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!Zar!

07-09-2009, 10:56 PM

Sure, this is a, "California" thing. But the thoughts about the process can be universal.
This took effect on the first of july.

Mandatory Ignition Interlocks. This new law requires Ignition Interlock Devices (IIDs) be installed on vehicles owned and operated by motorists convicted of driving on a suspended license due to a previous alcohol-related conviction.

“There are an estimated 40,000 persons convicted annually of DUI-related offenses who then drive on suspended licenses; further, there were 1,489 people needlessly killed in an alcohol-involved collision during 2007 in California. This law is a major step toward reducing those numbers,” said DMV Director George Valverde.

The DMV must notify the court if you fail to submit proof of installation of an IID within 30 days from date of notice. A person who is required and fails to install an IID is guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than six months or by fine of not more than five thousand dollars ($5,000), or both.

Motorists who fall into the category of driving with a suspended license for a DUI-related conviction will be assessed a $40 administrative fee for verification of the IID installation.
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/interlock-525x350.jpg

This law is now currently in effect for California, but other states such as New York, Jersey and a few others are looking into implementing this law into their system.

DreamN

07-09-2009, 10:57 PM

I like the idea, but at the same time I don't.

soreballz

07-09-2009, 11:02 PM

Good idea, though I'm sure you could just have a sober person breathe into it for you.

...Then again, if you have a sober person around, they should drive for you. lol

I LUV MY S13

07-09-2009, 11:03 PM

yea good idea..but idk u do have to pay for it

BustedS13

07-09-2009, 11:18 PM

BustedS13 hates this shit! California stinks!

ILoveMyRHS13

07-09-2009, 11:20 PM

We have those in PA.

ZilviaKid

07-09-2009, 11:22 PM

lol cali..

its a good idea though, saves lives and what not.

Matej

07-09-2009, 11:25 PM

Wish all these resources were spent on bettering public transportation.

soreballz

07-09-2009, 11:27 PM

BustedS13 hates this shit! California stinks!
THE MIDWEST IS SO MUCH BETTER!

Right?

:goyou:

BustedS13

07-09-2009, 11:30 PM

THE MIDWEST IS SO MUCH BETTER!

Right?

:goyou:

can't talk right now! making meth and taking my sister out to the vaudeville show! then passing out bibles or something!

brndck

07-09-2009, 11:35 PM

i think this is a fantastic idea.
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so then i can get hammered and fart into it and see how drunk my butt is.

kingkilburn

07-09-2009, 11:42 PM

Fuck that. All the problems with the state budget and the economy and they spent their time and our money on this. They are furloughing state and federal(illegally), cutting pay by almost 20% while spending money on this stuff.

I agree with doing more to stop drunk driving but right now there are much more pressing matters.

ronmcdon

07-09-2009, 11:44 PM

I don't think it's a bad idea at all.
It's a small cost to pay, when a device like this could save other's lives from your irresponsible drunks.

It isn't entirely foolproof of course, but it's a move in the right direction.

HyperTek

07-09-2009, 11:45 PM

i think its a good idea tho... i know has bad as it sounds, will save alot of people i think, provided it works properly. Ive known a few people who lost their lives to drunk drivers, it really changes your views on getting smashed than driving.. shouldnt be done, even if its not you and other people are doing it.

HyperTek

07-09-2009, 11:48 PM

im jus curious if this will be retrofitted into old cars... cuz you know there will be police profiling of this "i pulled you over because i wanted to see if you tamptered with your ignition breathe interlock, while im at it, why dont you pop your hood".

Or if some sort of inspection on the device is mandatory, they will probably look for mods as well..

PinkPanther

07-09-2009, 11:48 PM

that's always a PITA when you have to work on someone's car that has one of those on it.

!Zar!

07-09-2009, 11:49 PM

Thing is.

I own more than one car.

As well as others do.

I even have a motorcycle.

So is the state going to put dui shit on all my forms of transportation?

Shit, I have a bicycle.

Are they going to outfit one of these on there too?

I'm all for laws that help. But to me it seems like a stupid law that wasn't too well thought out.

If someone is driving drunk with a suspended licence, what's stopping them from breaking another law and using someone else's car?

s13boy89

07-09-2009, 11:54 PM

my uncle has that he just has his son breathe into it

HyperTek

07-09-2009, 11:54 PM

they should. After all its only fare, they screwed us over on illegal vehicle parts laws, because street racers have killed people, so they should screw us again because drunks have killed people.

BUT than again, this is only for those assholes who have had DUIs who get to have this.. so its not everyone.

KA-Kait

07-09-2009, 11:56 PM

brndck

07-10-2009, 12:04 AM

what's retarded about is this. you have to PAY to have it installed in your car, you have to PAY monthly to have it updated/checked, you have to PAY a fine, you have to PAY for the class. by the end of it all you're paying at least 10,000 is not MORE. it's just.... too damn much.

In all reality I think the program is a good Idea. Would you rather have the cost of the interlock system passed on to the taxpayer? The offender should be the one to pay for their mistake. Driving is a privilege not a right and if you can't follow the rules then maybe this will be enough to prevent some unnecessary deaths.

Matej

07-10-2009, 12:11 AM

People will keep driving drunk and/or on suspended licenses anyway, as long as there is no other efficient way to get around.

HyperTek

07-10-2009, 12:15 AM

guys its all fine, dont fuck up and you wont have to worry about getting that.. it said its to be installed on vehicles owned and operated by motorists convicted of driving on a suspended license due to a previous alcohol-related conviction.

So those people who dont take care of thier shit, shouldnt bother you, and hopefully will help them to not do it.

kingkilburn

07-10-2009, 12:21 AM

In all reality I think the program is a good Idea. Would you rather have the cost of the interlock system passed on to the taxpayer? Theoffernderr should be the one to pay for their mistake. Driving is a privelege not a rght and if you can't follow the rules then maybe this will be enough to prevent some unnecessary deaths.

Do you think the entire cost will be met by the one with the interlock? I'm not just talking the cost of equipment and install but of all the personnel that goes with it.

DALAZ_68

07-10-2009, 12:28 AM

Good idea, though I'm sure you could just have a sober person breathe into it for you.

...Then again, if you have a sober person around, they should drive for you. lol

agreed

and i like the idea...nuff said

mRclARK1

07-10-2009, 01:01 AM

Just wait until the day one of these things doesn't let someone drive to the hospital or something because they used mouthwash within the last couple hours...

I'm all for the idea of finding ways to deal with drunk driving, and even though it's only for those with a previous DUI, this seems a little too much like the government trying to babysit people. Not to mention it's easy to get around. What's next? Some device to make sure I'm not too tired? Too angry? Too old? Another to make sure I'm not texting or talking on my cell phone? Granted none are nearly the problem drunk driving is, but you get my point I hope...

brndck

07-10-2009, 01:11 AM

/\/\ haven't u seen the new BMW ads? They have devices to make sure you aren't too tired, or too grumpy, or to make sure you've eaten a balanced breakfast before you drive.
I'm against big brother, but Ive lost friends to drunk drivers. This system is a step in the right direction.

Toyota actually prototyped a system that measures blood alcohol content by placing your hands on the steering wheel.

Besides cost, where is the downside to a system that prevents drink driving?

S14DB

07-10-2009, 02:51 AM

Souljahzs13

07-10-2009, 03:08 AM

I use to install these at Circuit city when they were still around, and i think its a great idea. If these people obviously got caught the second time around, then they deserve it. There is no reason to drive when buzzed or drunk at all.

Sl3KA

07-10-2009, 04:17 AM

That's gay... my soon to be ex wife might enjoy it though... sorry I don't enjoy blowing things before I can drive it... I just like to cut to the chase - hard driving and safe sex. If it's mandatory I'm sure it won't be too difficult to bypass it :)

Dirty Habit

07-10-2009, 08:38 AM

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Future240

07-10-2009, 08:57 AM

I wish they would bring something like this to GA. In this town about 3 dui's a week are issued, and that is just campus police. Doesn't include county or city.

turbobrick

07-10-2009, 10:46 AM

In arizona you have to get one installed in you car if you get a dui.

blueshark123

07-10-2009, 11:05 AM

i have two words for u "clutch start" im pretty sure most people who know how to mess with cars can disable it eitherways

jskateborders

07-10-2009, 11:31 AM

Yea cali's late on this one, its been around for a while in other states. I remember being outside of a bar like 2 years ago watching 3 or 4 people in their 40's taking turn trying to get this womans car to start with this thing, it was funny because none of them was sober enough to do it.

Brian

07-10-2009, 11:32 AM

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I really mean this.

aznpoopy

07-10-2009, 11:46 AM

Driving is a privilege not a right.

QFT

the interlock system is stupid. expensive and easy to circumvent.

the real problem the pussy ass US punishment system. we need to up the fucking punishment.

singapore has the right idea. 6 strokes by cane.

ravinaziankid

07-10-2009, 01:20 PM

!Zar!

07-10-2009, 01:29 PM

Imagine trying to escape from a thief or someone trying to kill you? You would need to pass that test before your car turns on and you can leave.

I think it would help prevent drunk drivers, but theres always ways around it..like having someone sober blow in it and then the drunk guy drives away.

What are the chances of getting two dui's AND having a murderer chase after you in a situation that has you running towards your car?

Mi Beardo es Loco

07-10-2009, 01:34 PM

If I hop in a car with a chick that has one of those in there.....I already know I'm gunna fuck. giggidy

S14DB

07-10-2009, 01:36 PM

Imagine trying to escape from a thief or someone trying to kill you? You would need to pass that test before your car turns on and you can leave.
Oh yeah, I can think of all the times I thwarted someone trying to kill me by getting in my car and driving away. Damn this cruel world where people are trying to rob and kill me everyday... :bowrofl:

BustedS13

07-10-2009, 01:38 PM

dui me once: shame on you
dui me twice: shame on me

if you get one dui, maybe that was just a slipup. maybe you need to get a serious fine, some points, and a nice hike on your insurance.
if you get TWO dui's, maybe you take the bus for a few years. that's how it SHOULD be. no need for expensive car attachments. move closer to work. get a bike. you're in california, you probably already have a fixie.

!Zar!

07-10-2009, 01:40 PM

Old school dui trick.

Suck on ice cubes to lower your reading.

Noliez.

Antihero983

07-10-2009, 02:48 PM

more importantly....

who is busteds13? never heard of him.

JeremyR

07-10-2009, 04:55 PM

this is a good idea! drinking and driving should never happen. EVER. yet it does anyway. im glad to see it being cracked down on so hard.

BustedS13

07-10-2009, 05:22 PM

this is a good idea! drinking and driving should never happen. EVER. yet it does anyway. im glad to see it being cracked down on so hard.

cracked down on? they're still allowed to drive cars. that's not good enough.

VROOOM

07-10-2009, 05:35 PM

what's retarded about is this. you have to PAY to have it installed in your car, you have to PAY monthly to have it updated/checked, you have to PAY a fine, you have to PAY for the class. by the end of it all you're paying at least 10,000 is not MORE. it's just.... too damn much.

dont drink and drive and you wont have to worry about it. trust me i know a few people that should be alive(not to mention my first 240sx) if it wasnt for damn drunks. make them pay up the ass for being stupid.

sleep

07-10-2009, 06:41 PM

uhm... Come to arizona. Interlocks are mandatory for your first offense, as well as 45 days in jail, and thousands in fines.

Been that way here for many many years.

I have noticed on this forum that californians absolutely love to bitch about their laws. If you don't drive around drunk every night, you have nothing to worry about.

If you don't drive like a moron (teenager), you have nothing to worry about

If you don't drive like a moron with a completely illegal motor/car, you have nothing to worry about.

If you hate the laws in your state, THEN FUCKING MOVE!

Use your damned heads and stop complaining here when you get caught!

allntrlundrgrnd

07-10-2009, 06:59 PM

have these in maryland, have had them for a while. i know a few guys with them in their cars.

dont drink and drive?

chitownguy

07-10-2009, 09:42 PM

They have them here in Texas, but I think it's only if you have repeated offenses or you were super smashed and driving.

HyperTek

07-10-2009, 09:47 PM

imagine buying a car with one installed... hahaha that must hurt the value lol
"and here we have a 65 shelby wit a dui ignition interlock installed" lol

Matej

07-10-2009, 09:59 PM

that's always a PITA when you have to work on someone's car that has one of those on it.
Why, are you drunk when you work on people's cars? Haha.

TravisSW

07-10-2009, 10:02 PM

Best idea ever.

Helps keep drunks off the road.

It's a pain in the ass to pick up a drunk friend and her car that's 30-45 minutes away. -.-

blasting_speed

07-11-2009, 12:22 AM

This is a good idea. Maybe this will stop some of the idiots out on the roads.

Even though this is going to be a pain in the ass trying to start your car every single time. What if you're in danger???

S14DB

07-11-2009, 12:30 AM

Even though this is going to be a pain in the ass trying to start your car every single time. What if you're in danger???

Then don't drive. This an't the fucking movies.

!Zar!

07-11-2009, 03:32 AM

sleep

07-11-2009, 03:46 PM

no it was more meant towards all the cali, law related threads. There were several people in this thread bitching about it. Not the OP.

If you commit a crime, you should be punished. PERIOD

Goose

07-11-2009, 04:22 PM

We have them here in new mexico. Every vehicle you are registered under has to have one(including motorcycles). You pay for the device and installation out of pocket. If you are caught driving any vehicle without one you go to jail.
We have tech here at work that have dwi's that are no longer allowed to test drive cars due to the laws. When working on a car with one there are lock out codes that usually last about one hour you can get from the specific interlock company. Many of the new ones have camera on them too so you cant fake it.

Goose

07-11-2009, 04:24 PM

Why, are you drunk when you work on people's cars? Haha.
Those things are nasty as hell to blow into, and some models require you to huff air back in after blowing. Screw that im not about to make out with some 245lb dwi dude bringin his car into my shop. Customers can either wait and blow everytime we need it started or provide a lock out code.

Goose

07-11-2009, 04:26 PM

Old school dui trick.

Suck on ice cubes to lower your reading.

Noliez.
also wont really work. they have to have a zero reading. so even having drank the night before can set it off if you havent waited it off long enough

FaLKoN240

07-11-2009, 07:19 PM

LOL at people complaining about having to PAY for it after getting cited for your SECOND time.

If you have to pay for it, just consider it a part of your very large fine.

98s14inaz

07-12-2009, 03:24 PM

I like the idea, but at the same time I don't.

It's a good idea as long as the tax payers don't have to pay for it. The burden should lie on the offender and their families.

Matej

07-12-2009, 03:26 PM

Why their families?

98s14inaz

07-12-2009, 03:28 PM

Why their families?

Because when I pay more taxes my family has less money, therefore when you fuck up you should pay as well as your family.

Matej

07-12-2009, 03:40 PM

Oh ok.
Bring the whole family down.
I get it.

Future240

07-12-2009, 06:31 PM

Oh ok.
Bring the whole family down.
I get it.

You damn right because all of us should have to pay for the stupid mistake of one family member even though we didnt have anything to do with it

wait...wut?

98s14inaz

07-12-2009, 08:28 PM

You damn right because all of us should have to pay for the stupid mistake of one family member even though we didnt have anything to do with it

wait...wut?

Think about it. Everyone is on this "yaaaaay socialism" kick so why not institute more ideas across the board. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few right? You fuck up and you and your family pays for it because the rest of us, who follow the rules and don't fuck up, are sick of paying for your retardedness.

Matej

07-12-2009, 08:36 PM

Think about it. Everyone is on this "yaaaaay socialism" kick so why not institute more ideas across the board. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few right? You fuck up and you and your family pays for it because the rest of us, who follow the rules and don't fuck up, are sick of paying for your retardedness.
No one is on a 'yay socialism' kick.

Some people just don't know what real socialism is. Like all the dummies who believe Obama is a socialist, haha.

!Zar!

07-12-2009, 08:40 PM

Wait.

So why should someone pay because a family member of theirs fucks up?

This isn't sports.

Future240

07-12-2009, 08:49 PM

Think about it. Everyone is on this "yaaaaay socialism" kick so why not institute more ideas across the board. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few right? You fuck up and you and your family pays for it because the rest of us, who follow the rules and don't fuck up, are sick of paying for your retardedness.

I was being sarcastic.

No one is on a 'yay socialism' kick.

Some people just don't know what real socialism is. Like all the dummies who believe Obama is a socialist, haha.

I know right.

sleep

07-12-2009, 10:50 PM

Because when I pay more taxes my family has less money, therefore when you fuck up you should pay as well as your family.

You my friend, are a complete moron. Let me guess....you are a native Arizonan?

Only way your ignorant comments make any sense.

I hope you get a DUI in Maricopa. Then lets see how your views change, you twit.

98s14inaz

07-12-2009, 11:50 PM

You my friend, are a complete moron. Let me guess....you are a native Arizonan?

Only way your ignorant comments make any sense.

I hope you get a DUI in Maricopa. Then lets see how your views change, you twit.

If I have to drive I don't drink or I take a $40 cab ride. Not a hard concept and certainly cheaper than having Sheriff Joe fuck me in the ass financially. Be a grown up, drinking is a privilege when you turn 21 not a right. Do it responsibly or pay the price.

I for one do not want to have to pay for interlock devices with my tax money. If they put the bill on the offenders then we are a go. If your reading comprehension was better you would have gotten that earlier. You must be an arizona high school graduate lol. And hell no I am not an Arizona native.

FaLKoN240

07-13-2009, 12:53 AM

I hope tax payers don't have to pay for these fucking things, since we don't get a say on how much mother fuckers are allowed to drink.

Personal choice = personally funded punishment.

sleep

07-13-2009, 10:38 PM

If I have to drive I don't drink or I take a $40 cab ride. Not a hard concept and certainly cheaper than having Sheriff Joe fuck me in the ass financially. Be a grown up, drinking is a privilege when you turn 21 not a right. Do it responsibly or pay the price.

I for one do not want to have to pay for interlock devices with my tax money. If they put the bill on the offenders then we are a go. If your reading comprehension was better you would have gotten that earlier. You must be an arizona high school graduate lol. And hell no I am not an Arizona native.

Well you obviously are completely ignorant to our laws then. You were stating you wanted families to suffer with the offender. In case you weren't aware, a dui in AZ costs around $7800 in fines, plus $1000/year for the interlock. Paid for by..............GUESS WHO!?

Know what your talking about before opening your mouth/fingers.

Why would you even think i was from Arizona after my comment towards you? I am from the best coast......

My public school education beats your education, every day of the week.
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