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handinpants
07-15-2009, 05:13 PM
wow after reading that post about proto motoring and hearing mixed feelings from peoples experience i googled them, and saw the services they offer.
then i checked the California Bureau of automotive repair to see where they stand as a shop and I find out that they have a delinquent BAR license, which means they are not legally operating their shop. how can they not renew, its already july 2009.
wow thats not shady at all.... i was going to post this info in that other thread buy phlip locked it.
here's the info i got
BUREAU OF AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR
Licensee Name:PROTO MOTORING License Type:Automobile Repair Dealer License Number:252649 License Status:Delinquent Definition (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:windowOpener1%284203%29) Expiration Date:October 31, 2008 Address:5885 JURUPA AVENUE #C & D City:RIVERSIDE State:CA Zip:92504 County:RIVERSIDE Actions:No Green Station: N
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http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?P_LICENSE_NUMBER=252649&P_LTE_ID=1101
someone should report them..
zenki.life
07-15-2009, 06:00 PM
hmm. this may be useful. thats why you should just learn how to work on your own car....or know someone who does. lol
s13 @ fullboost
07-15-2009, 06:03 PM
Yeah I have also heard mixed feelings about them. I am sure some people will find this info useful
kushlivin
07-15-2009, 06:13 PM
because their broke simple as that... Lets leave this alone already
udon!
07-15-2009, 06:14 PM
fuck these guys. They dont have a dollar to thier name, I know someone who bought a car from them and found out its 2 different cars WELDED TOGETHER, and they would not take it back. another situation is that i know someone that was promised a completely rebuilt ka and when he got it he drove home and found out it had a blown headgasket.
theres countless problems that have risen from these butt-fucks, its not even funny. I had a friend call proto and tell them that there were threads on zilvia about them. then that faggitass motherfucker James just laughed along with a guy named dennis about the whole situation. there like dude we could care less.
all in all, just stay away. you have a better chance of trying to buy a used car from someone else, as well as do work.
t's-s14
07-15-2009, 10:23 PM
Hahahaha!!!!!!!! He does evey thing the back door way lol! Hes to broke to renew it probly!
I hope proto goes out of bussinesse for good!
Fries
07-15-2009, 10:25 PM
I don't know anything about them, but from what I've read on the site...
Don't go.
P.s. I live in Kansas.
s14_driver
07-15-2009, 10:43 PM
fuk proto when i was looking for an s14 people told me about them so i went and they wanted 10,000 for a 97 240 with a stock ka with salvage title, the interior sucked and the body kit was cracked every where dash was cracked
and from what other people have told me all of there cars are half assed
Matej
07-15-2009, 10:47 PM
I know someone who bought a car from them and found out its 2 different cars WELDED TOGETHER,
Haha, that is awesome.
Ben G
07-15-2009, 11:01 PM
fuk proto when i was looking for an s14 people told me about them so i went and they wanted 10,000 for a 97 240 with a stock ka with salvage title, the interior sucked and the body kit was cracked every where dash was cracked
and from what other people have told me all of there cars are half assed
oh they dont even half ass it maybe a sixteenth if that
duffman1278
07-16-2009, 01:56 AM
Sadly, people STILL continue to go to these shops for some reason or another. I just don't understand why?
I mean if you search PROTO MOTORING into google you'll automatically come up with some threads about how they scam someone.
I guess some people just don't use the internet to research shops before they get work done there.
nissan240
07-16-2009, 02:05 AM
haha. if you guys didnt know they actually are just a bunch friends working on cars in the backyard now! i ive been there! i think their shop closed down use to be riverside but now all of their cars is in one of their house in san bernardino. they are a bunch of shady guys, i hear bad stories about them! dont let them fix your car, ive even heard stories that after fixing your car they'll come and steal your car, strip the shit out of it. someone should do something about it though! there are at least 5 to 10 stripped 240sx in their backyard, you guys can see it driving on the side of the streets.
s14_driver
07-16-2009, 02:30 AM
haha. if you guys didnt know they actually are just a bunch friends working on cars in the backyard now! i ive been there! i think their shop closed down use to be riverside but now all of their cars is in one of their house in san bernardino. they are a bunch of shady guys, i hear bad stories about them! dont let them fix your car, ive even heard stories that after fixing your car they'll come and steal your car, strip the shit out of it. someone should do something about it though! there are at least 5 to 10 stripped 240sx in their backyard, you guys can see it driving on the side of the streets.
yea my bro told me that one of his friends friends bought a car from them and he ended up getting pulled over within the week for driving a stolen car
DataXUnknown
07-16-2009, 02:34 AM
hmm, do you guys think we could actually find some of the stolen cars from zilvia in their backyards?
charlie321
07-16-2009, 02:41 AM
yeah, also, those of you that know of Expo motors, they are the same company! Becareful. a buddy of mine bought a car from there, woke up to find that some people were trying to break into his car, and verified that it was one of the workers before they fled. Do not associate with Expo or Proto!
s14_driver
07-16-2009, 02:47 AM
hmm, do you guys think we could actually find some of the stolen cars from zilvia in their backyards?
shit you might
they probably use this website to scope out peoples rides
ronmcdon
07-16-2009, 03:34 AM
Sadly, people STILL continue to go to these shops for some reason or another. I just don't understand why?
I mean if you search PROTO MOTORING into google you'll automatically come up with some threads about how they scam someone.
I guess some people just don't use the internet to research shops before they get work done there.
Some ppl simply don't have that thought of 'research' ever occur to them.
They might not even learn the hard way.
Lot of times, buyers get all emotionally riled up from anticipating a purchase,
to the point where they don't even behave rational.
Could be 'retail therapy'.
There are a multitude of explanations no doubt.
Questionable enterprises in any industry are always plentiful.
It's more a case of customers screwing themselves over.
There will always be a market for that.
handinpants
07-16-2009, 10:30 AM
Some ppl simply don't have that thought of 'research' ever occur to them.
They might not even learn the hard way.
Lot of times, buyers get all emotionally riled up from anticipating a purchase,
to the point where they don't even behave rational.
.
i've seen it, i've prolly done it too....
are these guys actual car dealers or what? with a used car dealer license? i'm gonna look into that.
duffman1278
07-16-2009, 11:25 AM
It's pretty funny because just after I posted, I did a quick google search and sure enough, one of the first threads on there was about a guy who was pissed because he bought a crap car from Proto for 8000$. All stock 1995 240SX.
So I guess it shows what ronmcdon's said, being played out.
Funny part was that one of the owners posted in the thread and the idiot said that he does not sell junk cars but claimed that because they're old cars and people drift them and race them, that they'll have problems.
Phlip
07-16-2009, 11:36 AM
Be careful, guys... He may come into this thread and offer $500 to someone to tell him where you live so he can come beat you up.
no offense but this has been pretty common knowlege with most people on this forum since 2005. there are countless threads about how proto are scamers.
g-via
07-16-2009, 11:41 AM
Be careful, guys... He may come into this thread and offer $500 to someone to tell him where you live so he can come beat you up.
hahahahaha some people are tools.
and they drive ugly ass FD's
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/mdnwrathchild/akt/101_0184.jpg
udon!
07-16-2009, 12:11 PM
Be careful, guys... He may come into this thread and offer $500 to someone to tell him where you live so he can come beat you up.
he doesnt even have $500
karl wasabi
07-16-2009, 12:14 PM
I bought my first car from them like 4 years ago when I was a newb. The car was a bit overpriced and it didn't really come out the way I wanted it to, and it took a long time for them to "put the car together".
The people there are nice, didn't really think they were shady at all. IDK if they have changed since 4 years ago, but the car I bought from them was awesome up until the point where I wrecked it.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Team DET
07-16-2009, 12:22 PM
hahahahaha some people are tools.
and they drive ugly ass FD's
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/mdnwrathchild/akt/101_0184.jpg
is that the owner's car from proto i seen that car before
blackrms13
07-16-2009, 12:45 PM
I bought my first car from them like 4 years ago when I was a newb. The car was a bit overpriced and it didn't really come out the way I wanted it to, and it took a long time for them to "put the car together".
The people there are nice, didn't really think they were shady at all. IDK if they have changed since 4 years ago, but the car I bought from them was awesome up until the point where I wrecked it.
Just wanted to share my experience.
ive heard a few people talked about how they are good "back in the days"
but things just went downhill...
now all i hear is bad stories
Harris
07-16-2009, 03:05 PM
I don't know anything about them, but from what I've read on the site...
Don't go.
P.s. I live in Kansas.
Come to me instead, if you're in KS, LOL! Fries knows I'll do anything for free as long as you're willing to learn how to DIY. Now, don't send me any PMs about building your motor or what have you just yet. I'm currently in Iraq and I sure won't be able to do much all the way from here.
P.S. I'm not a business owner or anything. I'm just a U.S. service member who is a car enthusiast when I'm not deployed. I love building motors and helping others out, so if anyone ever needs any kind of help, I'd be more than willing to be of help. That's how I started out in the car scene. There were people who helped me out a bit, and I'm just paying it forward. Haha, I used a cliche comment on a car forum! :)
Back on topic, business owners like these are why I feel it is important for us all to learn how to work on our cars as much as we can. Use a machine shop for advanced work, but do what you can on your own. Not only will it keep your costs down, but it'll give you a sense of pride once you turn that key because you'll know it was your blood, sweat and curses that led to having the car of your dreams waiting on you to drive it.
drift_limo
07-16-2009, 06:05 PM
he doesnt even have $500
he better start making that money then
:ssex:
XenoVibe
07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
"Welcome to Proto Motoring where our motto is 'The white race is supreme' "
illvialuver
07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
I went there once when I was first looking for an s14, and I just moved to so cal.
They tried to sell me a zenki se but when I looked at it it was a base model, with an se badge on the trunk, with a salvaged title. the car was lacking every single amenity that makes it an se. I start looking at the other cars, and everything was tripple priced, and some poor fool just bought a car as I was leaving and the car broke down right as it left the drive way.
Shady like a forrest. That is my opinion.
I have heard if you are one of there friends they do good work but if you are dumb they will take you to the cleaners.
bardabe
07-16-2009, 10:29 PM
is that the owner's car from proto i seen that car before
thats the car they had to bring out to race me when i was in high school, after their shop car (fully built awd talon) hood flew open and smashed the windshield. that shit was a hell of a night lol good ol high school days.
DataXUnknown
07-17-2009, 02:21 AM
thats the car they had to bring out to race me when i was in high school, after their shop car (fully built awd talon) hood flew open and smashed the windshield. that shit was a hell of a night lol good ol high school days.
Which high school did you go to? I recall someone telling me a story of this awd talon hood flying open. Didn't know it had anything to do with Proto hahaha
bardabe
07-17-2009, 02:55 AM
lol I went to Rancho Verde High In Moreno Valley. it was a fun NIght, I used to drive an RB S13.
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 06:42 AM
is that the owner's car from proto i seen that car before
this isn't the owners car genius_bet my your life's passion on it_=8)
go grow a bit more_your roots are still above the soil
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 06:47 AM
hahahahaha some people are tools.
And they drive ugly ass fd's
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/mdnwrathchild/akt/101_0184.jpg
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)
g-via
07-17-2009, 10:02 AM
wait. hold up.
repeat that paragraph so it doesn't sound like it came out a 9 year old autistic kid, then try again.
I found the pic on rx7 forums, and it said it was Mike from Proto motorings car. And yah it's fucking ugly, if you like it, that's your own shit then.
OK?
duffman1278
07-17-2009, 11:15 AM
wait. hold up.
repeat that paragraph so it doesn't sound like it came out a 9 year old autistic kid, then try again.
I found the pic on rx7 forums, and it said it was Mike from Proto motorings car. And yah it's fucking ugly, if you like it, that's your own shit then.
OK?
:stupid:Seriously I'm with this guy. WTF does "keep the hot breathe cool mean?"
Cheesy Doriftos
07-17-2009, 12:08 PM
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)derp......
Killa_D
07-17-2009, 12:19 PM
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)
trying to read this shit give me headache :-/
aziankingz
07-17-2009, 12:32 PM
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)
you keep typing like that makes me wanna stab you...
gorgasm
07-17-2009, 01:08 PM
hahahahaha some people are tools.
and they drive ugly ass FD's
http://i426.photobucket.com/albums/pp341/mdnwrathchild/akt/101_0184.jpg
Adams track huh. Yeah ive heard dozens of shady stories about Proto. But who am I to judge.
i never post here anymore, niyon zenki you still make absolutely 0 sense.
Charlie
07-17-2009, 01:23 PM
I went there with someone before and they confirmed on the phone that they had a car that had what all the stuff he wanted(sun roof, power everthing, etc). When we got there their like oh sorry we dont actually have the car, but we have this one its almost like what you wanted(a fucked up POS). So they wasted our time and whole day just to go out there.
fcdrifter20
07-17-2009, 01:40 PM
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)
wait,wait,wait,wait.....wtf did u just say????
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 01:57 PM
wait. Hold up.
Repeat that paragraph so it doesn't sound like it came out a 9 year old autistic kid, then try again.
I found the pic on rx7 forums, and it said it was mike from proto motorings car. And yah it's fucking ugly, if you like it, that's your own shit then.
Ok?
lol_it is not mike's_and your post was a question_not a statement_so you said absolutely shit_
ok_
9 year old autistic kid_that one was hearty_was there some reason i couldn't be 4_3_7_16_drivers age_at least let me drive_you are!_lol_such a cute lil come back_opp no running on to the track now
& yeah_i agree_that (particular) fd does look like shit_but you know_i just (for the life of me) can't figure out why? Maybe its the simpleton carbon bonnet_or the re_amemiya style head lamps_no i got it!_ it's the car behind it huh! No evo should be trailing a pos rotary!
Yeah_thats it huh_how's that for a 9 year old
shall i_try again?
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 01:58 PM
wait,wait,wait,wait.....wtf did u just say????
you like that huh_just let it marinate_you know settle in_
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 02:03 PM
adams track huh. Yeah ive heard dozens of shady stories about proto. But who am i to judge.
I never post here anymore, niyon zenki you still make absolutely 0 sense.
yeah_i should have left it alone_but it is so enticing when you scan back over it_yeah??
shishcabobers
07-17-2009, 02:07 PM
^ What's your point in all of this? That you don't like how some people think the fd is ugly?
g-via
07-17-2009, 02:11 PM
ABSOLUTE HORSE SHIT
yes, please try again. Because I am only giving one more attempt to insult me on the internet before I stop retaliating to your garbled posts.
PHONICS BITCH.
http://www.tutorace.com/assets/images/phonics.gif
I don't give a shit whose car it is. It seems like you've spawned from the same cesspool that Proto has, next you'll be asking people for money to fly over to Canada to fight me. I don't even know what you're trying to tell me, cause you can't seem to find the space bar on your fucking keyboard.
FYI, my 8 yr old cousin can find a spacebar.
Are you defending Proto or whining about the fact that I don't like that FD?
Wait, fuck it. I don't care about your opinion.
Here's someone who cares about your opinion
Here (http://zilvia.net/f/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=1247860904-71c4ca3829f7be465d6dc95e9db81a77edae10e3)
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 02:14 PM
you keep typing like that makes me wanna stab you...
posts like this just keep em coming_its alright_just work on your literacy_or go between the lines_ever heard that?
Team DET
07-17-2009, 02:15 PM
why_do you_write like_this shit_is annoying
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 02:26 PM
yes, please try again. Because i am only giving one more attempt to insult me on the internet before i stop retaliating to your garbled posts.
Phonics bitch.
http://www.tutorace.com/assets/images/phonics.gif
i don't give a shit whose car it is. It seems like you've spawned from the same cesspool that proto has, next you'll be asking people for money to fly over to canada to fight me. I don't even know what you're trying to tell me, cause you can't seem to find the space bar on your fucking keyboard.
Fyi, my 8 yr old cousin can find a spacebar.
Are you defending proto or whining about the fact that i don't like that fd?
Wait, fuck it. I don't care about your opinion.
Here's someone who cares about your opinion
here (http://zilvia.net/f/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=1247860904-71c4ca3829f7be465d6dc95e9db81a77edae10e3)
hey now_no need to get bitch_
i'm sure your cousin is a great 8 year old_funny though a year younger than the shit you were typing over the autistic way i (wrote)_tisk_tisk_keep yah family out of your bouts especially helpless young boys_this is grown man business_i don't take offers to waste my time to fly up to mapletown & beat you down when i can handle it (write) here playboy_just a simple dispute_over a simple car_you couldn't take it_proto left this conversation a couple posts ago via_& me dealing with the fact that (you) don't like that fd_ok_sure_i'll eat that_but in the near future_keep your simple ass hatin' to yourself_unless you're willing to put your (car) up on the chopping block to be compared to a car you're calling shit. You like cars i gather well_this is (ironically) one you (ironically) can't stand?_hmm_sounds a bit whomp whomp to me mr. G-via
____i'm done
NI_YON_Zenki
07-17-2009, 02:29 PM
why_do you_write like_this shit_is annoying
so you could_annoy_yourself_trying_to_figure out why my style is_sooo_annoying_to_you_push on
g-via
07-17-2009, 02:30 PM
hey now_no need to get bitch_
____i'm done
that's all I could interpret from your post, but cool. Cya later (playboy)?
hahahaha kids these days and your rap music
back on topic?
Team DET
07-17-2009, 02:32 PM
so you could_annoy_yourself_trying_to_figure out why my style is_sooo_annoying_to_you_push on
hahah this guy is too cool
zugoi
07-17-2009, 02:40 PM
this is hilarious. Im pretty sure hes using a translator to post.
ThatGuy
07-17-2009, 02:41 PM
Stop typing underscores into your posts.
Charlie
07-17-2009, 02:41 PM
posts like this just keep em coming_its alright_just work on your literacy_or go between the lines_ever heard that?
What I don't get is there are times when you do use the space bar, and then you just go ______ it just doesn't make sense. Are you using some translation crap because you don't know english? :wan:
Maximamike
07-17-2009, 02:57 PM
What he's saying is unless don't talk shit about someones car relative to their business practices. Also don't talk shit about a car unless your car is up to its level.
/NI_YON_Zenki translator
wgJoY
07-17-2009, 03:06 PM
$20 he's from proto.
ronmcdon
07-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Even Zilvia's bad English is putting Honda-Tech OT to shame, lol.
Some of the writing on here has become disgraceful.
I miss the old days.
handinpants
07-17-2009, 06:29 PM
Be careful, guys... He may come into this thread and offer $500 to someone to tell him where you live so he can come beat you up.
he would he pay me $500 for my address? just to meetup, and fight, i'm soo broke i'll meet up for $500, whoops some ass and take his shoes.
well. if people are stupid enough to pay that much money for a shit car, then proto aren't really scammers at all, the person who bought the car is a dumbass..... the people bought a crappy car with their own will.... not like they make you buy their car..... people get all excited when they are buying something that looks all pretty, i did when i bought my porsche, but i can't afford insurance on it so i leave it in san diego.
Iron_Zenki
08-24-2009, 11:31 AM
Sigh** sad to say but my lil zenki came from proto I bought it from a guy who got it there BUT i think its prob one of the few lucky 240s frame is solid great crappy front bumper a/c lights all worked but the Ka had a butt load of missing sensor's slowly she's a normal 240sx once again
its as if Proto was michael vick
and these 240's were the doggs :/
s13skank
08-24-2009, 01:12 PM
"Welcome to Proto Motoring where our motto is 'The white race is supreme' "
Hahaha what the fck that was funny! Anyways yea it doesnt seem to good to go there. I heard about them but never looked into them.
Tantwoforty
08-24-2009, 01:36 PM
anyone been to the shop thats there now? teckone or something?
bardabe
08-24-2009, 01:46 PM
anyone been to the shop thats there now? teckone or something?
aparently he used to be protos mechanic, now he opened his own shop, ironically he wants to hire me. I wonder why. :ddog:
Tantwoforty
08-24-2009, 01:58 PM
aparently he used to be protos mechanic, now he opened his own shop, ironically he wants to hire me. I wonder why. :ddog:
is he legit?
stealthsr20
08-24-2009, 02:26 PM
is he legit?
Too legit to quit :keke:
RastaS13
08-24-2009, 02:34 PM
Yeah i had a friend that got some work done on her car. they took her brake calipers and sold them after they upgraded her calipers. She was pissed off because she wanted to keep them. They said they lost them. bullshit
anakin0303
08-24-2009, 02:36 PM
I bought a car (91 240sx) from them two years ago....the car was solid and the price good...nothing but love to proto
P.S. but I never got any work from them!!!!!
Grenade180sx
08-24-2009, 02:40 PM
i can only speak for mike from proto, hes a stand up guy. i cant say my voice regarding business because like most of you. i HAVE NOT had any business dealings with them. now childern no more of this he said she said. lets hear from the good and bad dealings with them from customers
roplusbee
08-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Wow. I thought some of the folks on NICO were bad when they typed a post. In this thread, that display makes most idiots look like scholars.
Back on track, I cannot fathom just straight up buying a car without looking it over. That is of course, if you plan on rebuilding it anyway. Hopefully the guy with the underscores can get it together or perhaps use a different translator. That crap sux.
FaLKoN240
08-24-2009, 05:45 PM
God damn, reading all that underscored garbled bullshit typing was fucking annoying.
HyperTek
08-24-2009, 06:18 PM
people who buy cars from proto are fanboys who dont know how to look at a used 15+ year old car.. then go on forums and complain "oh this car was crap because i didnt know what to look for and because my mechanical skills suck I cant tell its a good deal or not".. yes i know proto guys, but way too much bickering here. Relax, do some homework before you go buying used cars.
i wouldnt underestimate ni_yon_zenki, his knowledge goes deeper then your grandmothers hair roots.
ronmcdon
08-24-2009, 10:15 PM
Neon Zenki (or whatever his moniker is) might be knowledgeable about some things,
but that doesn't excuse his god-awful writing & migraine inducing fetish with underscores.
Hypertek, you should work on your 'run on' sentences too.
Try to use more full stops and commas.
Try not use '.....'
We aren't writing Japanese 'Manga' comic books here.
Vision Garage
08-24-2009, 10:50 PM
Whats is going on with the grammer level of zilvians? I didnt understand half the posts on every page. Yes, I know this isnt a freakin grammer or punctuation forum but please make it so your post are legible.
On track with Proto. Went to see a few of their cars since a homie wanted a 240. When we got there, we were checking out the cars. One of their buddies comes up to us talking about how the car just got the kit put on and painted. And how it runs awesome and what not. We check the engine bay and its like hell went lose on it.
96 zenki with KA. 160+ miles, dirty engine bay. And he said 8k and said it was a steal and cars like that one could go for 9k easily.
We just walked away after that.
SochBAT
08-25-2009, 01:19 AM
Whats is going on with the grammer level of zilvians? I didnt understand half the posts on every page. Yes, I know this isnt a freakin grammer or punctuation forum but please make it so your post are legible.
On track with Proto. Went to see a few of their cars since a homie wanted a 240. When we got there, we were checking out the cars. One of their buddies comes up to us talking about how the car just got the kit put on and painted. And how it runs awesome and what not. We check the engine bay and its like hell went lose on it.
96 zenki with KA. 160+ miles, dirty engine bay. And he said 8k and said it was a steal and cars like that one could go for 9k easily.
We just walked away after that.
I was there for this.
Seriously, piss poor shop.
Hell, even RHDDesigns did better.
And thats not saying much.
ClutchOne
07-16-2010, 04:24 PM
Ok first off "Im Sorry for the Old Bump"
I had to Leave My .02 cent in this Thread.
I use to go to Proto Back in the Days-
Im Talking 2004-2007
because they were Close to My House I use
to Hang Out There, I even Went to James (Owner)House.
I Knew Mike(Sales) and Eric (Mechanic).
Those I mentioned were the Only Guys I Vouch for,
Back then they had Dealer Licence and would go
to the Auto Auctions and Get 240s/Imports from there
add some Cheap Wheels and a Kit and Sell for a Profit.
Then also they were Connected though Japanese Importers
and they were getting Decent Motors/Shells/Clips of RHDs/
FULL Sick RHDs that were Imported as Parts Cars-
Some Cars Sold were Grey Market Cars but they Still Sold
as Parts Car, It was Fully up to the Owner/Buyers Responsibility.
Never did Proto Steal Cars or was It a Chop Shop.
They got there Cars from the Auctions Down the Street
on Central ave, or Imported them.
Sure Proto was Hooking Up the Smog for Us Track Guys that
wanted to Drive a SR on the Street, They Hooked me Up and Countless
Others Out There. There Are O.G. Guys Here on Zilivia that
Bought there "Frame" from Proto and Did there Own Mods from There.
Proto Probally Lost there Licence from Hooking Everybody
Up with the Smog and Taking Everyone through the DMV
Process with there RHDs.
Name another Shop in the I.E. that was Doing this back in 2005.
Name another Shop Today that would Risk there Business Licence
to Make It Possible to Daily Drive a RHD in So.Cal.
NOW Its 2010 Im Unsure of Where they are Now.
But I know they are Doing Better than Before being
That The NAME Proto Changed Hands through Owners
Several Times Through the Years So Some/Many had Bad Experances
Due to the Quality of Service Going Down Hill...
Here is a Link with some Pictures I took from Proto Back in the Day.
You can See There Quality of Work in 2006...
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt116.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt117.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt118.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt119.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt121.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt122.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt123.jpg
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h24/JDMCHAT/ClutchThineArt125.jpg
ANY ONE FROM THE 951 AREA!!??? : California Region - Page 2 (http://forums.nicoclub.com/post2415092.html#p2415092)
Today I Stopped By the Shop after Being there for 3+ Years and It was Called
Tek-One Autowerks- Im Unsure of these Guys but I do wish them the Best
Even Though they Quoted me a Price that was far Higher than Proto would.
Here is a Thread I Found on Ziliva They Looking for a Mech.
I hope the New Mech is ASE certified- LOL.
http://zilvia.net/f/south-western-states/309030-tek-one-autoworks-looking-very-experienced-mechanic-technician.html
every time i read a NI YON Zenki post
i think an open poetry night
ClutchOne
07-16-2010, 08:47 PM
ugly ass fd_huh_i find this quote in bad breathe of all the kids scrolling through this site_you are a fortunate one not to catch flak over that_ so i'm giving it to you_where is your vehicle @ put it up on the block_so zilvians can chop it up_then we'll see how ugly your s^#t turns out to be_don't knock fd's_g-via_what is that abbreviation for a silvia of some sort? If it isn't an authentic one_keep the hot breathe cool =8)
Being that Most of those Guys that Kicked Back at Proto were FOBs (Fresh Off The Boat)
It Might Help to Read this Post with an Extremely Heavy Japanese
or Korean Accent ... :blah:
These Photos were Taken By Me at the 2007 NASA TIME ATTACK
California Speedway on March 17th-18th
Mike's Mugen Accord
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt262.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt263.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt270.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt259.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt254.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt253.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt251.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt249.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt248.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt227.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt281.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt217.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt218.jpg
1st Place Finish
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt215.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt213.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt214.jpg
3rd Place Finish
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt211.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt212.jpg
handinpants
07-18-2010, 06:00 AM
gross!!!!
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt263.jpg
who let these old circus freaks out in those shorts, without makeup.? the one one the right has a resemblance to a man's face, and the blond on the left, eh, i'd need a lot of beers, a lot..... but nice shots of the cars man is that a crx pickup truck?
Sam_Well.13
07-18-2010, 09:41 AM
i wonder why they ask for you address @ adams time attack? =X
ClutchOne
08-03-2010, 01:27 AM
gross!!!!
man is that a crx pickup truck?
You Know you would Fuck Both them Chicks Sober-:ghey:
and I Thought I was Bandwagon with a 2007 Join Date.
Your So Trendy you Forgot what Real Track Fitment Looks Like :blah:
stinky_180
08-03-2010, 10:47 AM
protomotoring is gone, that is all. so please stop posting about your fan boy-ness of proto motoring.
ClutchOne
08-03-2010, 11:58 PM
protomotoring is gone, that is all. so please stop posting about your fan boy-ness of proto motoring.
You Slept on the Thread Title-:zzz:
Im Answering the Question.
Proto Motoring is Not Gone.
They have 2 Shops-
a Detail Shop in Riverside off of Arlington ave,
and a Performance Shop in San Bernardino where the 215 and
the 91 meet.
Why am I Still Posting ?
Because Proto Helped me Bring my Junk Yard Status
240sx Back to Life, In that time of them Helping me
Restore the Car I build a Relationship with the People
who work there ... Does that make me a FanBoy ?
Although Not Finished...
This is my 240sx Proto helped me Build.
http://i37.tinypic.com/64ijp1.png
No, I think it makes me a Friend. :drama:
drift_limo
08-04-2010, 04:51 PM
Havent been in this thread in a while...
Im guilty of almost buyin a car from their years ago, but I knew what to look for in those cars. So I decided to not buy. Then again I wasnt down with payin $13k for a s13 coupe with just a front end and some rotas, still KA mind you.
people who buy cars from proto are fanboys who dont know how to look at a used 15+ year old car.. then go on forums and complain "oh this car was crap because i didnt know what to look for and because my mechanical skills suck I cant tell its a good deal or not".. yes i know proto guys, but way too much bickering here. Relax, do some homework before you go buying used cars.
I kinda have to agree with you HyperTek, But also as a seller you shouldnt lie to your customers and say its a red apple when its a green apple. At least thats how I would do business not lie and tell the person that buys the car all the problems major or small. Lets faces those 16yr old fanboys are gonna come on the forums cry'n bc their Initial D car doesnt run good like in the game... Even "grown" men on certain forums *cough*cough cry like little girls bc they buy something used and expect it to be in new conditions lol.
:lockd:
MomentumGT
09-08-2010, 01:35 PM
Being that Most of those Guys that Kicked Back at Proto were FOBs (Fresh Off The Boat)
It Might Help to Read this Post with an Extremely Heavy Japanese
or Korean Accent ... :blah:
These Photos were Taken By Me at the 2007 NASA TIME ATTACK
California Speedway on March 17th-18th
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt259.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt254.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt227.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt281.jpg
1st Place Finish
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt215.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt213.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt214.jpg
3rd Place Finish
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt211.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b120/JDMUNIVERSECARS/ClutchThineArt212.jpg
**Sorry for bumping an old thread. . .I just don't get on here much anymore.
That was a really fun day at the track. Sadly a month later our s13 threw a rod and sits in pieces in my garage :rolleyes: lol.
To contribute to this thread, I know Mike aka "Fingers" for years and he's a pretty good guy. I haven't seen James or Arnold in years (and they've been good to me) so I can't comment on how their workmanship has progressed or digressed since. To everyone, please do your research when trying to pick up an old S-Chasis so you can spot the shady work from actual quality craftsmanship. With the economy in the shiter people/shops are going to be out there in full force to "make" their money, which regrettably, will bring down the integrity of our industry even more.
ClutchOne have we met? Nice pics of our car and brothers. lol.
-Jon
OBEEWON
09-08-2010, 02:36 PM
I love Ni_Yon
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