do you REALLY need aftermarket toe arms?

[fishhouse]

it seems like stock toe arms will adjust toe just fine on slammed cars, and i have an energy suspension bushing kit so id have pretty solid bushings in them.

but am i wrong about them being able to adjust? would there be THAT huge of a performance difference?

hmmmm

(trying to save some money lol)

opinions. my car is mostly a track car BTW.

[OptionZero]

when you start adjusting other things, like height and camber, it's nice to have the adjustability in the rest of the arm and pillowballs

someone else will explain it better than me

The way I've always imagined it, . . . picture a triangle, and you fiddle with the length and angle of one arm. The other two sides will have to change position or length or else you no longer have a triangle

[fishhouse]

when you start adjusting other things, like height and camber, it's nice to have the adjustability in the rest of the arm and pillowballs

someone else will explain it better than me

The way I've always imagined it, . . . picture a triangle, and you fiddle with the length and angle of one arm. The other two sides will have to change position or length or else you no longer have a triangle

for sure. im just trying to figure out if the "triangle" can be adjusted properly with the stocker with good eccentrics. i guess i should just get aftermarket stuff.

[xs240]

no it cant be 'properly' adjusted. Stock arms are non adjustable and only give so much adjustment for variation. Go all the way or don't at all. Don't get eccentric bushings thats just stupid... be patient and save money > get adjustable arms with spherical bushings which will articulate properly, be precise, have no bind, no friction, and do the job right... why are s chassis owners so cheap...


(trying to save some money lol)

opinions. my car is mostly a track car BTW.

wtf just wtf........

[fishhouse]

why are s chassis owners so cheap...


because there are entirely toooo many things to spend money on with these damn cars! i have a retarded amount of money into mine and i feel like its still stock lol. and im unemployment now so im poor for the time being lol.

[usdm180sx]

If you lower your car below a certain point then yes you need them to get a proper alignment.

[fishhouse]

If you lower your car below a certain point then yes you need them to get a proper alignment.
thank you sir! clean response. all i needed lol. adjustable arms it is.

[lflkajfj12123]

if you lower your car a decent amount

your subframe will bang

[datboibrad]

no it cant be 'properly' adjusted. Stock arms are non adjustable and only give so much adjustment for variation. Go all the way or don't at all. Don't get eccentric bushings thats just stupid... be patient and save money > get adjustable arms with spherical bushings which will articulate properly, be precise, have no bind, no friction, and do the job right... why are s chassis owners so cheap...



wtf just wtf........

ignorance of how parts work and work together. and their individual levels of importance.

[FaLKoN240]

I was gonna say once your car gets to a certain ride height toe arms are a MUST because you have to adjust it with camber.

I had my car tucking 18s and I couldn't go more positive than -4.5* of camber without fucking up my toe settings.

If I had toe arms I could've fixed that.

[h22speed]

how much for the girl in your avatar FaLKoN240?


sorry, just had to ask after reading it :), back on topic: its nice to have the adjustability, and i entirely agree with xs240, save your money and do it right

[TUnity2]

i have aligned more different 240 setups then i can count on 2 hands and stock toe arms become useless when you lower your car. There just isnt enough adjustment unless you want to run a lot of - camber in the rear, which i dont.

[jskateborders]

well if your trying to go low, the money you're saving on toe arms will be spent replacing unevenly worn tires once a month.

[cxlo8331]

Buy the toe arms.

Excessive toe will kill tires fast.

Save up and do it right.

Then get proper alignment.

[240esux]

who in socal does proper alignments??? i have all the links for the rear and i need an alignment. lmk. thanks:fart:

[cxlo8331]

drift speed or hiros

[murda-c]

how did this thread get so long when the right answer was posted after like 2 posts? lol

[fliprayzin240sx]

You wont need aftermarket Toe-arms...IF YOU DONT PLAN ON GOING THAT LOW. If you plan on slamming it, you will need toe arms. For you to adjust your alignment (camber) within spec, you will run out of Toe arms adjustment before you get there if your slammed.

[garagelu]

I have a s14 that has 17 x 10 and 245/45/17 and its sitting pretty much right on top of the tire. My car definately is not slammed status but low enough for my taste. I have battle version camber arms and when I got an alignment my stock eccentric toe adjustment got me within oem alignment specs so I have no need to waste 200 some dollars on toe arms....yet.

[fishhouse]

how did this thread get so long when the right answer was posted after like 2 posts? lol
i was thinking the same thing lol


OK im buying the toe arms! lol SPL parts :)

my car is collar to collar on Stance. its relatively low.

[FaLKoN240]

In defense of anyone wanting to buy toe arms, my friend told me once the alignment is adjusted the toe arms have deflection that really doesn't keep the toe static for say on rebound and compression of the suspension...

Or something like that.

I am gonna get Toe arms and stop fucking around, never had em before on my next car.