and tape over them?
Same thing, right?

[lflkajfj12123]

that should work 100% of the time

works for me

[hippo_chips]

Brian, get some 18 watt wedge bulbs. I've got some extra amber ones. Even got some chromed out amber ones that look cool in the housing, but horrible light in day.

[JdM_JunKiE]

well, why couldn't I just twist 2 wires together and tape over them?
Same thing, right?

LMK when you fix it brian cause i have the same problem :( i feel like a Ricer lol:bash:

[Matej]

well, why couldn't I just twist 2 wires together and tape over them?
Same thing, right?
http://media.digikey.com/photos/Molex/19160-0043.JPG

[JdM_JunKiE]

oh And Brian i have a solder gun and solder LMK if you need it hahahaha

[r-b-x]

http://media.digikey.com/photos/Molex/19160-0043.JPG

ahahah

why are people so big up on soldering? there are so many solder-less options that are much easier and cleaner.

[ryguy]

ahahah

why are people so big up on soldering? there are so many solder-less options that are much easier and cleaner.

I usually use butt connectors, but soldering is much, much stronger and nicer looking, especially when you use shrink wrap.

[chibo]

ahahah

why are people so big up on soldering? there are so many solder-less options that are much easier and cleaner.

Because it's the proper way (when done CORRECTLY)? :s101:

[chibo]

ps: most of the folks here have already answered your question, although almost every answer was technically incorrect. to sum it up, you can either go with a solid state flash module, 2-wire flash module, or just patch-fix your problem by adding load resistors.
Among other problems with my post, I forgot that the resistance will change a great deal when the filament is hot. :duh:

edit: Fuck, edit, not reply.

[lflkajfj12123]

http://media.digikey.com/photos/Molex/19160-0043.JPG

my kouki tails and ganadors are NOT wired with these

sup

[BustedS13]

ahahah

why are people so big up on soldering? there are so many solder-less options that are much easier and cleaner.

soldering is not even remotely difficult, and, when done properly, looks much cleaner. twist connectors are awesome if you want your wiring to look like it belongs behind an access panel in your kitchen

[usajdm]

Plus, single strand components such as resistors and l.e.d's are not meant to be crimped due to "breakage" of the line.

[ixfxi]

seriously............

i consider myself a professional in the field here..........


and i have NO FUCKING idea what people are talking about. crimping, variable resistance, twist connectors (which are for SOLID WIRE), i mean........


i just dont understand what the hell is going on here. are you guys purposely trying to fuckup this thread with bad advice? where the fuck is russ, i feel like i am in the Bizarro world.

[lflkajfj12123]

you motherfucker you mike

WHAT IS RIGHT IN THIS WORLD?

please shine the light!!

[chibo]

Yeah. I suggest you just plug a bunch of LEDs in behind your others, eventually it has to make the little glowing electric thingies travel slower and make your lights blink slower, right?

[ixfxi]

you motherfucker you mike

WHAT IS RIGHT IN THIS WORLD?

please shine the light!!

stock rocks


Yeah. I suggest you just plug a bunch of LEDs in behind your others, eventually it has to make the little glowing electric thingies travel slower and make your lights blink slower, right?

actually, you have a good point. if you can link enough shitty LEDs in a chain to consume ~2amps per turn signal, then you'll eliminate the quick blinking symptoms.

i estimate, you're probably looking at a good 50 or so of these plug-in LEDs, which at say 10 dollars per pair, you're looking at ~250 dollars in parts. which of course, does not include labor and will result in an inferior product. which of course, you may want to just consider buying my product which doesnt have these problems.

[iLOVEmyS13]

aside from looking cleaner, soldering directly helps reduce resistance that you would get using connectors or splicers.

[Matej]

my kouki tails and ganadors are NOT wired with these

sup
My stock tails are.
So is my cluster.
And my stereo, high beams, and a bunch of random wires.

Did that after I grew weary of soldering.

I like to think that one day I will go back and finish soldering everything.
I probably won't.

[ESmorz]

my kouki tails and ganadors are NOT wired with these

sup

My under-glo looks like it was wired by Simple Jack.

Suck on that.

[arkive43]

you went full retard didn't you....

[theslows13]

or you buy higher end led replacements with built in resistors....

way to overcomplicate things

[lflkajfj12123]

hey MAN

not everyone is as SMART as you

links to said built in resistors would be nice

i wire everything with the gold old splice and tape maybe put a lighter to the tape if i'm feeling frisky

[projectRDM]

seriously............

i consider myself a professional in the field here..........


and i have NO FUCKING idea what people are talking about. crimping, variable resistance, twist connectors (which are for SOLID WIRE), i mean........


i just dont understand what the hell is going on here. are you guys purposely trying to fuckup this thread with bad advice? where the fuck is russ, i feel like i am in the Bizarro world.

I gave up on the first post.

Plug in LEDs, butt connectors, wirenuts, zipties to secure body panels, it's the 240SX owner's way. People love to go janky these days, I'm not going to try and steer them right, it's pointless.

[awesomenick]

My car came with a bunch of wirenuts....

Luckily that wiring is eliminated now. I'm surprised my car didn't catch on fire from the wiring crap it has.

[lflkajfj12123]

i hope mine starts on fire

[awesomenick]

If you're using wirenuts the same way the previous owner of my car did....

It's only a matter of time.

[Matej]

Burning wiring is no fun. :(

[lflkajfj12123]

it will be when its MY CAR on fire

KOUKI TAILS N ALL

[awesomenick]

http://www.yodawgyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/yo-dawg-i-herd-you-like-flames.jpg

[Matej]

Can someone make my headlights go up and down again, please?

[chibo]

i hope mine starts on fire

:rofl: I say the same thing every day

[anton1o]

Pretty easy thing to do i wired my S14 corner parkers to be indicators because i dont want front bar indicators..

Just threw in a 5ohm resistor off the top off my head which added another few watts tollerance which makes the Flasher Relay Unit actually think it has the right amount of load and now the lights flash at the correct speed.

You can get No Load flasher relay units which is what trucks use, because they have a million globes they really cbf having to make sure they are all working or else if 1 dies they need to go thru every single globe on the vehicle :)