View Full Version : Dmax Coilover Write up
iMAGE976
05-08-2009, 07:36 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/image976/Dmax%20Coilovers/LastImport-0.jpg
i just installed some Dmax coilovers in my S13 and this is my review:l101:. 1st off, i took a chance with these coilovers not knowing to much about them and the company. i was hoping that these coilovers would preform and preform well. i spoke with Dmax USA and they told me more about the company and how they are pretty much a drift oriented company. they also said that all their drivers use the same exact coilovers i could buy from their shelfs,a pretty bold statement there if you ask me. Considering the fact that most professional drifters or pro-am drifters ask alot from their coilovers to preform. . . After seeing the coilovers in person you can definitely see the build quality and their use of great materials. the front coilovers actually use steel perches for extra regidity and the rears use aluminum for its regidity and lightness. The welds are super clean and neat. And when it comes down to adjustability , this thing can be super tweeked to what ever you need to do. the fronts have camber plates and it also has the ability to add camber with the upper bolt on the front perches(similar to a centric bolt). So if you need super DEMON camber:naughty: then this is a coilover you might want to consider. i will be running a 17x9 +0 offset in the front of my car so the camber is definitely going to come in handy.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/image976/Dmax%20Coilovers/LastImport-2.jpg
take a look at the pic above and you can see the upper screw hole thats adjustable.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/image976/Dmax%20Coilovers/LastImport-5.jpg
comparing the two
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/image976/Dmax%20Coilovers/LastImport-3.jpg
Camber plates
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/image976/Dmax%20Coilovers/LastImport-6.jpg
Installed.
After i installed it i took it for a spin around the block and to my surprise it was really nice. Comfy at the softest setting and really stiff on full hard. Since i drive this thing every now and then i like it set at full soft. i've taken a few people on ride alongs and they all like the way it handles and drives. i've taken the car on a few spirited runs on and off the freeway on ramps and what not around the block and all that good stuff, and i must say the coils are very responsive and predictable. they are not bone jaring stiff either . they seem to be real progressive when it comes down to dampening. Dmax has made a great product here. These coilovers Rock if ask me but, the next thing for me is a drift day . once i get some seat time at a drift event i will upgrade this thread with my thoughts on its performance at the track. Now as far as getting them rebuilt, they do not do rebuilds because they do not have enough support to deal with it. so insted they will just replace them with new shock bodies if it is under warranty. And if it is passed the warranty period, the customer will be charged to replace the blown shocks. So there is definitely support for these coilovers, and they are local in Socal , Torrance Ca. to be exact.
Dmax Coilovers Range From $1200-$1500 (i Purchased mine from Driveline and picked it up from Dmax USA)
Specs on My Car
S13 Hatch
-Nismo Power Brace
-Steering rack bushings
-New Front LCA
-Tanabe Rear Swaybar
-5 Lug conversion
-Z32 Brakes (front only)
(needs an alignment so no Camber, toe, or caster specs)
But i will have all this info as soon as i get it aligned and counter weighted aswell
karl wasabi
05-08-2009, 07:48 PM
COOL. It's nice to finally see a write-up on these coil overs. I am really considering picking up a set of these as well, but I am a little hesitant since not that many people rock these coilovers.
Thanks for the writeup.
awesomenick
05-08-2009, 08:27 PM
I've been running these for a while now. I LOVE them, expecially for how much I paid. They do exactly what I want.
I was looking for a coilover that wouldn't destroy my internal organs on the streets, but could be stiff enough for some good drifting.
These definitely went past my expectations. I love them! Good job to DMAX.
Also, I have a ton of camber in the front.
jdm538
05-08-2009, 09:21 PM
wow they look pretty! i likem they are nice. they are not bad. they are good.
are those ohlins shocks with adjustable dampening? sick!
besTint
05-09-2009, 12:09 AM
i like the slit guage on the sides that show your strut height. great idea.
Slammed Assassin
05-09-2009, 12:36 AM
thanks for the review.. ive been thinking of picking up a set too..
turtle m3th
05-09-2009, 02:22 AM
Sick sick! I just picked up a set of these for my s14 that should arrive on monday. I'll be sure to either add to this forum to give other people the low-down or just start my own. I checked the coils out over at the dmax booth while i was at d1 and I must say that upon visual inspection they've made a quality product.
Z33dori
05-09-2009, 02:54 AM
wow that took forever...
i still wanna get a set myself... should have tried them... but i'm pretty happy with my PBms
so maybe my next set will be these
Mister.E
05-09-2009, 07:02 AM
i have been running these coilovers for about 3 months now and i fucking love them. they are by far the best coilovers i have ever driven on in any car. they are great for daily driving and they fucking rock at the track. you will not be disappointed when you go out for your first drift day on these.
2fizzleforshizzle
05-09-2009, 09:02 AM
Those look nice:drool: Where did you get them from? Dmaxusa??
nice writeup, I bought these same coilovers last year very satisfied and on top of the great build quality they also offer a very quick and cheap(around $100 per coil iirc) turn around if you were to ever need to send one in for a rebuild and since I'm in So Cal it's even quicker heh.
heavenskrow
05-09-2009, 09:24 AM
can anyone compare these to PBM or Stance Gr+Pro?? I count choose between those 3.....
Om1kron
05-09-2009, 09:26 AM
D max is awesome!
vespaman
05-09-2009, 11:21 AM
looks good
how much are they go for?
iMAGE976
05-09-2009, 01:35 PM
can anyone compare these to PBM or Stance Gr+Pro?? I count choose between those 3.....
The PBMs are a more track oriented coilover from what ive read on-line. as far as stance goes its pretty mixed. i've heard the first gen stance coils were not as good as the current ones available , and that really hurt them coming out for the first time. i've ridden in stance coilovers and they feel kinda stiff at full soft, but not bad for daily driving. its definitely something you would have to get use to. With the dmax it drives so smooth that if the road was smooth you wouldn't know you were on coilovers until a bump comes around and thats when you are reminded that you're on something aftermarket.
iMAGE976
05-09-2009, 01:41 PM
i like the slit guage on the sides that show your strut height. great idea.
i forgot to take a picture of this feature close up , but it can be seen on the first picture on the far left coilover......damn ohh well i guess i'll take a better pic once i put my new rear tires on. But yah this is the other cool thing about these Dmax coilovers , you can see how low you are lowering the coilover without having to guess. the only thing i wish they did with this is put the sticker on at the factory rather than making the buyer put the sticker on themselves to give you an idea of the drop. Numbers next to the lines would have been cool too, but it works.
s13skank
05-09-2009, 01:50 PM
Good review, does anyone out there have kei office suspension? Wanted to get some
BlitzRPS13
05-09-2009, 01:57 PM
Any pics of that slit gauge thing?
lflkajfj12123
05-09-2009, 02:02 PM
Good review, does anyone out there have kei office suspension? Wanted to get some
kei office is now dg5 (pretty much)
karl wasabi
05-09-2009, 02:06 PM
Do you know if they can go as low as PBM coilovers?
fishhouse
05-09-2009, 02:51 PM
hmmm they look like K-Sport pretty hard core. how much are they?
wolfgangstbd
05-09-2009, 02:58 PM
alot of coilovers look alike that doesnt change the performance
fishhouse
05-09-2009, 04:09 PM
alot of coilovers look alike that doesnt change the performance
yeah but those REALLY look like k-sport.
Mister.E
05-09-2009, 04:28 PM
yeah but those REALLY look like k-sport.
actually they REALLY look like D-Max :fawkd:
heavenskrow
05-09-2009, 09:08 PM
The PBMs are a more track oriented coilover from what ive read on-line. as far as stance goes its pretty mixed. i've heard the first gen stance coils were not as good as the current ones available , and that really hurt them coming out for the first time. i've ridden in stance coilovers and they feel kinda stiff at full soft, but not bad for daily driving. its definitely something you would have to get use to. With the dmax it drives so smooth that if the road was smooth you wouldn't know you were on coilovers until a bump comes around and thats when you are reminded that you're on something aftermarket.
dammn, to think i might go with dmax coilovers when im san diego loca(PBM)....
so for ride quality these are great....from what i hear, how are they track wise?
robtech
05-09-2009, 10:25 PM
also want to hear how they compare with PBM
importantone
05-09-2009, 11:53 PM
From the looks of it this is a quality product. It doesn't look anymore like a Ksport than any other coilover does.
s14_mike
05-10-2009, 12:10 AM
i love my DMAX coils super responsive and very comfortable
awesomenick
05-10-2009, 02:37 AM
My fronts are all the way down, with all collars in tact. The rear can go lots lower, but I don't have suspension arms that can clear the subframe, etc. I need to remove collars in front, maybe raise the rear a hair.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b133/nick3889/240sx/1240169957847.jpg
turtle m3th
05-12-2009, 02:01 AM
I just slapped mine on today! I've gotta get the ride height dialed in better tomorrow. Upon first impression of these coils, I would say that you could totally daily these things on full stiff if you aren't a woosey, but I will play with the dampening tomorrow as well. Also, I'll be hitting the track on sunday so I can post up my track experience with them.
iMAGE976
05-13-2009, 01:39 AM
I will be at the track this Saturday , so check out the track up dates and impressions coming soon.
Om1kron
05-13-2009, 02:28 AM
cowboy bebop *thumbs up*
heavenskrow
05-13-2009, 10:35 AM
let me know im stuck between stance/pbm/DMAX
also anyone actually driven one or the other?
tricky_ab
05-13-2009, 01:24 PM
Hmmm...I'm going to take a look at these. Thank for posting up the mini review.
marveluz
05-13-2009, 01:29 PM
Let us know how this goes. I've been running KTS for the past 4 years on the 13 and currently have my eye on Stance GR+ PROs for the 14. I've been told these are very similar to KTS except for this obvioulsy goes lower.
Anyone else have street driving feedback on these?
sleepy180
05-13-2009, 03:21 PM
I've been rocking these for about 4 months. They are awesome. So much adjustability. Very easy to change anything on these. I was going to go with stance but bad reviews of the current batch made me go for these. I daily drive my car about 20 miles every day and they are great. Railroad tracks are the only things that fuck me up. If anyone wants pics I can post some later. Great coilovers and would definitly recommend. Like someone said, set it to fully soft and if you get a nice clean stretch of road you wouldn't even think you were on coilovers. I havn't set it to the stiffest yet but i set it about 8 notches in and it was still good. Great handling.
Can't wait to see the track reviews. I don't track ever, just spirited driving and would definitely recommend these.
EDIT: I have an extra set brand new that i'm going to post in the for sale section after i get out of work if anyone wants it. Just PM me, i can ship too.
Edit 2: Heres my for sale thread if anyones interested. http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/256444-d-max-coilovers-brand-new-will-ship.html
Sold my DG-5 and when with Stance (blah down graded)... As far I can say there is nothing better than DG-5. But since I read so much good thing about the D-max, I guess I will give it a try. FOR SURE, my next coilover will be D_MAX
these things looks so nice i wouldnt want to put them on my car lol. i should put them on the wall.hahaha
turtle m3th
05-13-2009, 09:14 PM
I will be at the track this Saturday , so check out the track up dates and impressions coming soon.
What track are you gonna be at Sunday? Cause I'm gonna be popping my dmax cherry at nos center on Sunday!
iMAGE976
05-14-2009, 10:38 AM
i will be at WSIR Balcony on Saturday not sunday.... but yah i'll be poppin some cherries too.
turtle m3th
05-14-2009, 07:31 PM
Hahaha! I saw what I wanted to see. I don't know how i read sunday, but anyways looking forward to what you've got to say about them because I know I can't wait to shed some light on this subject. Have fun out there mang!
Edit: Oh yeah, i've been dailying on these for a few days now on full stiff and they are smooth! Totally tolerable if anyone wants to know.
awesomenick
05-14-2009, 09:41 PM
I've tracked them already. They're decent. I really love these for the price.
I would get sick of PBM/ Megan/ etc. really fast because of how stiff they always feel. These really are so so comfortable compared to my friends' cars.
I really would recommend these to anybody looking for something entry level. They work great out of the box, at least for what I do with them.
ErocKs13
05-14-2009, 11:22 PM
Does anyone have these that have also had the Tein HE's on a s13? Right now i have the tein He's but am looking for something different and better, and this car is heavily tracked. Thanks for any input
iMAGE976
05-16-2009, 01:37 AM
HE's are cool but i still like the Dmax coils over the HE's ....There's just so much more you can do with the Dmax coils adjustment wise..
ErocKs13
05-16-2009, 05:11 AM
^ cool thank you. another question for you tho, My HE's are spring rate 8/6 and they are kind of stiff on the streets, if i got the 10/8's Dmax's would it be comparable ride quality since all of you are saying that they ride really smooth on the street? thanks again guys
turtle m3th
05-16-2009, 10:46 AM
^ cool thank you. another question for you tho, My HE's are spring rate 8/6 and they are kind of stiff on the streets, if i got the 10/8's Dmax's would it be comparable ride quality since all of you are saying that they ride really smooth on the street? thanks again guys
Dmax coils are also rated at 8/6k springs so i'm not sure if your gonna see much difference in the ride as far as that goes, but I do know that the dmax coils are valved to be very smooth and predictable. Bernard from dmax used to rock HE's and he swears by dmax coilovers now! But whatevs, gonna throw out some real reviews soon.
heavenskrow
05-16-2009, 08:58 PM
Dmax coils are also rated at 8/6k springs so i'm not sure if your gonna see much difference in the ride as far as that goes, but I do know that the dmax coils are valved to be very smooth and predictable. Bernard from dmax used to rock HE's and he swears by dmax coilovers now! But whatevs, gonna throw out some real reviews soon.
will be looking forward for those track reviews from NOS !
oh yeah what other coilvers have u tried??
az_240
05-17-2009, 04:46 AM
Are fork style rear mounts available for the z32 rear upright?
iMAGE976
05-17-2009, 12:30 PM
I think the z32 bottoms are available but are special order items...don't quote me on that but I'll try to get a hold of dmax for yah to find out...
heavenskrow
05-18-2009, 11:09 PM
where are teh reviewssss?
yeti303
05-19-2009, 08:32 PM
let me know im stuck between stance/pbm/DMAX
also anyone actually driven one or the other?
ive had these for a few months now...done a couple track events...i like them alot...i can slam my car and it feels really good when drifing not super stiff like my buddies megans...there nice..really decent for daily driving...i run them full stiff all the time and its not to bad..only when the pavement is torn up....heres pics of my car.....
before...on tokico blues...
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120238.jpg
after....
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300084-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120244.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120245.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300075-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300101.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300103-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300118.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3130313.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300119.jpg
i like them alot :)
gijoe69
05-19-2009, 09:31 PM
dang crazy low for so cal, sucks going up driveways and dips eh lol
isixphill
05-21-2009, 05:06 PM
im also looking into these coils but i cannot decide between dmax and stance gr+pro[ssd].. im mainly looking for a coilover that will be stiff for track because i have a car im going to be tracking alot but not boner stiff like my last coilovers (HKS Hypermax2) because this is also my daily
stiffness on the road doesnt bug me at all.. anymore lol
post up how they perfome at the track please!!!!
yeti303
05-21-2009, 06:59 PM
i liked mine on the track pretty responsive..good dampning i like them alot,,but they are my 1st coilovers so i duno.. but compared to my friends megans there soo much better...
JDMslide180
05-23-2009, 12:15 PM
nice write up man.... i am defenetly leaning towards d max or powered by max!!!!
looks like great quality....
musikjunkie
05-23-2009, 02:07 PM
nice write up man.... i am defenetly leaning towards d max or powered by max!!!!
looks like great quality....
i agree seriously i dont know which one to choose betweem the two pbm or dmax. but from the looks of it both are great products. i just want to make sure if i use my money i want to make sure i dont regret it..
turtle m3th
05-23-2009, 02:16 PM
Alright, I'll throw in my daily/track experience with these coilovers. I'll start off with daily. When I first put these coilovers on I drove them around on full stiff. They are very responsive in full stiff mode and ride fairly smooth, but when the road sucks you'll know it, but this is pretty much the same story with any coilover on full stiff. I drove around like this for 2 weeks or so, then before I took it to the track I put them on full soft cause the lady was riding along and the difference is amazing. I couldn't even tell I was riding on coilovers. Just plain smooth and absorbs bumps and dips very well. Based on a daily aspect I'd would recommend these coils. Now on to the track experience. Even though I sucked all day, i could say that these coils handle very well and were predictable at the track. I had put them back to full stiff, but later on in the day realized that i needed to soften up the rear cause I was running a lot of tire pressure in the back. I honestly would prefer these coilovers to be a bit stiffer on the track though. Don't get me wrong, they do feel fantastic and handle the same, but i'd prefer a bit more aggressive of a feeling out of these. It could also be due to the fact that I do not have aftermarket sways yet, so I'll reserve judgment on that. Overall, for the price I'd say scoop some of these things up if you get the chance to! I'm also gonna check into spring rates soon as well, so i'll keep you guys posted on that too.
PBM makes a great coilover! I know I'm gonna make this decision a little harder on people because I have the dmax coils, but I willl be rocking PBM coilovers when my car goes full track! or did i just make it a little easier? haha! From my personal experience with both of these coilovers the dmax coils are a better all around package and PBM is for the track whores or just plain G's.
heavenskrow
05-23-2009, 10:20 PM
Alright, I'll throw in my daily/track experience with these coilovers. I'll start off with daily. When I first put these coilovers on I drove them around on full stiff. They are very responsive in full stiff mode and ride fairly smooth, but when the road sucks you'll know it, but this is pretty much the same story with any coilover on full stiff. I drove around like this for 2 weeks or so, then before I took it to the track I put them on full soft cause the lady was riding along and the difference is amazing. I couldn't even tell I was riding on coilovers. Just plain smooth and absorbs bumps and dips very well. Based on a daily aspect I'd would recommend these coils. Now on to the track experience. Even though I sucked all day, i could say that these coils handle very well and were predictable at the track. I had put them back to full stiff, but later on in the day realized that i needed to soften up the rear cause I was running a lot of tire pressure in the back. I honestly would prefer these coilovers to be a bit stiffer on the track though. Don't get me wrong, they do feel fantastic and handle the same, but i'd prefer a bit more aggressive of a feeling out of these. It could also be due to the fact that I do not have aftermarket sways yet, so I'll reserve judgment on that. Overall, for the price I'd say scoop some of these things up if you get the chance to! I'm also gonna check into spring rates soon as well, so i'll keep you guys posted on that too.
PBM makes a great coilover! I know I'm gonna make this decision a little harder on people because I have the dmax coils, but I willl be rocking PBM coilovers when my car goes full track! or did i just make it a little easier? haha! From my personal experience with both of these coilovers the dmax coils are a better all around package and PBM is for the track whores or just plain G's.
alright great review man. Thanks to u i will be getting PBM.
though my car is mainly a daily...when im in my car i want it to be rough, and not some luxury BS.
And maybe cuz im just a plain G =]
thanks dog. finally cleared my head on what coilovers to get.
turtle m3th
05-25-2009, 09:11 PM
^ buy a super comfortable seat then, otherwise you're gonna be feeling like a running back at the age of 40 every time you get out of your car from a socal drive.
heavenskrow
06-04-2009, 07:04 PM
got the DMax coilovers installed at PBM.... and wow these are super comfy on soft
def good as my kouki is a daily....
havent taken it to full stiff yet...
overall amazing coilovers for the price and a daily/track
dts13
06-06-2009, 11:37 AM
It is all true, Got my Dmax installed and at full soft, feels as good as stock but can feel the difference in hard cornering already. Played with the settings a bit with a buddy that owns a set of Stance GR+ on his coupe and he loves the Dmax over his Stance's. Great Coilover for the price. Recommend!
Pandapants
06-11-2009, 10:27 PM
does anybody know what the height of the springs on these coils are?
Leo-kun
06-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Would guys recomend this coliover for a beginner drifter? From all the responses, it seems like a great product! Dmax over Stance?
Dousan_PG
06-12-2009, 09:36 AM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
BustedS13
06-12-2009, 11:01 AM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
this
also, this is a great smiley
:l101:
the truth. i remember people claiming that the megans were the same as apexi. the dmax do look nice though.
robtech
06-12-2009, 11:43 AM
thats how its always gonna be...one guy will get something and say its great then everyone else will...then another guy will get something and say its better..and everyone else will too...its just the nature of things...
personally im getting pbm. i like the spring rates, i like the fact they go retarded low without cutting off collars n stuff, i've some real good stuff, and they're cheaper than cusco, lol
S14Serge
06-12-2009, 11:52 AM
Ive been looking for a good set of coilovers to replace my shock and spring combo, and your write-up made me wanna get a set of these D-Max coilovers! Thanks!
BlitzRPS13
06-13-2009, 03:06 AM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
So what.. you think dmax are shit coils or ? I don't see how it's a FAD.. i wanna buy nice coils for my car.. i'm looking at these.. i have racing gears on my car.. which are like $2500.. but they are shit for the roads here.. way too fuckin stiff... need something more streetable.
DataXUnknown
06-13-2009, 03:21 AM
I just want them because the colors! They match my car and steering wheel :)
BlitzRPS13
06-13-2009, 01:51 PM
I just want them because the colors! They match my car and steering wheel :)
That's the only reason? jesus.
ILoveJDM
06-13-2009, 01:59 PM
thats how its always gonna be...one guy will get something and say its great then everyone else will...then another guy will get something and say its better..and everyone else will too...its just the nature of things...
kind of like how kouki aero was hot 4 years ago, then everyone was like OMG origin, then origin sucks, BN IS HOTNESS, 326 power this and that
but now everyone wants kouki aero again. backwerdss
beeracing s14
07-17-2009, 08:28 PM
i just installed my dmax on my 180sx.. .. and to be honest with you all, I LOVE THE FUCKA!
Nismology
07-17-2009, 08:58 PM
I wanted to buy some, figured i'd go for something cheaper first but this has opened my eyes. Man they look so sexy :D
funes
07-17-2009, 09:42 PM
nice i am looking for coils suspension but first i need to save some money.
btw are those coilovers confortable for street?
beeracing s14
07-17-2009, 11:58 PM
yes they are comfy in the streets as if im still running with my tokicos. hahaha
zorak
07-18-2009, 12:19 AM
if you guys have ever seen a doriten, then you know there are a ton of different coilovers. its not even funny.
I counted at least 4 brands no one has ever mentioned on zilvia. ever.
D-max pays for the 2-page ads btw. full color too.
but if its good enough for D1SL, then its most likely more than enough for me.
turtle m3th
07-18-2009, 01:54 AM
I'm going on 3 months with these now and have nothing but positive things to say about them. Super comfy for daily driving and super responsive dampening! At the track is also great. You can actually feel your suspension working rather than your car just bouncing from super high spring rates or out of this world stiff dampening. Surely a great coilover for the beginner with the 8/6k springs as well. Corrections are less noticeable and are a little more forgiving. Like someone mentioned earlier, there are always going to be fads, but with time there are improvements, so there is always going to be a top dog, a.k.a. the shit at the moment. It's how the industry works.
mugendork
07-18-2009, 02:24 AM
as a former employee of megan, I now can say that yes, the lower end apexi coilovers are identical to the megan streets, even made in the same exact factory. Everything from the pillow balls to the shocks is interchangeable....hehe... And yes the dmax do look pretty. But honestly, to any real driver, nearly any coilover 1-2k is similar.... step into the world of ohlins, bilstein, penski and others....then you can feel the difference. Especially in your wallet.
usdm180sx
07-18-2009, 12:21 PM
I rode on these on the softest setting in an s13. Compared to DG-5 and Kei Office they ride really well, like stock. Haven't rode in them for spirited driving yet though.
Nismology
07-18-2009, 12:27 PM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
Its not people jumping on a band wagon its called progress.
R&D find better ways to make drift spec coilovers (:
Quit being a butt hole pl0x
/thread
how do these compare to other coilovers out there?
I'm thinking for an extra couple of hundred bucks you can have a set of KW Variant 3 coilovers, Tein Mono Flex or Tanabe Sustec Pro DD. Any of these would be more than enough for most people here.
Of course I'm not comparing these to coilovers that cost 5k+ like Moton, Aragosta etc..
iMAGE976
07-18-2009, 11:00 PM
Just another thought to anyone buying or to those that already have coilovers is this, "GET THEM CORNER WEIGHTED!" balanced what ever......it makes a world of a difference. when i first slapped these coilovers on they felt great. and now that i just got them corner weighted and balanced they feel even better. i mean after all i didn't buy these just to lower my car like some people do , i actually use them for what they're worth. i took these to el toro back in June and they were great. very predictable and smooth during the transitions. i was even able to control the car on the big 90+mph sweeper with no sweat. So with that said , Aug 1st i will be tracking my car again with the new alignment and set up i have .....and boy i can't wait. Stay tuned i'll update this review again....:)
iMAGE976
07-18-2009, 11:01 PM
I rode on these on the softest setting in an s13. Compared to DG-5 and Kei Office they ride really well, like stock. Haven't rode in them for spirited driving yet though.
Norm, Go to the EL toro Drift event and i'll take u for a ride....:ddog:
Shadytrixta1
07-19-2009, 04:01 PM
in for track updates
bankofs14
07-19-2009, 04:16 PM
Just another thought to anyone buying or to those that already have coilovers is this, "GET THEM CORNER WEIGHTED!" balanced what ever......it makes a world of a difference. when i first slapped these coilovers on they felt great. and now that i just got them corner weighted and balanced they feel even better. i mean after all i didn't buy these just to lower my car like some people do , i actually use them for what they're worth. i took these to el toro back in June and they were great. very predictable and smooth during the transitions. i was even able to control the car on the big 90+mph sweeper with no sweat. So with that said , Aug 1st i will be tracking my car again with the new alignment and set up i have .....and boy i can't wait. Stay tuned i'll update this review again....:)'
wow i didnt know coilovers actually need to be balanced.... how much does corner weighting cost and what kind of shops do it?
marveluz
07-19-2009, 09:06 PM
^ you learn something new everyday. you should be able to get it done at shops that cater to sports cars and whatnot. its done with your alignment.
Silverbullet
07-20-2009, 03:23 PM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
SO TRUE
http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/images/stancevs.jpg
This was posted by a DMAX sales rep.
look at that linear plot :ughd: That results in way over damping for high velocity piston movement.
They certainly do look slightly better than Stance, but still a far cry from what ppl claim them to be. Still a good value for $1000 tho for bolt on coilovers.
Shadowhunter
07-20-2009, 07:26 PM
Nice review!Thanks for the writeup.
jdanger
07-22-2009, 03:33 AM
aw no more... need more reviews... will not me anyways... i was sold since da furst page hahah... ill be sporting these coilovers n the near future, and dis review helped alot thanks everyone
yeti303
07-22-2009, 08:01 PM
still rocking my dmax ! love them on the track !
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/DSC_0127.jpg
iMAGE976
07-22-2009, 11:16 PM
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wow i didnt know coilovers actually need to be balanced.... how much does corner weighting cost and what kind of shops do it?
to answer your question i paid 250 to get my car corner balanced and aligned. A reputable alignment shop is usually your best bet. i got mine done at WestEnd in Gardena. i noticed a difference once i took it for a test drive. The car Feels more planted now and balanced. i also upgraded my Stock tension rods and RUCAs to some peak performance ones. So that helped out too. But Aug couldnt take any longer to get here for me to try them out at the track.
jdanger
07-23-2009, 05:07 AM
still rocking my dmax ! love them on the track !
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/DSC_0127.jpg
nice!!! perfect ride height and nice smoke
SC_S13
08-14-2009, 09:38 PM
Just put mine on, have yet to get them corner balanced and aligned yet tho. They're on the softest setting for now, and they're pretty excellent. the travel is still very small but comfy enough for dd for sure. will post back when i get everything aligned and balanced, and turn up the stiffness.
chuki monsta s13
01-26-2010, 06:46 PM
compared to megans do these go low?.. im thinking about buyin these for my s13 they look dope
DRIFTER-M
01-26-2010, 08:51 PM
Yes, I believe these do go lower than Megans.
yeti303
01-27-2010, 08:11 AM
yes they go way low im on 15s right now il post pics in a few weeks with my new wheels 17s n kit n what not haha love these coilovers
xpinoyxmk
01-27-2010, 08:23 AM
They dont go way low but do go lower than Megans. If you want coils that go way low, then get stance or pbm. These coils were made to perform and thats exactly what they do :)
om3ga
07-04-2010, 03:40 AM
I just put 10/8 springs on a set of these tonight.
Rambo
09-21-2010, 10:27 AM
I just put 10/8 springs on a set of these tonight.
OM NOM NOM. review with 10/8 repping please.
nathanong87
09-21-2010, 11:33 AM
damx is the new fad coilover
ive been around long enough
first it was tein HE
greatest coilover EVER!
then JIC
oh its way bettter then tein!
then there was some others
and then people got cheap and super newb influx
megan is better then apex!
then came stance
stance is the SHIT SON!
and then PBM!
made for drifters!
and now D-Max.
and then dousan said dg-5 was the greatest and when people looked up how much they cost, dousan remained the only one with them =(
Psychomoongoose
09-21-2010, 12:24 PM
ive had these for a few months now...done a couple track events...i like them alot...i can slam my car and it feels really good when drifing not super stiff like my buddies megans...there nice..really decent for daily driving...i run them full stiff all the time and its not to bad..only when the pavement is torn up....heres pics of my car.....
before...on tokico blues...
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120238.jpg
after....
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300084-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120244.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3120245.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300075-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300101.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300103-1.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300118.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3130313.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/dmax-s13/P3300119.jpg
i like them alot :)
:aw:GAH! That cell phone is HELLA TUFF!!! I cant believe it doubles as a jack stand!!!! What model is that?
joshchewuhh
09-21-2010, 12:47 PM
have some on my coupe for a while now!
love them! psh people saying they don't go low, but fuck take out a couple collers in the front and its on the floor! the ride is superb! I like them way better than my stance gr+'s.
Don't doubt these!
510-SR20DET
09-21-2010, 01:11 PM
how long will these last? lol
tricky_ab
09-21-2010, 04:47 PM
I just bought a set but my car won't be ready for a while...It came down to reviews from people who own a set and various magazines I've read reviews on them. I've seen enough D1SL videos (And now D1GP) of Fujio Akihito killing on these coilovers (It doesn't hurt that he's an incredible driver).
I believe I made the right choice.
Rambo
09-21-2010, 07:55 PM
Where can I get a set of these? and somewhere that posts to Austraaaalia.
direktdrive
09-21-2010, 11:24 PM
Nice writeup!
DMAX coilovers are full of win. I've done about 3 drift events with them on my S14 and they run like a champ. They're great DD coilovers too.
direktdrive
09-21-2010, 11:32 PM
Where can I get a set of these? and somewhere that posts to Austraaaalia.
Sometimes they are on sale in the Advertiser Specials and Sales forum. About a year ago I got my DMAX coilovers for about $1100 shipped. So check out that forum frequently to keep up with the deals. If you really want to get them now, you could always hit up frsport.com. They retail about $1200 minus shipping.
xpinoyxmk
09-22-2010, 11:59 AM
how long will these last? lol
Coming up on a year. Almost every week i do a little sliding and do an event once a month. No problems yet.:coolugh:
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/xpinoyxmk/93%20240sx/Rakinit004.jpg
Rambo
09-23-2010, 06:28 PM
Sometimes they are on sale in the Advertiser Specials and Sales forum. About a year ago I got my DMAX coilovers for about $1100 shipped. So check out that forum frequently to keep up with the deals. If you really want to get them now, you could always hit up frsport.com. They retail about $1200 minus shipping.
Sweet, cheers dude! Now to decide, these or super drifts heh
phobos
09-25-2010, 03:08 AM
SO TRUE
http://www.tougefactory.com/blog/images/stancevs.jpg
This was posted by a DMAX sales rep.
look at that linear plot :ughd: That results in way over damping for high velocity piston movement.
They certainly do look slightly better than Stance, but still a far cry from what ppl claim them to be. Still a good value for $1000 tho for bolt on coilovers.
I know this was posted like a year ago, but can someone help me interpret this graph?
What exactly is the "N" value?
Is the m/sec meters/second?
And why are there two lines? Is this a parabola of some sort?
Are we ideally looking for a classic parabola or one sort of inverted in the begining i.e. DG-5 line?
And are there any more graphs with other various brands?
Silverbullet
09-26-2010, 08:17 PM
what a coincidence im surfing sites i havn't been on in a long time before bed!
What exactly is the "N" value?
N is Newtons. It is a unit of force in metric units, similar to how a pound force is a unit of force in English units.
Is the m/sec meters/second?
yes
And why are there two lines? Is this a parabola of some sort?
The shocks we use control both rebound and bump. If you think about it, one is the opposite of the other, and that is exactly what the graph shows. Upper portion is showing rebound force, the lower portion is showing bump. It is not always oriented like this, however you can tell which is which by knowing that bump requires less damping force.
Are we ideally looking for a classic parabola or one sort of inverted in the begining i.e. DG-5 line?
The trend DG-5 shows is the exact opposite of what you want from a good shock. Unfortunately just because a D1GP drift racer uses a product dosn't mean it is a good product. They are not the pinnacles of motorsport technology.
And are there any more graphs with other various brands?
yes
Shock Absorber - Shock Dyno - Reading Shocks - Circle Track Magazine (http://www.circletrack.com/techarticles/shock_absorber_shock_dyno/index.html)
*gasp* from a circle track site.
kalypso123
09-27-2010, 10:04 PM
graph is pretty cool
phobos
10-16-2010, 04:19 PM
Wow, some legitimate info; Thank you Silverbullet.
phobos
10-16-2010, 04:47 PM
And are there any more graphs with other various brands?
yes
Where are they usually located? Company's main pages?
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