teach me about Xbox 360

[HyperTek]

So i got the low baller thought of buying a broken as-is 360 on ebay and fixing it.. i.e. red ring of death and taking it apart to reseat/mod heatsinks on the chips... *I like taking things apart and tinkering with em*

being on a budget, i know ebay auctions dont really say which revision it is.. but can a base plain 360 be modded to be just as good as a premium with HDD and HDMI??

I got a 40gb sata laptop hdd thats out of my ps3, can that be adapted to teh 360? what is needed to be done to play legal back ups?

[LeftNutOfGowd]

OH BOY GET A PEN AND PAPER FOR THIS ONE.....


Flashing the Firmware of your Xbox 360 DVD-Drive

NOTE: this firmware modification will only allow you to boot Back-ups, no other programs or emulators can be installed using this firmware modification
First lets check which DVD-drive your Xbox 360 contains, eject the drive tray and compare against the photo below to determine which DVD-drive you have. Compare the drive tray against your own drive to determine which model you drive is and proceed accordingly. The Phillips is also referred to as the benq model and the lite on is the most recent. (remove faceplate to see wire colour) All models are flashable but require different processes.

Please note these tutorial are the most recent tutorials and software downloads. In the case of the samsung and benq the ck3 is only used for power you can also just use the power from the pc if you want to save a few bucks. (of course run a wire between 360 and pc chassis, to ground) and leave the video cable plugged in the 360. If your drive doesn't look like these take the face of as noted below:


http://sitemembers.org/dvd-drives.jpg (http://sitemembers.org/dvd-drives.jpg) http://sitemembers.org/face_removed.jpg (http://sitemembers.org/face_removed.jpg)http://sitemembers.org/BenQorLite-on.jpg (http://sitemembers.org/BenQorLite-on.jpg)
HITACHI 32/36/40/47/58/59 (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwarehitachi1.html)- - 078FK (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwarehitachi2.html) - -079FK (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwarehitachi3.html) - - SAMSUNG (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwaresamsung.html) - - - BENQ (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwarebenq.html) - - -LITE ON (http://sitemembers.org/Sitemembers/tutfirmwareliteon.html)

FIND OUT WHICH ONE IT IS THEN POST IT UP AND ILL POST UP ON HOW TO FLASH IT

Click your model of drive above to go to the appropriate tutorial. Get ALL the newest Look Below at which one works with your drive then ill post up the link to download it

Downloads for the newest firmware and all models utils & software

Auto Xbins 2008 (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=10)
A simple app that logs you into the great Xbins.org ftp server. Get all your firmware from there and much much more. Thanks to Ground Zero for the app and of course our old friend Iriez ! Find iprep 101 V006 and all the tools here.
To get these firmwares simply use Auto Xbins. This page may be out of date when you read this so it's always a good idea to get the latest version.
Total thanks and kudos goto Seventhson, Commodore4eva (C4EVA), GrayOPA et al for all their great work in the 360 FW Scene.

* NOTE *If having difficulty downloading any of these files then use XBins to get to get all the most up to date or back versions of any Xbox Software tools or firmware



NEW iXtreme 1.5 & Jungle Flasher 0.26 BETA (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=22)
iXtreme 1.5 (Samsung)
iXtreme 1.5 (Benq)
iXtreme 1.5 (Liteon) !!!!
Support for Liteon DG-16D2S unhackable drive
Flash from Windows with new Jungleflasher GUI
Smart Inquiry cdb for enhanced spoofing - Liteon
Enhanced c/r timing - all drives
Enhanced disc jitter - all drives
Enhanced spoofing support for Liteon - Samsung and Benq
Enhanced bad angle support - all drives
Secret Liteon MS Inquiry cdb support - Samsung and Benq
Half Open tray on powerup for Windows inquiry/flash mode - all drives
Disc lock/unlock cdb - Liteon Windows mode
Drive key+serial info cdb - Liteon Windows mode
More secure firmguard - Benq
Thanks to Team Jungle !

Complete iXtreme Firmware Package (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=16)
iXtreme 1.4 (Hitachi)
iXtreme 1.4 (Samsung)
iXtreme 1.41 (Benq)
Thanks to C4EVA & GaryOPA !

CK3 Tool v1.0 (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=19)
The first app for the CK3. No more need for DOS commands. Extract Liteon/Benq Key, Hitachi ModeB inc 078 and 079, 79 Unlock function, scan all ports, list 360 DVD drive names on the ports and more.
Thanks to the Sponsors

NEW CK3 Tool v1.2.4 (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=21)
The first app for the CK3. No more need for DOS commands. Extract Liteon/Benq Key, Hitachi ModeB inc 078 and 079, 79 Unlock function, scan all ports, list 360 DVD drive names on the ports and more.
v1.2.4: Added Support for CK3 Probe Timer & Minor Fixes
Thanks to the Sponsors

CK3 PRO USB Drivers (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=2)
These must be installed BEFORE you connect the CK3 PRO to the USB port. Compatible with Windows XP, 2K, 98 & ME.

CK3 PRO USB Vista Drivers (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=18)
These must be installed BEFORE you connect the CK3 PRO to the USB port. Compatible with Windows Vista.

new iPrep 101 v008 Pro Beta (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=20)
Recommend iprep 101 v 006 - get through xbins if having trouble with script not working.
Latest version of the great app for creating a bootable Floppy/USB so you can update your Samsung & Benq Firmware.
What's new/fixed:
* Removed MTKFlash, now exclusive use of DOSFlash.
* Forced use of removeable drives.
* Win32 UI for DVDKey32.
* Ability to generate valid BenQ/Samsung Lite-On Spoof Firmware.
* Includes FirmTool 1.2, DVDKey32 v0.6, DosFlash 1.6.
Thanks to Klutsh !

Maximus Firmware Toolbox 4.8 (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=5)
Superb app that does pretty much everything you need with 360 firmware - now with better Liteon spoof support.
Thanks to Maximus !

Winford Engineering PortIO32 Driver (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=6)
Required when using DVDKey32 & Mode_B
Thanks to Podger & Lahey for the PortIO32 auto installer !

DVDKey32 0.6 inc New PortIO32 (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=17)
Latest version used for extracting the Liteon DVD Key, Inquiry.bin & Identify.bin for spoofing to a flashable DVD ROM.
Thanks to Podger & C4EVA !
Mode_B 0.4 inc New PortIO32 (DOS & Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=9)
Puts ALL Hitachi's (inc 78 & 79) into Modeb without a Slax bootdisc or any other hardware hacks.
Thanks to Podger & Lahey for the PortIO32 auto installer !
79Unlock (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=12)
Used to unlock the Hitachi 079fk / 079fl drives for reading / writing firmware. To be used in conjunction with the Mode_B tool which is included.
Thanks to Podger !
Winrar v3.80 (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=11)
Used to extract all .rar and .zip compressed files that are on this page.
Thanks to RarLabs !

Slax 2 (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=573031)
Info & download

ImgBurn v2.4.2.0 (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=13)
An excellent disc burning tool that works well when creating the 79unlock CD. Also works great when burning your 360 backups too.
Thanks to IMGBurn !

SendToToys (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=14)
A very useful utility that expands windows "send to" menu - the main function is to be able to send a command direct to the command prompt (such as DVDKey or 79unlock) without having to type in the file location path.
Thanks to Gabriele Ponti !

Auto Xbins 2008 (Windows) (http://team-xecuter.com/files/click.php?id=10)
A simple app that logs you into the great Xbins.org ftp server. Get all your firmware from there and much much more.
Thanks to Ground Zero for the app and of course our old friend Iriez !
To get these firmwares simply use Auto Xbins. This page may be out of date when you read this so it's always a good idea to get the latest version.
Total thanks and kudos goto Seventhson, Commodore4eva (C4EVA), GrayOPA et al for all their great work in the 360 FW Scene.


THEN LOOK ONLINE AND FIND A VIDEO TO SHOW YOU HOW TO FLASH IT




Instructions for opening your Xbox 360


You will need a few tools to perform this operation:



Torx 7,10 and 12 screwdrivers
Small flat head screw driver
long thin object (less than 1mm thick)



If you take apart your Xbox 360 it will void your warranty immediately

Start by disconnecting all the cables and lay the Xbox 360 on it's side.
http://sitemembers.org/Images/a360.jpg

Here we have the Xbox 360 waiting to be 'cracked' open The first step is to remove the 'Faceplate'
Take a look at the front of the Xbox 360 and insert your thumb into the door that covers the two USB ports on the right of the unit. With your other hand squeezing the upper and lower sides of the face plate, pull out the face plate with your thumb. With not much force, the face plate should pop right off.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/b360.jpg

After the face plate has been pulled off you will see a silver Microsoft sticker covering a gap; remove this. You will also see four small clips locking the top half of the plastic shell to the bottom half. Do not attempt to wedge the clips out at this point.
With some care, gently bend outwards, the right gray ventilation shield on the right side of the unit so that you can see a bit inside. You will notice that the gray side piece attaches to both the bottom and top white chassis. Now look through the holes on top of the unit to locate the areas where the gray side pieces attaches to the white body. What you need to do is take a long thin object and push down through the white holes (located on both the top and bottom of the Xbox 360) where the clips of the gray side pieces connect. Slowly pull out the gray pieces away from the unit while unlocking the clips and eventually the gray piece will release itself.
http://sitemembers.org/Images/c360.jpg


To remove the left gray piece, you must first remove the hard drive unit by pressing the button located on the unit itself. Then apply the same procedure used to remove the right gray ventilation piece but when you reach the bottom clip of the piece, you must remove the rubber feet located directly below, to reveal a hole where you can insert a long thin object as you did in the last step.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/d360.jpg


For this next step you have two options the first is to ignore the references to the plastic keys and just use a small thin screwdriver to release the snaps holding the shell or follow the preferred method which requires a couple of pieces of plastic that is stiff enough to act as a key to release the snaps. The plastic dome cover that comes with most CD's/DVD's is a perfect choice.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/e360.jpg


Take the cover from your spindle of CD's /DVD's and cut a bit from the side of it and put it over area shown in the photo below and mark out where the holes will need to be cut. Or press into these areas with a small screwdriver to release the snap and use anything handy to wedge the area open so that the snaps won't snap back into the locked position while attempting to release the others

http://sitemembers.org/Images/f360.jpg

Cut the plastic so that the tabs that stick up are about 1cm (less than 1/2 inch) long The finished key should look something like the one in the photo below.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/g360.jpg

Now repeat and create another key for the remaining slots near the bottom of the Xbox 360 Again mark your plastic and keep the tabs about 1cm in length this key will have 5 tabs total versus the 2 tabs for the first key we made.

Once the key is made simply push it firmly into the slots until you hear the snaps release now separate the case halves slightly and use the key as a wedge to prevent them from reattaching while working on the top of the Xbox 360.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/h360.jpg

Repeat the procedure with the remaining key and all 7 snaps should now be released.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/i360.jpg

Lift the case shell carefully making sure no snaps are remaining while trying
to avoid any latches from reattaching.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/j360.jpg

To get access to the DVD Drive all you need to remove is the six long screws circled in RED

Don't remove the heat-sink screws circled in Green or the screws circled in Blue unless you want to completely dissemble the Xbox 360, we only need access to the DVD-drive

http://sitemembers.org/Images/k360.jpg

Once you have the 6 screws removed, flip the Xbox 360 right side up and lift up the top plastic shell. You should now be greeted with the internals of the Xbox 360

http://sitemembers.org/Images/l360.jpg

Last step removal of the DVD-drive, simply hold the drive and lift up. You will notice that the Xbox 360's DVD drive uses a Serial ATA (SATA) interface and we will need to connect the PC's SATA cable to the drive while leaving the Xbox 360 power cable attached.

http://sitemembers.org/Images/m360.jpg

[LeftNutOfGowd]

I just modded mine about two weeks ago I did a custom case and led fan ill post up pic once I get home and take them...Along with my modded 360 I also have a modded wii and I'm not talking about that lame soft mod home brew crap I have a Wiikey2 chip inside. On the Wii I swapped the white case for a black one put a led fan and change the led front light the gate light from blue to green.

Once you actually get around to doing that I'll show you how to burn the games and where to get them. And how to make sure there stealth so you can play online

[s13poop]

jeezus all this is tempting

i wanna see pics of your modded systems :bigok:

[LeftNutOfGowd]

Hahaha wait like 3-4 more hours and ill have them up

[blueshark123]

leftnut how much would u charge me to mod my xbox 360 im very intrested but im scared to fuck up something or not be able to play online etc...

[aoiken3]

if i had an xbox, i would instantly shoot it your way to be modded leftnut.

[Z33dori]

I just modded mine about two weeks ago I did a custom case and led fan ill post up pic once I get home and take them...Along with my modded 360 I also have a modded wii and I'm not talking about that lame soft mod home brew crap I have a Wiikey2 chip inside. On the Wii I swapped the white case for a black one put a led fan and change the led front light the gate light from blue to green.

Once you actually get around to doing that I'll show you how to burn the games and where to get them. And how to make sure there stealth so you can play online

damn... that is tempting

[LeftNutOfGowd]

leftnut how much would u charge me to mod my xbox 360 im very intrested but im scared to fuck up something or not be able to play online etc...

Sorry man I don't mod other people xbox I don't wanna be held responsible for it the only mod I will do would be to fix your red ring that's about it but doing the whole flashing of the firmware I dont really do unless I get a broken or three ring xbox off Clist or ebay for dirty chip,.

If your really worried about messing it up but you REALLY wanna have a flashed 360 then buy this

The Llamma's Game Console Parts and Accessories (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=73_86&products_id=661&osCsid=2bad0082eb913cbf9db5a2de3ab1f992)

It's basically a second dvd drive and flash that one but there's is some work involed you will need to hook up you old dvd drive to a pc and retrive the lock code. But if you look online you can find people that do it for you and stuff

Or just get a mod chip then all you have to do is know how to solider or they also have a eternal mod chip which works just the same

damn... that is tempting

I think its worth it I mean why spend 60 bucks on one game when for 30 bucks you can get a stack of 20 DVD-R DL and burn yourselfself 20 games and I can still play online so thats always a plus

[SochBAT]

But remember, this is for BACKUP GAMES ONLY!

Otherwise it is piracy.

And we don't condone to piracy, do we?

Yea, didn't think so.

[yota man]

But remember, this is for BACKUP GAMES ONLY!

Otherwise it is piracy.

And we don't condone to piracy, do we?

Yea, didn't think so.


Fucking pirates.

[francogt1]

arggggggggggg^

[DUFFM4N]

always after the booty :P

[kingkilburn]

http://www.lazytowncenter.com/videos/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/you_are_a_pirate.jpg

[Monooxide]

Really...

The way I see it, if people aren't smart enough to use google themselves and learn all of this then they really shouldn't be doing it.

[arkive43]

ill teach you this......

do you know why its called the xbox360?


cause when you see it you will turn 360 degrees and walk away...




;)

[Nismo ZJ]

ill teach you this......

do you know why its called the xbox360?


cause when you see it you will turn 360 degrees and walk away...




;)

Wouldn't that be walking towards the xbox? :w00t:

[ALTRNTV]

ill teach you this......

do you know why its called the xbox360?


cause when you see it you will turn 360 degrees and walk away...




;)
No, it'll walk straight at you.

[HyperTek]

haha you guys are funny.. thanks leftnut

im a pc nut /built watercooled my rig so i figure this should be easy.. Ill look at it as quest.. buy a cheap system on ebay fix it on a budget.

Saw a few vids on youtube about how to cure the rrod, basically the best way was to mod/make the heatsinks sit better on the chips.

So my understanding tho was that the early models dont have hdmi... and i play my ps3 thru my pc monitor with a hdmi-dvi chorde,.. could i do something simular on the 360 and get hd gaming out of it still?

[SochBAT]

I like how only idiots use that 'joke', not knowing or realizing how stupid it really is.

No offense to you archive, but I've heard that shit so many times in real life.

Do people not know that 360 degrees is a full fucking circle?

[ALTRNTV]

Yeah, like politicians who vow to turn their corrupted city around 360 degrees.... right back to how they were.

[SochBAT]

PS. If you wanna save moneys on a HD, look into the WD BEVS mod.

Western Digital BEVS hard drive
SATA controller
Boot to DOS
Profit.

Saves you 100 bucks!

And if you want cheap wifi instead of buying the adapter for it, look into the router mod.

Old wireless router
Upload firmware
...
Profit.

Twice the profit! It is AMAZE!

[arkive43]

hahahahahahh i <3 that joke it never gets old to me sorry.

[HyperTek]

hmm its either i go for one of these or spend the money towards a gps unit so i can go drive/explore lol

but figure i could get a dirt cheap rrod console on ebay for liek $40 bucks.. mess with it ,.. and pick up the needed wires and controller over a few weeks and still be a decent deal.

I have a ps3 w/ a 250gb hdd in it, but no new games i feel like buying and you cant do any of this modding stuff to it yet lol

[Leetheslacker]

I like how only idiots use that 'joke', not knowing or realizing how stupid it really is.

No offense to you archive, but I've heard that shit so many times in real life.

Do people not know that 360 degrees is a full fucking circle?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y233/Leetheslacker/360_moonwalk.png


i want a 360. i miss fallout 3.

is it really that easy to pick up a RROD'd one and take it apart and fix it? i mean ive done computers and ps2's and all sorts of electronics shit youre not supposed to open so getting it apart is no matter, but what about actually fixing it?

[Monooxide]

hmm its either i go for one of these or spend the money towards a gps unit so i can go drive/explore lol

but figure i could get a dirt cheap rrod console on ebay for liek $40 bucks.. mess with it ,.. and pick up the needed wires and controller over a few weeks and still be a decent deal.

I have a ps3 w/ a 250gb hdd in it, but no new games i feel like buying and you cant do any of this modding stuff to it yet lol

You can get a XBOX360 cable that goes to VGA which can be adapted to DVI if need be so you can use it on your monitor. I used to do this before I got an HDTV.

i want a 360. i miss fallout 3.

is it really that easy to pick up a RROD'd one and take it apart and fix it? i mean ive done computers and ps2's and all sorts of electronics shit youre not supposed to open so getting it apart is no matter, but what about actually fixing it?

Yes, you open the 360 and take off the old X-Clips which is kind of scary as they are very high tension OEM. You replace the thermal paste and apply the X-Clamp and voila...most are fixed.

I even put mine in a towel and turned it on and let it over heat itself to fix it! Haha worked twice.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

HERE'S My 360...And no I don't have the red ring I changed the color from green to red

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/PICT1317.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/PICT1312.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/PICT1311.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/PICT1316.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/th_PICT1337.jpg (http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/?action=view&current=PICT1337.flv)

And my Wii

http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/PICT1314.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/th_PICT1326.jpg (http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/?action=view&current=PICT1326.flv)
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/th_PICT1327.jpg (http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/sigsNgifs/?action=view&current=PICT1327.flv)

[Sleepy240]

Yes, you open the 360 and take off the old X-Clips which is kind of scary as they are very high tension OEM. You replace the thermal paste and apply the X-Clamp and voila...most are fixed.

I even put mine in a towel and turned it on and let it over heat itself to fix it! Haha worked twice.

This really depends on what error your getting. There are some error codes that are basically unfixable. But before you go and tear into your RROD box check the EC. I've bought 3 broken boxes only to have 2 of them have EC74, which most of the time is the AV cable just being bad. Also IMO the X-Clamp is what causes the majority of the problems. It applies uneven pressure to the GPU and should be replaced. Otherwise your just bandaiding the problem rather than solving it. And the towel trick is the easiest way to completely fry an xbox that I know of, I would NEVER do this even with a CL box.

As far as upgrading the HDDVD drive its fairly straight forward and not all that difficult. Leftnut posted a pretty awesome walkthrough, probably a little too thorough hah.

[Howard92884]

Anyone know anything about the "open tray" error? My 360 quit reading discs altogether. When I put in a disc I hear 2 buzzing sounds like the drive spinning then it stops and it says open tray on the dashboard. This slowly started to happen about a few months I put in a disc it wouldn't read so I take it out and put it back in and it reads. It kept doing it more and more until it just stopped reading anything. I am in Iraq right now and really don't feel like sending it to microsoft so if anyone has any repair info please post it up.

Thanks

[LeftNutOfGowd]

Anyone know anything about the "open tray" error? My 360 quit reading discs altogether. When I put in a disc I hear 2 buzzing sounds like the drive spinning then it stops and it says open tray on the dashboard. This slowly started to happen about a few months I put in a disc it wouldn't read so I take it out and put it back in and it reads. It kept doing it more and more until it just stopped reading anything. I am in Iraq right now and really don't feel like sending it to microsoft so if anyone has any repair info please post it up.

Thanks

Looks like your going to have to send it to Microsoft or open it yourself and following this tutorial

Xbox DVD repair If your Xbox is freezing during games or returning the dreaded Dirty Disc Error you have a DVD drive problem.

If this all sounds like too much work you can always buy a replacement drive (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22)


First off, DO NOT BLOW CANNED AIR INTO THE DRIVE WITHOUT OPENING IT!
This will almost certainly make things worse, you just assure that the dust will be redistributed evenly inside the drive and this includes a coating on the optics you are trying to clean.


Steps to take in order to resolve Dirty Disk Errors-
1. Use a standard CD/DVD Cleaner (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=97), they look like a normal CD but with two miniature brushes on them. This will only clean the lens. Sometimes this is all you need to be up and running.


2.Use this information to figure out what drive you are working with and what must be done to clean the lens in the next step.
Determine the manufacturer of your Xbox DVD drive (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/xbox_dvd_version_comparison.htm).
Complete Tear Down Tutorials
Thomson (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/cleaning_your_dvd_drive.htm) Laser Installation (http://llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/thomson_xbox_laser_installation.htm) Thomson Tray Alignment (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/thompson_dvd_tray.htm)
Phillips (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/phillips_xbox_dvd_complete_dissassembly.htm) Laser Installation (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/phillips_laser_installation.htm)
Samsung (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/Samsung_DVD_Complete_Disassembly.htm)


3. Clean the lens and mirror manually Tutorial (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/cleaning_your_dvd_drive.htm) (same tutorial as Thompson tear down)


4. Adjust the Potentiometer (pot) on the laser. Thompson Tutorial (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/thompson_potentiometer.htm)


5. Replace the Laser in the DVD drive, purchase replacement Samsung (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=laser&x=0&y=0) Phillips (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=106) and Thompson (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=105) lasers.


6. If none of the above options revive your drive you can rest assured you have tried it all... Get a new drive, they do go dead and its probably not your fault or the fault of your younger sibling-relative-friend that was messing with your xbox without your permission (yes I hear that a lot). Replacement Xbox DVD Drives (http://secure.llamma.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22)


You may notice that some of your games play fine while others do not. This is usually because some games are on DVD media and some are on CD media. CD's are single layer media while DVD's are multi layer media. This means it is easier to read a CD than it is to read a DVD. The concept of a DVD is to have several semi transparent layers of data. It is sort of like taking a few CD's stacking them together and smooshing them into a single disc. To read the 2-4 layers of data you must ignore the previous layers and pay attention to ones deeper in the disc. Obviously this is a more complex task and more subject to read errors. My description is not entirely accurate to keep the concepts easy to understand (if anyone would like to reference a technical explanation send me a link)


For instance the double disk of Jet Set Radio Future and Sega GT 2003 is a CD while Munch's Oddysee/Halo is on a DVD. Most often you will notice the bottom of the media is one of two colors, gold DVD's and Silver CD's. It is not 100% that gold=DVD and silver=CD so if you find this rule of thumb to not be true in every case... that's life.


If you know you have a DVD problem because the drive will not open or close, stay opened or closed or makes grinding and popping noises...

The number one quick fix for the DVD drive is to re-align the tray. This is common with CD players, CD changers as well. Many times just from normal use a gear will skip or something will jump track, unless all the pieces are in the right place at the time it powers up it will not work. So by removing the tray, aligning the internal parts to their starting position and re-inserting the tray you can often bring a drive back from the dead Thompson DVD Drive Tray Alignment Procedure (http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/thompson_dvd_tray.htm)

http://www.llamma.com/xbox/Repairs/xbox_dvd_repair.htm
Hope it helps

[SochBAT]

the 360 needs a Bootloader disc, seriously.

Copy all your backup games onto the HD.
Insert Bootloader CD.
Win.

Something like HDAdvanced/HDLoader. That'd be cool.

[HyperTek]

coo i threw some old vintage rc10 rc cars on ebay (people collect em, i figure someone else could enjoy em instead of em taking room in my house).. so i plan to use that for the xbox project. Ill jus order everything on ebay.

You can boot PS2 games off an external hdd or memory card on ps3 with a boat loader from what i read *my ps3 dont play ps2 games =(

[HyperTek]

hey i see ebay has people list the model part numbers... any model i should shoot for? seems like everyone rips the hdds off when they slang the consoles.

[Howard92884]

Thanks LeftNut, I'll give it a try.

+Imaginary rep to you.

[SochBAT]

My PS2 has the bootloader.

The WD Mod isn't for teh faint of heart. Its a meaty process. But worth it.

Lemme find link.

[BoostSlideWayz]

PS3 may be alittle more expensive but will last you in the long run. Ive had mine since about 2 months after it came out and i have not had one problem with it. it seems as if its right out of the box ever time i play on it. and plus.. Blue ray disk is better than what x box can cover. they both have there qualities. but almost every one i know with x box has experianced the 3 ring death. and now they regret ever buying x box.

[BoostSlideWayz]

PS3 may be alittle more expensive but will last you in the long run. Ive had mine since about 2 months after it came out and i have not had one problem with it. it seems as if its right out of the box ever time i play on it. and plus.. Blue ray disk is better than what x box can cover. they both have there qualities. but almost every one i know with x box has experianced the 3 ring death. and now they regret ever buying x box.

[HyperTek]

dude i already have a PS3.. but for the price of a busted 360 and a lil elbow grease + modding it .. seems like it would provide hours of entertainment

[SochBAT]

I was skeptical about XBOX too, but after owning it (Thanks bro!), i'm sold.

The network is amazing as hell.

And game selection is rad.

And Netflix.

[andisan]

XBOX LIVE cannot compare to PS network and who cares if its free, I keep in touch with a couple of buddys that live out of town over XBOX LIVE(bash on some noobs),And I do own a PS3, Anyways I own two 360's one was a gift and I had to get me the Elite just cuz of the HDMI output at the time.I figure after the three year warrenty runs out Im going to mod the hell out of it so I know what your trying to do and I do recomend it cuz you can buy one for like 100 bucks and fix it and your good to go(thats what one of my friend does, hes a computer geek). Theres alot of help and info online so you wont have trouble with the HOW TO info. You might find good info on youtube too.

[amdnivram]

that and xbox live is better than the ps3's online system.

[ZX88]

flash the drive.

[LeftNutOfGowd]

PS3 may be alittle more expensive but will last you in the long run. Ive had mine since about 2 months after it came out and i have not had one problem with it. it seems as if its right out of the box ever time i play on it. and plus.. Blue ray disk is better than what x box can cover. they both have there qualities. but almost every one i know with x box has experianced the 3 ring death. and now they regret ever buying x box.

I keep thinking about getting a PS3 I had one when they first came out but I was so disappointed with the online value I just returned it. I mean yeah its free but the connection sucks and at the time I was deep into Rainbow six vegas and every time I played NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE had a mic. So basically I had to watch out for myself. I seriously belive if the PS3 didn't support blueray the 360 would destroy it.

dude i already have a PS3.. but for the price of a busted 360 and a lil elbow grease + modding it .. seems like it would provide hours of entertainment

It is indeed soooooo worth it I bought a pack of 20 blank dvd disc so I can burn some games and I got them on Monday and now I'm left with only 3 disc lol I been burning shit left and right hahaha

[HyperTek]

baka! my dumbass bid on a 360 premium with 4 minutes left.. 85 bucks.. had everything the wireless controller, cables, power source, box, manual, just rrod... and at the alst minute someone bid 100.. i should have waited til the last minute because im sure it was the guy who was originally bidding on it.. he probably saw my bid and jumped it.. i shoulda waited grrrrrrrrrr...

figured id try for a system that at least has the bare essentials since piecing a bare broken console will probably cost more since id need a controller, hdd, cables power source etc..

oh well.. im just gonna order brakes for my car instead lol

[LeftNutOfGowd]

baka! my dumbass bid on a 360 premium with 4 minutes left.. 85 bucks.. had everything the wireless controller, cables, power source, box, manual, just rrod... and at the alst minute someone bid 100.. i should have waited til the last minute because im sure it was the guy who was originally bidding on it.. he probably saw my bid and jumped it.. i shoulda waited grrrrrrrrrr...

figured id try for a system that at least has the bare essentials since piecing a bare broken console will probably cost more since id need a controller, hdd, cables power source etc..

oh well.. im just gonna order brakes for my car instead lol

I checked out Clist earlier and a lot of people are selling 360 for like 130 and down one guys selling one that has everything including RROD hehehe for 75 bucks

[HyperTek]

what keywords did u use? ur in socal right? could u link me the cl? lol

[cc4usmc]

Is "E74" the Xbox 360's new Red Ring of Death? - Video Game Feature - Yahoo! Video Games (http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/is-quot-e74-quot-the-xbox-360-s-new-red-ring-of-death-/1299076)

[HyperTek]

i just bought RE5 for ps3 so ill have to wait a while til i feel i need to get my fix on gaming again lol

[rb25crazy]

this is probably off topic but how do you mod the wii?

i wanna mod mine =D and is there anyway to hook up my wii with an hdmi port instead of that component cable? or to a dvi port =D

zilvias the best =D

[LeftNutOfGowd]

this is probably off topic but how do you mod the wii?

i wanna mod mine =D and is there anyway to hook up my wii with an hdmi port instead of that component cable? or to a dvi port =D

zilvias the best =D

You need a mod chip check out the link below

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/244786-modded-wiis.html

no all you can really do is get the hd components cable to really make it run on 480i

[rb25crazy]

oh, yeah i got those hd cables. was just wondering if it was possible to hook it up to a lcd monitor guess i gotta get another tv instead keke

[LeftNutOfGowd]

oh, yeah i got those hd cables. was just wondering if it was possible to hook it up to a lcd monitor guess i gotta get another tv instead keke

Na you can hook it up to a computer monitor I see it done before let me search and see what it is you need in order to do it