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punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 04:58 PM
:confused: so ive searched and read and researched, and come up with squat. I love my car. its a phat car. its s14 240 for god sakes, but im losing faith in my car. when i start it up in the morning. (or afternoon or night) and the car is running cold, she runs like a horse in the wind. breaks loose like i want, shifts like i want, scoots like i want. Untill i get like a mile down the road and she warms up.... then all that power that i know she just had, is gone. the low end is the same, but from 3000-5500 it feels like somthing is bogging the motor down. could this be a timing issue?
(i know the timing is different during warm up) or an air fuel ratio issue? my mods are a stock air box with lower half removed and a k&n stock replacement filter. i have cleaned the MAF with carb cleaner, and the throttle body. i have no cat... on a stock exhaust.
(including pre muffler. could it be clogged?) any in put would be appreciated.

s14slide
03-24-2003, 06:03 PM
could be something w/ the cold start system. something like the engine temp sensor getting stuck and making the ecm think the engine is cold even though it's warm and that would make it run really rich(see cold engine). could try that. do you have a CEL on? If you do, have you checked the codes?

AKADriver
03-24-2003, 06:03 PM
Put the cat back on.

Seriously, it could be the problem. S14s are OBD2, meaning they have a second O2 sensor after the cat. When the engine's warm, the ECU will expect the cat to be working. When it sees the same O2 sensor reading before and after it may very well cut power.

And if it's not the problem, then you'll have done the responsible thing anyway. THERE IS NO REASON TO REMOVE A CATALYST FROM A STREET DRIVEN CAR.

Beyond that, check the condition of your coolant temperature sensor and its wiring to the ECU, though I don't think that's the problem if your temp gauge still works.

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 06:07 PM
the only codes i have ever gotten were a 34 (knock) when using crap gas. (now using 93 religiously) and as to the cat. the previous owner gutted it.

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 06:08 PM
thanks for replys.

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 06:18 PM
aka...you reminded me of something... i went out side to check.
on the exhaust pipe... there is what looks like a ground strap
disconeccted after the cat

x==={=cat=}^=====premuffler======muffler
"^" is where the strap is...
x is ??? an 02 sensor? ( plugged in to a harness)

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 07:17 PM
ok.... the cat im referring to like a dumbass is the dummy cat
(dumbass dumb cat heehee) :D so i do have the stock cat.
which makes me ask.. should i just go ahead and replace the o2 sensor. ( this weekend im doing a plug,fuelfilter,wires tuneup)
thanx again for any response.

Red
03-24-2003, 09:31 PM
I have the same year car. also an (se) if you find out what this is I would like to know..

I just did emmisions.. out goes the cat. :) Who need clean air? I'm not breathing the stuff... the Honda is..

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 09:39 PM
i posted on 240.org too.. ill let you know. btw good improvement after you lost your cat/premuffler? any problems?
and... how do you like your popcharger?

AKADriver
03-24-2003, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Red
I just did emmisions.. out goes the cat. :) Who need clean air? I'm not breathing the stuff... the Honda is..

... :rolleyes:

Red
03-24-2003, 09:56 PM
The POP-Charger is nice adds some deep intake noise after and a good kick after 4000rpm.. I wish I would have got one with the full pipe to the intake tho.

The Cat will be off very soon. I have 3 options

1. Have my bro weld me one
2. Order it friday from Enjuku
3. Buy this neat maxima pipe with sound killin stuff in it and cut and refit it.

I will decide by Friday and once I get it in and on i'll let you know!

punkblackS14
03-24-2003, 10:11 PM
i posted on 240.org too.. ill let you know. btw good improvement after you lost your cat/premuffler? any problems?
and... how do you like your popcharger?