View Full Version : torque spec on arp head bolts sr20
vegas13silvia
06-19-2009, 08:18 PM
im going to rebuild my motor and use arp head studs and i was wondering if anybody knows what the torque specs would be and also does anyone have a link for the torque specs or helms of the sr20 det that would help out alot
also i will be replacing my headgasket and i want to know which head gasket do you guys think will work great and what size mm should i use
and is there anything else that you guys would recommend i change or replace since im gonna be in there. i want a reliable sr for dd. im kinda new to the scene so any help is appreciated thanx
Chrischeezer
06-20-2009, 09:22 AM
I have never seen a problem with the Cometic Head Gaskets
But I use a Cosworth Gasket
ARP head studs @ 85flbs with the ARP lube
jr_ss
06-20-2009, 02:33 PM
Stay away from Cometic on the SR. I have heard so many bad things about them having issues sealing and what not on the SR. Perhaps it's people not taking the correct preparation steps for it or what not.
Apexi, Cosworth, Search...
As for ARP's 4-steps to 80lbs... all to 20, then to 40 and so on.
yabeet
06-20-2009, 02:48 PM
http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/259748-arp-vs-fsm-torque-specs.html
Here you go mate, just did the same a few weeks ago :bigok:
vegas13silvia
06-20-2009, 06:40 PM
thanx alot guys but as far as replacing any head components such as gasket seals is there anything i need to be worried about i know i have to change the head gasket but what else should i look out for
karforty5
06-20-2009, 06:49 PM
Do not go cometic! Apex 1.1 will be fine. I dont kno how much experience you have with head gasket replacements but make sure ur engines timing is set back properly and label every thing.
GSXRJJordan
06-20-2009, 07:00 PM
thanx alot guys but as far as replacing any head components such as gasket seals is there anything i need to be worried about i know i have to change the head gasket but what else should i look out for
In my opinion, Power Enterprise makes the best head gaskets - but Apexi/HKS/Tomei/Greddy all make good products. Since they're all about the same price, I say go for the best one, PE.
As far as stuff to watch out for, it's always nice to replace the intake and exhaust mani gaskets - especially the exhaust mani->head gasket with a 7-layer from Nissan. You should have a valve job done, replace the seals, set lash, and have the head milled a tiny bit to ensure that it's flat.
If the block's out of the car, consider having it milled a tiny bit also... otherwise, you'll have to settle with just scuffing the surface and praying for a good seal lol.
McRussellPants
06-21-2009, 11:49 AM
The new ARPs are shipping with instructions to torque to 105ft/lbs.
ARP tells you to go to 105 when you call them too, but half the time it'll break the stud.
We do 1/2in L19 studs to 110 so there was no way I was gonna do that, and 85 seems to work for everyone.
vespaman
06-21-2009, 12:02 PM
on my arp instruction said to torque to 80ft/lbs in 3 equal steps with arp lube and 85ft/lbs with motor oil.
+1 for apexi metal head gasket
mattro
06-21-2009, 12:10 PM
ive got the com on my sr. ill let you guys know how it works out
jr_ss
06-21-2009, 03:27 PM
ive got the com on my sr. ill let you guys know how it works out
I'm assuming com is short for Cometic and we'll be waiting to hear how bad it leaks...
Just to get it out of the way, I told you so...
Ceepo
06-21-2009, 07:13 PM
I have a Tomei hg love it, as for the studs do steps of 20lbs each till 80... for the studs into the head, just tighten them by hand and the nuts tight to 80lbs... with the arp lube...
240sxdrifted
06-22-2009, 07:04 AM
quick question when you guys say cosmetic...is that the factory one that comes in oem gasket kit???
smelly240
06-22-2009, 07:18 AM
ITS COMETIC - NOT COSMETIC
Its a gasket manufacturer.
The stock on is papery crap. they arent very good.
knate
06-22-2009, 11:39 AM
Go with whatever instructions are included with the studs. Old ARPs were ~80, new ones are 105. The new ones are a harder metal, so to be stretched enough to hold properly, they need to be torqued higher. If you torque the older ARPs to that spec it will overstretch or break them.
McRussel, you've had the new ones break on you? Mine were fine at that, but it is a little scary pulling that hard on them. Were you using the ARP lube?
smelly240
06-22-2009, 02:02 PM
with the arp lube the torque should be 85
i never torqued a headstud on a sr to 105 - especially a arp - they arent preloaded into the block (see golden eagle ones or greddy/cosworth/tomei ones - they have a dogpoint end that loads it in the block).
GSXRJJordan
06-22-2009, 02:51 PM
with the arp lube the torque should be 85
i never torqued a headstud on a sr to 105 - especially a arp - they arent preloaded into the block (see golden eagle ones or greddy/cosworth/tomei ones - they have a dogpoint end that loads it in the block).
Yeah pulling 100lb on anything that goes into aluminum is scary as shit, even if you go with the 1/2" ones.
vegas13silvia
06-23-2009, 04:27 PM
thanx guys appreciate the help
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