View Full Version : Stripped interior vs not stripped? adv/dis
vboy720
07-13-2009, 09:21 PM
I tried searching and didnt find anything. If you can do better than me at searching please point me in the right direction. Can we please make this a useful thread vs flaming.
Ok so me and a few of my buddies where talking about cars, and I brought up how instead of doing my full stereo that I was about to put in my car. I was thinking of stripping everything out from behind the driver and passenger seat to the trunk, selling the stereo, and getting coils. The reason why I am now very tempted is because my friends said that after stipping the car, it made a world of a difference.
My friend said he used to race his friends mustang cobra and lose all the time, but after stipping the interior, no extra mods, he would smoke the cobra. He also said you feel so much lighter for example how it flys over bumps and hills, the lighter feeling through turns, etc.
So to set the pace for my point of view. I daily drive this car, every freakin day. But I am the hardcore enthusiast. I dont care about the noises it would make, or even, maybe, the extra gas smell. I dont even have AC right now, and I live in Sac where the weather this time is 100+. I want this car to be at its full potential for track events, or spirited drives.
Now, do you guys that have or have had stipped cars notice a big enough difference in your car, that you think its worth it? My car is really clean inside with no flaws in the interior. Or the guys with full interior, why do you like keeping it? Any oppinions on stipped vs not stripped?
just a heads up, my car is a stock KA, and i am 100% doing a roll cage after my coils/ruca/toe etc mods.
ILoveMyRHS13
07-13-2009, 09:31 PM
I took my rear interior out and never noticed a difference. Not to mention it looks like shit. Full interiors with cages FTW.
Flybert
07-13-2009, 09:31 PM
Strip your interior and you can beat vettes, ferraris, porsches, indy cars, f1 cars, everything. You should listen to your friend.
Taniguchi_Is_#1
07-13-2009, 09:34 PM
if flybert says so, i would be inclined to believe it's true.
tricky_ab
07-13-2009, 09:36 PM
Stripping you interior = Loud as hell...If it's your daily good luck with that...
QuickSpoolSR
07-13-2009, 09:38 PM
the interior peices weigh like nothing...
Matej
07-13-2009, 09:44 PM
..........
MunsonAuto
07-13-2009, 09:44 PM
The weight of the interior in an S13/S14 does not compare to that of a Mustang. These car's are light tin cans to begin with, the interior is no different. I think I saved maybe 35lbs total including removing the rear seats, rear seatbelts, all plastics/carpet and sound deadening. It is definitely louder than before, but I just turn up the radio and tell myself that it's a V8 S13...it's supposed to be loud.
I would say the coilovers are a better investment than the stereo if you're looking to have a good track car/spirited driver. It's really up to you, if you don't mind the added road noise, hearing stones and crap hit the wheel wells in parking lots and the extra gas fumes/smell then I'd say give it a try for a day or two. It takes about an hour and a half to strip the rear of one of these, so at most you waste 3-4 hours *shrug*.
jiggs
07-13-2009, 09:46 PM
How about a full bride interior, nismo harness, full roll cage, and full audio. Jump on the bandwagon
ILoveJDM
07-13-2009, 09:47 PM
ive stripped a few of my cars, 180 hatch, 240 coupe etc
biggest waste of time. no difference other then its louder then hell.
i always usually end up putting the interior back in.
girls also think stripped interiors are ugly as fuck
awesomenick
07-13-2009, 09:49 PM
Mine is like all the way stripped. No A/C. All kinds of lame going on.
I'm slowly buying interior parts to put it back in.
If you change your mind on it, putting interior back in sucks. Taking it out is easy.
Just leave the interior in. No interior is lame.
mikefc
07-13-2009, 09:58 PM
stock interior just feels more comfortable, if you know what im saying?
lazysk8er2
07-13-2009, 10:02 PM
so even sound deading removal doesnt make a difference?
i think the reason of interior removal is that its just less stuff shaking around and rattling n stuff. i have solid mounts all around and i know at idle my interior plastics buzz.
5t341tH
07-13-2009, 10:06 PM
its your car. do what you want.
i keep my interior because it looks nice. no need to gain +1hp to make it look like shit
jiggs
07-13-2009, 10:07 PM
Just keep it, its not that much of a weight diff
I LUV MY S13
07-13-2009, 10:08 PM
interior is wat? 15lbs haha
stripped interior on a car you don't track 100% of the time is stupid.
not only stupid, it looks U G L Y ass hell.
GSXRJJordan
07-13-2009, 10:27 PM
Strip your interior and you can beat vettes, ferraris, porsches, indy cars, f1 cars, everything. You should listen to your friend.
Haha! You da man Flybert. Wait, doesn't your track car have some interior in it too?
the interior peices weigh like nothing...
The carpet and sound deadening do weight a little bit. I'd guess at least as much as the passenger seat.
ive stripped a few of my cars, 180 hatch, 240 coupe etc
biggest waste of time. no difference other then its louder then hell.
i always usually end up putting the interior back in.
girls also think stripped interiors are ugly as fuck
stripped interior on a car you don't track 100% of the time is stupid.
not only stupid, it looks U G L Y ass hell.
Agreed. I bought my car completely stripped, and have been buying interior parts to put back in it ever since.
Interiors are nice. Keep it. I agree with selling your stereo stuff to buy coils though.
kcvpr
07-13-2009, 10:33 PM
According to THIS (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Weight_Reduction) Stripping the interior completely from the doors back is a loss of approx. 75lbs.
BustedS13
07-13-2009, 10:36 PM
huge waste of time. negatives outweigh the good.
replacing the back seat with a shelf, though. now you're talking.
palmdale_mob
07-13-2009, 10:39 PM
I say just take out the passenger seat
You will have more room to put stuff, and your passenger will have more leg room and the seat might be about 30lbs? According to my arm scale
Thats how my car is atm, also it starts to get annoying having to explain to everybody why you took your perfectly good seats + interior
Touge Noob S13
07-13-2009, 10:46 PM
Just strip the trunk if you REALLY want to strip it without looking like shit, otherwise just leave it like it is.
HyperTek
07-13-2009, 10:50 PM
if its a street car, keep the interior... Police will thank you, your girlfriend will thank you, and you will thank you. lol
johnksoy
07-13-2009, 10:52 PM
Don't do it! When I found my car on ebay 2 years ago it said things like stage 1 weight reduction and I was like cool. When I bought the car i only found out he deleted ac lines and halfassed the trunk area. I was eager to take out all the interior behind the driver seat.
So the day I got the car I was ripping the trunk carpet off cause I didnt know better to take it off the right way, thinking of smashing my rear speakers off, taking off panels and seeing holes with wires running through them... That same day I realize that it was stupid and tried to put stuff back together except the rear seat since I was like the last of my friends to get a car and really didnt need to drive people around, but the damage was already done I miss my trunk carpet.
Also If your gonna keep your car for a long time get AC! No ones gonna give you an award for abusing yourself.
BustedS13
07-13-2009, 10:54 PM
I say just take out the passenger seat
You will have more room to put stuff, and your passenger will have more leg room and the seat might be about 30lbs? According to my arm scale
Thats how my car is atm, also it starts to get annoying having to explain to everybody why you took your perfectly good seats + interior
i was just working on the 240 today and had the passenger seat out, and was thinking how i wish i'd had the passenger seat out in high school. flat surface for pizza delivery and i could make people sit in the back. you ever go over a speed bump in the back seat of an s13 hatch? CRACK goes your skull.
HyperTek
07-13-2009, 10:54 PM
Nothing worse than seeing a gangsta leaning bro in a 89 honda civic stripped cuz he thinks its fast.. 240sx would be no different.
palmdale_mob
07-13-2009, 11:06 PM
i was just working on the 240 today and had the passenger seat out, and was thinking how i wish i'd had the passenger seat out in high school. flat surface for pizza delivery and i could make people sit in the back. you ever go over a speed bump in the back seat of an s13 hatch? CRACK goes your skull.
Yeah it frees up a lot of space, I play in a band and I'll just throw in my amp no problem, just sometimes I'll give someone a ride and they will just sit on the floor, like theres still back seats buddy
I haven't been in the backseat of a hatch, but at least you'll get legroom with the chair out, maybe get a little slouch going idk
Nezahualcoyotl
07-13-2009, 11:14 PM
Don't do it. I pulled the rear seats and trunk and instantly hatted it. I put everything back and it took longer to put it back on. Also, I "accidentally" took the rug/carpet thing off of the door panel on my S13 and it looks a bit better but still needs work.
vboy720
07-13-2009, 11:23 PM
Thanks for the input. I really didnt think that stripping the interior made that much of a difference, but when my friend was telling me his experience in stripping his stang, I was shocked. The other reason why I was pondering, was because I thought when you put in a rollcage (most likely autopower) you would have to take out the back seats anways.
But I guess im keeping the interior, putting my saz-3000d, 2 fi audio q's, kinetic hc1400and alpine z3 in. im a stereo junkie :)
No one thought otherwise about advantages of stripped interior eh?
Leo-kun
07-13-2009, 11:24 PM
Yes please keep the interior.
http://i30.tinypic.com/2u5dq3t.jpg
Though if you ant to drop a few lbs...
http://i32.tinypic.com/1t06d5.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/2s1au52.jpg
carnagexxxx
07-13-2009, 11:25 PM
I've had the interior out of my S13 Coupe for about 2 years now. I daily drive it and love it on my 13 mile one-way trip though winding roads to work. I don't mind it at all. I took out everything with the exception of the headliner (don't ask why not). I gues it's like the guys who ride hard-tail Harleys with ape-hangers and nasty exhaust...who gives a shit about comfort when you dig your own ride!
Try not to think so much that you'll be smoking other cars as much as that you DO in fact improve power to weight ratio. When you free up some weight, your engine has less work to do...that being said you aren't going to turn your car into a go cart or something... but it helps a tiny bit.
It is loud. If you have an lsd (i have KAAZ 2-way) you might get a bit annoyed but if you have an exhaust it's loud no matter what. Sure, I've gotten looks, stares, the "why doesn't you car have insides" comments but like I said to some chick I dated once who asked "don't you think girls will not like you because you don't have an interior..." ( and I'm sure there is some on Zilvia who may agree with me on this) I told her "why in the hell would I want to date a chick who gives a damn about my car not having door panels???" Hell, I think the coolest women out there would think it's rad anyway...my girlfriend is hot as hell during a July heat wave and she doesn't give a rat's anus what my car looks like.
Try not to give a shit what other people say man. So long as it doesn't hurt other people, it's legal... live your life, build your car the way that makes you happy, and if people talk shit, tell them that once they give you money you'll give a shit what they say.
drift freaq
07-13-2009, 11:31 PM
According to THIS (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Weight_Reduction) Stripping the interior completely from the doors back is a loss of approx. 75lbs.
LOL he quotes Wikipedia hahahhahhaha. First off you could not have picked a worse source for research material. The weights of those pieces on Wikipedia are most likely done by someone with a fucked up bathroom scale.
The biggest weight factors in a S13 that are easy to remove and replace with something lighter would be the motorized front seatbelt setup (remove them and install s14 belts).
Also the rear seat belts and the rear seat. remove them and you will take out a little weight. The B pillar does not weigh 3 pounds nor do most of the plastic in back.
Seriously unless you are tracking your car constantly, its a waste of time.
To many people I know that do track their cars and stripped now wish they had a car without a stripped interior for street use.
I don't care what anyone here says fact is it does not make a big enough difference in power to weight ratio for street use.
On track it can make somewhat of difference when combined with other mods. On the street well its on you but if you don't go the track often? waste of time.
You will not lose enough weight to make your car into some magical bullet that can kick ass on cars with a lot more power.
Flybert
07-13-2009, 11:33 PM
Haha! You da man Flybert. Wait, doesn't your track car have some interior in it too?
Yeah, I'd have full interior in my car if it wasn't for the fact that I could store more wheels and tools in the back without it. That's the only reason why I tore it out in the first place. Coupes suck like that with their lack of space. Ideally I'd have it like this; sound deadening removed, full interior, but instead of back seats I'd have that Origin carbon fiber seat replacement and speaker deck thing. Keep it classy San Diego.
ronmcdon
07-14-2009, 12:02 AM
I probably added some 50 lbs of sound deading & car stereo to my 240sx recently.
I don't notice any difference at all on the autoX.
you have to figure 70 lbs is barely 2.5% on an otherwise approx 2,800 car.
The difference is neglible at best.
good tunes & quieter ride > wannabe race-car posuer & obnoxious ride.
Ivan Mabatan
07-14-2009, 12:06 AM
im gutted cuz i dont like driving ppl around at least this way i can tell em i have no back seats. also i kinda like the extra trunk room now lol
Cheesy Doriftos
07-14-2009, 12:38 AM
delete....
bruceguy
07-14-2009, 01:10 AM
i bet if we all hit the treadmill, we all lose more weight than the stock plastic interior! HA..
NISMO_tuner
07-14-2009, 01:31 AM
Personally I wouldn't strip out the interior.
I have my daily driver and I like to hit the track but I still have full interior and lots of add ons as well. Interior doesn't weigh too much to begin with. If it is a full track car I would understand why, but for a daily you would regret it after.
My daily driver is an S13 coupe and the only interior missing is in the trunk.
I took out the plastic pieces to fit my rear strut bar and subs. And it was pretty hacked up to begin with. The wooden cover is still there and my spare/scissor jack is untouched. Also I dont get the point of removing your spare (most of the people I know do that). It's actually stupid of them to do that cuz they will eventually need it when their tire goes flat.
DataXUnknown
07-14-2009, 01:37 AM
Unless you can make your stripped interior look like the risky devil s13 one, then do not do it. If it's a track car I probably would though, because it's so much easier to find the wires you need to splice into to install certain things and tuck the wires and all that good stuff. But if it's a daily, then hell no. I mean it makes your car look like more of a "track only" car but it's not worth it...
drift_limo
07-14-2009, 01:56 AM
what are back seats?
DataXUnknown
07-14-2009, 02:02 AM
what are back seats?
A place strictly for love making and good times, which is why we all understand why there are always at least one stain on our S13's rear seats.:naughty:
zenki.life
07-14-2009, 02:15 AM
A place strictly for love making and good times, which is why we all understand why there are always at least one stain on our S13's rear seats.:naughty:
have you ever tried to do anythin in those poor excuse for seats. waaaaay too uncomfortable. with that ridge of uncomfortableness in the middle. you might as well put the seats down in the hatch and writhe around on the rear carpet. 240's are not love making cars.
Teddy
07-14-2009, 02:37 AM
I daily'ed my car just like this with an open-downpipe SR for a very long time.
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/l_95a678f8b46bda7368f30f100ff081fa.jpg
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/43/l_5f48a3928d84f88a8d155006c702de0e.jpg
Sure. It looks cool. It sounds cool. It smells cool.
Does it make a difference? No.
Plus, I just put back all of my front interior including a headunit. I would do the rear as well if it were still my daily, but meh.
Honestly, I would leave it in. Looks much cooler with a classically modded clean interior.
kcvpr
07-14-2009, 02:57 AM
LOL he quotes Wikipedia hahahhahhaha. First off you could not have picked a worse source for research material. The weights of those pieces on Wikipedia are most likely done by someone with a fucked up bathroom scale.
The biggest weight factors in a S13 that are easy to remove and replace with something lighter would be the motorized front seatbelt setup (remove them and install s14 belts).
Also the rear seat belts and the rear seat. remove them and you will take out a little weight. The B pillar does not weigh 3 pounds nor do most of the plastic in back.
Seriously unless you are tracking your car constantly, its a waste of time.
To many people I know that do track their cars and stripped now wish they had a car without a stripped interior for street use.
I don't care what anyone here says fact is it does not make a big enough difference in power to weight ratio for street use.
On track it can make somewhat of difference when combined with other mods. On the street well its on you but if you don't go the track often? waste of time.
You will not lose enough weight to make your car into some magical bullet that can kick ass on cars with a lot more power.All I was trying to accomplish by my post, was introducing SEMI credible numbers to further the discussion of the topic.
Bad source or not, it's more accurate than some of the guesses of weights I have seen in this thread.
For what it's worth, A friend of mine has a stripped S14, and the road noise/rattles from it being striped is ridiculous.(although thats probably because he's a lazy bastard, and doesn't do anything right that's even remotely time consuming)
Nismoknightska-t
07-14-2009, 03:49 AM
i gutted my ls2 s13.. dumbest shit i ever did!! but then again it wasnt my DD.. only a weekend car / street killer..
the only way i would ever gut my car again.. is if it was a full blown track car!
xplicit240
07-14-2009, 04:02 AM
Nothing worse than seeing a gangsta leaning bro in a 89 honda civic stripped cuz he thinks its fast.. 240sx would be no different.
+1 so funny and true. next thing we know the civic guys that bought 240's start putting the cut out in the back because they go so fast that too much drag comes from the bumper
clark
07-14-2009, 07:32 AM
was your friends interior made out of lead?
deadghost
07-14-2009, 08:13 AM
I honestly like my stripped interior, but I actually went through the time (3~4 weeks) of using dry ice, removing the sound deading material, removed all my brown panels (got them in black), used paint thinner and lacquer, repainted it with $200.00 worth of pro paint, and I am in the process of redoing the headliner, shift boot, side panels, and putting in a bride seat. I think its a great investment seeing that I do plan on doing a full color change on my coupe. But I do have AC and the audio on its way.~my 2 cents
Hywarp161
07-14-2009, 08:49 AM
I stripped just the rear half of my car.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd95/hywarp/DSC02641.jpg
my interior was already trashed so it was no loss.
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd95/hywarp/DSC01664.jpg
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd95/hywarp/DSC02644.jpg
But the sound deadening is nice, and when my hatch leaks the water can't rust anything.
drift freaq
07-14-2009, 09:51 AM
All I was trying to accomplish by my post, was introducing SEMI credible numbers to further the discussion of the topic.
Bad source or not, it's more accurate than some of the guesses of weights I have seen in this thread.
For what it's worth, A friend of mine has a stripped S14, and the road noise/rattles from it being striped is ridiculous.(although thats probably because he's a lazy bastard, and doesn't do anything right that's even remotely time consuming)
LOL your an idiot if you think those Wikipedia numbers are better. Why don't you try and weigh some of the stuff your self?
A lot of long term members who have had their cars for a long time are speaking up in this thread.
Yet you seem to dismiss possible numbers they toss out. I suggest you respect their possible knowledge before dismissing them.
You are 17 and a noob. A lot of us have owned 240sx's for 5-10 years or more.
In fact this thread is actually pretty damn redundant as this subject has been discussed numerously in the past.
I suggest you use the search button on the forum for facts next time.
I also suggest tossing the concept of quoting Wikipedia all together, unless you enjoy looking like an idiot.
S-Nation S13
07-14-2009, 10:03 AM
^^^^yup yup to be honest i take mine out not for tha weight but for being the taxi cause i dont give rides to anyone lol i hate when they be asking for rides and dont put in for gas..lol JUST LOOK AT THE GAS PRICES
QuickSpoolSR
07-14-2009, 10:12 AM
A place strictly for love making and good times, which is why we all understand why there are always at least one stain on our S13's rear seats.:naughty:
what are you like 4 ft tall, there is no possible way you can have sex in the back of a 240 hatch
if you drive the car on the road at all keep the interior
if its a track car who gives a fuck.
^^^^yup yup to be honest i take mine out not for tha weight but for being the taxi cause i dont give rides to anyone lol i hate when they be asking for rides and dont put in for gas..lol JUST LOOK AT THE GAS PRICES
Wow go back to school man, seriously.
I keep full interior because I see no need to strip it. My old roommate did it, regretted it later that day. I always planned on keeping stock interior, stereo, and a cage. Fuck compromises.
kuppler8
07-14-2009, 10:48 AM
i have a completely stripped car (bought it that way), with a bc spec 2 and test pipe, with a welded rear end, for a daily, i dont really know if its worth it or not. when i ride in my friends s13 with a full interior its no more comfortable. but thats just me. i have shaved about 300 pound out of the car all together last time i weighed the car i was at 2487 with half a tank of gas (numbers via a corner wights scale system) but still isnt to much faster than any other dohc ka. o yeah i should probly also ad that not just from interior peices i have no a.c no crusie control. nothing all emitions are gone. and i live in western new york, so a hot day for us is like 85.
David B S12
07-14-2009, 10:53 AM
im ona roll with the god damn double posts...
David B S12
07-14-2009, 10:55 AM
its pretty obvious, a track car has no option for interior, and every pound counts... why would you NOT improve your car by a tad just by ripping some carpet out
(i have a battery tie down, lol. that was temp
i keep the front for some comfort, but its all coming out soon, even the dash
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2764.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/100_2978.jpg
kuruptR
07-14-2009, 11:29 AM
i like mine the way it is, the rear seats are ugly as fuck. I'm gonna go cry now because my interior looks like shit.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/bitch407/_MG_9615.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/bitch407/_MG_9617.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c75/bitch407/_MG_9616.jpg
!Zar!
07-14-2009, 11:44 AM
I see a hundreds sticker on the rear stb.
that is all.
BustedS13
07-14-2009, 12:28 PM
I see a hundreds sticker on the rear stb.
that is all.
there's also a couple hundred dollar carbon fiber sheet laying over where the back seats were.
stripped interiors, form over function bro.
sparkyS13
07-14-2009, 12:32 PM
strip interior
Eastside DriFto
07-14-2009, 12:46 PM
Strip the rear and paint it..The back seats suck..They are on good if you are 5 feet tall or shorter. Then leave all the carpet and shit up front in...
Adeadcurrent
07-14-2009, 01:19 PM
To give you an example, I bought an SR'D Coupe off a guy and he stripped the back seat, roof liner, and a few other things.
It looks ugly as sin right now and I am trying to pick up the interior pieces to put it back together. So that's my .02
kcvpr
07-14-2009, 07:58 PM
I think I saved maybe 35lbs total including removing the rear seats, rear seatbelts, all plastics/carpet and sound deadening.
the interior peices weigh like nothing...
interior is wat? 15lbs haha
Think what you want.... But to me It's VERY obvious that the numbers given before my post where complete BS.
I count TWO members with high knowledge(high posts, premium member; likely your definition of knowledge) (higher than what you posses). AND they didn't mention ANYTHING about numbers. Those who did mention numbers, OBVIOUSLY didn't know what they were talking about.
nowhere in my original post did i say the numbers where completely 100% accurate as you are suggesting I did. They are ball park estimates at best.
And BTW YOU are the one who looks like an idiot IMO. You have nothing better to do than bash on people for trying to post some semi credible info. to further the discussion of the thread.
MY age has nothing to do with your argument, yes I am young... possibly younger than most of the people posting in this thread. But it's very obvious even to a "noob" like me, that I am more mature than you.
drift_limo
07-14-2009, 09:06 PM
A place strictly for love making and good times, which is why we all understand why there are always at least one stain on our S13's rear seats.:naughty:
what is love making??
240s have the worst backseats lol
stripped interior is cool and all but it sucks during the summer get really hot ...
i would say keep the front carpet or just the front half on interior, it still looks good ..
dub40sx
07-14-2009, 10:40 PM
My opinion on things.
Striping:
Saves alot of weight when you count up every little piece. I actually bagged all my sound deadening material and got I think just shy of 80lbs outta it all. I cant remember but I was super suprised with it. Ive got like large boxes with random interior goods too like heater stereo stuff, ect. All 3 boxs are pretty heavy but I havnt weighted them. When I get my car registered ill weight it and see what it is.
On the otherhand Ive driven it at 1 event and one 15min drive to a shop. Both times my incab temp had to of been like 100+ easily. Super uncomfortable to drive due to the heat not to mention the amplified sound output that everything makes. When a tire rubs my fender its super loud, tranny is noisy, small rocks and debris hitting the fenders and underside of the car are loud as fuck. And the killer is the exhaust. I put an extra muffler on it to try and tone it down a tad but it didnt do anything for inside the car.
Im at this point considering totally re-installing my interior even doing some dynomat or something. It all depends on the total weight of my car cause that will play a big roll. I dont personally dayly mine and probably wont drive it much, maybe take it out once a month and play around, otherwise its a driveway queen.
I think you will just like yourself better for leaving most of the interior in. You dont realize how nice it is untill you dont have it, then its just anoying as fuck.
gsxr141
07-14-2009, 11:16 PM
+1 on the rocks hitting the underside of the car. it's loud as hell.
kuruptR
07-14-2009, 11:21 PM
My opinion on things.
Striping:
Saves alot of weight when you count up every little piece. I actually bagged all my sound deadening material and got I think just shy of 80lbs outta it all..
80lbs, would be including sound deadening and?
I stripped the deadening and i believe it was 20lbs or less.
charlie321
07-15-2009, 03:33 AM
My car is a daily as well as a track car. I prefer to have full interior. Gutted can look nice like shown in some examples above, teddy's car etc.
Cage + full interior FTMFW ("yeah the back seats are in there, but you can't get into it, no ride sorry!")
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs096.snc1/4710_113555670298_834590298_2776242_1178833_n.jpg
And BTW YOU are the one who looks like an idiot IMO. You have nothing better to do than bash on people for trying to post some semi credible info. to further the discussion of the thread.
MY age has nothing to do with your argument, yes I am young... possibly younger than most of the people posting in this thread. But it's very obvious even to a "noob" like me, that I am more mature than you.
Drift freaq is just trying to lead you in the right direction. Harsh, but in a helping way. No need to insult him like that. He's been around S chassis for a very long time, resulting in alot of experience and knowledge that he kindly shares with all of us. Please keep this stuff in pm's. Mature? lolololol
s14unimog
07-15-2009, 07:27 AM
Keep the interior... Like most have said already, the cars are light and if you start making any power, it won't really matter; honestly, you'll be looking for weight. Plus, once you take the sound deadening out, you hear E-V-E-R-Y-T-H-I-N-G
A thought that you might consider, if you do a cage and have to remove the back seat and surrounding trim. Why not just re-carpet that area. I saw a 911 Turbo once that was done like that and its been my goal to create ever since. I think it looks dirty as fu*k to see cage bars go down to carpet.
burninskulls0911
07-15-2009, 08:01 AM
girls also think stripped interiors are ugly as fuck
the biggest con right there!
Choku_Dorian
07-15-2009, 08:02 AM
Track car - Gut it
Street car - Keep it clean
Dirty interior? - strip it
Clean interior? - Keep it
/thread.
i reduced like 1000lbs of dirt, sand, wet carpet and dirty pennies...
Girls would rather your car look like a race car than Abe Lincoln's graveyard.
(not that i care what girls think, i am married. and my car is 98% track only)
CamryOnBronze
07-15-2009, 08:03 AM
I drive my 240 daily. I stripped the interior when I did the build over the winter, but put it all back in before I drove the car that way. I am now rocking full interior (including hatch panels and carpet) with sound deadening removed and it is a pretty nice ride. The car is honestly pretty quiet- I can hear rocks hitting the fenders sometimes and whatnot, but 240s never had a luxury interior noise level anyway.
I took the seatbelts out of the back seat just to have another reason that no one can ride back there.
zorak
07-15-2009, 08:35 AM
I kept all of my interior in.
I'm also doing a bolt-in cage while retaining most of the interior.
clark
07-15-2009, 09:06 AM
I stripped all my carpet for the following reasons:
1. it wasn't the original carpet anyway, the previous owner terd used gorilla glue and some cheap gray carpet to redo the interior.
2. smelled awful, looked awful. after ripping up all the carpet, i chipped up all the gorilla glue and used fantastic to clean the entire interior.
3. plan on eventually getting new interior from like stockinteriors.com or something like that
4. all my plastic panels are still in, sound deadening is still in
5. I have a coupe and am debating getting rid of the rear seats because from my guesses, the previous owner spilled an entire container of boxed wine on the rear seats (based on look and smell). i plan on making a simple barrier out of wood or something to partition the trunk and cabin area.
i do notice it's a LITTLE louder but again, it's a 240, my turbo and exhaust drown everything out anyway. lol i need a louder stereo.
i daily it, it doesn't bother me...yet
just fuckin strip it, see how you like it, and then you always have the option of putting the interior back in.
mikefc
07-15-2009, 09:22 AM
Only thing i liked about having a the rear stripped was driving when it was wet out because the water splashing in the wheels wells sounded cool... other than that it wasnt my thing.
Like clark said if you dont like having it stripped just put the interior back in.
sparkyS13
07-15-2009, 10:12 AM
does stripped increase fuel mileage
and what's sound deadening because all i stripped was he hatch panels kept the carpet
David B S12
07-15-2009, 10:32 AM
does stripped increase fuel mileage
and what's sound deadening because all i stripped was he hatch panels kept the carpet
its obvious if a car is lighter, YES the gas mileage is increased.... what the fuckkk
why is this thread here, its pretty damn simple, stripping the interior, IS weight, if your going to strip, take it all out... no dash, no hvac no ac no interior... dedicated track cars dont need that shit.... if you are worried... keep your dash... if you cant bear some heat, or if you cant wear a firesuit in the winter keep your ac and heat... but that beats the point... because you need ALL the weight out
why the hell is everyone so interested in keeping there junky nissan interiors? u realize its cheap ass non luxury shit right? go buy a beamer lol
and to the people, not liking to "hear shit".... on a track car its a good thing to be connected to what exactly is going on with the car, listing to the chassis flex, the exaust, anything caught up in the wheel, etc..
if its a "street car" put your ebay intake and exuast on and just drive it... dont strip the interior... anddont add any more race modifications so you can drive it around town for no reason.... and waste good parts... and if you want modifications like that for street racing... my opinion street racing is stupid... unless your in a vacant state
ive seen 240's weight brought down to the lightness of a corolla.... after lots of weight loss.... imagine that, how much gain you get from putting a sr, or kade into a corolla, but thats after, light fenders get put on... the quarter panels get cut up and lighter overfenders are placed on, truck support is cut, hood support is cut, holes in gussets, rear hatch replaced with lighter one, or none at all, etc.. removal of interior, is the first step, and is the cheapest
HunsakerS14
07-15-2009, 10:59 AM
its really up to you.
I have sort of a stripped interior, well really all I did was remove the back seat, and instead of having that bare metal show I put down some carpet. did a few years back because I didnt want a back seat, really quite pointless in a 240, but i didnt want the look of shit metal. so here's what i did. hate or appreciate aint no biggy. also I recommend if you dont all ready, get a black interior. I've switched mine over and its just really so much better looking.
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/Whitethunder88/100_0580.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/Whitethunder88/100_0579.jpg
compared to
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/Whitethunder88/S14/100_0592.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/Whitethunder88/100_0593.jpg
my .02
DALAZ_68
07-15-2009, 11:07 AM
Strip your interior and you can beat vettes, ferraris, porsches, indy cars, f1 cars, everything. You should listen to your friend.
I KNEW IT
if flybert says so, i would be inclined to believe it's true.
EXCATLY, hes been here since 03...OG's know stuff
girls also think stripped interiors are ugly as fuck
thats why u have a track car AND, a DD...lol
According to THIS (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification/Weight_Reduction) Stripping the interior completely from the doors back is a loss of approx. 75lbs.
include the weight of the AT seatbelt assemblies,rails,center console ecu (under the rear center console area), belts that come from the carpet, thats roughly another 25 pounds of weight roughly...most likely less...so in total maybe 90 or so pounds...maybe 100 if u take off sound dedening...
the only car i see a reason for stripping is the hatch...TIRES GALORE, i wanna say, with removing the pass seat, u could stack maybe 2 full sets of tires in the hatchback...
and u want to take off the sound deadening, during summer heat it is an annoying sticky mess...
DataXUnknown
07-15-2009, 11:33 AM
what are you like 4 ft tall, there is no possible way you can have sex in the back of a 240 hatch
haha I know. It's been tried. But I just noticed how there is always a stain on S13 rear seats from something so I just made up that excuse.
Mr. Insurance
07-15-2009, 12:19 PM
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jbuckley
07-15-2009, 01:05 PM
stripped ugly unless its a nice car
full interior for everyone else
dahveed
07-15-2009, 01:23 PM
the only thing i've taken out my S13 are the backs seats, because they were in horrible shape lol. i just left the carpet that attaches to the back of it to cover the metal lol
BustedS13
07-15-2009, 01:49 PM
I would keep the interior if you plan on keeping it as a street car. Having a back seat can be nice when you need to give people rides and you all want to drive together.
fuck that. if more than one other person is going anywhere, let a guy with a sedan drive. everybody has "that friend" with the family car.
ronmcdon
07-15-2009, 03:37 PM
Rear seats on the S-chassis are more or less non-functional.
It's not like anyone other than a small child/dog can fit back there comfortably anyhow.
I just see the rear seats as additional sound deadening.
seems like being intolerant of loud cars, just comes with old age.
DALAZ_68
07-15-2009, 05:00 PM
fuck that. if more than one other person is going anywhere, let a guy with a sedan drive. everybody has "that friend" with the family car.
agreed, theres always someone...
s14driver
07-15-2009, 05:08 PM
Woudnt you rather whope someone in a race or on track, meet the fools you just owned, have them look at your car and see that you got all your interior, ps, and AC for the way home?
usdm180sx
09-03-2009, 04:49 AM
Finally installed my cage WITH interior panels. I'll take better pics tomorrow:
Before panels:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/usdmsilvia/DSCN0329.jpg
After:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/usdmsilvia/DSCN0338.jpg
I missed by about 1/2" on the right side. Oh well:
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/usdmsilvia/DSCN0339.jpg
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/usdmsilvia/DSCN0343.jpg
ixfxi
09-03-2009, 08:47 AM
Finally installed my cage WITH interior panels. I'll take better pics tomorrow
you realize that with a fucking CAGE, there is no benefit to having a rear interior or driving the vehicle without harnesses? anyone in the back can get seriously injured if they manage to hit that cage, and the front should be strapped in as well to prevent that.. so harnesses are a must. and if you run harnesses, there is absolutely no excuse for having rear seats, because then your rear passengers cannot get out since they are blocked by the straps.\
ditch the rear shit...
I would keep the interior if you plan on keeping it as a street car. Having a back seat can be nice when you need to give people rides and you all want to drive together.
and you... mister 1 post. i hope you die, just because your name is Mr. Insurance. I hate insurance.
usdm180sx
09-03-2009, 10:06 AM
Well, I can always remove the diagonal bar to make the rear seats functional. Plus, I need the interior to cover up what's in the trunk.
DALAZ_68
09-03-2009, 10:18 AM
Well, I can always remove the diagonal bar to make the rear seats functional. Plus, I need the interior to cover up what's in the trunk.
all that junk inside ur trunk...:rimshot:
Brian
09-03-2009, 10:33 AM
Looks good Norm!
http://bhworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/mailgooglecom1.jpg NOW
http://media.ziptied.com/members/files/2/1012081528.jpg BEFORE
Brian
09-03-2009, 10:38 AM
you realize that with a fucking CAGE, there is no benefit to having a rear interior or driving the vehicle without harnesses? anyone in the back can get seriously injured if they manage to hit that cage, and the front should be strapped in as well to prevent that.. so harnesses are a must. and if you run harnesses, there is absolutely no excuse for having rear seats, because then your rear passengers cannot get out since they are blocked by the straps.\
ditch the rear shit...
hahahah... HARNESSES. ...in a 240.
lol
Does anybody with a 240 even use the backseats anyways? (for passengers anyways)
Johny5
09-03-2009, 10:43 AM
yes, the other day a friend of mine road backseat in my s14. it was amazing, he said the sub was louder in the back than the front <3
94cc0rd
09-03-2009, 10:46 AM
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_62d1040b9de84912b2c9944f2b914923.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/101/l_83cdd1bcbc424cd9bb59f02abcb451f7.jpg
forrest wang's street car..
full bride interior, full cage, full awesome!
Johny5
09-03-2009, 10:48 AM
lol, he kept my old shift knob :)
streets the shit people
Brian
09-03-2009, 11:12 AM
lol, Forrest's car is "kind of" full interior.
rsibley22
09-03-2009, 11:50 AM
gnarly cage
cemtoes
09-03-2009, 01:02 PM
Well if your gonna strip it atleast do a good job...and if your going to put a cage in you might as well strip it, having a cage and back seats doesn't make any sense unless you aesthetically like the look of having back seats ect ect.
probably one of the cleanest stripped interiors ever.
http://i29.tinypic.com/107s6du.jpg
Brian
09-03-2009, 01:14 PM
having a cage and back seats doesn't make any sense unless you aesthetically like the look of having back seats ect ect.
And that's why we do it.
usdm180sx
09-03-2009, 01:20 PM
unless you aesthetically like the look of having back seats ect ect.
Couldn't have posted it better
Teddy
09-03-2009, 01:27 PM
unless you aesthetically like the look of having back seats ect ect.
+1 I am getting rear seats and interior again for my track car. I already got the front interior.
DALAZ_68
09-03-2009, 02:07 PM
+1 I am getting rear seats and interior again for my track car. I already got the front interior.
i got the rear seats if yah need em :bigok:
ShereKhan
09-03-2009, 02:29 PM
I like having rear seats and i use them for that third person that wants to roll with me. I only stripped my carpet because it was already screwed up and i kept catching my feet on it while shifting. I also took out the top cause my head kept rubbing on it, so i got pissed one night and pulled over and just tore it out. Much more head room :coolugh:
scottie
09-03-2009, 02:55 PM
The car im currently building has a 10pt cage and there really isnt a way to put all the interior back in. If you tie the points of the cage to the best (or legal) way you would have to go through the seats really. Who the hell thinks that would look good or be useful? Secondly we are talking about a f'kin 240sx here people. Since when is the interior in these POS' considered nice? I wouldnt strip a Mercedes or BMW but a 20 year old nissan, I dont have a problem if it gets in the way.
For me personally I like both. Both have some pros and cons about them. I love the look of a race car. I like how its cold, simple, purposeful, flips you the middle finger. But for a DD I would keep it because it does cut out noise, allows others to ride and does cover all the guts of a chassis. If you are going to strip her, you must repaint (not spray canned) in order to execute it properly.
Take the Porsche GT3 RS. I wouldnt strip this thing because of the quality of interior. So I totally get why they did a 4pt cage.
http://image.europeancarweb.com/f/24837926+w750+st0/epcp_0908_02_z+porsche_911_gt3_rs+interior_shot.jp g
scottie
09-03-2009, 03:03 PM
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/65/l_62d1040b9de84912b2c9944f2b914923.jpg
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/101/l_83cdd1bcbc424cd9bb59f02abcb451f7.jpg
forrest wang's street car..
full bride interior, full cage, full awesome!
Im not sure if I like how he chopped the door panels up to get them to fit. Looks good from arm rest up buuuuuuut not sure after that. Maybe if he had cut it a little differently. Just my opinion.
FusionR240sx
09-03-2009, 03:19 PM
pointless to take it out.
waste of time.
just makes the car louder.
sidewaysil80
09-03-2009, 05:34 PM
basically what i do (doing over since i bought my old car back) is its completley stripped (sound deading, insulation, back seats, panels etc.) full weld in cage. painting the ENTIRE interior black. then i'm throwing my front carpet/doorpanels/center console/dash/ kick panels back in. i can't rock a pillars/headliner since the cage but this way looks HELLA clean. especially since door panels and glove box, as well as shift boot/arm rest cover will be black suede.
projectRDM
09-03-2009, 05:51 PM
All this shit is stupid in my opinion.
Stripped interior on a daily driven car is stupid. It does not look cool, it scores no point except with fanboys who, if you're anything remotely worth a damn, you could care less about. Your real friends, family, wife, etc. will all wonder why you just took apart a perfectly good car.
Cage on a street car is stupid. Unless you drive with a helmet, you've just installed a large pipe to kill you in an accident. Nice job.
Cage with interior is stupid. Why cut up good interior parts to fit a cage? Some poor fool out there with brown interior is crying at that moment when you break out the hole saw.
A cage is for a dedicated track only car, meaning trailered to the event, not driven. You guys who track on weekends, you don't count. Track car as in no lights, wipers, etc. And in a track car, you have no interior, period. None of this front only or half way, you have a seat, wheels, and some gauges bolted to the crossbar. If you keep the dash, please hope it's gutted and chopped up.
Using a cage for chassis rigidity is a decent idea as long as it's a 4pt only, and even then it looks silly as hell.
Just my 2cents, Don't want to step on any toes.
Teddy
09-03-2009, 05:55 PM
Quite honestly, who gives a fuck? Surely I do not, and nobody else should either.
Do what you want with YOUR car.
uraznfriend
09-03-2009, 06:05 PM
i dont understand why everyone is hating on the back seat i kno its small but i managed to fit like 5 small asian girls in the back
Matej
09-03-2009, 06:16 PM
Personally I prefer stripped interior, but with all exposed metal covered in polar bear skin.
BoostSlideWayz
09-03-2009, 06:31 PM
for me i stripped the whole thing, but thats only cuz its never gonna be street driven. just track. and yeah i kinda did feel a difference.. i mean.. when i put it all in a pile and tried picking the majority of it up it was really hard to. but for a car you drive to school or work isnt somthing you wanna strip down. but did your friend really strip his whole interior to beat a mustang ? i dont think thats worth it.
lflkajfj12123
09-03-2009, 06:37 PM
full interior
minus rear seats
i'll be placing a deck covered in seude with speakers in it where the dips are for the rear seats
still a clean look and gives me room for anything else
Brian
09-03-2009, 07:05 PM
I await the day when an 18 wheeler hits me head on.
I'm going to totally wish I didn't have my JDM cage.
lflkajfj12123
09-03-2009, 07:07 PM
hey man can i have your cage if you die?
Brian
09-03-2009, 07:11 PM
yeah, you can.
You gotta cut it from my mangled heap of a car though.
lflkajfj12123
09-03-2009, 07:12 PM
should i cut around your brains ?
Brian
09-03-2009, 07:16 PM
yeah, brain matter and skull fragments EVERYWHERE.
Matej
09-03-2009, 10:15 PM
That is why I wear a helmet in my street car at all times.
Just in case.
http://www.beyondmadisonavenue.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Justin-Case-295x300.jpg
JGON85
09-03-2009, 10:30 PM
I say just take out the passenger seat
You will have more room to put stuff, and your passenger will have more leg room and the seat might be about 30lbs? According to my arm scale
Thats how my car is atm, also it starts to get annoying having to explain to everybody why you took your perfectly good seats + interior
I'm feeling the same way, back on Tuesday I had to take some cargo for my work to the airport (dims: 2 @ 26x20x18) and I was able to fit both boxes where the passenger seat and rear seats used to be (such luck as I've been too lazy to put them back in since I took them out to wash them....) not to mention when I bought my 32in hdtv I was able to drive home without having to crush or rip open the box.
And on the plus side, your homies won't bug you for a ride anywhere if you don't have any seats...... :mrmeph:
GSXRJJordan
09-03-2009, 11:22 PM
I'm feeling the same way, back on Tuesday I had to take some cargo for my work to the airport (dims: 2 @ 26x20x18) and I was able to fit both boxes where the passenger seat and rear seats used to be (such luck as I've been too lazy to put them back in since I took them out to wash them....) not to mention when I bought my 32in hdtv I was able to drive home without having to crush or rip open the box.
And on the plus side, your homies won't bug you for a ride anywhere if you don't have any seats...... :mrmeph:
Getting pulled over with stripped interior is bad enough, getting pulled over with no passenger seat will MAKE SURE the cop thinks you're a racer. :cops:
This is the number one reason I'm putting an entire interior back in my car.
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