Wix filters [email protected]

[Bigsyke]

NO OIL PUMP RELIEF!!!!

about 12/13 wix filters ive tested so far have failed the anti-drainback test so far. The filters leak oil past the silicone and you have dry starts every time you start your car.

All filters are supposed to seal and hold pressure when you blow in the middle of the filter, and only 1 of these wix have ever done that. Mobil1 filters so far have been decent with the anti-drainback, but dont flow as well as Wix.

The anti-drainback is the most important part of the filter, since dry starts are about as bad as smoking 3 packs of ciggs a day.

2 pureONE filters have failed, and so has a Napa Gold.

Here are the Wix Specs;

Part Number:51361UPC Number:765809513617Principal Application:Infiniti (91-97), Nissan (88-99), Mercury Villager (93-98), Subaru (88-94)</B>All Applications (http://javascript<b></b>:var w=window.open('PartApplications.asp?Part=51361','P artApplications','left=300,top=300,width=530,heigh t=300,toolbar=no,location=no,directories=no,status =no,menubar=no,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes');w.fo cus();)Style:Spin-On Lube FilterService:LubeType:Full FlowMedia:PaperHeight:4.113Outer Diameter Top:3.234 Outer Diameter Bottom:Closed Thread Size:3/4-16By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI:NoneAnti-Drain Back Valve:YesBeta Ratio:2/20=14/31Burst Pressure-PSI:340Max Flow Rate:7-9 GPMNominal Micron Rating:21
Gasket DiametersNumberO.D.I.D.Thk.Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
No Bypass!!!! WTF!

To test a filter your supposed to open the box and blow in it, however most part stores you have to get the filter from the back (wix). Just an FYI, Stay away from Wix.

[bboyt3nsk]

I thought NASCAR and F1 used these filter!!! This is very surprising. Ive sworn by these...

[P_856]

what he said i heard wix filters are suppose to be good

[s13dan]

i was using wix, but im sick and fucking tired of trying to get to it..
Hell i went K&N because of the bolt and thought it was a reputable brand..
And do you think you can blow the same psi as your oil pressure?

[jamg]

OEM, the way to go?

but OP, tell us more about that "test"......

exactly WHAT did you do now?????

[lflkajfj12123]

no OEM also suck

mobil 1

[jamg]

no OEM also suck

mobil 1

lol seriously?

guys here in ATL, all they said is "OMG GO OEM GO OEM!!"

[discosteak]

OEM sucks I agree with Mobil 1

[lflkajfj12123]

lol seriously?

guys here in ATL, all they said is "OMG GO OEM GO OEM!!"

yeah some guy on a 350 forum tore a bunch of filters apart

oem's are basically a fram :mad:

[discosteak]

OEMS are built by fram.<<------ NVM not entirely sure about this HONDA filters are made by fram

[FRpilot]

OP, i could have told you that...

[Dousan_PG]

whatever
i stopped caring about this shit years ago
it works its fine. might not be the BEST out there
but i change oil enough not to relaly be SUPER concerned about it
im not driving a ferrari. im driving a 89 nissan. get serious.

[jamg]

wow, first time i'm told that OEM filters suck.

lawl, thanks for the heads up.

seems like the west coast likes mobil 1.

[BlackZenkiS14]

All i've ever used in my cars were Mobile1 and Wix.

Amsoil reccomends Wix filters, and thats good enough for me.

[s13drob]

well think about it. nascars dont have to deal with constant starts everyday. maybe one start the whole race. in that case the anti-drainback wouldnt be neccessary

[bl3ujay07]

OP, what about k&n? Ive only used mobil 1 once and the rest, k&n.

[BlitzRPS13]

I'd really love to see some evidence that oem filters suck.

[lflkajfj12123]

search for it homie

the guy on the 350 forum cut open 3 different kinds of filters

the oem had cardboard in it

its garbage

[jamg]

All i've ever used in my cars were Mobile1 and Wix.

Amsoil reccomends Wix filters, and thats good enough for me.

they probably paid them to say that.

[usajdm]

search for it homie

the guy on the 350 forum cut open 3 different kinds of filters

the oem had cardboard in it

its garbage

Some guy on another forum told me that he cut open a cow and it had an alien in it.
No really, I saw a picture of it........... on the internet, so it must be true.

Sorry, just being funny.:rimshot:
I just dont think its wise to base your opinion of of what "some guy" said.
Did the guy have a certain oil filter cause any damage/failure?
With out a mass failure, how can something "suck"?

[lflkajfj12123]

i'm basing my opinion off the pictures the oem next to a puralator cut open lined next to each other

but okay smartass

corrections, g37 forum two filters

Don't Use Nissan OEM Oil Filters (Long Post - Lotsa Pics) - MyG37 (http://www.myg37.com/forums/engine-drivetrain-and-forced-induction/175085-dont-use-nissan-oem-oil-filters-long-post-lotsa-pics.html)

http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_5.jpg

suck it

oem & fram are garbage

filter comparison

http://mysite.verizon.net/michael_canlas/pics/filter_13.jpg

So what did I learn from all this? Pretty simple... the OEM oil filter is basically a Fram in disguise. Will I ever use one in my G37? Probably not.

Also note that the Purolator filter that I used was the PremiumPLUS filter. Purolator also makes their top oil filters called PureONE, which costs more ($5-$6). The PureONE filters are even better than the PremiumPLUS Purolators. I'll try and open one of those too when I get a chance.

So what's the best oil filter to use in our cars (http://myg37.com/forums/#)? You can't go wrong with any of these:

Purolator PureONE
Mobil 1
AMSOil
Bosch
K&N
Napa Gold

If you wanna save some money and do regular oil change intervals, any of these oil filters will suffice. Hell, anything's better than a Fram/OEM Nissan oil filter.

Purolator PremiumPLUS
SuperTech
STP
AC Delco
Valucraft (Autozone brand)

I've heard good things about the $2 SuperTech oil filters at Wal-Mart. That may be another viable option. I gotta read up some more and maybe cut one open. I plan on doing my first oil change in a couple of days.

[jamg]

thread is from 07, someone should clear the up again.

someone go buy one, and chop it open.

[lflkajfj12123]

and your join date is may 2009

you have any say so?

i'm pretty sure nissan hasn't put their oil filters as number 1 priority to change since 2007

you go buy one and chop it up then

[GSXRJJordan]

I thought NASCAR and F1 used these filter!!! This is very surprising. Ive sworn by these...

All i've ever used in my cars were Mobile1 and Wix.

Amsoil reccomends Wix filters, and thats good enough for me.

I've also heard exclusively good things about Wix filters, so that's what I use - but I agree with Big that dry starts are horrible on motors...

... so don't leave your shit sitting for like 6 months, and you'll never have a truly 'dry' start.

[Sl3KA]

WIX is great stuff... I just use Carquest blue or Napa Gold... all made my WIX, same good stuff... I doubt OEM filter ever changed at all... same good ole Fram junk.

[awesomenick]

I use STP filters. Somebody told me that they're good.

No idea. They don't cost much though. It's a stock KA anyways.

[Soup Nazi]

I've been using OEM on my SR for years...Oh well

[Forge_55b]

i'm basing my opinion off the pictures the oem next to a puralator cut open lined next to each other

but okay smartass


AHH ok I see now, soooo because its a paper/cardboard filter its bad, cheap, sucks? Based on what exactly is my question? Just cause its a cheaper material doesn't it still work good enough to protect an engine, ie stock intake vs aftermarket intakes. One makes more power but more protection? I don't think so.

[lflkajfj12123]

yes, exactly.

based on filters that aren't garbage

tinier filter, poor assembly & parts, and cardboard

what the fuck are you smoking you have no argument so just shut up

[Def]

I've never had a problem with OEM Nissan filters. I've never see one tear up with track usage, and their drainback valves work.

I think it's just like oil, you can nitpick to the Nth degree, but as long as the oil you are using has a relatively good additive package you're just splitting hairs. I say this as someone who has at least some background in tribology.

[Forge_55b]

yes, exactly.

based on filters that aren't garbage

tinier filter, poor assembly & parts, and cardboard

what the fuck are you smoking you have no argument so just shut up

awww you want me to shut up and have to use profanity to prove your point.....i love the interwebz

so other then the fact that yes its cheaper stuff in it, you can't prove that it filters soooo badly that it would cause harm to your car, or are you just going to keep saying this stuff costs more and has better materials so the other stuff is instantly labeled garbage? I'm not trying to say that there is no difference between the filters, just that oem and fram filters will work fine regardless of the materials being not as good as more expensive ones.

[MrChow]

Okay the thing with OEM filter that the newer ones are made in China switch are using paper filters. If your going to go with OEM filter make sure it's a blue filter and made in Japan. If not it's our true OEM filter.

wurd on the wix. That's interesting to hear. I haven't used wix filter yet. I've been on moble1 and k&n mostly. I don't see the different really between the two. I've used boschs filter a few times when they didn't have anything else. There not bad for a cheaper fitler. Like I said for the OEM filter has long has there blue and made in Japan there good.

[lflkajfj12123]

awww you want me to shut up and have to use profanity to prove your point.....i love the interwebz

so other then the fact that yes its cheaper stuff in it, you can't prove that it filters soooo badly that it would cause harm to your car, or are you just going to keep saying this stuff costs more and has better materials so the other stuff is instantly labeled garbage? I'm not trying to say that there is no difference between the filters, just that oem and fram filters will work fine regardless of the materials being not as good as more expensive ones.

They are made with inferior components, and many many people have reported more valve train noise on start up with these filters. They use cardboard end caps which can easily leak and cheap bypass valves which are known to stick open. You could get lucky and run them without a problem, but knowing that there are better choices for the same money, why take a chance?

I'm sorry if you don't understand the importance on how the filtration works in an oil filter.

[bo2o]

protection wise.... just change your filter everytime you do a oil change.

i say. get the cheapest you can get. cause your just going to change your oil every 3000 miles. some ppl like us do even sooner.

as long as your changing oil its good enuff.

and most of you s13 guys your prolly leaking half a qrt a week. in one month you pour in 4 qrts maybe.

you guys prolly dont even need a oil change haha just keep pouring oil and changing your filter.

[lflkajfj12123]

i leak ZERO

[Bigsyke]

awww you want me to shut up and have to use profanity to prove your point.....i love the interwebz

so other then the fact that yes its cheaper stuff in it, you can't prove that it filters soooo badly that it would cause harm to your car, or are you just going to keep saying this stuff costs more and has better materials so the other stuff is instantly labeled garbage? I'm not trying to say that there is no difference between the filters, just that oem and fram filters will work fine regardless of the materials being not as good as more expensive ones.


There is a defense in defending ebay exhausts, but IMO not for a fram filter, it only takes about 6 feet of movement to get out of the fram section. Why play "bang the hooker raw" when you can play it safe with a 12yr old by using a mobil1 or maybe a wix that wont leak.

Didnt they have a picture of a fram grenaded?

[lflkajfj12123]

yep

fram was banned from most automotive racing during the 90's because of the filters exploding and causing crashes

[meteorite_flo]

i was using wix, but im sick and fucking tired of trying to get to it..
Hell i went K&N because of the bolt and thought it was a reputable brand..
And do you think you can blow the same psi as your oil pressure?

What's wrong with K&N?

[Matej]

Nothing. K&N is supposed to be one of the best.

[HyperTek]

filters only need to last 3k miles.. quality wise, your not gonna drive a year on 1 filter.. should be ok.

[MrChow]

yep

fram was banned from most automotive racing during the 90's because of the filters exploding and causing crashes
Out of subject... Uh? You learn something new everything. =D

[lflkajfj12123]

can't understand your engrish homie..

[Bigsyke]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v94/daman1/fsux2.jpg



Are our filters supposed to have a bypass valve?? every nissan 240sx filter I cross reference has NO bypass relief valve?!

[GSXRJJordan]

I was told that wix had the same oil press bypass as oem, so that would imply that wix Nd oem do? I don't know, haven't verified.

[dtc 360RT]

Engine Oil Filter Study (http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html)

[!!chuy!!]

Royal Purple Indaependent Videos (http://www.royalpurple.com/rp-videos.html)
(i dont think they make it for our cars just yet but i cant wait untill they do)

[PoorMans180SX]

This is what I will be adapting to my car:

Pure Power Oil Filters High Performance Motor Oil (http://www.gopurepower.com/)


http://www.gopurepower.com/store/item.asp?cmd=dsplyItem&itemKey=713

[!!chuy!!]

http://www.royalpurple.com/index.php#

[ranger240]

we need a new section for threads.. it should be called the

"dont buy (insert product with a high quality repuation) i heard on the internet that they suck"

last week it was garett turbos are trash.. this week its wix filters...

next week?? i'll uncover the TRUTH that volk wheels are worse than rotas

[!!chuy!!]

damb Poor Man, there products are quiet spendy, but if u got the buck , why not get bucked off your seat. hah intresting website.
has anyone tried any of there products?

[Mitsubayati]

I just use Bosch filters. how do they rank?

[Bigsyke]

we need a new section for threads.. it should be called the

"dont buy (insert product with a high quality repuation) i heard on the internet that they suck"

last week it was garett turbos are trash.. this week its wix filters...

next week?? i'll uncover the TRUTH that volk wheels are worse than rotas

actually read the thread. This was about the ADBV of the Wix vs PureOnes, which Wix filters were extremely hit or miss, but the Pureones were/still are spot on.

They Pure Ones cost the same as the wix, but out perform them.

[PoorMans180SX]

Engine Oil Filter Study (http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html)

Good link btw!

we need a new section for threads.. it should be called the

"dont buy (insert product with a high quality repuation) i heard on the internet that they suck"

last week it was garett turbos are trash.. this week its wix filters...

next week?? i'll uncover the TRUTH that volk wheels are worse than rotas

HAhahahaha, awesome post.

[D.Adams]

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[jspeedm]

Are our filters supposed to have a bypass valve?? every nissan 240sx filter I cross reference has NO bypass relief valve?!


If I'm not mistaken, the KA has a built in valve.

most all filter manufacturers design their filters with valves when they are called for in the filter. otherwise they are probably built into the block or filter adapter.

[Spring Break '92]

I was online earlier looking at the Delvac oils and saw that Mobil offers 10w-30. Seems like its alot easier to find the 15w-40 variety than any of them. As far as filters I just use whatever I can find with an anti drain back valve and buy in bulk. It doesn't seem like there are really any that truly hold pressure available for our motors.

[TurboSE]

K&N...white, easy to see...have the nut on the end, easy to put on/take off...sold at the Autozone up the street, easy to find....I'll stick with them...