what to buy, 240sx or 300zx? help me decide

[car-less]

this is musclesgabe from along time ago if anyone remembers me but i totaled my 95240sx and its time to buy another car.
i really loved my 240 but i think i might splurge alittle bit and go for the 300zx. in my opinion i think the 300zx looks better than the 240sx.
but i was wonder what would be quicker and better handleing, and longer lasting.
my friend used to have a 92 or 93 300zx with exhaust and it was an automatic, and i raced him with my stock stick shift 240sx and beat him pretty bad. he told me reasently that i should go for the 300zx v6 2+2 that he had but get a stick because it would have beaten out my old 240sx.
what are your experiances with 300zx's and 240's?
by the way buckle up, if i hadn't i wouldn't be here to write this

[Bbandit]

it depends on your budget actually
also think about insurance
240sx is cheaper for insurance rate

performance wise.. 300zx is definetaly better stock vs stock
but the handling for 300zx looks a bit sluggish
i've seen some 300zx's having a hard time dodging those cones at autoXes... but then again it depends on the driver...

300zx does look better than 240sx IMO
if it wasnt for the price, maintanance cost, and the insurance i would get myself a 300zx

[M.Piedlourde]

Since you've already experienced the 240, why not try something different this time and get the 300? They're at the point now where they're old enough to not depreciate very quickly any longer, so you can always sell it and not take much of a loss if you end up not liking the car.

[drift freaq]

Ok sum some things up here.
First, what are you looking for from the car?
this question determines a lot about the particular cars. Big differences in the way they handle and performance wise
Second , do not get a 2+2 its a tub. period. imho

Ok now , do you want a Twin turbo ? Good reason to buy the 300 . Do you have more cash to work with? 300's are a lot more expensive to maintain and work on due to a number of factors.
The engine bay is quite cramped and a lot of stuff is unaccessible, i.e. this is where the extra cash comes in, to pay some one to do work that is impossible for you. Unless you have a full shop to work with.
High speed handling on the 300 is excellent, low speed the 240 owns it. Its why in Japan the 180 outsold the 300 10-1.
Turbo your KA or Put in a SR your 240 will move like a 300 although not as torquey. (RB time :D ;) ) hehehhehehhe
If you really must have the 300 based on looks then get it. I do like my car to look like something I like. Given that I am a big fan of S13 Fastbacks. They have a very classic Nissan sports car look. I like that. Some people would say its dated. Its all your opinion.
If reliability was not a issue I would take a FDs3 over a 300 in a heartbeat. I also would take a 3rd gen MR2. Actually come to think about it a 3rd Gen MR2 just kicks ass in Turbo version . Ok, yes again, I am 3rd gen MR2 biased having been able to drive one for awhile . :D ;) hehehhehehhehehe
So you see you need to weigh your options and think about what you want!
you can get our opinions but in the end its gonna be your decision more than any thing .

peaceout
trying to be a kindler gentler drift freaq , hehehheheh:D ;) :cool:

ya right!!!

[PabloHoney]

Originally posted by drift freaq
High speed handling on the 300 is excellent, low speed the 240 owns it. Its why in Japan the 180 outsold the 300 10-1.


I think the main reason the 180 outsold the Z was because it was almost half as much. Price was the main reason the Z never sold so well. Hell, they made like 40 thousand the first year, less than half that the second year, then less than 10K every year after that.

If you plan on getting a 300ZX try for a 94-95, but not the 96, as it's super super rare, and it made 20 less horse than the other years.

[doritaka]

I would take 240. 240 is much easyer to work on it than ZZZZZ. also you can find 240 in most of junk yards.

[car-less]

now im thinking i might just get another 95, or a 97 or 98 if i can get my hands on one and lower it with eibach sportlines and some tokico blues and then maybe stick an intake and get a muffler shop to bend me some pipes and put the old muffler and hi flow cat i had on it, and then maybe tint the windows cause is hot as hell in louisiana and it also looks better.
any opinions on that?

[robinlow88]

I think you should only consider 300ZX TT and 240SX.

The 300ZX TT is so much better than the normal 300ZX.

.....

Do you like 6 cylinder or 4 cylinder?

With the right turbo, etc.. 240sx can be as fast as the 300ZX TT.

[hookedup240]

Originally posted by car-less
now im thinking i might just get another 95, or a 97 or 98 if i can get my hands on one and lower it with eibach sportlines and some tokico blues and then maybe stick an intake and get a muffler shop to bend me some pipes and put the old muffler and hi flow cat i had on it, and then maybe tint the windows cause is hot as hell in louisiana and it also looks better.
any opinions on that?

sounds like a good idea, have fun trying to find a 97-98 kinda rare.

Also, tinting the windows makes it hotter from my experiences.
I've learned never to touch my rear windows in the summer, they get so ****in hot its rediculous, damn 5%.

[blatch]

I'm sure it's been said, but you have to question what kind of driving style you like. 240's are quick and nimble because they are light. 300's are quick, not-as-nimble, but faster at the price of weight.

[RanciD]

Originally posted by drift freaq
Ok sum some things up here.
First, what are you looking for from the car?
this question determines a lot about the particular cars. Big differences in the way they handle and performance wise
Second , do not get a 2+2 its a tub. period. imho

Ok now , do you want a Twin turbo ? Good reason to buy the 300 . Do you have more cash to work with? 300's are a lot more expensive to maintain and work on due to a number of factors.
The engine bay is quite cramped and a lot of stuff is unaccessible, i.e. this is where the extra cash comes in, to pay some one to do work that is impossible for you. Unless you have a full shop to work with.
High speed handling on the 300 is excellent, low speed the 240 owns it. Its why in Japan the 180 outsold the 300 10-1.
Turbo your KA or Put in a SR your 240 will move like a 300 although not as torquey. (RB time :D ;) ) hehehhehehhe
If you really must have the 300 based on looks then get it. I do like my car to look like something I like. Given that I am a big fan of S13 Fastbacks. They have a very classic Nissan sports car look. I like that. Some people would say its dated. Its all your opinion.
If reliability was not a issue I would take a FDs3 over a 300 in a heartbeat. I also would take a 3rd gen MR2. Actually come to think about it a 3rd Gen MR2 just kicks ass in Turbo version . Ok, yes again, I am 3rd gen MR2 biased having been able to drive one for awhile . :D ;) hehehhehehhehehe
So you see you need to weigh your options and think about what you want!
you can get our opinions but in the end its gonna be your decision more than any thing .

peaceout
trying to be a kindler gentler drift freaq , hehehheheh:D ;) :cool:

ya right!!!

This is a little off topic but the third generation MR-2 is not available with a turbo stock. It's got a 138hp VVTi engine.. don't remember the actual name of it.

Anyway, I would go out and test drive a couple 300zxs and then make your decision. Just buy whichever you enjoy driving more. Unless you've got specific goals in mind like running a certain class in autocross then either one should be fine, assuming you've got the money to support them.

[toddnappi]

a hks turbo kit for the 3rd gen mr2 will run you $10k.

everything comes down to opinion. go drive em all!

personally my dad has a mk1 mr2 sc i would take that over anything i've driven to date. my 2nd gen rx7 aint that bad either, if it was running reliably.

[car-less]

i don't plan on doing any moter cross or anything like that, or putting on a turbo. acctually im a collage student and i deliver as a part time job.

[CoasTek240]

get a 300zx... 240's are ghey and everyone has em. just look @ the amount of people that have them on this forum alone.

[240silvia]

Well, it all depends.... If it's a turbo 300, get that, if not, I'd get a 240. All depends on what you want though. To me 300's that aren't turbo's are useless.

[misnomer]

Meh, test drive them both. That's the only way to decide. . .

[car-less]

thanks for all the opinions but i think i am going to have to just test drive them both, but the trick is getting someone to let me get on it hard when i drive it......

[car-less]

hey i found a 90' 300zx with 55,000 miles on it. its a stick and the interior is in very good condition, as is the engine. the only problem is that the right front panel has been replaced and needs paint job and the rear right side has about a basketball sized dent in it that could be pulled out. i was looking at blue book value on this and i didn't ask him if it was a gs coupe or gs 2t2 coupe. whats the difference? and what do you guys think i should pay on this car taking out the cost of getting the dent fixed and painting the panel?
thanks

[car-less]

nevermind i found out. means back seats. this doesn't have back seats. so what do you think abotu the price?

[BeatJunky]

Originally posted by car-less
nevermind i found out. means back seats. this doesn't have back seats. so what do you think abotu the price?

WTF is it? ...(the price)

[nocomedown]

Originally posted by CoasTek240
get a 300zx... 240's are ghey and everyone has em. just look @ the amount of people that have them on this forum alone.
that may be partially because this is a 240sx forum...i may be way off base with that one though

[driftk2000]

IMO__IMO__IMO: Why 300zx? Exterior is not all that; I think it's ugly(my opinion). About 600 pounds heavier.. Correct me if I'm wrong. And I think s13's are a much sexier car even without a major body kit like GP Sports. You can at least throw add on lips from PDM racing or something to enhance the looks lightly. We 240sx owners strip these 300zx's for their brakes, engine parts, VLSDs and some even take the motorset.
I personally like the aftermarket and JDM products for 240's.

[M.Piedlourde]

Originally posted by car-less
i was looking at blue book value on this and i didn't ask him if it was a gs coupe or gs 2t2 coupe. whats the difference? and what do you guys think i should pay on this car taking out the cost of getting the dent fixed and painting the panel?
thanks

GS? GS 2t2? What is that?

There is no 300ZX GS. It's just 300ZX, or 300ZX Twin Turbo (which is the only model you should be considering). I think you mean 2+2, not 2t2, which you correctly discovered means 2 more seats. The TT only comes in the 2-seater model. I wouldn't even bother looking at 2+2s. The car is heavy enough as it is, and doesn't have nearly enough grunt without the turbos.

As to the price, what is the guy asking for it? That'll give us a much better idea as to what you should be offering.