Pics of the new engine with the mani and turbo on it

[oberkill]

Posted this a few other places figured a few people on here may be interested as well...

Did some test fitting today to make sure everything will go together. I wasnt sure if the T28 would clear the Nismo motor mounts but I have a little room to spare so no worries. Here are a few pics, still have some work to do on the engine. Also have to clean it up some as it is more than a little dirty! LOL I am polishing a bunch of crap, I'll post pics when I'm done... ;)

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/manion.jpg

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/manion2.jpg

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/maniturbo.jpg

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/maniturbo4.jpg

Alan

[DMC]

dang man that looks real nice, thats a KA right?! whered u get your manifold and turbo, how much were they?

[Jeff240sx]

Originally posted by DMC
dang man that looks real nice, thats a KA right?! whered u get your manifold and turbo, how much were they?

Redtop SR.
-Jeff

[96SEChick]

SR-ry, I thought it was a kitty KAT too--with a painted valvecover. :( DOH!!!!! :eek: I was looking for the "intercooled" embossed on it, so I didn't think it was an SR

Looks awesome so far, though! Can't wait to see it in the car! :drool:

[HaLo]

The head is so wide on a SR I can't believe you could confuse them ;)

Just kidding. The difference is noticeable however. ;)

[DMC]

haha sorry i thought the exhaust was on the otherside of srs hmm whatever dont know y i thought that. by the way lauren your website doesnt work.

[oberkill]

LOL... yeah its a SR. Still waiting on the new bearings to come in and I have to make up the magnets for the SDS system but its close to ready to go back in. I still have some cleanup work to do on the car too. It is apart right now for some serious power washing!

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/front.jpg

http://www.project240.com/pictures/240/front2.jpg

Alan

[91blk240]

and the oilcap is on the otherside on the KA :)

[MorganS13]

i get more and more turbo envy by the day :(

[Steeles]

what manifold is that your running? (now that its established that its an SR ;) )

[DMC]

SR-ry, I thought it was a kitty KAT too--with a painted valvecover. DOH!!!!! I was looking for the "intercooled" embossed on it, so I didn't think it was an SR
what do u mean kitty?
edit: I get it IM A DUMBASS

[96SEChick]

Originally posted by DMC
what do u mean kitty?
edit: I get it IM A DUMBASS

LOL--just a stupid play on the SR & KA thing (SR-ry)......

oberkill-- your car's naked!

[uiuc240]

Alan...what mani is that?

PM me with a price when you get a chance.

Eric

[Foxcolt]

Looks like a KMC to me, or copy.

An interesting thing to do for you guys out there looking to buy these manifolds.

Take a look at the number 1 & 2 runners on the KMD/copy manifolds.

Then take a look at the same runners on the HPI and other more expensive manifolds.

Notice the almost 90 angle bend on the number one runner? From my research because of that turbulence the KMD/copy manifolds have shown less of a horsepower improvement then HPI and more expensive ones.

Just FYI

Edit: why do I always say KMC!!!

[uiuc240]

Thanks for the heads up, Jed. I just don't want to spend that much money. I'm either going to buy a KMD (or likewise) or I'm just going to stick with what I have. Would you just stick with stock?

Eric

[Foxcolt]

I'm in the same exact boat as you. I acutally passed up an opertunity to buy an HPI for a really good price only to realize the differences after my friend had already sold the HPI.

I mustang friend of mine told me, that since heat is what makes a turbo spool (in the grand scheme of things) is would be more logical to keep the runners as short as possible. Hence the most power would be made from a stock manifold.

Either way I'm confused especially since everyone with turbo imports praise an equal length manifold.

So based on what I've been told I'm buying an equal length just for the looks:D I don't have the time nor the desire to find out exactly how anequal length manifold makes more power than our stock log style manny's.

[uiuc240]

i think more than anything it changes the power CURVE rather than just the peak or something.

kinda like using a longer intake mani for more torque or a shorter one for more top end. maybe this works in reverse or something, and the longer runners make for more top end??

i dunno. i guess the main thing i don't like is that it feels like spending money for something i don't really need (except for the looks factor).

Eric

p.s. sorry about being lazy with the capital letters today. blah.

[sykikchimp]

equal length manifolds control exhaust pulses so that they reach the turbo in equally spaced times.. so the pulse are like this:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

instead of a log style:

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It's suppose to make the turbo spool smoother, and faster, and generally create a more desirable less "peaky" turbo engine by decreasing the amount of time b/w pulses. Heat does help spin the tubo though, and from what I've seen, log style manifolds can be more conducive to situations that require ultimate power over the smooth power curve.. such as drag racing.

It all comes down to quarter wave tuning. A properly engineered equal length manifold uses the pulse energy of the exhaust stream to help expel exhaust gases quicker from the cylinder. This wave tuning or pulse energy also aids in the spool of the turbo.

[Saul240]

nice redtop, it looks like its in good condition!!!

[oberkill]

Its just some generic manifold. It wont make as much power as the HPI or other high quality manifold but it also cost a third as much! This is just one of my temp engines until I finish the other high HP engine. Still waiting on alot of parts for it but I want to drive my car!! LOL I really dont think the design matters all that much if you are running a t25 or t28, so you will lose a little horsepower compared to the higher quality pieces it really is not all that much. If you were running a bigger turbo it would matter more and would be a higher HP number you lose. I think I am going to be able to push more than the stock injectors can handle with this setup already and I have no plans on upgrading injectors in a temp engine so it really became a mute point! There are a few things to look out for though. You will lose the stock oil catch can and the hose that goes from the middle of the valve cover to the head is very close to the manifold. I am going to run a braided line for it and just remove the oil catch can but I am only going to be running the engine for a few months. I have another "temp" SR going in that has GTiR internals, metal headgasket, ARP head studs, etc as soon as it is done, probably in June. The manifold really does need a brace at the bottom as well. It is fairly well made for a knockoff but it will crack over time without the brace and start to leak. I have seen 2 KMD manifolds this last week on a couple of locals cars and they both had to be rewelded out of the box as they both leaked. When I get it all together I will have some more data on the manifold. I have access to a HPI manifold maybe I will do a comparison dyno and get some exact numbers instead of just guessing. My numbers will be differant than most peoples setup though because I am running a standalone but it should give us a good idea.

Alan

[timmybgood]

thats a purdy manifold

[crioten]

i was over at alans and he has it a lot cleaner then it looked before :) looks good man

glen