advertisors need to offer more appealing deals

[handinpants]

I'm not trying to hate, but more or less give feedback but some of the advertisers on this site need to give a better deal to us zilvia members, for instance this one advertiser offers 5% off stuff zilvia members buy from them, but i live in california so i then have to pay 8.25% sales tax, even though i am buying through the internet... and i'm not really getting that good of a deal after all, single digit percentages make me want to look somewhere else for a better deal. 10 or 20% off sounds like a better deal.....

also not all of us are made of money, 5% off, + no taxes is good, 5%0ff no taxes + free shipping better... but 5% off is like nothing... there is a difference between lowballing, and lower prices.

[cc4usmc]

I don't see this lasting.

[HyperTek]

5% isnt much at all.. 10 would be better.. tough times man, the advertisers are people just like you and me. Some times the wholesale accounts they go thru may raise their prices as well, so its really tough, do you not expect them to profit?

You just got to ride it out, not happy? buy used.

[wgJoY]

Not true, good deals do come and go. For example, 240sx Motoring was offering some.. I think Apexi coilovers for $800 or so dollars under MSRP, had one set only. If you are really that concerned about 5%, just wait for a good deal to pop up, because most likely it will.

Or as the Hypertek stated, buy used.

[CrimsonRockett]

There's plenty of good deals.

I doubt many would offer free shipping because guess what, that costs money.

Less money in their pockets equals less money made.

Sure, we'd love lower prices, but they have to make money too.

How about this, you start working overtime to afford that extra 5% you're so desperate to save.

Done and done.

Now, you have enough money to afford what you want and the advertisers are happy as well.

[OverBoost]

Maybe you would like to see more Group Deals instead? Like said above, times are tough and the advertisers are real people with real businesses. 240 owners are notoriously cheap and don't like to spend money. But the advertisers aren't there to sell products and lose money. We are lucky as free forum members to get a discount at all because that already eats into their profits.

In your situation and given this economy, you should just buy used parts. There are so many quality used parts available, if you can't find what you want, either save up your money a bit longer or find a new hobby :)

[bing]

make more money, care less about discounts.

[rockmafb06]

5% is still 5% less then would you would be paying. on a $1000 order, that's a good amount of money. Take any savings while you can.

[SoSideways]

Well, I just recently saw an advertiser sell... well, for over the MSRP, shipped over night lol

It's sort of ridiculous, since usually it's discounted AND shipped overnight and come out below MSRP, and it's usually done through the distributor as the vendor get a good deal for a month or something, but this didn't seem like that.

Just saying, since I used to sling parts too, I know how it works, but this just seemed odd to me...

[water]

I think its crazy when AIT or Bmagic or knockoff fenders cost more than DMax or Origin. Actual case w/ some advertisers right now.

[MadScientist]

Considering most dealers are cutting each others throats to try and get more customers in a dwindling industry where customers are not even loyal to one dealer... much less one brand.

I use to sell... I owned Rare Trick... I dont see any dealers going out of their way to bring over Rare parts anymore!! I see RHD-Japan advertise what they sell but most is over priced or too over the top.

Dealers have gone so far down off the MSRP prices to compete with other dealers that YOU the comsumers believe that an Advertised price is too much and you should pay less... when in reality the Advertised Price is a mear 5% profit/ gain for the dealer... which can easily get obsorbed in petty deal breakers like shipping or tax... some of these parts are being shipped directly from the dealer, which means they had to pay shipping on top just to have it... that alone kills the 5% and hits on a 10% mark up that now places the dealers price above the others... this is a HUGE issue with Greddy.. I refused to sell it... I could buy it online at the same price I got as a Dealer!!

This has been a huge concern for dealers and I know alot of you kids think this is a great market to be in and want your own shop, etc, etc... Don't Do It!! Untill this market gets Set Pricing that is inforced by the Manufactures (ex: MSD, Endless) its a kill fest.

You dont walk into Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Sear, etc... and lowball the cashier??!!

-Drew

[!Zar!]

OP is asking for people to not charge sales tax?

hahaha. What the fuck? That's ILLEGAL.

More so, why the world do you think you deserve 20% off?

Parts are already cheap. Maybe you should start modifying skateboards since you obviously can't afford cars.

More appealing? Modding cars isn't a right. If you can't afford it than move on. Don't complain because you can't hang.

Not to mention you have no idea how sales work.

If vendors lowered their prices, how would they pay for maintaining their employees, machines and, brand as a whole?

Free shipping? Some places do that. SPL use to (still does?) only charge $7 for shipping.


This thread reminds me of people who bitch at me about how the recession is affecting them, so they ask for a deal on X item.

FML

Where do you work?

[ThatGuy]

Ungratefulness is very unbecoming in a person.

[ryguy]

I love how under your username it says "Get a job you lowballers" when you want to lowball the vendors. I guess you should get a job.

[94cc0rd]

uhh, just like everybody else already said.... vendors on zilvia are no different from any other business in this world. they are there to make money, not offer you the cheapest price available...

you just have to realize that you chose a very expensive hobby when it comes to cars and modding 240s isn't even that expensive in the "car modding world"

[420sx]

if current prices on things don't satisfy you, i think you should find a different hobby.

there are deals to be had, you are not looking hard enough. and yes, buy used when you can. saves a lot of money

[5t341tH]

modding 240s is hella cheap. try modding a lexus, infiniti, bmw or merc bro....much much more expensive

[azndoc]

Instead of jumping from shop to shop searching for the best deal, perhaps you should commit to one shop.

Build a relationship with that shop and perhaps they would be more willing to give you a deeper discount.

Sales sucks right now in every industry.

I'm glad he's sticking with the 5% discount only and not just play cut throat.

[Vision Garage]

handinpants. Give us 30% off anything you decide to sell okay?

[lflkajfj12123]

I love how under your username it says "Get a job you lowballers" when you want to lowball the vendors. I guess you should get a job.

hahahaha so true

[articdragon192]

Business need to make money as much as we want to save it.

[Om1kron]

I love frsport!!! 5 percent or not, if I had money to buy some parts from them right now they would get my business. Their prices are probably a few bucks higher than some of their competitors but their website is sure as fuck a helluva lot easier to deal with than others.

need a custom package put together that's not on their site... call em up they'll give you a quote number and call back when you're ready to order and bam.

love those guys.

[Teambadrun]

FRSPORT.com :hitit:

[midnight zenki]

You dont walk into Wal-Mart, Home Depot, Sear, etc... and lowball the cashier??!!

-Drew

OP needs to have a better understanding of business and the value of a dollar.

Madscientist, I work at Sears as a manager and you wouldn't believe the size that some of these people's balls have grown to when they walk in and try to play lets make a deal. That shit is just pathetic. Bottom line don't buy if you can't afford it, it's just that simple.

[whyrun?]

Ungratefulness is very unbecoming in a person.


Sounds like a fortune cookie.

I wouldnt mind having some more group buys.

[9s13Coupe3SX]

So much whinning, TO PLAY THE GAME, YOU NEED TO PUT IN $$$$ TO PLAY. If the game has to much stress on your wallet, suggest you find a new hobby.

Should be happy whatever advertiser give discounts, take it before its gone.

[ryangreg]

Business need to make money as much as we want to save it.


business needs to make money in order to stay open for longer than 5 years.

[drift freaq]

handinpants. Give us 30% off anything you decide to sell okay?

Shit people do that to stuff already all over the for sale section. Anything you post for sale people automatically assume they can kick you down 30% or more. LOL

Its like its even been given carte blanche by one of the administrators by his own admission.

Hahahaha this thread is comical.

[ixfxi]

I'm not trying to hate, but more or less give feedback but some of the advertisers on this site need to give a better deal to us zilvia members, for instance this one advertiser offers 5% off stuff zilvia members buy from them, but i live in california so i then have to pay 8.25% sales tax, even though i am buying through the internet... and i'm not really getting that good of a deal after all, single digit percentages make me want to look somewhere else for a better deal. 10 or 20% off sounds like a better deal.....

also not all of us are made of money, 5% off, + no taxes is good, 5%0ff no taxes + free shipping better... but 5% off is like nothing... there is a difference between lowballing, and lower prices.

this thread pisses me off to no end......



im sorry, but you're such a fucking idiot. TAX, do you understand the concept of tax? you live in a state, you drive on its roads, therefor you pay taxes for what you buy. you dont want to pay taxes? buy from out of state vendors and shut the fuck up.

you think we businesses have a choice when we're paying our quarterly sellers tax and annual income tax? we dont. and if we dont pay our taxes, WE are the ones that get fucked for tax evasion, penalties, and/or jail time.

so how about you do this, close your mouth and open your pocket and pay for what you buy.. quit being a bitch complaining about discounts and fucking TAX, which every living person has to pay. you want lower tax go live in jamaica or something, then you'll complain about not having JDM parts by your door. or like my UK or canadian customers complain about shipping and import tarrifs.. lets see how you like that.


seriously, its assholes like you which is why i am not and never will be a vendor. because you think vendors owe you something, and as if 5% is nothing. just a reminder, 5% of 1000 dollar sale is $50 bucks. i can have a nice outing and go get some good sushi for that amount. you think being a vendor is fun and easy? we have to pay hundreds MONTHLY for advertising and for what, to please some idiot who feels he's a "zilvia member." really? what did you do so special to become a member? you fuckin clicked register and now you have the capability to post, big fuckin deal. at costco, you PAY annual membership to contribute to the entire system. you're not contributing to shit. and if you're a premie, thats just a drop in the bucket to help offset the high costs of operating the forum software, computers and connectivity. basically, you're a useless parasite.

so if you think you deserve something, think again. if you think im coming off as a jerk, you're right. because im not the asshole sitting on his ass complaining on the internet that vendors owe you something. we dont owe you shit.

-- angry business owner who doesnt like to see people bitch and complain about pricing for parts that they dont NEED, but instead WANT just to fix up and modify their shitty 20 year old cars which they can barely afford.

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[JeremyR]

owning a car is a privilege.
modding a car is a privilege.

there is NOT a difference between lowballing and lower prices.

if non of these companies were around to sell you parts, you would have to get them from japan. which, when all is said and done, would cost more, and take longer to get. people need to stop bitching about prices. im fucking sick of it. get a REAL job, make REAL money, and then buy the shit you want. simple as fuck. cheap mother fuckers.

[DrtyRat]

I wonder if the OP regrets making this thread?!?! :)

[zaquanh]

move outa cali +1

[MisawaJason]

I've been nothing but happy with the deals that I've come across from vendors on this site

[ryguy]

I wonder if the OP regrets making this thread?!?!

This thread made me think about how much I miss the rep system.

:wtc:


At least one business class should be mandatory in high school.

[kognition]

Quit complaining. Get a job that pays you enough money to support your hobby. Otherwise, go buy some hotwheels at toys r us. What make's you think you are owed a 20% off deal? Seriously. There is a reason that you pay state tax. Otherwise, go buy your parts online from out of cali so you don't have to pay tax.

[duffman1278]

Under his SN it reads "Get a job you lowballers" :keke:

[94cc0rd]

I wonder if the OP regrets making this thread?!?! :)


lol i bet..:hyper:

[awesomenick]

I've been getting some awesome deals from advertisers lately.

Driveline Motoring gave me a GREAT deal on my coilovers.

Jonnie Fraz gave me a good deal on some braces.

I'm pretty happy.


Haha, and OP sales tax is nothing. Try living in UT where you have to have every damn part shipped.

[handinpants]

Shit people do that to stuff already all over the for sale section. Anything you post for sale people automatically assume they can kick you down 30% or more. LOL

Its like its even been given carte blanche by one of the administrators by his own admission.

Hahahaha this thread is comical.

I guess this thread is perfect for this,
My avatar "get a job you low ballers" is directly related to this..

however, I offer free fedex shipping on all the stuff i sell on here. no bitching no whinning, i can afford to ship for free because i fall into a certain tax bracket, but thats another thing. I can afford to pay sales tax, i just don't want to pay sales tax when buying on the internet.
Zar!! its not illegal to not pay sales tax on when purchasing on the internet, do your homework. I when you purchase something from an internet site which is based in your home state, the site generally charges a sales tax because you are a resident of that state in which they do business.

ixfxi (http://zilvia.net/f/members/ixfxi.html), has an excellent point, and I needed to hear his side of the story. No i do not think you are coming off as a jerk, not at all, but i can definitely disagree when it comes to getting popped for tax evasion, especially if you maintain your records, and numbers correctly. I know advertising costs are a huge pain in the ass, actually on this site they are really cheap which is good for the advertisors, it starts getting really pricey when you do full, half, and quarter pages in magazines.
I am surprised you don't advertise on here with your clearcorners.com site because you have a lot of nice things on there.

I didn't post this thread to get the reaction of the zilvia consumer, but more so to target from the business minded people here, to see how they can benifit from a stable set market price, which MadScientist commented on.

I am actually really happy with the results, and i don't regret posting this because it was planned out.
If you watch the news, negative things gain people's initial interest, its the positive things that develop from the people that are interested in changing the way things are.

[ixfxi]

No i do not think you are coming off as a jerk, not at all, but i can definitely disagree when it comes to getting popped for tax evasion, especially if you maintain your records, and numbers correctly. I know advertising costs are a huge pain in the ass, actually on this site they are really cheap which is good for the advertisors, it starts getting really pricey when you do full, half, and quarter pages in magazines.
I am surprised you don't advertise on here with your clearcorners.com site because you have a lot of nice things on there.

If you dont think I come off as a jerk, then you will now. Personally, I think you're a scumbag. I dont even know you and I can say that anyone who has the nerve to post that kind of shit is a cheap, worthless turd.

Even though I am someone who is in the industry, I never ask for handouts from other vendors. I always pay for what I get, and if I barter I always do my best to take care of those who help me. If someone does a good job for me, I tip them. I tip my welder when he welds parts for me, and I tip any and every person who does their share to help me. If you tip at a restaurant, then why shouldnt you tip a skilled individual who helps you in a specialized hobby?

You're not talking about tipping anyone. You're not even talking about paying what they're asking price is. You're not even APPRECIATING the 5% discount, which to you, you admitted is nothing. If its nothing, then tip us vendors 5% every time you occasionally buy something. Judging by that shitty 100x100 pixelated avatar, I can tell you that I've spent more money on restoring my racecar in 1 week than you've spent keeping your beater alive this past year. And I'm not sitting on the internet whining about 5% + free shipping, you cheap fuck.


I can afford to pay sales tax, i just don't want to pay sales tax when buying on the internet.

You think the goverment gives a flying fuck whether or not we "WANT" to pay sales tax? Its not an option, its mandatory. Here is a little link to remind you about "use tax" and how even though you think you dont owe the state tax for out of state purchases, you actually DO owe the state tax for out of state purchases: FL Dept Rev - Use Tax on Out-of-State Purchases (http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/consumer/)

Once again, you're a dumbass and have a lot to learn, young padawan.

[ixfxi]

and to be an even bigger dick, i'll publicly respond to your private message which I dont normally do, but being that you've rubbed my tits the wrong way.. allow me to retort:

you do know that i made that thread to attract real business oriented people.

i like what you have on your clearcorners.com site, actually i am wondering if its you are a distributor, or if you are in touch with companies in which i can private label the lights through?

I'm not a distributor, I'm a fabricator of over-priced, under-valued lighting products. And I have no interest in whoring out my work under any other label or outlet. Fuckoff.

[DJ_Sunrise]

MadScientist - Drew-- I miss rare trick. By the time I actually had money to spend, Rare Trick was gone... :*(

It's a free market. Companies come and go, just like customers. And the prices in the US.. for the most part, are crazy.

But in the end it is the distributor that buys directly from the manufacturer that screws everyone. Often a purchase doubles price, then the price doubles from a distributor to a shop, which makes pennies on the dollar when a consumer, consumes.

If you don't like the prices.. attack the distributors.

-Bart

[Otto347]

If you dont think I come off as a jerk, then you will now. Personally, I think you're a scumbag. I dont even know you and I can say that anyone who has the nerve to post that kind of shit is a cheap, worthless turd.

Even though I am someone who is in the industry, I never ask for handouts from other vendors. I always pay for what I get, and if I barter I always do my best to take care of those who help me. If someone does a good job for me, I tip them. I tip my welder when he welds parts for me, and I tip any and every person who does their share to help me. If you tip at a restaurant, then why shouldnt you tip a skilled individual who helps you in a specialized hobby?

You're not talking about tipping anyone. You're not even talking about paying what they're asking price is. You're not even APPRECIATING the 5% discount, which to you, you admitted is nothing. If its nothing, then tip us vendors 5% every time you occasionally buy something. Judging by that shitty 100x100 pixelated avatar, I can tell you that I've spent more money on restoring my racecar in 1 week than you've spent keeping your beater alive this past year. And I'm not sitting on the internet whining about 5% + free shipping, you cheap fuck.




You think the goverment gives a flying fuck whether or not we "WANT" to pay sales tax? Its not an option, its mandatory. Here is a little link to remind you about "use tax" and how even though you think you dont owe the state tax for out of state purchases, you actually DO owe the state tax for out of state purchases: FL Dept Rev - Use Tax on Out-of-State Purchases (http://dor.myflorida.com/dor/consumer/)

Once again, you're a dumbass and have a lot to learn, young padawan.FUCKING WERD!!!!!!!!!!! God you think the same way I do.

Before I had access to a lathe, I had a local guy to some small thing for me. When I asked what I owed him, he said "ah gimme $25" I put $40 in his hand and said thank you. He did it on the spot as soon as I went in. FUCKING SERVICE!

[handinpants]

and to be an even bigger dick, i'll publicly respond to your private message which I dont normally do, but being that you've rubbed my tits the wrong way.. allow me to retort:



I'm not a distributor, I'm a fabricator of over-priced, under-valued lighting products. And I have no interest in whoring out my work under any other label or outlet. Fuckoff.

well at $1900 for a set of jspec 180sx kouki LED tail lights, i would expect very high quality. but whoring out your product has nothing to do with my inquiry, i wanted to know if you actually make these lights yourself here in the states, or get oem parts and modify them, I have seen your work, its good. I was thinking about buying some. ... under-valued lighting products., they are under valued why?

[handinpants]

i think we all should hang out some time. all of us, especially you clearcorner.com guy, maybe drink some beer watch a movie and

[handinpants]

totally man, your a baddasss, i'm a baddass, lets start a meet, call it the baddass car meet

[HyperTek]

autobacs is going out of business, maybe you can finally get some prices you want lmao

[Shmex]

I am very open minded, you see, but it still refuses to let me talk down to car part dealers, vendors, ect.

I think as Vendors they do the best they can, with a market of people who are mostly poor as shit, they need to make their bread.

Its in a larger margin than the Vendors on zilvia. the main companies, you know, the top dogs, who set the MSRP, are possibly the ones who are greedy. I dunno myself how much it costs to make say one wheel, or a set of coils, so I just really can't comment on it.

For the dude who works at Sears, are you shitting me? I used to sell womens shoes at Nordstroms, wich is a high end clothing store. I know for a fact, they rip people off, and you should damn well know Sears rips people off.

I think (mind you not talking bout zilvia vendors, or nico, or socaldrift , ect) that the OP was maybe talking bout the Actual companies of products. But like said, I'm ignorant when it comes to that. I just know actual main manufacturer's(sp? Don't hate) could drop the price somewhat, in any business. Being greedy, and only caring about your self is no way picking up our economy, or japans, economy, or europes. The whole world is suffering economy problems, and a lot of it has to do with greed. That's my opinion on the manufacture's standpoint and what should be done with them..

I agree with every vendor that chimed. Except, those who bullshit about their fake ass parts. That's why I refused to buy used, and am willing to have patience and wait to buy new, also I wanna support our local vendors. But I know a couple, who bullshit, esp. In this economy, just to sell their shitty parts. But then again, I know of good people. But cmon, everybodyknows in this time an age, there's more scammers then real people, who sell real quality parts.

And I have a little beef that has really nothing to do to this thread. For all of you being a nerd behind the computer that talks a lot of shit, go somewhere else, cuz I'm tired of reading it. It had nothing bout being jerk, so no pun inteded to the dude who implied he's a jerk. I'm talking bout the stupid little 19 20 18 y/o that have no idea about shit, but just wanna run their mouths. Stop tryna be an e thug. If you knew, wich the OP does infact, I don't run my mouth. Where the intelecutal posts, I see a few, but bulshit filled mouths spewing diarreah...is sickening and killing forum.s. So do the op a favor, if you have nothing good to say, scram.

[CrimsonRockett]

Dude, you're 22.

Quit acting like 2 years makes all the difference in the world.

OP makes a thread, gets his ass handed to him, then acts like it was a test.

Not to mention he's getting smart about it(refer to last few posts and what it says now under his SN).

Who cares.

It's the internet.

Hell, if YOU don't like the way this thread is going, you're welcome to leave the forums.

Go complain about 5% and taxes elsewhere.

[!Zar!]

I still find it funny how most of these people think 240's are expensive to modify.

Step up and start modding Euro cars, VIP cars or, restoring old cars.

THEN you can start talking about price.

Might I add, modding cars is a luxory. Nobody is forcing you to buy these parts for your car.

Stop complaining and acting like you figured out how to fix the economy.

I've never once cried and complained about how expensive something is that I wanted.

Nor have I asked or felt entitled to a discount. Why? because I know exactly how it feels to be a buyer and a seller.

As for the guy working at Nordstroms acting like they are oh so greedy, do you know how much profit margin they are making at the end of the day?

Because a store that big first has quite a hefty price to pay for rent.

After rent they have to pay the scum who works for them.

After they pay the scum they have to pay the manufacturers for more product.

After they pay for more inventory they have to pay for franchise royalty fees.

After franchise fee's comes the states/governments tax cut.

Not to mention the other bullshit fee's such as utilities and cleaning or whatever.

They have to do ALL of that with the %100~+ they mark up of the product. Not to mention not everybody is buying something.

So please tell me how they could gain profit from lowering their prices.

Oh, I forgot to add, I did a little testing and noticed that even while a sale is going on in current times, profit didn't go up.

So you as well as the OP lose.

[Shmex]

Don't even get me started on taxes. Well you're right 2 years really doesn't matter. Its maturity levels I suppose.

I was actually going against somewhat of what he said. So by all means I wasn't bad mouthing vendors. Everybody needs to eat, live, bathe, and be clothed right?

I don't like how biiig companies rip people off, for the personal need, but that's probably not even related to this thread. And I'm so poor a 1% discount is FUCKIN AWESOME....so I apologize for the misunderstanding.

I'm not complaining about complaining......I am having a problem understanding shit talking. Is it neccesary? Nope probably about as relative as this paragraph pertaining to the original topic.

Lets get this straight. I support Independent Vendors. Always have , always will.

[Logan]

I think if anything needs to happen in regards to advertisers on here, it's that they need to stick to the 3 maximum open posts at a time

http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-specials-sales/81241-advertiser-specials-sales-rules-guidelines-buyers-read-too.html

The advertisers section has and still is very cluttered

In addition, I am not taking shots at any of the mods, since I know it takes a lot of (uncompensated) time to police the section and this isn't their day jobs

But I think it somewhat needs to come from within, and vendors need to think about the general nature of the forum rather than trying to bombard it with 5+ open posts at a time

In addition, with a lot of dealers selling the same thing, so there's tons of overlap...I'm all for competition (all you customers don't complain either since it just drives the street price down) but it just makes no sense when 5+ vendors sell the same product in the same section

[!Zar!]

The Advertisers section is cluttered as fuck...

[landins13]

you want good deals, buy from ken at enjuku, almost everything on the site is a better deal than any ive seen and when you buy stuff you get a 20$ off coupon for the next time, hes selling bc cams right now for like $80 under msrp, cant complain there. otherwise be thrifty buy used.

if you are like me and you arent a premium member why do you need to be gifted 10-20% off of parts. it doesnt cost anything to join this forum, so why do you care.

if you werent on zilvia you wouldnt get the offer, and zilvia costs nothing to be on. so either way you are getting 5% off for doing nothing more than logging onto a site.

[ixfxi]

so either way you are getting 5% off for doing nothing more than logging onto a site.

but he clicked "register," and we ALL know that takes not only talent, but also a working e-mail address.. both of which are very rare nowadays. ;)

guy is a fucking tool, and an ungrateful one at that. like i said, if 5% is nothing then he should consider tipping each and every vendor he buys from.. show some appreciation instead of being a whiny bitch.

[nisans13turbo]

I agree on this post, I get alot price quotes that are higher than my ebay seller and its the exact same item.

Although good deals do come through also like my front and rear ichiba hubs, best deal I found was here in zilvia.

[handinpants]

ixfxi, what's soo special about your Jspec 180sx lights that you sell just the lights for $1900? You're complaining about spending hundreds of dollars on advertising, I just shelled out $20k for a two page ad in national enquirer, oh and by the way all the money you spend in advertising can be taken out of taxes, but you should know that. Oh and by the way, your a real cool guy

[lflkajfj12123]

dude seriously

just shut up and lock your thread

most of this forum is angry with your stupidity right now

[CrimsonRockett]

ixfxi, what's soo special about your Jspec 180sx lights that you sell just the lights for $1900?

They'll be a thousand times better than any taillight you'll ever own.

That's what.

[racepar1]

Ok guys, let's just stop this bullshit. This thread was clearly created in bad taste. Wile I may agree that a 5% discount is pretty weak, 5% is still 5%. If you're getting a discount you have nothing to complain about, simple as that. Mike's (ixfxi) lighting prices have nothing at all to do with this thread. Why was that even mentioned here? Sure $1900 is pretty damn expensive for a set of led kouki tails for a 240, but $1900 for a set of led benz or beamer lights is not so expensive. It's all about your perspective there.

This shit needs to be closed, it is completely ridiculous that this thread is being left open.

[ThatGuy]

I'm ending this douche-baggery.

If you don't like to deals offered here, go somewhere else. The ONLY thing you accomplished with this thread, is making yourself look foolish.

The next time your bored, find something better to do then post on Zilvia.

In closing, STFU.


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