The most astronomical epic ownage this universe has ever seen. Pix galore,let it load

[OBEEWON]

So, I picked up a partial sponsor for body work. The guy was a very nice dude, and older, with experience with muscle cars. His son was a nice guy as well so I felt I was in good hands. We made an agreement for less than half of the value of the job. In exchange I would design a logo for him and display it on my car at whatever events I attended.
I dropped off the car with three weeks to go for the East Coast Bash. He promised me he would finish in two weeks to give me at least a week to have the rest of the car assembled (cage, motor work, alignment etc.)

7 weeks and several unreturned calls and emails later I was given this beauty.

Before (I wanted it to look like this again)
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/OLD%20TO%20NEW/DSC_0059-1.jpg

Disassembled upon drop-off. Skirts and spare Vertex bumper inside car.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_0278.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_0281.jpg

I love a car with no sideskirts. The Truck bed liner 2 tone job is a sweet touch too. Im glad it was done without my permission. Sweet.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_0129.jpg

So hawt, Im glad I didn’t put my nice wheels on when I took it.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_0130.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_0147.jpg

Brand new leather. Thank God I took the interior out before I dropped it off
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4599.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4598.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4585.jpg

Sweet prep job
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4582.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4583.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4584.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4585.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4587.jpg

Half painted mirror
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4580.jpg

Unmasked trim
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4576.jpg

Sanded trim
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4574.jpg

Dents
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4571.jpg

This bumper fit before
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4570.jpg

This whole side was never touched by a buffer. Dents galore.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4568.jpg

The bumper doesn’t need to line up. Im not picky.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4567.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4591.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4592.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4593.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4596.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4600.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4602.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4603.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4612.jpg

Mmmm, I love the smell of burning paint.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4613.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4614.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4615.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4616.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4617.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4622.jpg

I was called from the paint store to confirm the color I wanted. This was supposedly mixed last week.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4631.jpg

This clearly says 2006
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4630.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4628.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4627.jpg

This is the aero that was giving him such a hard time.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4632.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4633.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4634.jpg

[wafflez66]

wow...................

[zaquanh]

holy shit wtf ,

[OBEEWON]

And the kicker, this happened to my SC last week.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/SC/IMG_0092.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/SC/IMG_0093.jpg

[enkei2k]

man, that sucks. i'm scared to get my paint job now...any more details on the people?

[cemtoes]

Oh....wow......

So what are you going to do about this there situation? Words couldn't even describe how pissed I would be if I was you.

[OBEEWON]

When I got home I just started laughing. It's completely absurd. It would be so much easier if the guy was a jerk but he is nice, at least to my face. But I don't want to say what I am going to do untill I get a response from him.

If he makes good I won't put him out there either.

[turbo_dreams]

How the hell can anyone justify that? God how i'd love taking them to court on this. It's almost as bad as the epic 350z w/ the sheetrock screwed on sideskirts

[turbo_dreams]

When I got home I just started laughing. It's completely absurd. It would be so much easier if the guy was a jerk but he is nice, at least to my face. But I don't want to say what I am going to do untill I get a response from him.

If he makes good I won't put him out there either.

What could he possibly say nicely that justify's that? I'm sorry? Really hope you didn't pay a dime for that, in fact he should be paying you for a better body shop having to line up your front n rear bumpers not to mention your new leather seat w/ paint on it as well as all your trim and moldings

[landins13]

And the kicker, this happened to my SC last week.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/SC/IMG_0092.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/SC/IMG_0093.jpg


since youre a returning customer maybe hell hook you up on fixing the sc for you

[garagelu]

how much did you pay for that paint job? I learned some things from my first paint job.

Do your prep work yourself because some body shops half ass it. Take off as much as you can to avoid overspray. Esapecially any kind of trim pieces. Usually they are only held on by a few screws so why not?

And finally, you get what you pay for. I paid 1100 for my paint job and it turned out better than yours but still not happy. Next time I am going to prep myself and pay a little more for a quality paint job. Anything under a 1K paint job is going to be crap.

[tricky_ab]

God damn that car is messed up! I hope you get this shit sorted out sooner then later...

[HyperTek]

did he paint it wiht a paint ball gun? lmao jk

[OBEEWON]

Garagelu read the description again. It was a sponsorship not a regular job.

LOL, He did ask if I wanted him to repair the Lexus too!!

[Gorilla Unit 33]

Dont worry OB my first paintjob was worse then this... but needless to say this is still a fucked up job. Come on what real body guy thinks truck bed liner is an acceptable substitue for paint? I wouldnt worry too much about it atleast this car can be sanded down and re-painted, my car couldnt be. Yeah, we wont go into that too much just believe me when i say my roof felt like 100 grit sand paper. Surprisingly it wasnt done by the same guy who did your job, but that just means theres more then one dumbass in the world with a paint gun that thinks they can paint. We should buy him a Auto body book for dummies. I should make a bunch of t-shirts that say "I canz piantz" and have them delivered.

....Needless to say i think the fine for not having the necessary paint booth and all the other correct shit in your shop to make it LEGAL to paint in that area is in the thousands, and then some.

[smelly240]

are u serious?! dude - no wonder you didnt come over yesterday. I thought u were blowing me off. I shoulda known better (u never blowoff ur evil twin).

You can bring it over anyway tho - so i can at least make it run fresh.

[sleep]

not to mention your new leather seat w/ paint on it as well as all your trim and moldings

That is not paint. That is clear coat from the terrible wet sand job. Honestly most of your woes with the paint can easily be fixed with a much better wet sand, cut, and polish.

80% of your problems just need a professional detail. The aero issues, and the trim shit need more work.

[Flicktitty]

wow, that is just stupid, how can ANY shop be OK putting out something like that?

[ixfxi]

That is not paint. That is clear coat from the terrible wet sand job. Honestly most of your woes with the paint can easily be fixed with a much better wet sand, cut, and polish.

80% of your problems just need a professional detail. The aero issues, and the trim shit need more work.

oh no... NO FUCKING WAY, that the fuck outta here....


you cant wetsand and polish that car and make it look acceptable. he has imperfections under the paint, like dents. the prep is beyond bad. basically, he paid this dude to fuck his car up for him. he couldve paid me and i wouldve done a better job fucking it up, but i would have specifically told him that i was going to fuck his car up! this guy lied and said that he'll give him a proper paint job.... bullshit.


take some advice from someone whos been there before, you have one solution: go to 3 other body shops, get quotes, sue the bastard.

good luck

[drift freaq]

That is not paint. That is clear coat from the terrible wet sand job. Honestly most of your woes with the paint can easily be fixed with a much better wet sand, cut, and polish.

80% of your problems just need a professional detail. The aero issues, and the trim shit need more work.

Ah that car has orange peel like its going out of style. It would take a hell of a lot color sanding to even begin to remove all the imperfections in his paint. Its one thing to spray a car near flawlessly and have a few imperfections that need to be color sanded. Its another to just spray the car so badly that its just fucked. That paint job is fucked.

[OBEEWON]

Thanks. This is the second time this has happened to me. I will find pictures of my maxima.

I'm going to give him a chance to have someone else fix it. I believe everyone deserves a chance to fix what they messed up. I will not say what I will do after that but I DEMAND SATISFACTION! lol

Yeah Mike hit it on the head. There are dents that did not exist before. My expensive tails, expensive Navan, BRAND NEW LEATHER, INGS +1 aero, all screwed. My headlights. There is clear, wetsand, primer in every flippin crevice of this car. I mean it takes talent to be this thorough. I must have done something to this man in a previous life...

I swear if I can find another shell I will give this one away and start over. I don't even want it anymore.

[wannabdr1ftr]

wow that really sucks...reminds me of that 350z that got an aero kit and paint job with everything held on with wood screws and such.

[carnagexxxx]

What part of philly is this guy in? This is the kind of shit that would have landed me in jail for pwning the guy's face with a bat. :rl:

If you have any family/friends that are an attourney, you should at least discuss what your options are. Regardless of whether or not it was a "sponsorship" he destroyed your property which could total in the thousands to replace.

I feel for you man. :naw:

[smelly240]

wow that really sucks...reminds me of that 350z that got an aero kit and paint job with everything held on with wood screws and such.

thats been said already....

[yurisfriendevan]

It sucks that you got burned by this guy but, honestly the cars not that bad. so dont get rid of it! Ive been doing paint and body for 4 years and i could fix it for you but your a little too far away.

Its still not acceptable to return a car to a customer like that... ever. i am not defending him at all, and the job does look like shit, but it could be fixed pretty easily.

Edit: Upon second examination, you got fucked. go get your money back!

[Kouki_Love]

wow man, thats sucks soo bad....

[spoolandslide]

If you want a job done right you just have to do it yourself.

Words I have learned from my father.

[sleep]

Ah that car has orange peel like its going out of style. It would take a hell of a lot color sanding to even begin to remove all the imperfections in his paint. Its one thing to spray a car near flawlessly and have a few imperfections that need to be color sanded. Its another to just spray the car so badly that its just fucked. That paint job is fucked.

If the texture is underneath the clear coat, then its fucked. But if the texture is in the clear, and the car has 2 coats on it, it is easily sand able. I worked for a body shop as their detailer for a couple of years, and without a brand new 100k+, down draft paint booth it is near impossible to only need a spot or 2 sanded in regards to dirt in the clear. Orange peel and runs come from the painters technique.

I used to have to sand every panel that was painted, completely. Starting with 1500 and working up to 2000. That is, if the customer paid enough money for the job.

The bedliner shit, and prep shit is not easily fixable. The imperfections in the clear are. A proper cut and polish can make a shitty spray(not prep) job, look wonderful. The dull spots on your roof are because it wasn't cut properly. The dullness on the roof would take me 10 minutes to fix.

I know it was a sponsorship deal, which really sucks. When it comes to paint/body work. You get what you pay for. (Sponsorship kind of nulls that statement)

[OBEEWON]

If you want a job done right you just have to do it yourself.

Words I have learned from my father.


100% TRUTH! Been my motto forever, just was not feasable this time.

I think this is much much worse than that 350Z. Ironically I was reading over that thread before I got my car.

His damage was not to his engine bay or interior or wheels etc. Mine is much more extensive. The only difference is his car is much newer and worth more.


The ball is already rolling for satisfaction. I have given him an option for the easy way out.

[MisS13]

OOOMMMMGGG!!! i will soooooo sue them.

[pinkarrowsnow]

sorry to hear obee that sucks :(

[turbo_dreams]

what's his option? we wanna know

[Choku_Dorian]

that succcckkkkksss you had to miss the event and not even for a good result. you are the epitome of a good customer though, i hope everything works out for you.

[OBEEWON]

Thanks for the well wishes.

Again, I won't say what the option is untill he has a chance to respond. Judging by my interaction with him he will agree. But something tells me he won't. And if he doesn't...

...lets just say I really hope he agrees because I like being a nice guy.

[MandTPhotography]

Holy fucking container of assballs batman.

I hope the guy makes good with you, but if not...oh wow.

I'd be curbstomping some babies.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

round up the youngin's. it's an old fashioned pennsylvania barn razing.


but really. that sucks dude. hopefully he'll make good on his craptastic work, but if not, it's not that difficult to make small PA shops go out of business.

[OBEEWON]

round up the youngin's. it's an old fashioned pennsylvania barn razing.


lol, this was my first thought. It took alot of willpower not to get on the phone.

[95 maxima se]

i wouldnt wanna get on your bad side, sry about your car

[sleep]

im actually curious as to who and where he is. I just moved to Phoenix from Philadelphia 2 years ago. And i spent most of my working life there, in automotive.

[OBEEWON]

i wouldnt wanna get on your bad side, sry about your car

Me either, that's why I'm so patient.

im actually curious as to who and where he is. I just moved to Phoenix from Philadelphia 2 years ago. And i spent most of my working life there, in automotive.

Thats pretty odd... he used to live in Phoenix...

[Matej]

Looks like he used your car as a guinea pig for his son to practice painting on.

[lflkajfj12123]

god i would trash that car so fast

buy a new car fuckkk pissed is an understatement

[dori_sil8t]

i would of cried man...did u.. u can tell us
shitty deal man i hope he fixes it the way u want it..

[florante rea]

'm speechless. i think maaco paint job was better than that. obee sorry about your sc. wtf happened?

[ixfxi]

Yeah Mike hit it on the head. There are dents that did not exist before. My expensive tails, expensive Navan, BRAND NEW LEATHER, INGS +1 aero, all screwed. My headlights. There is clear, wetsand, primer in every flippin crevice of this car. I mean it takes talent to be this thorough. I must have done something to this man in a previous life...

I swear if I can find another shell I will give this one away and start over. I don't even want it anymore.

i wouldnt say your tail lights are expensive, they're less expensive than OE tail lights. but thats not the fucking point. dude completely ripped on your shit, completely fucked up your car.

i know this because ive had similar done to me with a body shop, and while i didnt bring him a valuable car (i only brought him a shell of a body), i was still upset with the way things were handled.. or lack thereof. my fucking wheels got stolen due to my car being put outside of his lot.

body shops can be real mother fuckers. they take something you care about, take your dough, and then fuck you anally.

dont fuck around, take my advice. go straight for estimates and go straight to court. the process is going to be a bitch, because you basically need the car stripped and redone for it to be worth a damn. he's really given you a big headache. much like getting hit by a car, you wont feel the pain as its overwhelming and you only feel the pain once youre conscious and aware of whats happened.


ps: and you have an sc, how ironic.. me too. why is it that we all buy the same types of shitty old cars. :-)

[heavenboundkevin]

If you want a job done right you just have to do it yourself.

Words I have learned from my father.


qft. I dont think i will EVER let anyone do any kind of work to my car.

[sleep]

Thats pretty odd... he used to live in Phoenix...
lol, yep that would be an odd coincidence. Probably means i wouldn't know of him or his shop then. I was in Bucks county.

Looks like he used your car as a guinea pig for his son to practice painting on.

Actually that was my first thought after looking at the pictures. Especially with the poor polish job.

[sb253]

holy hell...

first page crew. yay

[Fries]

This is soooo sucky dude. I don't know what I'd do. Seriously.



i would of cried man...did u.. u can tell us
shitty deal man i hope he fixes it the way u want it..

This is sooooo gay.
Yeah, really really gay.

[Shadowhunter]

Man,Maaco would have done a better job than that shit. That is terrible. I hope you show him, he looks at it and says it's ghastly and agrees to redo it all for free and do it right. If not then it would be time to get the angry.

[JaeTea]

I can't even begin to think WTF this guy was thinking when he gave you your car back.

If he wont' repaint the whole thing for free and fix everything, get a lawyer.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

let me know if you want to break stuff. i like bevenging.

http://www.joncouture.com/RalphGun.gif

[blitzsti22]

man getting my car back in that condition will make me furious

[soon2bs13]

*trembles*

that is horrible. i hope karma kicks him in the face!

[silpena]

the guys only option is to restart from scratch. Maybe he did let his son do it. Maybe something really did happen to him and his finished it for him. Who knows? guess just be patient and hope he does the right thing and fixes all the damages out of his expenses. If he was a true hot rod guy he wouldnt let that happen. Especially if hes trying to get his name out.

id fix it for u but again im too far.

[sleep]

I am amazed by the complete ignorance by most members, posting in this thread.

If you don't know what it takes to paint a car, or how to make it right...then just shut the hell up.

If 1 more ignorant person claims that "Maaco" would do a better job, i'm going to explode.

Learn how to prep a car, paint a car, and finish the car before you make a fucking statement.

I know guys who have done all their own prep work (including removing all trim) and then had maaco spray said car.....wet sanded and removed paint runs from the clearcoat, and wound up with a hell of a better paint job then you idiots have stock.

Do all the prep work, trim removal, ETC. and have an amateur spray your car for $300.....then put it back together YOURSELF, and detail it YOURSELF......THEN talk about other peoples work.

UNTIL THEN! Just STFU

/edit Do all the work yourself, and pay someone to spray the car. And you have absolutely nothing to bitch about. This post was not meant towards you OP. This was meant towards the ignorant people posting in your thread. You expected a great job done for your sponsorship, to advertise his work. And you didn't get anything worth advertising.

You dummies want to rag on someones work....then go rag on the 350Z that was ruined in OT. That shit is completely inexcusable.

[Maximamike]

If the texture is underneath the clear coat, then its fucked. But if the texture is in the clear, and the car has 2 coats on it, it is easily sand able. I worked for a body shop as their detailer for a couple of years, and without a brand new 100k+, down draft paint booth it is near impossible to only need a spot or 2 sanded in regards to dirt in the clear. Orange peel and runs come from the painters technique.

I used to have to sand every panel that was painted, completely. Starting with 1500 and working up to 2000. That is, if the customer paid enough money for the job.

The bedliner shit, and prep shit is not easily fixable. The imperfections in the clear are. A proper cut and polish can make a shitty spray(not prep) job, look wonderful. The dull spots on your roof are because it wasn't cut properly. The dullness on the roof would take me 10 minutes to fix.

I know it was a sponsorship deal, which really sucks. When it comes to paint/body work. You get what you pay for. (Sponsorship kind of nulls that statement)

There is no way you are fixing most of that. Most of that clear is so pinholed that you would blow through all the clearcoat just to get it decently straight again. We've sprayed cars in my detailing shop that have come out absolutely spotless and thats with a Home Depot plastic sheeting spray booth and not a downdraft booth. A good paint job is all in the prep and in this case there was obviously little to none.

[DreamN]

^ what the fuck are you on about?

OBEE, feel for you. Hopefully all gets squared away and doesn't turn into a giant clusterfuck of a mess.

[Dee]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4587.jpg


Holy hell look at that orange peel, man they really screwed your shit up :eek3:

[JaeTea]

I am amazed by the complete ignorance by most members, posting in this thread.

If you don't know what it takes to paint a car, or how to make it right...then just shut the hell up.


:wtf:

What the hell are you talking about???

Do you really need to paint a car to be able to tell that they completely fucked up that car and spilled clear coat all over the interior? Prep has nothing to do with it.

Maaco can do a WAY better job than that, even without prepping it yourself.

[Felipe]

i would be so fucken pissed... dont even get me started on the seats!!!!

[SR20FTW]

This is a unfortunate thing. Theres also a valuable lesson to be learned here. When having anyone do work to your car, it's best to check in frequently and make sure things are going the way you plan. When I'm doing any kind of work for someone I always urge them to come by and see whats happening to their car and make sure it's what they want. It just ends up being bad business if the car owner and the business owner dont meet in the middle with satisfaction in mind.

[OBEEWON]

Dropped off the car at my friends shop last night. He was pissed with me at first that I took it elsewhere. But after explaining to him that he has been putting me off for four years and this was practically free labor he agreed he would have done the same. I let him know that I would rather remain friends and take the car somewhere else than him do a half hearted job.

I having been in this thing for as long as some, but I've seen and expirienced more than most. I'm not having mercy on anyone anymore.

Still awaiting response from Body guy A.... I'll update when I can.

My SC should be done today.

[smelly240]

hopefully 5stars fixes it quick and painlessly.

[Fries]

Following this thread, I really hope that it works out for you brother.

[David B S12]

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w264/OBEEWON/PROGRESS/IMG_4631.jpg



sherwin williams!?!?! is that what it says? i cant read it good

wtf!

shoulda came to my work at bejamin moore lol! our house paint is lifetime warranty

i didnt know sw made car paint

[ixfxi]

i didnt know sw made car paint

yes, sherman williams has been making car paint for a pretty long time


but dont blame the shit job on SW, its the shop that sucks balls

[Future240]

Wow just fuckin wow. I am speeechless. How can a person turn that out and call it work? Op my condolences, I hope it all gets straightened out.

[StalinDrift123]

holy shits man!!! i would stab both of them in the eye..... how can u own a shop and not know how to work on cars? only in america! haha.

[jholman05]

I just dropped my car off yesterday at the body shop, getting a total respray and light body work, stories like this and that 350z have me scared, although the same place painted my "show" truck a few years ago and I'm satisfied with the quality they did. Its going to end up costing me around $2500 to get all the body work, paint, new windsheild, and window seals put in, luckily I took most of the trim panels off the car before I took it in.

To the op, good luck with getting that sorted out, I would be very disappointed. That and now you're going to have a hard time trusting anyone to do any work on your car.

[99maxgtr]

damn ob that shit is FUBAR
my 5 dorra rattle can isn't looking so bad now lol.
what happened to the sc? you tried to do some f&f shit buy going underneath a 16 wheeler?
your not danny tran :p

[renegade_ewok]

I swear if I can find another shell I will give this one away and start over. I don't even want it anymore.
Dibs!

Yo, thats some garbage OB haha I feel for ya; how the hell is that even considered marginally acceptable. I don't think anyone can look at the car and go, "Yep, ready to be delivered." :rofl:

GL getting shit fixed.

[Ghost240]

Wow..........I'd go on a rampage....and i thought my shit got reamed.....This is the shit that makes me want my own shop.

[OBEEWON]

So I sent him a letter:


June 28, 2009

Frank,

After seven weeks I have lost time and money that I can never recover. I have also lost a sponsor and missed 3 events. When I picked up the car I did not see it in the sunlight missing the glaring flaws in the job. It is clear this was not sprayed in a booth or proper facility. The damage includes but is not limited to:


Orange peel everywhere, Steve promised me there wouldn’t be any peel at all.
Dents. Some were fixed, but there are dents there that I have never seen before.
Panels that were clearly untouched by the buffer
Hood does not line up
Bumpers do not line up
Trunk does not line up
Fenders do not line up
Rear bumper is broken and improperly mounted with missing hardware
Interior was not protected from dust and primer. My brand new leather seat has primer stain on it.
My engine bay was not masked adequately It is filthy with dust primer and overspray.
The eyelids on my headlights were not painted as requested, but have speckles of primer on them
My mirrors were not painted completely.
There is primer on my tires.
Bumpers were rubber coated without my consent.
After all the extra time my roof spoiler, trunk spoiler, spare bumper and side skirts still have not been repaired or painted.
Drivers side indicator was not plugged in and as a result was dragged on the ground on the ride home and damaged.
Trim was not properly masked and as a result was either sanded or over sprayed with primer.

Upon the receipt of the rest of my items (roof spoiler, trunk spoiler, sideskirts andspare bumper) I realized they had not been worked on at all. There was over sprayed primer all over them, and the bumper I had requested to be repaired had not been touched. The can of paint that was given to me as leftovers said it was mixed on 7/7/2006, when I was told it was being mixed and purchased last week (6/19/2009).

I was unaware that you had a second job at the time we made our agreement, and I did not find out until weeks into the job well past the two week deadline. In light of the damage and the time taken (5 weeks overdue) I request that the $500 I have already paid be refunded. I also request that you cover the cost for a shop of my choice to repair the damage done and complete the job correctly.

His response:



ob,

if 5 star wants 1500 dollars to finish your car I want 3500 because a fair estiment of your car when it came to the shop in the condition it was in would have been 5000 dollars, meaning you owe me 3000 because you already gave me the 500. so 500 + 1500+ that your gonna pay to get your car finished at 5 star = 2000 so you owe me 3000. So let me know what you want to do.

thanks

[OBEEWON]

My response


Hi XXXX, That is not the official estimate. You can call 5 star to see what, and why they estimate the way they do
215-457-6859
This was our agreement in your own words:

Quote:
Originally Posted by XXX
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE:
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 06:21:36 +0000
Hi I 'm interested I will give you a 2500.00 paint job for 1000.00 and hope to pick up some work from being a sponsor.
XXXX

If you can honestly say the job you gave me is worth $2500 then I will leave it at that.
My request is not unreasonable. You can see the photos in your email.

[nathanong87]

i too have also gotten scammed on a paint job. took my 1G and ran. phuck scammers

[99maxgtr]

dude post this up on tst.
that guy's son or w/e pm'ed me when i was looking for a place to get my paint job.
fucking hacks man let them burn.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Wow...I've seen better shit come out of a $600 paintjob out of MAACO...

[OBEEWON]

dude post this up on tst.
that guy's son or w/e pm'ed me when i was looking for a place to get my paint job.
fucking hacks man let them burn.

I just did, he is pming me pissed as hell. Dont put his name out there though. Not yet.

[lewisfk]

damn there worse than Maco

[99maxgtr]

I just did, he is pming me pissed as hell. Dont put his name out there though. Not yet.
lol well i just pme'd him
Originally Posted by 96zenki
Quote:
Originally Posted by vernach14
my old man said he will paint your car. and if you just want a stage one job your lookin around 1500.
he said a show qualtiy job just one color and the best clear we use around 2500-3000
so for 1500 would my car look like ob's?
b/c if that's the case i think you should pay me.

ha ha na. does the body on your car have about 40 dents like his did there was only so much my dad could do with it after all the work he put into it. over 70 hours just in body work he needed a new front bumper. he made the body straight he sent us three pics to fix on his car and my dad wasnt gonna let it leave the shop with just fixing the three dents.he was trying to make it look good you know like the body straight, so he could get some work from it. ob stoped at the shop before it was sprayed and said dont worry about all the dents its a track car any way. i told him i was sorry about the seat and that it just needs to be wiped off its just from wet sanding the primer i just forgot to look at the back of the seat.

[theslows13]

So I sent him a letter:



His response:


FUUUUUCK that. FUUUUUUCk that. no way would that ever slide.

what an asshat.

[OBEEWON]

lol well i just pme'd him
Originally Posted by 96zenki
Quote:
Originally Posted by vernach14
my old man said he will paint your car. and if you just want a stage one job your lookin around 1500.
he said a show qualtiy job just one color and the best clear we use around 2500-3000
so for 1500 would my car look like ob's?
b/c if that's the case i think you should pay me.

ha ha na. does the body on your car have about 40 dents like his did there was only so much my dad could do with it after all the work he put into it. over 70 hours just in body work he needed a new front bumper. he made the body straight he sent us three pics to fix on his car and my dad wasnt gonna let it leave the shop with just fixing the three dents.he was trying to make it look good you know like the body straight, so he could get some work from it. ob stoped at the shop before it was sprayed and said dont worry about all the dents its a track car any way. i told him i was sorry about the seat and that it just needs to be wiped off its just from wet sanding the primer i just forgot to look at the back of the seat.


Wow wow. Wow.

WOW

wow

dayum. wow.

[OBEEWON]

I am about to post pictures of the day I dropped this car off WITH THE MAN AND THE MYTH in them. Danny Tran SAVE that PM as evidence when I go to court, cuz thats how its looking.

[OBEEWON]

Who the hell says dont worry about the dents when they are getting a paint job?????????

[Otto347]

Shoot this guy in the fucking face, end of story.

This guy should have his eyes ripped out.......................

[Gorilla Unit 33]

What in the world of Ga-phil-ka Fish?...

Is this guy on crack? Seriously the son of the master of the dewalt spray gun really thinks that your paint job is acceptable? Damn no wonder Ive been hearing that Tst is only filled with dumbass little kids anymore. You really have to be fucked up to think that.

This guy should be the bob villa of auto body...


...Ob let me know whatever you need.

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sherwin williams!?!?! is that what it says? i cant read it good

wtf!

shoulda came to my work at bejamin moore lol! our house paint is lifetime warranty

i didnt know sw made car paint

I know you live in the south but thats no excuse for being ignorant

[wgJoY]

Reading all of this is pissing me off.

I can't believe something like this could ever happen, nor can I believe there is people that WOULD DO THIS!

I can't imagine how you must be feeling right now OB, but seriously, set those fucks back a peg or two!

[steve shadows]

man, that sucks. i'm scared to get my paint job now...any more details on the people?


now you know why I NEVER got my old car painted...haha

my rattle can flat black was a lot better than this or worse happening.


Honestly man. I would moltov his house and skin hit cat...and that would be light punishment

[wgJoY]

You gave him a chance to redeem himself, pay for the costs and move on.

He said fuck you, so FUCK HIM!!












no homo

[Dee]

Take his dumbass to court fuck playing games with him, after reading that response he obviously doesn't give a crap about how he screwed you and has no intentions of owning up to it like a responsible human-being.

Hit them in the pockets, nuff said.

[Slammed180]

Wow, the end product is almost incomprehensible. I mean, spilling a gallon of paint and hitting it with a hammer would almost give you the same end result.

Stories like this, and the infamous 350Z make me terrified to get my car painted.

I hope all works out for you, and this guy gets run into the ground.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Shit...now that Im thinking about it...OBEE, you have the worst fucking luck when it comes to cars. Didnt you have like a million shit going on with your engine a year back or so? Bad enough that you almost parted it out. Now you got this...

[JaeTea]

Take his dumbass to court fuck playing games with him, after reading that response he obviously doesn't give a crap about how he screwed you and has no intentions of owning up to it like a responsible human-being.

Talk to a lawyer ASAP.

/end

[OBEEWON]

Yeah, that's the plan. I got alot more PMs from his son last night. I will post them up. He told me "**** the agreement, you basically got body work for $500."

Yeah Flip. I've been screwed with this car since day 1. I can't begin to tell you how many times I have been screwed. I should start a whole new thread about that.

[smelly240]

I still love u Mr Othnelios the Greek.

You comin over tonight? Should be firing up the talons new bunny smasher.

You can check out my mullie.

[roplusbee]

Wow dude. I hope you can get this straightened out without any further craziness. Otherwise, I am sure that you can think of some creative ways to get your monies worth. Good luck......................

[southerncross]

you need a really aggressive attorney. like, right now.

i really feel for you man. that car looked way better going in than it came out.

[singlecamslam]

man that sucks dude. I walked in on a body guy working on my car, sanding it and stuff with the windows rolled down, so my interior looked like crap. Good luck.

[Shadowhunter]

Yeah, that's the plan. I got alot more PMs from his son last night. I will post them up. He told me "**** the agreement, you basically got body work for $500."


I would not call that body work, I would call that jerking off on your car with a shitty paint gun. Eff that noise Blast these fuckers on every online forum you can find saving people from dealing with this nonsense I have had bad experiences with paint shops too but nothing as bad as this crap. Then take them to court, it's a good thing you have before and after pics, that will solidfy your case. Usually when a car comes out looking worse out of the shop then it went in then it is not a good thing.

[XenoVibe]

I bet he's going to claim it was his sons first 'attempt' and the father never inspected it :|

[Offsetz33]

Man that is terrible - hope things work out for you, but be prepared for quite a battle ahead...

[g-via]

at least OP has a good attitude about the whole shitfest

hope you get him in court

[blueshark123]

if u ever need a hook up on paint that does real good work for cheap just let me know i guarantee it wont be bad at all that goes for everybody who needs body work

[meteorite_flo]

I feel your pain, I went to a shop that everyone(friends) recommended. Car came out all wrong, they put rivets on my fucking side skirts. Completely fucked my alarm up(hood sensor are no where to be found). The asshat said it was working before. Man fuck, reading this thread got me mad. FUCK THAT SHOP.

[ESmorz]

I'd be fucking livid.

Go get 'em tiger.


ob,

if 5 star wants 1500 dollars to finish your car I want 3500 because a fair estiment of your car when it came to the shop in the condition it was in would have been 5000 dollars, meaning you owe me 3000 because you already gave me the 500. so 500 + 1500+ that your gonna pay to get your car finished at 5 star = 2000 so you owe me 3000. So let me know what you want to do.

thanks

Lol, that sounds familiar.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

hows this whole situation looking ob?

[babowc]

I really hope you didn't expect a perfect paintjob for that amount of money you paid.

[singlecamslam]

Yea but it looks like they made his car worse than better for that money, i could of done that for free.

[turbo_dreams]

Really anxious to see how you'll retaliate these fucks, it'd be nice to see pricks get fucked at their own game.

[niSE7EN]

fucktards,

those painters are pretty dumb, aren't they a legit company? or the whole thing is just a scam?

sue em, its a long ass process, court and all that i hated it when i went through mine.

[MannylovesLian]

so what was the out some of this then?

what did you end up doing?

[opponheimer]

Do you need a lawyer in small claims? I would avoid getting a lawyer unless you can get them to pay for your fees.

It would be extra nice if his halfwit son got a temper and made a few threats to you


I would start naming the shop/individuals responsible, now that you're at the point of taking them to court

[burnsauto]

ya know, the sad thing is.... a basic job like this isn't rocket science. It really makes it difficult for other body guys (like myself) to get side work, because so many guys like this are out there..screwing people over.

The guys that did that "job" need to go back to masking 101 and learn how to cover the inside of a gap and how to mask off an engine bay. (again not rocket science) But the problems I'm seeing are from start to finish, its like he fucked up every step of the prep, the spraying, and the detail.

I may start doing side work to help combat assholes like this that cut corners, and to help guys out by cutting them a little bit of a deal.

[White Comet]

i really hope this story eventually has a happy ending. good luck

[ixfxi]

I think the biggest problem is that your car wasnt hot shit when you dropped it off, its kinda slapped together. The thing is, you're expectations of what you should have gotten are higher than what they were going to give you.

My friend says "there's no such thing as a free lunch" and when you pay 500, 1000, or 1500 for a paint job.. you get exactly that.

I am not backing the paint shop in ANY way, because I think they're work sucks balls. But, I've been around enough body shops to know the in-and-out that many shops run by. I wouldnt trust a body shop unless:
1) I know the owner
2) I've seen consistent work come out of their shop
3) They charge enough to justify their quality of craftsmanship

When you pay a shop buckoo bucks to do a sweetass paint job, you're paying so that they take the time to remove, mask, and prep. You dont pay that magic figure, then you end up getting it in the ass when they cause damage to your precious parts that have taken you lots of time, money and headache to acquire.

When I had my car painted, I gave them a bare chassis and I STILL managed to get fucked. I took my car out of one body shop, took it to another in PIECES. At least you're getting out with your car all in one piece.

I never bothered taking mine to court. I wish you luck, I think they deserve to get sued.. at least thats how it looks in the pics. Your car didnt look great before, but they surely neglected your car with the outcome.

Good luck hommie

[smelly240]

I think he should just wrap it in stickers that say the name of the shop that did it -

make sure that everyone knows who did it, and that its "their best work to date"

[Gorilla Unit 33]

i was so about to put them on blast. i drove into the industrial area to see if i can get a quick glipse of the dewalt spray gun master... i should pose as a possible customer lol bring them a perfect car and tell them i want wet sand marks here, here and here. Take the coating off my moldings so they rust alll over here. Then i want them to keep the driverside window down and spray chameleon paint all in that bitch so i blend in with the interior no matter what time of the day it is. Oh yeah then i want my whole roof and trunk fish eyed with a gangsta lean of runs to the left, to the left...

Shit be hotty, like my duce duces on my honda-ratti... mMMmmmmm

...obee please come with me :) lol

[Odysseus]

Unreal. Fucking unreal.

Cant wait to see how this turns out for you bro...

[Future240]

OP what is the latest news?

[OBEEWON]

Im going to type this big so it can sink in.

We made a written deal for the value of the paint job. You get what you pay for does not fit this scenario.

Jeez people read. He promised a job valued at $2500 for $1000 and logo/advertisement. I SAW pictures of his work. No one can expect some BS like this. I did 3 logos for the guys shop. I start my logos at $900 a piece.

The whole point of this job was to advertise for his shop. So don't tell me my expectations were too high, that's just a dumb thing to say.


As of now I have reported him to the BBB. All Im waiting for to file suit is the written estimate from the shop the car is at.

Spoke to a classmate of mine who is practicing and he says open and shut case. Dude has no chance. I have the agreement that was decided upon, and all our correspondence in emails. Game over.

Pictures of the fix as soon as the new shop gets it moving.

[turbo_dreams]

What are you settling the suit for? it's cool if you don't want to awnser before the trial happens. Hope you at least get a free paintjob and 2k in your pocket for going throught his b.s

[murda-c]

Why the hell would you fuck up a car that is advertising for your body shop?

[OBEEWON]

^^thats what Im saying!

Anyone thinking otherwise is slow.

Im waiting for a written estimate from the shop the car is at now. Add the $500 deposit he got and some for grief and aggrivation. I'll let the judge decide what is fair though.

I forgot to mention I lost a sponsor due to the fact I kept promising them the car and never delivered. Made me look like an @$$

[arkive43]

im still shocked at the response you got back?!?!?!1 shits insane!

but good luck with your car dude, im getting ready for paint my self......im doing all the work myself....

[White Comet]

I think the biggest problem is that your car wasnt hot shit when you dropped it off......

....Your car didnt look great before....
thats why you take it to a god shop. i've never seen anyone take a great looking car in for body work

[Gorilla Unit 33]

thats why you take it to a god shop.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2263329461_f7505c6d01.jpg
god shop?:doh:

[r6_240sx]

I think he should just wrap it in stickers that say the name of the shop that did it -

make sure that everyone knows who did it, and that its "their best work to date"Well the car was suppose to be an advertisement for the body shop, LOL...

----------
OP, hope you get things settled.

This body shop will get what's coming to them. Any place that tells you they're using new paint, but they're really not are flat out liars, PERIOD. A true sign of bad ethics.

Don't take anymore grief from them, don't even give them a chance to re-work on your car. Tell them the only thing you'll accept now is a check to pay another body shop to fix the damages. If they say they'll give you the check in a couple days, tell them to fuck off. A loss is a loss, there should be no excuse for them to give you that check right then and there.

GL.

[White Comet]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2399/2263329461_f7505c6d01.jpg
god shop?:doh:
hahahah touche. thanks for catching my typo. it was just supposed to say thats why you take it to a shop

[smelly240]

^^thats what Im saying!

Anyone thinking otherwise is slow.

Im waiting for a written estimate from the shop the car is at now. Add the $500 deposit he got and some for grief and aggrivation. I'll let the judge decide what is fair though.

I forgot to mention I lost a sponsor due to the fact I kept promising them the car and never delivered. Made me look like an @$$

You also lost time... the most valued thing of all.. especially if u r old like me.

[ixfxi]

Im going to type this big so it can sink in.

We made a written deal for the value of the paint job. You get what you pay for does not fit this scenario.

Jeez people read. He promised a job valued at $2500 for $1000 and logo/advertisement. I SAW pictures of his work. No one can expect some BS like this. I did 3 logos for the guys shop. I start my logos at $900 a piece.

The whole point of this job was to advertise for his shop. So don't tell me my expectations were too high, that's just a dumb thing to say.


As of now I have reported him to the BBB. All Im waiting for to file suit is the written estimate from the shop the car is at.

Spoke to a classmate of mine who is practicing and he says open and shut case. Dude has no chance. I have the agreement that was decided upon, and all our correspondence in emails. Game over.

Pictures of the fix as soon as the new shop gets it moving.

hey big baller


you bartered. if you had the dough which you claim you make in logos, then you'de have no problem paying the shop in money as opposed to bartering/sponsorship.


again, im not saying that you are wrong... but i am saying that i dont think the outcome in court is going to be a situation where you cash in because they did a sub-par job. you'll get some money, yes. just dont expect to win the lotto. i would imagine your gain would be in the hundreds and not thousands, but hey.. best of luck to you.

this body shop sucks, simple as that. they're no different than maaco, 1-day paint, etc.. its all the same bullshit. these shops are equipped to just mask and spray.

[blueshark123]

im sure the court will give him the cost of a estimate to repair his car back. So i would go to some good shops for that. Its like if u got into a crash go get the highest estimates of repair shops and then with the check u do whatever u want to ur car wheter it be go to the most expensive shop or the cheaper one and pocket the rest.

[smelly240]

this body shop sucks, simple as that. they're no different than maaco, 1-day paint, etc.. its all the same bullshit. these shops are equipped to just mask and spray.

except those places dont take WEEKS AND WEEKS to screw up.

[ixfxi]

im sure the court will give him the cost of a estimate to repair his car back. So i would go to some good shops for that. Its like if u got into a crash go get the highest estimates of repair shops and then with the check u do whatever u want to ur car wheter it be go to the most expensive shop or the cheaper one and pocket the rest.

havent you guys watched peoples court? ive mustve watched like 15 years of people court alone, never do the people cash in unless there is some serious damage dont on purpose by the vendor.

in this case, i just see sub-par work. i saw the before before picture of the car, which looked good. then i saw later pics of the car, which looked neglected. then i saw the after the paint photos, which overall look better - but not by much. i mean, the standard of work is sub-par.. but thats all i can say.

this is why barters and such arent easy to prove in court and why you should just leave it to simple payment w/ receipt. once you complicate things with bartering, its hard to establish a value for the work or in this case, damages.

[blueshark123]

well i guess we will see at court what happens that sucks no matter want the outcome but ixfxi dont forget they also messed up new parts on his car like lights seats etc.

[LS240]

Piccies no workie. Can you re-host or something? I'm curious to see this fuck up.

Sorry for your horrible luck. I would be enraged if someone screwed up one of my cars.

[DaPCWiz]

Piccies no workie. Can you re-host or something? I'm curious to see this fuck up.

Sorry for your horrible luck. I would be enraged if someone screwed up one of my cars.

yeah I was thinking the same thing... to both thoughts...

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

you should make a big sticker for the hood that reads:

i got sponsored by __________ and all i got was this lousy paint job.

[GSXRJJordan]

Ob, glad you're taking steps in the right direction. Keep us posted.

[aznpoopy]

havent you guys watched peoples court? ive mustve watched like 15 years of people court alone, never do the people cash in unless there is some serious damage dont on purpose by the vendor.

...

this is why barters and such arent easy to prove in court and why you should just leave it to simple payment w/ receipt. once you complicate things with bartering, its hard to establish a value for the work or in this case, damages.

people's court is not a court of law. it is binding arbitration dressed up to look like a court. granted, the arbitrators are typically former judges, but they are not bound by law like a real judge is. arbitrators can settle things however they feel like it, the law be damned.

obeewon does have a strong position, if what he says is true. what he calls a "written deal" is effectively a binding contract. liability is not a problem; this comes down to a breach of contract.

computation of damages is cake. there are a number of set legal ways to establish damages. in a breach of contract case, the court will typically try to 'mend' the damaged party to restore him to the position he would have been in if the contract had been performed as agreed. in this case, the damages awarded would presumably be the cost to restore his car to the condition it should have been in if the shop had delivered a "$2500" paint job, perhaps minus a bit for the 'quantum meruit' of the shop's work. the value of that is easy to evidence in court; just get a few quotes/pics from some local paint shops. hell, you could probably pull a description off a maaco/etc. website.

[sirhc]

pics dont work

[remi]

pictures no worky here either.

[OBEEWON]

Mike, Im not trying to get paid, and I am no baller. $900 is beans, cheap as hell.

I just want my car fixed. I could care less if I don't see any loot in my pocket. I just want him to pay to fix my car.

If I was trying to make money I would have gotten a lawyer, but thats not me.

[ixfxi]

i hear ya. im just saying, a lot of people want to squeeze the situation and turn a lemon into lemonade... they bring in a car that needs some work, dont pay big bucks, and then expect perfection.

i had one shop tell me they were going to make my car new again, im like get the fuck outta here.. its a 1990 240sx.. the only way it will be new again is if *I* spend the time and money to do all that work. slapping some paint on the bitch will only make it look pretty, but theres a million moldings and plastic parts that need to be REPLACED in order to get close to making the car "like-new"

[Future240]

i hear ya. im just saying, a lot of people want to squeeze the situation and turn a lemon into lemonade... they bring in a car that needs some work, dont pay big bucks, and then expect perfection.

:2c: Doesnt seem like the op is doing that though. Seems like from the get go, he and the dude were supposed to be hooking each other up. OP pays a low amount for some body work, shop gets free publicity win/win. Cept the shop fucked up his car and now he wants it fixed. I don't really understand what all the talk is about high expectations and all that is.

Seems pretty simple to me, if someone takes something of mine under an agreement to do work to it, and the quality of work done is not only subpar I am actually worse off than where I started I would expect them to fix it.

[OBEEWON]

^^ You got it right. I didn't expect perfection. I even told the dude as long as it looks decent I would be happy, its a track car and its going to get jacked again anyway. But for it to look worse than it did after 14 years is completely unacceptable.

Anyway. Pictures of the SC coming up as soon as Stinkey uploads them. 240 should be somewhat ready soon...

[OBEEWON]

I found a deal on a Carbon Kevlar hood that fits worse than a sack of meat at vegan potluck.

I wanted to keep the body stock but thats pretty much over.
Still waiting to hear about the progess on the 14, hopefully soon I can have it back so I can get the SC boosted.

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[99maxgtr]

Dammit OB you change wheel colors more than "insert witty analogy here"!!

[wgJoY]

SC's looking fresh, not too big a fan of the hood, but damn are those some good pictures.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

i like the weave pattern. looks like tweed.

[OBEEWON]

Ish did it for me. He was like:

"Es tweed holmes doo eet, Es gonna be too many pretty! En we gonna put a Hayzeus air freshener in dere. Santa Maria! HEYZEUS!!!"

[blueshark123]

^i dont understand what r u talkin about ?

[I10cruiser]

I forgot to mention I lost a sponsor due to the fact I kept promising them the car and never delivered. Made me look like an @$$

cant you also get money from this?. . since you "lost work" because of his making you wait?

[OBEEWON]

Prob, I just want my car fixed.

The car is being buffed. After 2 days of buffing there are still alot of scratches in the paint. Im not stripping it for repaint untill the summer is over and I get to drive some. Bumpers, skirts, and spoiler still havn't been started on yet.

The car is being buffed. After 2 days of buffing there are still alot of scratches in the paint. Im not stripping it for repaint untill the summer is over and I get to drive some. Bumpers, skirts, and spoiler still havn't been started on yet.

The paint is so thin there are spots that have gone down to metal or close. By far the worst job I've seen.

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The paint is so thin there are spots that have gone down to metal or close. By far the worst job I've seen.

[r6_240sx]

Nice, always good to see things repaired.

[OBEEWON]

5 weeks and alot of money and aggrivation later my car is back home. Not nearly satisfied with the work that was done, nor the service but I'm not leaving the car there any longer. I won't be doing business with friends anymore, I should have known better.

Anyway. I got an estimate to repair everything and it came out to around $4,500. So suit can now be filed against the first retard.

On to pics. Car is still in pieces, lots of work left to do.


http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/558/dsc02384c.jpgWell http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6916/dsc02386c.jpg

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[blueshark123]

i cant follow did u get screwed by ur friend also?

[OBEEWON]

Yes...................

[g-via]

wtf, you got screwed again?!

[arkive43]

dang.....sc looks cool with the yellow though nice job on that.

[Bigsyke]

whats the story on retard #2?

[OBEEWON]

Long story, ECU almost fried, horrible paint and buff job, lots of money...those are the cliff notes.

[r6_240sx]

Prob, I just want my car fixed.

The car is being buffed. After 2 days of buffing there are still alot of scratches in the paint. Im not stripping it for repaint untill the summer is over and I get to drive some. Bumpers, skirts, and spoiler still havn't been started on yet.

The paint is so thin there are spots that have gone down to metal or close. By far the worst job I've seen. When you said this, is this from the first paint job or second?

[robtech]

damn son...


...damn...

[blueshark123]

oh man do it urself next time i swear u have horrible luck on that car

[chibo]

Jesus christ, get a new car so you don't have worse luck when you actually get to drive it.

[93nismo]

with the money you can possibly get from the suit you could pay for a community collage course and the meterials and do it at school.. that way if its fucked up at least you did it and you know how to fix it. im going to school for body and with tools and the course alone will be around 3000 and then like 1000-1500 for paint, filler, sand papper, etc. so if i were you id do that... but i understand were your comeing from if youve got a full time job and such.

[OBEEWON]

When you said this, is this from the first paint job or second?

This was from the 2nd job.

I have had so many issues with this car, I don't think its luck as much as me dealing with retards.

[ixfxi]

i told ya man........ paint and body repair (or worse, restoration) can be quite possibly the WORST experience you'll ever jump in for when it comes to cars....... that, or motor shops.... they can also dick you around, no matter how big or small. ive got one customer who's motor has been at JGY (agh) for years........ and another customer who's 2JZ-GTE build was at MVP for a couple years as well. gotta really be careful about these things... but i would say that paint and body are the absolute worse

i mean, with paint and body they have your ENTIRE car........ entire fucking car, and its at their mercy. so are all your parts and all your hard work, and anything you've done can be easily fucked up if not worked on with care.

my car was close to being a completely fucked project about 2 years ago, but then after all the delays and bullshit i just pulled the plug and went and took my s13 out in PIECES. the doors, fenders, hood, everything... all gone. my r32 gtr seats were upstairs covered in dust, rollbar pieces were missing and took forever to find. tons of missing parts.. no matter, i ended up buying lots of parts new.


i completely feel for ya brotha, and it sounds like you've spent a LOT. the amount you've spent could have gotten you a fuckin nice clean job from the start, with a lot less headaches... as long as you didnt waste your time with the first joker.. and then the second joker for cleanup.

good luck, car looks a lot better but.........you may be better off finding a cleaner chassis and just transplanting everything over. the work will most likely need to be redone if you are picky and still want to be pleased everytime you walk up or show your car to someone.

[silviaz]

I feel very very bad for you.

[r6_240sx]

This was from the 2nd job.

I have had so many issues with this car, I don't think its luck as much as me dealing with retards.WTF, wow. So did your friend just buff the fuck out of it and any spots they burned through they just spot repaired?

[Chad4061]

damn man that sucks bad...i would definitely sue for damages. I got my car in the body shop right now and it better come out lookin clean or i will be pissed and wont be payin a dime till its done right lol...good luck

[slow40sx]

correct me if i'm wrong but you just went through all that and you had to pay for everything and both people who raped you get away clean to rape again????

:wtf:

lets go fuck somebody up :trogdor:

[reccakun08]

man ob i feel sorry for you. however i dont know if going to court with all those fees are going to help you come out on top. even though your classmate says its an open and closed case its just him saying that, it means nothing. Whatever happens keep this thread to date i hope what ever action you take works for the better.

Good luck.

[adam s]

Makes me wanna cry even more seeing you got screwed twice. This crys for a "fuck thieves"

FUCK THIEVES!

[OBEEWON]

Im looking at the estimate here and it totals $4817.72

Im sure I won't get this much, but at this point I want him to pay out of principle. I don't care if I win 1 or 5 grand. I just wan't him to pay. If the judge thinks he is right then I guess I will have to take it back old school. I just got my letter back from the BBB, and as I expected he ignored all thier letters and calls. So I will be taking all that with me to court to show I made substantial effort to resolve this with him.

As for the second "friend". I'm extremely dissappointed in him, but it is what it is. I should have known better

i told ya man........ paint and body repair (or worse, restoration) can be quite possibly the WORST experience you'll ever jump in for when it comes to cars.......

i mean, with paint and body they have your ENTIRE car........ entire fucking car, and its at their mercy. so are all your parts and all your hard work, and anything you've done can be easily fucked up if not worked on with care.

... as long as you didnt waste your time with the first joker.. and then the second joker for cleanup.

good luck, car looks a lot better but.........you may be better off finding a cleaner chassis and just transplanting everything over. the work will most likely need to be redone if you are picky and still want to be pleased everytime you walk up or show your car to someone.


So true. I couldn't sleep comfortably knowing my car was at a shop I didn't trust. Dude, it's crazy how stressful that was. Never again.

This is my 3rd bad expirience with my 3rd car with paint and body guys. They are by far the worst automotive people to deal with generally speaking. I havn't dealt with a honest one yet.

The fact that they have your whole car ties your hands to a certain degree. You have to walk a fine line in not getting them pissed and wrecking your car even worse.

[OBEEWON]

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/6057/dsc02398a.jpg

Replaced the rad friday, today I start the engine stuff. I may have to drop the gas tank as the fuel in it is 4 months old. Hopefully that solves my stumbling and cut out.

[ixfxi]

So true. I couldn't sleep comfortably knowing my car was at a shop I didn't trust. Dude, it's crazy how stressful that was. Never again.

This is my 3rd bad expirience with my 3rd car with paint and body guys. They are by far the worst automotive people to deal with generally speaking. I havn't dealt with a honest one yet.

The fact that they have your whole car ties your hands to a certain degree. You have to walk a fine line in not getting them pissed and wrecking your car even worse.

you're on the right track trying to go through the legal system. it may be a big fuckin pain in the ass, but most likely it will end with results in your favor. furthermore, no businessman likes wasting fucking time in court.. so that will piss him off even more.


your story is just another reason why i tell people not to look JUST at price when doing business with shops. you fuckin cut pennies and dollars out of your build and then you end up getting fucked.......... IN THE ASS. i'm taking a trip over to my welder in 5 minutes and i do 2 things:
1) bring cash
2) tip

why? because thats how you take care of the shops that take care of you. i'm sick of shops that suck ass and i want to make sure this fucker is in business 5-10 years from now because i dont want to hunt around for another good welder. i use the same mentality for my paint shop, etc etc etc

[nathanong87]

hope everything works out in the end...

on my integra i gave the guy 1500$ for a paint job + prep. He painted my car another color. when i asked the shop that did it ... they said "_____ came in here and told us that a punk kid wanted his car painted as cheap as possible , for 500$" .

the shope mixed up leftover paint and painted my car and then on top of that they told me that _____ didn't pay for the 500$ cheap paint job. So 2000$ later.... i have a car painted with leftover paint...

so yea man, i know ur pain. wish the best of luck to u

[SlideWell]

i feel for you. ive seen this kind of situation before to a buddies car that was supposed to be a sponsorship. i had a bad experience before where a "top body shop" fixed and color matched my old s14. they work on ferarris and lambo's all day long, yet came up short on my nissan, hmmmm. then half assed it when i demanded they fix it.
these guys that did ur car should be "banned from the booth for life."