View Full Version : High quality Halogen vs HID's on Zenki?
Boostage
03-04-2009, 08:33 PM
I am looking to get the great performing lighting as my stock zenki lights are yellowed and need replacing. I was considering German glass lights with some good halogen bulbs, or possibly trying to source Final Konnexion lenses and retro some TSX Hid's.
Obviously the German Lights and Bulbs would be the easiest and possibley cheaper solution. but how difference would the performance be versus HID's and clear lenses?
Brian
03-04-2009, 08:36 PM
I put plug-in HIDs into my USA spec 1995 headlights. It was cool. Everything lit up.
:)
SimpleS14
03-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Have you driven a car at night with HIDs?
HID > Halogen
However I like the looks of the glass headlights vs FK lenses.
Boostage
03-04-2009, 08:45 PM
what was the cut off like?
Brian
03-04-2009, 08:47 PM
I don't know.
Cut off is for guys who like to park in front of walls and then take photos to post on their favoursite internet forum.
I drive my car in the real world. if they light goes in front of me and lights up the road, GREAT.
Dousan_PG
03-04-2009, 08:50 PM
haha seriously
i could care less perosnally
uh-oh, wheres clearcorners mike now???
Boostage
03-04-2009, 09:07 PM
Brian not true, My current oem s14 lights light up the road in front but its quite a bit dull. and I cant say its doing a good job just because it lights up the road. my 06 gs300 has much superior lighting. Im looking for good performance, not "bling" lighting. being able to see street signs and racoons without being 5 feet in front of them makes driving at night. if I wanted to look cool I would just throw in some ebay Hid's and call it a day.
ixfxi
03-04-2009, 09:17 PM
haha seriously
i could care less perosnally
uh-oh, wheres clearcorners mike now???
oh dont worry, im here.
im just wondering how a user with over 100 posts can ask a question thats been answered..............
...................
..............OVER A THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but yeah, fuckit... i'll let you guys tell him to install an HID kit and call it a day.
Dousan_PG
03-04-2009, 09:24 PM
hahaha cant help it
i never drove a car w/ drop in HID on the street actually
with a modded car and fucked HID lights its just a pull over waiting to happen
Boostage
03-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Mike go change your old diapers, This question wasn't asked over 1000 times even if you added up all 240 boards in the world. for the record in the 11 threads I dug up on this. they all had you bitching and moaning with no solid evidence on anything. I'm trying to find out from users who have possible ran both types of setup to give feedback.
if you must
eBay Motors: H4 9003 to D2S/D2R Adapters PHILIPS HID XENON bulb Gen2 (item 370161040849 end time Mar-19-09 02:02:54 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H4-9003-to-D2S-D2R-Adapters-PHILIPS-HID-XENON-bulb-Gen2_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ36476QQihZ024QQite mZ370161040849QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
get those & D2R bulbs
Almedarj
03-04-2009, 09:42 PM
dude for a good set of lights just get sylvania super stars ther 20 bucks each and there bright
Brian
03-04-2009, 09:46 PM
I got mine from JRT LIGHTING
I don't know if they still advertise here.
Good shit. Plug them right into your headlamps.
When I drove my car with them, it was awesome. Hit up the freeway, BAM, every green sign lights up and flickers because the car is so stiff. People in front of you get out of the way.
It's WONDERFUL.
klear korners approved.
ixfxi
03-04-2009, 10:59 PM
Mike go change your old diapers, This question wasn't asked over 1000 times even if you added up all 240 boards in the world.
You havent been around long enough, go back to class son...!
for the record in the 11 threads I dug up on this. they all had you bitching and moaning with no solid evidence on anything. I'm trying to find out from users who have possible ran both types of setup to give feedback.
This reminds me of the thread the other day when someone asked for advice then talked shit to Russ (projectRDM).. bad person to talk shit to, considering the guy is a 240SX encyclopedia.
I'de give you the answers you want but apparently, you seem to know more about lighting than I do.
Best of luck, pusscake.
Boostage
03-04-2009, 11:20 PM
I love how you came in this thread all gung ho full of fucking condescension and now your pretending like you had any intention to help. please... truth is you don't even know, of all the posts I have seen you have never answered a single question. seriously get a fucking life geezer.You contribute zero to this forum in any capacity.
I can't believe I actually considered buying from clear corners. you seem to get off on talking shit behind a keyboard and I dont have time for that so Im ignoring you from now on but feel free to have the last word. also feel free to keep comng back to this thread to continue to talk shit over and over liek you do in every thread you post in on the internet as it seems to complete and justify your miserable existence. never in my life have a I seen a grown man constantly argue over the internet as if he is a juvenile girl.
To everyone else actually willing to help.. I'm not necessarily trying to get the 240 to have the same illumination as my GS300 but I want to have considerabley better lighting perfomance than the 13 year old stock units.
Brian
03-04-2009, 11:21 PM
GET
A
PLUG-IN
HID
KIT
it's probably illegal for road use though....
Boostage
03-04-2009, 11:52 PM
Got a detailed explanation of the route I should take via PM. thanks guys.
astrophixvox
03-04-2009, 11:59 PM
If your housing is not designed for HID its not the best. To me...if you don't blind anyone....WHO CARES!!! What you do to your cars is up to you so long as it doesn't affect my vision when you are coming at me. Cut offs are great and yes i do believe in doing it RIGHT....but if you're gonna do it...at the very least don't blind other people. But clearcorners is great and they offered some information that will stick with me.
ixfxi
03-05-2009, 12:25 AM
blah blah truth is you don't even know, of all the posts I have seen you have never answered a single question.
last i checked you're the one groveling for help. people kiss my balls on forums for lighting-advice, but i guess you're right - i have no clue what im doing. my whole business is a ruse.
I can't believe I actually considered buying from clear corners.
dont worry, the folks who do buy from me laugh their asses off reading my responses to fucktards like you. if you havent figured it out yet, i get my kicks off of putting-down broke, ignorant 240 owners. welcome to the club.
You contribute zero to this forum in any capacity.
you got me there..!
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Florida
Posts: 106
edit: floridians... gaddamn some of you guys can be so stupid. joined zilvia for a couple years and thinks hes an expert, n00b.
Boostage
03-05-2009, 08:05 AM
Didn't read a word of what ixfxi (http://zilvia.net/f/members/ixfxi.html) just wrote, but I'm sure it has something to do with sniffing cocks along with random keyboard fighting words. as only a pathetic senior citizen can deleiver. go drink your prune juice George Burns or go play with your fucking whoreing cunt of a wifes saggy tits.You dont even realise that it doesnt matter what you write on here Im just going to ignore it as it has nothing to do with my lighting question. But keep posting thinking I'm actuallly wasteing time reading it.:rolleyes:
DrtyRat
03-05-2009, 08:19 AM
Didn't read a word of what ixfxi (http://zilvia.net/f/members/ixfxi.html) just wrote, but I'm sure it has something to do with sniffing cocks along with random keyboard fighting words. as only a pathetic senior citizen can deleiver. go drink your prune juice George Burns or go play with your fucking whoreing cunt of a wifes saggy tits.You dont even realise that it doesnt matter what you write on here Im just going to ignore it as it has nothing to do with my lighting question. But keep posting thinking I'm actuallly wasteing time reading it.:rolleyes:
You're kinda doing a crappy job of ignoring him :(
Boostage
03-05-2009, 08:32 AM
A few People pm'ed me about the info I received on this topic. so I am going to post it here..
"I was just reading up on your post and wanted to give you some advice. I've had both the german glass headlights with hid's and my current set up now and I must say that my current set up is much nicer in terms of lighting up the road and not blinding oncoming drivers. The german glass headlights I had were with a 6k hid kit and the light output was much brighter but only directly in front of me. And they were too bright to oncoming drivers. My current set up has a very wide beam pattern to it and a perfect cut off so its more practical to me. It lights up all 4 lanes on the freeway. Just wanted to help you out. I'm not sure if you saw the pictures I posted but I can send them to you if it helps. And I dont post on this topic because of all the hater's on zilvia. But I totally agree with you about Mike being no help. Later"
His setup consists of TSX projectors with clear lenses. performance sounds Identical to my Lexus.
ixfxi
03-05-2009, 08:50 AM
Didn't read a word of what ixfxi (http://zilvia.net/f/members/ixfxi.html) just wrote, but I'm sure it has something to do with sniffing cocks along with random keyboard fighting words. as only a pathetic senior citizen can deleiver. go drink your prune juice George Burns or go play with your fucking whoreing cunt of a wifes saggy tits.You dont even realise that it doesnt matter what you write on here Im just going to ignore it as it has nothing to do with my lighting question. But keep posting thinking I'm actuallly wasteing time reading it.:rolleyes:
is it just me or does this guy sound like he's 12?
someone lock this thread already, its been discussed AND answered numerous times throughout the years - hid kits are illegal and a waste of time. we dont need amateurs posting opinions about what they "think" about good and bad lighting. its a fact, hence the reason they are banned for sale in the US.
move on.
nismo tuned s14
03-05-2009, 04:21 PM
Didn't read a word of what ixfxi (http://zilvia.net/f/members/ixfxi.html) just wrote, but I'm sure it has something to do with sniffing cocks along with random keyboard fighting words. as only a pathetic senior citizen can deleiver. go drink your prune juice George Burns or go play with your fucking whoreing cunt of a wifes saggy tits.You dont even realise that it doesnt matter what you write on here Im just going to ignore it as it has nothing to do with my lighting question. But keep posting thinking I'm actuallly wasteing time reading it.:rolleyes:
I vote ban.
Or at least pinked.
projectRDM
03-05-2009, 04:42 PM
I can't believe I actually considered buying from clear corners.
Don't lie to us. It's clear you couldn't afford quality lighting if your life depended on it. And you're too fucking stupid to know the difference anyway, just go buy your jank ass FK lens and tape a Maglight in them.
Mangudai
03-05-2009, 05:01 PM
I put plug-in HIDs into my USA spec 1995 headlights. It was cool. Everything lit up.
:)
rofl this part got me. You are such an ass lol
GSXRJJordan
03-05-2009, 05:13 PM
Hahahaha this thread has so many 'zilvia heavyweights' its ridiculous.
Boostage, Mike @ Clear Corners doesn't like plug-in HID kits because even though they are HID, and they do come in H4 housings, they don't look good, or perform better than a good halogen - on top of that, they're illegal and potentially unsafe. All valid points.
Mike even looks down on some HID retrofits lol - cause the stuff he builds is that damned good. Better than OEM quality, literally...
So yeah, no one on here is really interested in that - I'm just happy he's still in business and hangin out here, because if you had asked him for open-ended advice, I'm sure he would have told you his professional opinion - but these threads that basically ask for reasons to buy cheap lighting get old after a decade or so.
My Zenki will stay halogen, because as Aaron pointed out, crappy HIDs (or HIDs in an improper enclosure) are just one more reason to be pulled over.
Brian
03-05-2009, 05:16 PM
You could just run HID setup at the track.
Cool points.
When I see photos of cars at the track that have regular headlights, it's just the same as seeing a baby animal die on the street.
fliprayzin240sx
03-06-2009, 01:04 PM
^^^Fucking Brian...stop instigating shit...:bowrofl:
Anyways back to the OP, this thread is starting to sound more like why we should convince you NOT to get "drop in HIDs". Ultimately its your money, your car, only you can make that decision. In the end, best route is still get OEM retrofits on clear lenses since the German lights still have flutes on it. If they didnt, I would be rocking them now.
Boostage
03-06-2009, 05:45 PM
Don't lie to us. It's clear you couldn't afford quality lighting if your life depended on it. And you're too fucking stupid to know the difference anyway, just go buy your jank ass FK lens and tape a Maglight in them.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Afrodziac/007-17.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Afrodziac/P1000691.jpg
:zzz:
$1500 PTE 6262 turbo-check
06 gs300 paid for- check
1jz s14- check
00' Aristo- check
Who makes up being able to buy headlights? seriously? money isn't the issue. I didn't even imply that it was, I just wanted to know which was better. that's it.
240=180
03-06-2009, 05:51 PM
zamnn hahaha
Boostage
03-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Don't lie to us. It's clear you couldn't afford quality lighting if your life depended on it. And you're too fucking stupid to know the difference anyway, just go buy your jank ass FK lens and tape a Maglight in them.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Afrodziac/007-17.jpg
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a249/Afrodziac/P1000691.jpg
:zzz:
$1500 PTE 6262 turbo-check
06 gs300 paid for- check
1jz s14- check
00' Aristo- check
Who makes up being able to buy headlights? seriously? money isn't the issue. I didn't even imply that it was, I just wanted to know which was better. that's it.
Hahahaha this thread has so many 'zilvia heavyweights' its ridiculous.
Boostage, Mike @ Clear Corners doesn't like plug-in HID kits because even though they are HID, and they do come in H4 housings, they don't look good, or perform better than a good halogen - on top of that, they're illegal and potentially unsafe. All valid points.
Mike even looks down on some HID retrofits lol - cause the stuff he builds is that damned good. Better than OEM quality, literally...
So yeah, no one on here is really interested in that - I'm just happy he's still in business and hangin out here, because if you had asked him for open-ended advice, I'm sure he would have told you his professional opinion - but these threads that basically ask for reasons to buy cheap lighting get old after a decade or so.
My Zenki will stay halogen, because as Aaron pointed out, crappy HIDs (or HIDs in an improper enclosure) are just one more reason to be pulled over.
I'm not trying to be cheap. I'm not rich but I do well and will spend the coin if it's necessary. I just wanted to know what the better route was. if it so happen to be a $1000 retrofit, then so be it. if Halogens on German glass works out to be the same performance for a few hundred less, then that would be the way to go. I didnt ask anyone to save me money, or imply that I want to just skate by for cheap. I just wanted to know the better route to take. I did consider the clear corners tail lights, and that was what I was going to do next after taking care of the fronts.
ThatGuy
03-06-2009, 05:55 PM
This thread has become complete crap.
:lockd:
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