Yet Another VQ30/35 Swap interest thread

[irax]

Before I really invest money and make a solid business plan I want to know a few things. If the mounts were available to install a VQ30 or VQ35DE into your 240sx and the wiring information was readily available would you purchase it? No core charge, no k-member exchange, using factory motor mount bushings that you can buy at nissan with out having to wait for over seas shipping and a reliable source of information. With prices of good KA's on the rise and SR20DET's are illegal (not interested if your state doesn't care, it is a federal illegal motor) and people getting popped left and right. And If you guys can post any feed back I would really appreciate it. With the prices of VQ just dropping like the stock market and the cost of KA's just doing nothing but rising. If costs are not a factor, then what is ?

[SimpleS14]

Would having the VQ in my 95 S14 (OBD I) be illegal?

I would have to wait for the economy to turn around and see the feasiblity to pull of such a swap.

I'm sure the physical labor would not be difficult, but wiring would be my main concern outside of initial cost.



real off-topic: is that your g/f in your avatar ?

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real off-topic: is that your g/f in your avatar ?

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http://zilvia.net/f/media-forum-pictures-videos/239123-boxxybabee.html

^^click it

[irax]

Would having the VQ in my 95 S14 (OBD I) be illegal?
It really depends on how you go about it. Yes it can be illegal if you do not swap over simple emissions equipment. Under the California A.R.B. mandates you can swap in a newer motor into an older car if you retain the newer emissions. I do not know about other states, but in the automotive industry its like this. And I am putting it very simply, If it is legal in California it is federal legal (aka 50 state legal). If it is Federal Legal it does not mean it is California legal(aka 49 state legal). This only applies to passenger cars though.


I would have to wait for the economy to turn around and see the feasiblity to pull of such a swap.

That is part of my concern, I want to know how much of a production I should do initially.


I'm sure the physical labor would not be difficult, but wiring would be my main concern outside of initial cost.

Well, I have a good guy that will be figuring the easist way to do it. But honestly if S30 chassis owners can do a vq swap with all the factory wiring, are we just that dumb and lazy? A big problem though is that the wiring pretty much changed from year to year and model to model. But once we have more people doing this there will be more shared information.



real off-topic: is that your g/f in your avatar ?

I wish I was old enough to date 16 yearolds. No she isn't

[PoorMans180SX]

I plan on putting a VQ in my car eventually. But with the economy being so rough right now (aka I don't have a full time job) then I don't think it's going to happen real soon. It will, just not soon.

So I'd totally be down for a quality kit, even if it costs a bit.

[SimpleS14]

Well, I have a good guy that will be figuring the easist way to do it. But honestly if S30 chassis owners can do a vq swap with all the factory wiring, are we just that dumb and lazy? A big problem though is that the wiring pretty much changed from year to year and model to model. But once we have more people doing this there will be more shared information.

I wish I was old enough to date 16 yearolds. No she isn't

IDK if you can compare a S13/S14 chassis to a S30 chassis. I'm going to go with the assumption that the wiring diagram for a S30 chassis is "simple" in comparison to a S13/S14.

As for the avatar lol I had no clue

What VQ do most people consider? The 03-06 VQ from the 350Z/G35 ?

I wish I can have a VQ35HR in my S14 :keke:

[irax]

I plan on putting a VQ in my car eventually. But with the economy being so rough right now (aka I don't have a full time job) then I don't think it's going to happen real soon. It will, just not soon.

So I'd totally be down for a quality kit, even if it costs a bit.

How much could you budget for that swap? If I told you that the FWD VQ could be had for half as much as taking your KA to the shop to get rebuilt? I am talking ~$900 for a motor set. And that is ebay, you could get it from your local yard for a lot cheaper.

[irax]

IDK if you can compare a S13/S14 chassis to a S30 chassis. I'm going to go with the assumption that the wiring diagram for a S30 chassis is "simple" in comparison to a S13/S14.

It may be simple, but these guys make whole new wiring harness for their car. I can't fathom that being a simpler task than mating two wiring harness.

What VQ do most people consider? The 03-06 VQ from the 350Z/G35 ?

Fitting a first gen 3.5 from 02-05 VQ probably would be best overall since they are a lot cheaper. And with simple LEGAL mods can make good power.

I wish I can have a VQ35HR in my S14 :keke:

Well I know some one that is going to be offering an HR kit shortly... if I don't beat them to it *wink wink* Though an HR can be had for the price of an SR front clip shipped so it really is not all that expensive. And considering the things you would need to get HR performance you would still come out ahead by going HR over SR (red top)

[SimpleS14]

Well I know some one that is going to be offering an HR kit shortly... if I don't beat them to it *wink wink* Though an HR can be had for the price of an SR front clip shipped so it really is not all that expensive. And considering the things you would need to get HR performance you would still come out ahead by going HR over SR (red top)

:eek3:

Has this been done before? Got pics?

Also in your previous post you speak of the FWD VQ (ala Maxima)...how the heck can that fit into a S-chassis? I thought the motor mounting points and the bellhousing position is different.

[irax]

the motor mounts are in a different location, and i will be offereing a kit for the FWD engines. the bellhousing position is the same. And it has been done before go on youtube and type in 240sx vq35de. You would use a 350z transmission and upper and lower oilpans.

YouTube - VQ35DE 350Z Motor HIGH COMPRESSION in 1989 240SX Coupe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmXxbXeS6fk)

that one is a Frankenstein vq using the maxima block

YouTube - vq35de 240sx twin turbo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZy1UVk-vA)

that one is also a maxima block using stock ecus and dbw and is twin turbo

YouTube - 240Z w/ VQ Accel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6RsTrMgz3c)

and this one is a VQ35DE revup installed into a 240Z using all the factory electronics from a 350z.

[BRAIN_Z33]

you guys should check this shit out:

www.vq240z.com - Twistedsixx (http://www.vq240z.com-a.googlepages.com/twistedsixx)

also this bad boy:

Project VQ is Underway! - HybridZ (http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php?t=138177)


I soooooo wana get an S30. But forget all that restoration part, no time & money :(

[aoiken3]

i'd keep my 240 the way it is and get a 350z or a g37 in the future when i can afford 1. vq swap is a great thing imo, but im fine w/ wat i got

[cemtoes]

www.vqswap.com

A buddy of mine is in the middle of VQ'ing his coupe. It's coming along pretty good :)
I have some pictures on my phone I think, I'll have to look.

I say do it as long as you have money and knowledge to complete it.

[rb25crazy]

if it can be done for under 5k i'd do it =D. considering the motors are relatively new not much should need to be done to it unless it has high mileage or messed up in some way. wiring is pretty crazy though i remember reading bout that guys wiring thing on 240sx.org that guy made like a 100 page thread or something lol.

[mrflip69]

But honestly if S30 chassis owners can do a vq swap with all the factory wiring, are we just that dumb and lazy?


YES!

hahaha.

I've been following those S30 builds on hybridz too... sick shit. You see the one where the dude swapped in the 350z interior too? He kept it working with stock electronics... auto too heh. Engine sits behind the front axles too, IIRC.

So many engines can be swapped and legal, but majority of S-chassis owners choose not to do so because KA-T, SR, CA, RB.... they're just that much easier to put in and be done with. And again... lazy more than dumb.

I've been entertaining the idea of a smog legal swap for a while. 2JZ and VG30 are some possibilities, as are any LSx series.

It's fucking stupid because quite a number of Rx-7, Honda, and Datsun guys have done it legit (engine swaps). I'm probably going to look for some help from the hybridz guys to get a VQ in. It doesn't look like the vqswap guys can do stock electronics, and they've had a couple complaints in the customer service dept.

If you're going to do this, hopefully you can keep the stock hood--or just have the hood bracing trimmed. I saw another VQ swapped in an S13 and the guy had a blower sticking out of his hood.

What's the difference between a FWD and RWD block, in terms of putting power down (dyno)?

[S14DB]

Bigest issue I see with the VQ swaps on the market now (FWD and RWD) is the quality of the kit. Mainly the harness work. Some of the mount kits suck also. But, if you can get a good plug n play harness service going. I think there is money to be made.

[Rittmeister]

I'd do it, with a plug-and-play option as mentioned above. One that works with the stock gauges, etc, or at least makes it fairly simple to function with them.

OTOH, I'm currently upgrading the turbo on my SR, so this would be a minimum of 18-24 months away for me anyway...

[PoorMans180SX]

That's true, I guess you could mount up the FWD VQ just as well. It wasn't really in my mind because I've always heard that the RWD VQ is easier to mount and makes more power.

I just haven't wanted to deal with the oil pan/starter swapping and all that. But if the mounting kit was for FWD, then I might consider it.

[irax]

The thing about VQswap.com's kit is the quality of kit, and lack of support. And as far as information goes it is all scattered across the internet. On my website I will be offering a simple but very quality kit and have a forum for people to share information. And right now there is only 1 kit being offered, and that is VQswaps kits.

the FWD and RWD VQ blocks the first gen which are 02-04 dyno for about the same
First Gen VQ35 blocks have single valve timing on the intake side
Second Gen VQ35 blocks have valve timing on intake and exhaust
Third gen vq35 blocks are same as above but have dual throttle bodies

First gen 35's should make about 230hp to the wheels
Second Gen 35's should make about 260hp to the wheels
third gen 35's should make about 290hp to the wheels

now all that is just rough numbers since there are a lot of dyno information out there.

The only real difference between first gen and second is the heads, cams, and timing cover. You can actually make a first gen into a second gen. Second gen ecu's are more tuneable and from the factory they come with wideband rear o2 sensors.

[irax]

if it can be done for under 5k i'd do it =D. considering the motors are relatively new not much should need to be done to it unless it has high mileage or messed up in some way. wiring is pretty crazy though i remember reading bout that guys wiring thing on 240sx.org that guy made like a 100 page thread or something lol.

well right now my investment into my own swap is at 4.8k but if i started now and not 2+ years ago I would only be at 2.5k soo you can have it running for about 5k including paying someone else for labor and wiring which isn't that bad.

[rb25crazy]

Bigest issue I see with the VQ swaps on the market now (FWD and RWD) is the quality of the kit. Mainly the harness work. Some of the mount kits suck also. But, if you can get a good plug n play harness service going. I think there is money to be made.

what he said i'd pay to to get my thing wired up with a plug n play harness. i have an extra ka engine harness so whenever i do a swap i can still drive my car n send the harness to whomever and get it done get it back plug everythign in in a day or two and go drive it =D.

irax, make the harness do it do it do it!

and then a street legal car no more cops pulling me over for nothing! and when they do sooooooooo what nothing to fear =D

2500 for a complete legal swap..... damn i'm sold.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

yeah think its the wiring b/s that scares most people, including myself away from this swap. I thought the same thing, like wow Vq35 swap is different and its not common at all let me do that. Then i heard about the wiring nightmares that people have. I also heard some people have trouble by passing the ignition security and what not due to the 350z keys were chipped or something like that. Not to mention every VQ swapped still with facory ecu couldnt make the factory hp numbers they could make in a 350z due to the problems there having with wiring and the secured ecu. By the time i was done with the idea of using stock ecu, you start doing the numbers for a stand alone and tune and it just gets ridiculous. When it comes to the legality of the motor swap, im not on the west coast or cali in general, so wether or not it passes emissions really doesnt matter to me lol.

Now if all of them problems were put aside and you could guarantee a swappable Vq35 mount kit with harness and with the ability to use stock ecu i think people would do it more often and the VQ will be the next cookie cutter engine swap in every 240sx you see instead of an SR or the next in line KA. I mean every so often you see people selling good low mileage 2nd gen motors for $800-$1100, thats not bad at all! there for people could peice together swaps for chump change compared to an RB25 swap cost.

[JRas]

I plan on doing the swap one day, but it's the wiring that scares me.

plug and play harness, please

[DreamN]

I would really like to get this swap into a daily s13 or s14, but would like it to be completely CARB legal. Would be nice to have the wiring plug and play, but wouldn't be a deal breaker as long as a standalone wouldn't be required to run the damn thing and could actually SMOG it.

[irax]

I really doubt I can make a plug and play harness adapter affordable. Because I would have to offer something for every ecu/harness combination and that would suck.

[irax]

I was also thinking about tapping into the goverment grants for the Green Initiative to fund some Carb legal 240sx swap headers because not only does it get better MPG than a KA it also produces less emissions.

[jserman]

Would love to do a VQ swap... I miss my G... I love the NA power of the small V6....would be so much fun in a S13

[rb25crazy]

I really doubt I can make a plug and play harness adapter affordable. Because I would have to offer something for every ecu/harness combination and that would suck.

what's affordable? like $400 for the plug n play wiring harness? that's a price i'd be willing to pay. since, i wouldn't wanna spend like a month trying to figure it out.

[irax]

I thought you meant like an adapter. But a harness can be done for about $500. But when VQ666 is ready for a hard launch all the information will be free so you can do it your self or we will have a harness exchange option for particular ECUs.

[rb25crazy]

whats the difference between an adapter and the wiring harness? it's not the same thing?

[irax]

adapter

https://www.wesellcarparts.com/store/ProdImages/350z_utec.jpg

harness

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r50/specdracing/engineharnesslabeled.jpg

[flclsteve]

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do want

[SimpleS14]

I'm also guessing that A/C is no existent with this setup....right?

[irax]

well... with custom lines you can affix ac to anything

[Akiros]

vq30 should be the next big swap in 240's for sure. seriously. I got my 00 vq30 and z33 trans for 600 SHIPPED. decent trans and easily as much power NA as a stock SR. It will just become easier to swap the more people do it.

Yes, I'm interested.

[DreamN]

I'll just reiterate. Make sure it's CARB legal and you've got a buyer right here for whatever kit you produce.

[GSXRJJordan]

What do you plan to do about NATS?

That's literally the only reason I haven't put my SR up for sale to do VQ-T =P

[Gorilla Unit 33]

What do you plan to do about NATS?

That's literally the only reason

Exactly what I said LOL well almost

[irax]

if you go vq30de-t and you use the 96 maxima ecu, there is not nats
as long as you have the factory dash harness from a vq car, there is nothing special about the NATS wiring.

[drift freaq]

if you go vq30de-t and you use the 96 maxima ecu, there is not nats
as long as you have the factory dash harness from a vq car, there is nothing special about the NATS wiring.

VQ30 will not be legal because the VQ30 was never sold in a RWD configuration in a car in the U.S. It has to be a VQ35 because even if you get VQ35 out of the late model Maxima it will still be legal because Nissan was selling a VQ35 in the G35 and 350Z.

[Infamax]

VQ30 will not be legal because the VQ30 was never sold in a RWD configuration in a car in the U.S. It has to be a VQ35 because even if you get VQ35 out of the late model Maxima it will still be legal because Nissan was selling a VQ35 in the G35 and 350Z.

I thought it didn't matter if it was a fwd engine into a rwd car. Isn't it as long as all the emissions of the motor are present and it's a newer motor than the chasis, it's able to be BAR'd? I don't think mounting and and transmission used affect its legality.

[irax]

I thought it didn't matter if it was a fwd engine into a rwd car. Isn't it as long as all the emissions of the motor are present and it's a newer motor than the chasis, it's able to be BAR'd? I don't think mounting and and transmission used affect its legality.

ultimately it is up to the ref. last time I spoke to A ref they said there would be no problem but things may have changed. I am going to go to the local ref again soon and talk to them about it because other things have changed so I want to make sure that fwd as rwd is still a viable option.

[firm tofu]

I thought it didn't matter if it was a fwd engine into a rwd car. Isn't it as long as all the emissions of the motor are present and it's a newer motor than the chasis, it's able to be BAR'd? I don't think mounting and and transmission used affect its legality.

only thing arb said was it has to be from a passenger car and retain all emission equipment.

[flip3d]

I'm in. I'll get rid of my SR in a heartbeat for a VQ swap.

I don't live in Cali so ref isn't an issue.

[irax]

only thing arb said was it has to be from a passenger car and retain all emission equipment.

emissions equipment like exhaust manifolds and intake manifold...

[firm tofu]

emissions equipment like exhaust manifolds and intake manifold...

yes, was also told that the motor has to be cali certified as well. as for the wiring, the last rumor i heard was mckinney and jwt were working on the ecu wiring.

[irax]

JWT has wiring for 96 maxima ecu. The motors arent cali/federal, the ecu is.

[drift freaq]

I thought it didn't matter if it was a fwd engine into a rwd car. Isn't it as long as all the emissions of the motor are present and it's a newer motor than the chasis, it's able to be BAR'd? I don't think mounting and and transmission used affect its legality.

If this was true then we would all be running Sentra SER SR20DE's(as they are the same vintage and per code the engine has to be same year or newer) in our cars and turbo'ing them. Why are we not? Its on the books in California the motor was never sold in a RWD configuration here and it cannot be bar'd or ref'd for that very reason.

Of course if someone did a money is no object situation Like Joe tried to do get the SR20DET Bar'd it might happen but you would wind up paying the state thousands of dollars to even get them to consider it. In the end making it completely to costly to make it worthwhile.

[Rittmeister]

That, and there are enough differences between the FWD and RWD SR blocks to make it really, really impractical.

[esqueue]

JWT has wiring for 96 maxima ecu. The motors arent cali/federal, the ecu is.

I have a 99 i30 and the manifold and the intake Manifold is different that non cali ones. The FSM shows more differences between cali and other models.

[irax]

well... the long blocks are the same, its the peripherals that are different is what i meant.

[Bushido]

so what are you going to offer?

mounts, driveshaft, shifter relocation, and wiring service?

[Mangudai]

Wasn't one of the main reasons people didn't want to do it was because of the power loss?

[irax]

so what are you going to offer?

mounts, driveshaft, shifter relocation, and wiring service?

mounts, shifter relocation, and local wiring service but wiring information will be made available on the web page. I don't want to offer a drive shaft since there will be multiple depending on which diff you go with.

Wasn't one of the main reasons people didn't want to do it was because of the power loss?

it was power loss due to older EMS's not being able to take full advantage of what the motor had to offer. OR power loss due to using the wrong ecu IE VQ30DE-K with out retuning it properly. There is no reason why a vq swapped 240 should not put out as much power as a Z/G/M or Max/Alti/J35 does with the same mods.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

So yeah what's your plan about solving the nats problem?

[rb25crazy]

isn't there a lot more to this swap? i remember that guy on 240sx.org was talking about the fuel is different. doesn't use pressure to measure it anymore so you had to change the tank or something like that.

[SimpleS14]

excuse my newbie question, but what's "nats" ? Some sensor?

[Flicktitty]

i know theres places that do plug and play stuff for 2JZ's into S-chassis the wiring service is anywhere from $450-$1000.

I say go for it. any idea of a rough estimate on the price to do it? might be fun.

[irax]

excuse my newbie question, but what's "nats" ? Some sensor?

Nissan AntiTheft System but the part you need is called the NVIS which is a little dongle that goes around the ignition lock

[Yellow4g63]

Stock Speedo won't work with the VQ swap right cause there is no Speed sensor in the trans.

[rb25crazy]

do it do it ! i wanna get a smog legal engine in my car that makes more power already =D. plus the sound of a 350z motor is quite nostalgic even in stock form =DDD

[irax]

what does that even mean?

[GSXRJJordan]

isn't there a lot more to this swap? i remember that guy on 240sx.org was talking about the fuel is different. doesn't use pressure to measure it anymore so you had to change the tank or something like that.

Going from a carb'd car to a fuel injected car, you'd need a high-pressure fuel pump. All fuel injected cars have "high pressure" systems though, so no there's nothing you'd need to do fuel-wise (except a higher-flow pump) to prep the car for the swap.

Nissan AntiTheft System but the part you need is called the NVIS which is a little dongle that goes around the ignition lock

Are you saying you've got a connector that will trick the car into thinking the 350z/Maxima/etc steering column crap is connected? Or are you saying that you would still need the VQ-car's column?

Stock Speedo won't work with the VQ swap right cause there is no Speed sensor in the trans.

Any workaround for that? I don't use my speedo now, but that is an interesting point...

[irax]

that column crap bolts on to the 240sx column. so you need the 2 things from the Max/Z/G/M column, NVIS and the ignition lock.


as far as speedo goes there are multiple work aroungs but the simplest is using an abs source and a dakota digital converter.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

Stock Speedo won't work with the VQ swap right cause there is no Speed sensor in the trans.

an easy fix to that would me to run a s15 rear. Since they have ss in them an then just wire that up if that was the case.

[irax]

an easy fix to that would me to run a s15 rear. Since they have ss in them an then just wire that up if that was the case.

you will also need the s15 abs computer as well.. but yeah it is very simple compaired to what others think.

[Yellow4g63]

I was thinking about a VH swap but not having A/C blows. Future customer right here.

[vq35hrNismo]

dude thats sick right. wouldn't that mean you can fit the 4.2vq in there? with such a light body damn. in my 240 im going rb though. the vq in the 240 sounds hell mean!!

[vq35hrNismo]

you know..the more i thought about it..(not sure if discussed earlier). i dont think id go with a vq swap. sounding a little heavy.

[DreamN]

What really needs to be done to get this going in cali is someone needs to finish a CARB legal VQ swapped 240SX. Once that happens people will more than likely sell and forget any thoughts about doing an SR swap if they can have something better and legal.

[DrifterE]

What really needs to be done to get this going in cali is someone needs to finish a CARB legal VQ swapped 240SX. Once that happens people will more than likely sell and forget any thoughts about doing an SR swap if they can have something better and legal.


That is the damn truth! I'd sell mine in a hearbeat for the legal vq swap, the more I do to my SR the more I would like it to be legal. Then i've always had the VQ swap in the back of my mind. I'm on the lookout for it. And in line if its plug and play, the harness, everything else is cake to get. Maybe not the difficulty, maybe just time. I got a job to keep in this crazy world now.

[GSXRJJordan]

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

[gotspins13]

any info on where to pick up an a vq? and the adapters for the wiring?
im looking to get a list going for prices and such,

[jzepol1985]

I don't think any vq's are left on zilvia look on craigslist or your local auto wreckers. It can range anywhere from 2g's and up for a 350z/g35 you can buy a altima/maxima for less but I don't Know if it's more work in the long ru

[edsones14]

Would definately do it! Ive considered this swap ever since i saw it done in one of the tuner mags, cant remember which one. I have a g35 and i love the car. If u could put together a swap that is feasable and reliable im in. If u could make it somewhat as easy as an sr swap that would be money.

[LugNut18]

Now that I picked up another 240, I'm loving this right now. Even though there is already a kit, I would much rather by from a member, especially one who has done the research.

[DrifterE]

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

This would also mean swapping in stuff thats needed from the VQ emissions equipment and making it work together with the KA equipment?

[murda-c]

This would also mean swapping in stuff thats needed from the VQ emissions equipment and making it work together with the KA equipment?

No you'd get rid of the KA equipment other than the gas cap.

maybe you could get away with keeping your evap or something like that if they work the same.

[irax]

I don't think any vq's are left on zilvia look on craigslist or your local auto wreckers. It can range anywhere from 2g's and up for a 350z/g35 you can buy a altima/maxima for less but I don't Know if it's more work in the long ru
here is a rwd motor set. 1900! fucking awesome deal!
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/233708-vq35de-rwd-motorset-engine-6spd-harness.html

you can get a fwd motor set for 500-900 and spend maybe another 600 to make it rwd compatible and still spend less money by getting my motor mounts

[poziden]

im in... msg length

[DreamN]

That is the damn truth! I'd sell mine in a hearbeat for the legal vq swap, the more I do to my SR the more I would like it to be legal. Then i've always had the VQ swap in the back of my mind. I'm on the lookout for it. And in line if its plug and play, the harness, everything else is cake to get. Maybe not the difficulty, maybe just time. I got a job to keep in this crazy world now.

All I would need to have is proof that it was CARB legal and a write up of some sort that I can do it. No need for plug and play.

^^^ The biggest problem I can spot with the whole "smog legal"/passing the ref aspect is the emissions equipment - you have to have the entire emission system from the donor car - meaning when you buy a VQ motorset, you'd then have to junkyard-hunt EVERY piece of emissions equipment (and associated accessories) and install them "in the OEM configuration"... that means not only does each piece have to function as OEM, they have to be sitting in the same places/etc as OEM.

... This is MUCH more difficult than just swapping the motor in, and I imagine that's why you don't see anyone passing the BAR refs with it yet.

^ yeah, it's a total bitch, but the good thing is that there are a select few trying to get this done. Can't wait till one of them does so I can finally dive in on this VQ thing.

[PoorMans180SX]

you know..the more i thought about it..(not sure if discussed earlier). i dont think id go with a vq swap. sounding a little heavy.

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.

[bardabe]

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.



or you can use the stock ecm, im working on Irax's wiring at the moment, i plan to make his swap fully functional.

[irax]

Dude, they're hardly heavier than KA's. And they can be placed farther back in the chassis. Way better weight distribution than an RB.

irax,

I will be buying a RWD motor set soon.

If your mounts are out I will buy them asap.

And to everyone else. If you're not worrying about carb stuff, then Haltech makes a full plug-n-play system with harness for $2300.

That's most likely what I'll be getting (Unless I decide to run MoTec for some reason) and then I'm installing an AIMsports Dash.

That way I don't have to worry about sensor compatibility so much.

you could spend $2300 on a stand a lone, and it probably would be a great investment. But unless your spending 10k+ on your engine build you probably are not going to need it. You can tune the stock ecu, and get some neat stuff for less than $2300.

[gregfarz78]

Interested in seeing if this project takes off, I changed my mind about swapping a VQ for other reasons but I'd still love to see this become a more common/easier swap.

anyone in PA looking for a VQ get in touch with me I got one for sale

[PoorMans180SX]

you could spend $2300 on a stand a lone, and it probably would be a great investment. But unless your spending 10k+ on your engine build you probably are not going to need it. You can tune the stock ecu, and get some neat stuff for less than $2300.

Well if you make an all-inclusive kit, then I'll buy it.

[MrChow]

I would love to do a good affordable VQ swap. Good power and reliability in one.

[johngriff]

If you have the capital and design for the mounts now. Get a production run done in china, cheap metal + economic collapse = least expensive possible manufacturing costs.

Then just wait until next year and start selling the swap equipment.

[irax]

yeah, problem with that is I support local.

[irax]

Well if you make an all-inclusive kit, then I'll buy it.

what ecu do you want to use? if you want to use a maxima ecu because their cheaper ill sell you my personal engine harness when you buy a kit.

[PoorMans180SX]

what ecu do you want to use? if you want to use a maxima ecu because their cheaper ill sell you my personal engine harness when you buy a kit.

I want to use whatever ECU I can that still allows me to use the VTC. I don't really care past that. As long as I can get the engine in the bay and running like it does in a Z/G then that's fine. Beyond that I'll go stand alone with a different harness.

[gojira]

any updates?

[irax]

super secret update coming up pretty soon.

[rb25crazy]

where's this super secret update??? =D just wondering

[mrflip69]

I hope that update includes "BAR'd" or "REF'd" :)

[SuicidnS13]

So a usdm vq swap thats newer than our cars could almost be considered legal?

[rb25crazy]

I hope that update includes "BAR'd" or "REF'd" :)

that's what i'm saying brother!

[Homer_Simpson]

If I can take it to the ref to make it legal then hell yes I would ditch the SR for a VQ.

[irax]

that's what i'm saying brother!

I don't even know what it is yet. Juan is keeping it a surprise.

I am hoping that it means that the wiring is done.

fuck yes that would be hot!

[DreamN]

Stop with the teasing and show us a fucking legal swap already! I have money, make me spend it! LOL

[irax]

i have the FWD kit, its ready but i wont release it just yet until at least we have one of the ecu's wired up and running right.

[Ablack92hatch]

Any word yet?

[irax]

Like I said, we have a FWD kit right now so if you want it let me know. We are wiring up the the beast as we speak.

[irax]

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/102/l_10d9bb1e421a4304bd7b6b6ff0ec6094.jpg


LOL!



finished product!


http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/93/l_3afec7fe0f624ba989bd3fa19e31bc4e.jpg



Warning... Juan is fucking awesome!... he's never this mean i just made this because of this picture of me and him... he looks like the card crusher guy


http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/95/l_cc5ac01439034e90aa01eda730913124.jpg



ok enough of OT sorry guys! I just thought it would be funny to share :-D!!!!!


Just for reference so you guys know..

Juan is the Mexican Card Crusher Guy

http://www.igwot.com/v8/crap/card_crusher.jpg
just by looks only though

[bardabe]

LOL ^^^^ that's what 4 rounds of beer pong and some shots will do to yah but yes guys i am working on wiring right now, to be able to keep the Nats and BCM. =) eta will be a surprize.

[irax]

fuck that was a good night!

[bardabe]

Guys. im working on the wiring for this car / VQ35 swap. keeping the Stock ECM NATS and imobilator is a pain in the ass shit ton of work. but tell you its going to be worth it. I have been spending the last couple MONTHS going through the FSM and other variable sources and now I'm just going through Zilvia. sorry i haven't updated you guys but i don't want to spread any miss information.

Taking care of customers cars, looking up a completely new swap, making mounts and making it all come together while still making money for bills and keeping track of things is very overwhelming, but don't loose faith or get desperate. I'm working very hard and I will tell you guys This swap mechanically is very doable as you will see very soon. the wiring is the main part that is just something completely different. not your average / typical engine swap. I do plan to make the wiring available to the public as i will do the wiring services for other people. however DIY is not so friendly. I have many years of experience and it's giving me a hard fuckin time. but I will handle it and make this dream a reality. I appreciate all of you guys for being very patient with me. I appreciate IB for being patient but we all know this is worth it. being able to keep the stock ecm and make it work properly will be something new.

I know several people have tried the DIY and failed miserable on the wiring. and i can understand why. but fear not my friends a solution is coming. i don't have a time or ETA at the moment. like said earlier this wiring job is at a whole new level. but it is being worked on and will be available to the nissan comunity soon.

any questions be sure to Post them up or PM me.

-Juan

[ichibans13.5]

sounds good cant wait for a finished product!

[unlegendary]

get her done, son!

[bardabe]

Here is an idea of what the under dash wiring alone looks like. its almost like nissan didn't want us to tamper with it. making it so hard on us.

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/Bardabe/0418091057.jpg

[irax]

Here is an idea of what the under dash wiring alone looks like. its almost like nissan didn't want us to tamper with it. making it so hard on us.

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/Bardabe/0418091057.jpg


pfffft juan is just saying that to rake up the hours





lol jk jk

keep up the good work juan

[unlegendary]

will a vq35de swap allow me to be stupid dumped like matty cakes? or will i scrape the cross member like im too cool.

[irax]

with our kit it doesn't lower the crossmember so you can be as low as matt power drift hour!

[Team DET]

i want to do this so bad as i just got a ref ticket today got to sell the SR first

[unlegendary]

with our kit it doesn't lower the crossmember so you can be as low as matt power drift hour!

This has to be the sexiest comment in this thread. If anyone doesn't know how low Matt Powers is, look him up!

[SuicidnS13]

So roughly how much do you think your rwd kits are going to be IRAX?

[deolio]

do you need a norcal demo car by chance? i'll whore my car out :D

[irax]

sure you can be the demo car if you buy a kit :-)

[murda-c]

this has to be the sexiest comment in this thread. If anyone doesn't know how low matt powers is, look him up!


do not use google image search oh god my eyes

[irax]

little did we know that Matt Powers is also a name of a Gay porn star. Us moderated image searching with google images.



but this is him...http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/3205/21/33010010117_large.jpg

anyways back on topic

[unlegendary]

when i was typing "look him up!" i was assuming that people would use the zilvia search engine lol.

[SinisterSntra91]

Found this:
VQ35 ECU Rom Tunes / Anti Theft (Key Code) Removal - FreshAlloy.com Forums (http://www.freshalloy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193748)

Seems to be the answer to all of the wiring/anti theft problems.... That is if this guy can do what he says he can do. Already sent him a PM to reprogram mine for turbo.

[GSXRJJordan]

Wow, that sounds great! Keep us posted :)

[irax]

FUCK YES! wait... I'm probably still screwed I bet he can do it only to 04 maximas and 03 350z and newer. that seems to be the going trend.

[SinisterSntra91]

FUCK YES! wait... I'm probably still screwed I bet he can do it only to 04 maximas and 03 350z and newer. that seems to be the going trend.

Im sure he can do the 02 ones why not?

[irax]

maybe, if techno square can than I'm pretty sure anyone can. UpRev does not support 02/03 maxima ecu's nor does JWT(other than just a basic tune)

[95 maxima se]

im keeping an eye on this, ill be buying this kit soon

[95 maxima se]

you can used the turbo xs UTEc with the 02/03 maxima ecu too
maybe, if techno square can than I'm pretty sure anyone can. UpRev does not support 02/03 maxima ecu's nor does JWT(other than just a basic tune)

[S14DB]

you can used the turbo xs UTEc with the 02/03 maxima ecu too

UTEC is a piggyback not a ECU flash. It won't deal with the NATS.

[unlegendary]

Found this:
VQ35 ECU Rom Tunes / Anti Theft (Key Code) Removal - FreshAlloy.com Forums (http://www.freshalloy.com/forums/showthread.php?t=193748)

Seems to be the answer to all of the wiring/anti theft problems.... That is if this guy can do what he says he can do. Already sent him a PM to reprogram mine for turbo.

anyone question or approve of his credentials yet?

[Homer_Simpson]

anyone question or approve of his credentials yet?
I've never dealt with him but he has been around for a while on FA. From his previous posts over the years, the guys is very knowledgeable.

[irax]

He is from XAT racing... if that has any credibility to it.

Personally I'm willing to give it a shot just as long as it is what he says it is then it doesn't matter.

[wgJoY]

I'm keeping an eye on this.

[DreamN]

This thread needs more cowbell!


Quick chat with Bardabe at the BBQ meet (btw great meeting you bro) was insightful. Hoping he gets what he's asking for done so that we can get the ball rolling on this great project.

[SinisterSntra91]

anyone question or approve of his credentials yet?

Well I am negotiating with him now, unfortunately if I do have him do the reprogram it will be awhile before I can credit him as my car is nowhere near completion if all goes well so someone else may have to take the plunge before me and give a review.

[irax]

blah blah blah 02 maxima ecu blah blah blah

sorry.. That is not an ecu supported by the program i use.



ffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccc cccccccccccccckkkkk


figures as much....

[GSXRJJordan]

Damn Ib, that sucks. Are you limited to that ECU because you went VQ30? I assume a VQ35 car would have a different harness/more expense?

[95 maxima se]

irax i think your in maxima.org right? im really confused now lol. ok here goes, theres lots of 4gen maxima with vq35 swap, so if i buy your kit+FWD vq+z33tran, i can use a 4th gen ECu right and wiring harness or am i wrong? well thats what ive read in the org. let me know because soon ill be buying ur kit but i have more questions

[GSXRJJordan]

irax i think your in maxima.org right? im really confused now lol. ok here goes, theres lots of 4gen maxima with vq35 swap, so if i buy your kit+FWD vq+z33tran, i can use a 4th gen ECu right and wiring harness or am i wrong? well thats what ive read in the org. let me know because soon ill be buying ur kit but i have more questions

Yup, that sounds about right. The harness matches the ECU. Worst case, your lower harness tranny plug wouldn't match up (RWD vs FWD) and you'd have to splice in a couple wires, no biggie.

[irax]

the problem lies with the 5.5gen ecu. it is an easier ecu to wire up than the 6th gen maxima ecu. in that there is no can lines for 6mt ecu. and unlike the 7thgen you don't need IPDM like the 350z's either.. so basically all you need to wire up is the bmc,nats and everything else should be fine. i don't know why i'm complaining i know for a fact that technosquare can manipulate the 5.5gen ecu for what i want. but it still requires the bcm and nats to function. Atleast I can still tune it.

my swap is a 2003 maxima block using a 2002(5.5gen) maxima ecu.

4th and 5th gen maximas are vq30de-k
5.5 gen and on maximas are vq35de

if you want a super easy vq35de swap.. swap over the vq30de-k timing components and call up JWT about tuning a 3.0 ecu to run a 3.5 with correct valve timing and everything. I have the wiring diagram that JWT uses for the 3.0 ecu's and its very simple. The reason I am not going with a 3.0 ecu/timing is that I want to smog the car. Why don't I go with 350z ecu? i don't know I probably will when the car runs later on since those ecu's can pretty much be tuned like standalones now.



and by wire up bcm/nats i mean plug it into the harness and give it correct power source

[SinisterSntra91]

Why would you do this when the guy said he can eliminate all the need for a BCM, NATs etc...?

[irax]

he can not do this on all vq ecu's

i think he's just using the uprev software

I THINK

if i am correct then he can only work on 05 350z ecus and newer
and 04 maxima ecu's

[rb25crazy]

that's still a great thing no? those motorsets will come down in price and are better no? lol that's what he says at least. i havent really seen any 05+ motorsets though for cheap they are like 2.5k or more lol....

[95 maxima se]

well im getting a sick deal real JDM VQ30DET, does anyone know if you can bolt a z33 on a jdm VQ-T motor? i know ive seen vq30 bolt on to a z33 trans

[Bushido]

yeah z33 trans will bolt to vq30det

where did you get the engine from?

[95 maxima se]

from this guy on another forums
yeah z33 trans will bolt to vq30det

where did you get the engine from?

[irax]

yeah you can bolt on the z33 trans to that vq30det and you can use a US 96 maxima ecu to wire it up too.

[95 maxima se]

sweet thanx bro ill be buying the motor soon then by the z33 trans and then ill be buying for kit

[irax]

np, let me know when your ready.

[unlegendary]

i PM'd that martin guy if such deletions are illegal in california, i'm still waiting for an answer but i wanna see if anyone knows on here.

[DreamN]

Don't see how they would be.

[drift freaq]

i PM'd that martin guy if such deletions are illegal in california, i'm still waiting for an answer but i wanna see if anyone knows on here.

Its not something the manufacturer would approve. Of course the manufacturer never foresaw people wanting to swap these engines into older cars. Though fact is all the modules NATs,BCM,IPDM, are chassis specific not emission specific. If there is no code being thrown and you have all the proper emission stuff then it would not be illegal.

Thing is given the propensity of the average 240 owner to toss even non horsepower robbing standard emission stuff? I still think a lot of you would just fuck the install anyways.

Now you can get all offended or pissed off about it. Fact is I have seen it way to often. Just because this guy says he can do it does not even get us out of the woods yet.

I have kept my mouth shut through a lot of this bullshit ( yes I called it bullshit) because I have been researching this shit for awhile. I am not about to go out and tell everyone hey look I have a secret and make it work and tease you all. Most of these guy are more than willing to do that. VQswap.com teased people, SinisterSentra teases people, certain others tease people as well.

Ya I said that, rake me over the coals for it, fuckers!

I suggest all of you sit back and wait till a few people have actual legal finished swaps and or products before jumping into the fray or being led down the road of speculators.

This is exactly why I have not said anymore than I have said and will not. I chose not to lead people on with this stuff. I only do and then show.

[OptionZero]

When do you plan to have your own VQ setup completed, since the Syko stuff was supposed to be great and I totally want a smog legal swap.

[drift freaq]

When do you plan to have your own VQ setup completed, since the Syko stuff was supposed to be great and I totally want a smog legal swap.

well I hate to put out a deadline on it. I am shooting for sometime before mid august. With the way things have been lately? I have kind of slowed down my progress. I have been kind of preoccupied with a lot of things. Though I am itching to get it done.

[DreamN]

^ It's either you or Chris that I'll be buggin' once that day comes so get ready for it. :D

[drift freaq]

^ It's either you or Chris that I'll be buggin' once that day comes so get ready for it. :D

I am doing a HR. I would not bother with the DE anymore. To me the HR is such a superior engine there is no reason to waste my time on a DE.

[DreamN]

Oh right, forgot about that. I want an HR anyway so I guess you're the one getting bugged for sure :D.

[unlegendary]

no one's dipping yet, or well i'm definitely not. i'm still waay sketchy on it

[irax]

i'm the biggest cock tease of them all.

;-)

[irax]

just got a message from martin xat

"i am using the new osiris pro tuner beta software"

so... there you have it, nothing really new and amazing, just a new "hey i can do this" that those of us know already know

[irax]

honestly looking at stuff online.. if your interested in doing a vq swap don't be like me, get a 350z engine harness and ecu, you will love your self since you can have the bcm/nats and other bs removed from either uprev or other companies.

[DreamN]

^ Yup, don't even know why you're going through the headache of using a FWD motor and Maxima ECU.

[unlegendary]

cause it's cheeeeaaappp

[DreamN]

^ But filled with headaches. Not to mention 350Z engines are cheap as hell too if you're looking at DEs rather than HRs. For the amount of money being spent and the horsepower upgrade upgrade it's a great bang for the buck deal.

Hell, $2,500-$3,000 for a clean low mileage engine with all wiring harnesses and ECU is a bargain in my opinion. Spend a little more and get a newer engine, have the NATS and BCM flashed out of the system, and have Bardabe do all the wiring. BAM! You're closer than anyone else to having a CARB legal swap.

All I know is as soon as someone finishes the swap I'll be on the search for a freshly wrecked newer model 350Z with an HR engine (If to expensive, fuck it I'll settle for a DE) in it so that I will have everything necessary at my disposal to be CARB legal as well.

[irax]

it doesn't matter what block you use really. the fwd blocks are cheaper. 3 years ago i didn't know that the 350z ecus would be unlockable like it is now. I started using the maxima ecu because as far as everything goes the 02 maxima ecu has less to wire up than any of the other vq35de ecu when wiring up everything.

[DreamN]

The block that is used definitely matters to me purely on principle. It would bug the hell out of me knowing it's a Maxima engine (FWD) rather than a 350Z or G35 (RWD) engine.

Nothing against using the engine if it works.

[irax]

on what principle do you mean? the fwd blocks aren't any weaker or stronger than 03-05 RWD blocks. As far as specs go the RWD/FWD engine specs are exactly the same, only the fwd engines have half a point in compression ratio less than some rwd blocks. the 350z has 11.3:1 the g354door/maxima/altima/murano have 10.8:1 CR. Cams are the same, cranks are the same, timing equipment is the same, oil is the same, oil pump is the same.

[DreamN]

But it came from a FWD car. That would be my only issue. It's on the principle that I would like the 350Z because it's what I would want to tell people I have. It's not because of what may or may not be different on a spec sheet, it's simply because I want an engine that originally came in a RWD car and specifically being a 350Z. That's it.

It's simply to keep the voice in my head happy lol.

[irax]

lol... when i talk to people in person about it i just say 350z engine just to simplify things.

[GSXRJJordan]

I'd prefer the FWD engine, just because you know it's probably been babied it's whole life :)

But srsly, after talking to Juan and Dave at teh ZOMGBBQ, I think my next S-chassis will have a boosted HR in it... motor is just too good to pass up. I'd trade my semi-built RB25 for a HR, if manifolds and turbo didn't cost so damned much.

[DreamN]

With such a new car and with most engines having less than 30,000 miles I doubt there is much to worry about when considering an HR swap.

I'm already convinced of wanting an Z powered S13 daily coupe with all options. It'll be perfection in my opinion.

Can already imagine it... Color choice would be either Midnight Blue or Sapphire Blue (Both OEM colors), SE model with power everything, 350Z/370Z Seats and reupholstered rears to match, Swap the carpet for a clean OEM black/charcoal one from an 89/90, S13 DCC install, Pioneer Double DIN unit w/ upgraded 6.5" all around with a 4 channel amp, 5 Lug conversion with some suspension goodies, rolling on Advan RGs Gold 17x8.5 +31 (+15mm spacers all around), Kouki Type X nose and side skirts with Silvia valances, add a skyline gts wing for kicks, and I'm in love.

Damn this thread!!!!! RAWR!!!! Finish already!!!! LOL

[SinisterSntra91]

SinisterSentra teases people, certain others tease people as well.


This guy again..... How exactly am I teasing people? Get a life dude, I have nothing but contributed to this forum on the VQ swap, along with xxtokesxx, irax and some other people. We are offering up the information and making head way with everyone else. Excactly what you are supposed to do as a community. I have given out all the information I have available to me. What exactly have you done? Oh yeah thats right shit on other peoples ideas and tell them they are no good rather than helping. All I have heard out of you is "When I do this...." and "When I do that....." There is alot of claims but you havent shared a damn thing with anyone other than you not hesitating to drop your so called "big balls of VQ knowledge" on everyones forehead. You are so far useless, until you actually have something to contribute like I told you in the last thread, GTFO and quit wasting space, your not helping at all.

[drift freaq]

This guy again..... How exactly am I teasing people? Get a life dude, I have nothing but contributed to this forum on the VQ swap, along with xxtokesxx, irax and some other people. We are offering up the information and making head way with everyone else. Excactly what you are supposed to do as a community. I have given out all the information I have available to me. What exactly have you done? Oh yeah thats right shit on other peoples ideas and tell them they are no good rather than helping. All I have heard out of you is "When I do this...." and "When I do that....." There is alot of claims but you havent shared a damn thing with anyone other than you not hesitating to drop your so called "big balls of VQ knowledge" on everyones forehead. You are so far useless, until you actually have something to contribute like I told you in the last thread, GTFO and quit wasting space, your not helping at all.

You know what shithead, I posted accurate wiring info in your thread because you were posting bullshit. Instead of accepting it you and your boys wanted to argue about it and say I was shitting on your thread.

I posted info and your retarded stealing other peoples design ass could not take it.

If you want to tease people with crap before having it, then rip other peoples ideas off and sell it as your own? Be my guest.

This is IB's thread not yours and in fact I know IB and we talk on a regular basis. I give IB credit that you cannot even begin to deserve.

Stop stealing other peoples ideas and saying you did it better when its the same shit. You ripped off VQswap.com's whole install kit and basically cleaned it up and thats it. That puts you on the same level as Chinese knock offs.

Oh and stop posting shit about wiring you do not know. Then when you are corrected on it crying like a little baby.It was proven you were wrong on the wiring by me and several others. Instead of accepting it you said I was shitting on your thread. Give me a break. You want help

Here is a kit thats less than yours and does not require dealing with a crossmember

VQ-240sx swap Products McKinney Motorsports (http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/prod_VQ-240sx+swap)

not my favorite but a whole hell of a lot better than yours.


Oh and the only reason I refrained from posting in your thread? Was because instead of accepting what I had to offer you cried like a little baby.

If people don't want to accept my input I am not going to give it. Plain and simple. If you can't take the criticism? You should not even be posting.

[racepar1]

This guy again..... How exactly am I teasing people? Get a life dude, I have nothing but contributed to this forum on the VQ swap, along with xxtokesxx, irax and some other people. We are offering up the information and making head way with everyone else. Excactly what you are supposed to do as a community. I have given out all the information I have available to me. What exactly have you done? Oh yeah thats right shit on other peoples ideas and tell them they are no good rather than helping. All I have heard out of you is "When I do this...." and "When I do that....." There is alot of claims but you havent shared a damn thing with anyone other than you not hesitating to drop your so called "big balls of VQ knowledge" on everyones forehead. You are so far useless, until you actually have something to contribute like I told you in the last thread, GTFO and quit wasting space, your not helping at all.

The honest to god truth is that EVERYONE is teasing right now. NOBODY has a complete car to show anyone. NOBODY has 100% for sure got the wiring right. You're all a bunch of fucking cock teases dammit! LOL!

Seriously though Dave has done a lot of research, especially on the wiring. If he came into your thread and told you that something was a bad idea or not accurate information I would be more then willing to bet that he is correct. Everyone is doing what they can to put this shit together.

[SinisterSntra91]

You know what shithead, I posted accurate wiring info in your thread because you were posting bullshit. Instead of accepting it you and your boys wanted to argue about it and say I was shitting on your thread.

I posted info and your retarded stealing other peoples design ass could not take it.

If you want to tease people with crap before having it, then rip other peoples ideas off and sell it as your own? Be my guest.

This is IB's thread not yours and in fact I know IB and we talk on a regular basis. I give IB credit that you cannot even begin to deserve.

Stop stealing other peoples ideas and saying you did it better when its the same shit. You ripped off VQswap.com's whole install kit and basically cleaned it up and thats it. That puts you on the same level as Chinese knock offs.

Oh and stop posting shit about wiring you do not know. Then when you are corrected on it crying like a little baby.It was proven you were wrong on the wiring by me and several others. Instead of accepting it you said I was shitting on your thread. Give me a break. You want help

Here is a kit thats less than yours and does not require dealing with a crossmember

VQ-240sx swap Products McKinney Motorsports (http://www.mckinneymotorsports.com/prod_VQ-240sx+swap)

not my favorite but a whole hell of a lot better than yours.


Oh and the only reason I refrained from posting in your thread? Was because instead of accepting what I had to offer you cried like a little baby.

If people don't want to accept my input I am not going to give it. Plain and simple. If you can't take the criticism? You should not even be posting.

$450 and no shifter bracket? Nice complete kit.

Your stupidity and arrogancy amazes me. You still some how think that I have claimed to be this all mighty VQ swap guy that has all the answers. Please show me where I ever made these claims or gave off that impression. Dont worry guy nobody is going to ruin your life goal and take your spot as the VQ swap god. Nor do I really give a crap on who gets one done, who knows the best way to do it yadda yadda yadda. I have a life outside all this car business. I know your life is dedicated to this and anyone who questions you well HOW DARE THEM!? I know I am not going to make alot of money off these kits, you hit the nail right on the head once the chinese get ahold of the kit its pretty much done. My kit is not a rip off of VQswaps. Obviously you have never seen my kit vs vqswaps. What they charge for their jank ass kit is unbelieveable. My kit uses a completely different mount setup and no sway bar spacers. HMMMMM my shifter bracket and transmission bracket are similar, but seriously how many different ways can you redesign those two pieces? You know what the overall difference between the kit I offered and theirs? Brace yourself this might be a shocker QUALITY! I use thicker metal, better welds and I make sure everything fits oh did I mention I charge half what they do? Look up all the people who bought from vqswap.comand see how many people that bought from them were satisfied, not many.

Oh and you really need to get a reality check. Your so called helping of people is not helpful when you attack them and tell them how stupid and bad their idea is.

On my thread even when all I was doing was offering up a way to mount these motors not wiring which I said OVER AND OVER AGAIN, you still shit on it. I mentioned a couple of methods I had heard of you just had to tell me how stupid they were, I asked for you to show me alternatives, never saying once you were wrong, because quite frankily I dont know it all and you never offered anything informative. All you could do was put down any method that wasnt your way. Here is some examples of that convo incase you forgotten:

The first time I had ever talked to you and the first question I had ever asked you in that thread:

I am not saying your wrong, but why would it be a problem for the 35 running a reprogrammed 30 ECU to not pass smog? Without the VVT its nothing more than a bored and stroked 30. Any evidence that it wont? Out of curiosity...

How did you reply? (Now keep in mind running a VQ30 ecu on a VQ35 is a valid method of getting the motor to run, there is a bit more to it but Maxima guys do it all the time):
Your in Ohio. I am in California. First off running a VQ30 ecu on a 35 engine would not pass the ref or the smog tech. They are not dumb. Second, disabling the power of VVT on a 35 lowers the HP a fair amount.

This has been documented on other forums. Third off they guys on the east coast that ran a VQ30 ecu setup on a 35 were seriously down on power. This is shit that was covered almost two years ago.

Why cripple your engine? Thats what your suggesting doing. Thats just stupidity for stupidities sake.

Its not a question of being wrong its question of not doing something stupid to fix something.
There are smart ways to do things and there are stupid ways. What you suggest above is very unintelligent and ass backwards.

Did you not read what I and Gregfarz78 wrote above the intricacies of these ecu's and how well they are tuned for these engines? You're basically saying why don't you cripple the engine to make it legal. Which it still would not be legal anyways because of what your doing.

There are a lot of codes you would throw as well, if you tossed a VQ30 ECU on a 35 and the guys in on the East coast have documented that as well.
Plus the guys on the East coast jury rigged a bunch of other stuff as well and they brag about being the best wiring guys for the engine in the country. LOL

Do you want me to give you any more reasons why its just a dumb idea?

Please either do the research or start using your brain or both.

Wow bud thanks for the very non attacking words of wisdom, I cant quite figure out how a few more posts like this ever made us think you werent helping, shit what was I thinking?

And the last thing I said to you was:
As far as drift freaq goes, I understand the point he is trying to get across. Which is why I am going through the trouble of putting a full 350z harness in my 240sx because I could not agree more that if your going to do it do it right. Thats how I feel about anything. I will not sell this kit to anyone and till I am absolutely positive that I am satisfied with it. Point of it all is that I am providing the means of getting this motor into your vehicle not the wiring. Instead of offering ideas on how the wiring may be done he is shooting down every alternative. For someone who seems to have all the answers he offers nothing to back up his claims. I know more about this swap than he thinks I do. I just dont personally try to put my nuts on peoples chins with my vq knowledge.

So drift freaq its time to put up or shut up. If you have answers then back up your claims. If you dont then get the hell out of my thread because your so called community do-gooding is accomplishing nothing if you have no information to offer. As stated before you have already voted that you are not interested. So either back up your claims and turn over the information you are supposedly so eager to share with everyone or STFU and leave the thread. Its that simple.

Damn I really cried my eyes out like a baby there didnt I?

And your reply was:
Oh yeah you didnt reply.

None of what you said was backed up, there was no evidence. If you have done the research show us your sited work, some kind of proof, something. If you dont have that info its not valid. Not once did I ever say what the best method is, not once did I ever say you were wrong. Unlike you I am sharing my info with the community offering it up to everyone. What have you shared? Nothing but your arrogancy and attacking of people.

With that being said go jack off, bust a nut, get some ass do whatever it is you have to do and stop being such an asshole. Nobody is saying your wrong.

And P.S.
I know plenty about the wiring, dont ever question my capabilities, you have no idea what I am capable of. At least give me that respect as I give you.

[irax]

LOLOLOL! ladies ladies ladies!!!

[racepar1]

LOLOLOL! ladies ladies ladies!!!


For realzzzzz!!! That time of the month and shit! LOL!

[irax]

i woke up this morning (4pm lol) and was like
"hey lets check out zilvia maybe i got more response on my thread"

then i get this shit

and i'm not going to bother reading it.

[drift freaq]

Oh and you really need to get a reality check. Your so called helping of people is not helpful when you attack them and tell them how stupid and bad their idea is.


The first time I had ever talked to you and the first question I had ever asked you in that thread:



How did you reply? (Now keep in mind running a VQ30 ecu on a VQ35 is a valid method of getting the motor to run, there is a bit more to it but Maxima guys do it all the time):


Wow bud thanks for the very non attacking words of wisdom, I cant quite figure out how a few more posts like this ever made us think you werent helping, shit what was I thinking?

And the last thing I said to you was:


Damn I really cried my eyes out like a baby there didnt I?

And your reply was:
Oh yeah you didnt reply.

None of what you said was backed up, there was no evidence. If you have done the research show us your sited work, some kind of proof, something. If you dont have that info its not valid. Not once did I ever say what the best method is, not once did I ever say you were wrong. Unlike you I am sharing my info with the community offering it up to everyone. What have you shared? Nothing but your arrogancy and attacking of people.

With that being said go jack off, bust a nut, get some ass do whatever it is you have to do and stop being such an asshole. Nobody is saying your wrong.

And P.S.
I know plenty about the wiring, dont ever question my capabilities, you have no idea what I am capable of. At least give me that respect as I give you.


Wow, lots of bullshit sniipped, hmmm you misquote me, you even take stuff out of context, so it says stuff I never said. LOL


Oh and by the way I never said I liked the Mckinney kit. LOL but it sure seemed to tweak you. LOL


Dude I have been around the 240sx community for years, lots longer than you have. I have quite a bit of swap experience under my belt with lots of engines. I was building 240z's when your egotistical ass was in diapers.

Oh and of course now you will say I have an ego.LOL yup everyone does. Difference is experience.

You call the bullshit you throw at me respect? Well respect like that is like worse than having a enemy i.e. its not really respect.

Oh and by the way you really should do more reading because I have helped a lot of people on this forum. Your sorry ass, has only promoted your stolen idea knock off kit.

Which was a knock off of another already bad design.



Oh and I never questioned your wiring, I corrected the bullshit and misinformation you were posting about wiring. Now, if this reflects on you enough to piss you off? One wonders.

Though get it straight. I never said shit about your wiring. I did comment and correct what you were saying about the wiring though.



Amazing how one comment sets you off on a tirade. If you had just owned up to it in the first place none of this would have happened.

You did cock tease before your kit was out.

You did copy somebody else's kit and not really improve on it.

That is truth and the latter is my opinion. Try to be more original next time.

Oh and if I am working on something I am potentially marketing? Its downright foolish for me to just give it away to everyone before I am done. Thats pretty much shooting oneself in the foot from a marketing perspective.

As is teasing people with stuff before you have product. Neither of which I have done or will do.

Oh but you will call my arrogant because of it. LOL You really feel threatened by all this, don't you? Otherwise you would not have responded to being labeled a tease.

If you have anything more to say p.m. me and keep it out of IB's thread.

[OptionZero]

how bout stop talkin shit in this thread

first one to pump out a legal vq swap wins, loser sucks the others' balls

jeez

[irax]

clearly!

lolol

[SinisterSntra91]

wow, lots of bullshit sniipped, hmmm you misquote me, you even take stuff out of context, so it says stuff i never said. Lol


oh and by the way i never said i liked the mckinney kit. Lol but it sure seemed to tweak you. Lol


dude i have been around the 240sx community for years, lots longer than you have. I have quite a bit of swap experience under my belt with lots of engines. I was building 240z's when your egotistical ass was in diapers.

Oh and of course now you will say i have an ego.lol yup everyone does. Difference is experience.

You call the bullshit you throw at me respect? Well respect like that is like worse than having a enemy i.e. Its not really respect.

Oh and by the way you really should do more reading because i have helped a lot of people on this forum. Your sorry ass, has only promoted your stolen idea knock off kit.

Which was a knock off of another already bad design.



Oh and i never questioned your wiring, i corrected the bullshit and misinformation you were posting about wiring. Now, if this reflects on you enough to piss you off? One wonders.

Though get it straight. I never said shit about your wiring. I did comment and correct what you were saying about the wiring though.



Amazing how one comment sets you off on a tirade. If you had just owned up to it in the first place none of this would have happened.

You did cock tease before your kit was out.

You did copy somebody else's kit and not really improve on it.

That is truth and the latter is my opinion. Try to be more original next time.

Oh and if i am working on something i am potentially marketing? Its downright foolish for me to just give it away to everyone before i am done. Thats pretty much shooting oneself in the foot from a marketing perspective.

As is teasing people with stuff before you have product. Neither of which i have done or will do.

Oh but you will call my arrogant because of it. Lol you really feel threatened by all this, don't you? Otherwise you would not have responded to being labeled a tease.

If you have anything more to say p.m. Me and keep it out of ib's thread.

lol..... Wow..... your bold enough to say shit about my experience...... wow you really dont have a clue.....misinformation on stuff you never said when I directly quoted you? LMAO such denile..... I dont give a shit about your experience dude, it dont mean shit when it really comes down to it. Your a waste of space, and I am not the only one that said it check my thread big guy.... You didnt correct shit, there is nothing wrong with my wiring method and you know it... Didnt improve on the design? How the hell do you know?????

[Bushido]

^ don't even bother replying to him, it's well known that drift freaq is a douchebag.

[bardabe]

Guys Cut the Crap, it's like ive always told people, stop arguing and just show proof make your car run with a 100% good running VQ35 on stock ECM. FWD RWD or AWD block for all i care.

stop pointing fingers and arguing like little kids in elementary school. get your shit done and whoever gets the first swap done carb legal running 100% on stock ECM can say

"see bitch i told you so"

[gregfarz78]

What do you guys think about vq35 block with vq30 heads and vq35 cams? I know the vq35 heads flow better but with port/polish the vq30 heads should be at least able to match or surpass the flow of vq35 heads. It seems wiring would be a hell of a lot easier.

[SinisterSntra91]

Guys Cut the Crap, it's like ive always told people, stop arguing and just show proof make your car run with a 100% good running VQ35 on stock ECM. FWD RWD or AWD block for all i care.

stop pointing fingers and arguing like little kids in elementary school. get your shit done and whoever gets the first swap done carb legal running 100% on stock ECM can say

"see bitch i told you so"

Im not doing it for the bragging rights, I am doing it for myself bragging rights dont mean shit to me. None of what I am doing is top secret because I know that anything I do someone will figure it out and let everyone else know how its done. With the internet, nothing is safe from being copied. JWT has had their stuff copied, hell Nissan themselves cant keep people from hacking their computers, they claimed nobody could unlock the GTR ecu and it was done before the GTR even made it here. My car wont be finished anytime soon due to the extensive body work and modifications being done to the chassis and the fact that I didnt just do the swap I built a whole turbo kit for it too. My car would have been done yesterday if all I was after was a VQ35 swap.

What do you guys think about vq35 block with vq30 heads and vq35 cams? I know the vq35 heads flow better but with port/polish the vq30 heads should be at least able to match or surpass the flow of vq35 heads. It seems wiring would be a hell of a lot easier.

I think this was already done or something along the lines of a similar setup. There are so many different methods of doing this swap, all of them as of right now have their pros and cons. Eventually someone with enough time and research to come out with the best one. I do not have the free time to even try so I just decided on one method and rolled with it. Its not easy by any means, but its fun and challenging to me.

If I had to do it all again, I would have found a VQ30DET, with a 350z 6spd, maxima wiring harness and either a reproggramed JWT maximaecu or run the stock Y33 VQ30DET ecu. That is the setup I am helping my buddy with along with building my car. That method would have been the easiest to me, but I was already balls deep into my method with too much money invested to change methods so I am finishing what I started.

[irax]

*rolls eyes*

[DreamN]

RAWR!!!!!!!! Legalize it! LOL

[mehsilvia]

I just love all the accusations about "knock-offs" and "copied" kits in this thread.

What in the FUCK do any of you expect when we are dealing with a swap in its infancy stage. We actualy need MORE copies and knock-offs if you ask me. The more attempts at perfecting the latest "release", means we will get cheaper and higher quality product in the end (or as any of us get closer to doing the swap).

And for those who are (or claim to be) "competing" in this market, why dont you just simply do it with your Pricing and Quality? All of the bantering back-n-forth is just gonna hurt your credibility in the end.

And Dick Teasing???? You have got to be kidding me. Until it is a finished, documented and/or marketed product, its gonna be nothing but a tease for ANY of you waiting for someone to do it for you. No one is DONE with it, and no one has STATED as such. So just sit back, relax and do a little :wackit: until its out.


Read the Thread Title:
How ready would you be to swap in a VQ if more information was public, and cheap kits

All of these discussions are in fact on topic. And we need more input from all who are "working" on the swap.

So, lets ALL get back to sharing what we know, what we have tried and where we are going next with this shit.

[simmode1]

If I had to do it all again, I would have found a VQ30DET, with a 350z 6spd, maxima wiring harness and either a reproggramed JWT maximaecu or run the stock Y33 VQ30DET ecu. That is the setup I am helping my buddy with along with building my car. That method would have been the easiest to me, but I was already balls deep into my method with too much money invested to change methods so I am finishing what I started.

I am soooo glad to hear you say that. I'm saving up now to pull the trigger on a s13 VQ30DET swap and would love to see an install thread from you guys.

Using the Maxima wiring harness for that swap is a complete revelation to me. And I'm still not sure what the best route is to have the turbo manifold clear the steering linkage... Can you link a thread detailing a VQ30DET swap into a U.S. s-chassis? Or should I just wait until you and your homie post an VQ30DET install thread?:naughtyd::hyper::coold:

[xxtokesxx]

Drift freaq - Having knowledge out the behind is great, but knowledge doesn't mean anything if you don't apply it, or utilize it to help others. Be that as it may... your approach on critisizm kind of stinks. Criticizing others is great (even when its tough love), as it leads to better products... but ultimately you seem to just be discrediting others instead of building them up (at least from what I see). Why so negative? I'm sure you have wealths of knowledge, that's great... but keep in mind nobody is trying to steal your thunder or discredit what you have accomplished. Just be positive... maybe even aid, it will help us. That's just my observation. I'm not really trying to argue, and I'm not taking sides here. Everyone just needs to tone down and look at the big picture. Were trying to make a VQ swap possible for the average joe. Also, keep in mind we live in SW Ohio. We don't have the same emmision issues that CA does.

Your comment was that B is teasing. I'm declaring that that statement is not true. There is no way you can't relate... We just do things and share them as they are discovered when the time is available to do so... just like most people at the beginning of their accomplishments does. Why do we share it? Because its exciting... Unfortunately, this isn't something that we do full time (although I wish it was) - we have jobs just like everyone else. It is a hobby. It's what we have been doing for years. We are just hoping that everyone gets as excited as we do... why? Because excitement from the community brings us the drive and ambition to move forward and keep going. Having a huge project in the garage on a single dudes income with a regular full time job is great but you know as much as anyone else it can be hard sometimes. It's not teasing. The truth is we just cant rush things because the expendible funds aren't that plentyful. I can assure you if I won the lottery it would be a different story. :)

Ultimately, I have nothing to defend... because what you see is what you get... it is what it is. There are no claims, there is no high exhaulted crap, there is no huge multi million dollar business here, no amazing advertising and magazine shop cars, just average joes (Sinister, Mike, and I) trying to work on a dream, our dreams, and help others to do it as well. That's all I have to say on the matter. You can think what you want and take that for what it is... queue it up.

I am soooo glad to hear you say that. I'm saving up now to pull the trigger on a s13 VQ30DET swap and would love to see an install thread from you guys.

Using the Maxima wiring harness for that swap is a complete revelation to me. And I'm still not sure what the best route is to have the turbo manifold clear the steering linkage... Can you link a thread detailing a VQ30DET swap into a U.S. s-chassis? Or should I just wait until you and your homie post an VQ30DET install thread?:naughtyd::hyper::coold:

Right now I have a thread on sr20-forum.com about the swap... I'm positive when things settle down that I'll transfer the information over here. FYI The Exhaust housing is pretty much directly in the path of the knuckle/column (Shame isn't it!). Right now the easiest option is making simple custom setup to move the turbo location. This is why we developed the turbo kit the way that we did. I actually just finished purchasing all the metal for my turbo setup. Sinister's car was the guinea pig and Mike did an AWESOME job welding it. Fabrication at its finest (at least to me).

This was the first 30 minutes rendition for the turbo relocation back when we were pondering our solutions in CAD that would work on the vq35 and vq30. We kind of used it to figure out what kind of length of pipes we would need. (This was back when we were considering a T3 inlet... after some though it is now a t4 - Also this is at the front side of the motor post exhaust manifolds).
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f254/xxtokesxx/1995%20240sx%20Base/VQ%20Project%20Pictures/Vq30detprelim1.jpg

[irax]

it would of been smarter to design something like the vq30det but mount the turbo on the passenger side IMHO having the turbo right there might create too much heat on the radiator.

this thread is starting to get funny to me! we all need to realize that none of us here were the first one to do a vq30/35de(hr) swap. We ALL are silver place medalists, some of us are really bronze medalists and really need to realize it. For this part of the 240sx community to progress we all really need to share and have less brovado about it. If you want to do your own thing, then never post on the internet where people can see. I have been following your thread on sr20-forums since it started and the only thing i ever have to say about the way you and sinistersentra do things... is concentrate on running the car first! after its starts up, idles, drives.. then slap that bad ass turbo on there and take it further, now this is just my opinion.


w/e my site is almost ready and so will the forums be up too.
my product is almost done and I wont be ready to sell until after i beat the shit out of it while its on my car. I am not worried or threatend by others doing the same.

[SinisterSntra91]

it would of been smarter to design something like the vq30det but mount the turbo on the passenger side IMHO having the turbo right there might create too much heat on the radiator.

The turbo being there really wont create a heat issue. We come from the land of big power FWD SR20DETs and we cram big turbo in there all day that are literally right against the radiator. No issues. Passenger side is an option if your going small but room is limited especially once you get the manifolds in there, I am pretty sure you cant get anything big in there.


this thread is starting to get funny to me! we all need to realize that none of us here were the first one to do a vq30/35de(hr) swap. We ALL are silver place medalists, some of us are really bronze medalists and really need to realize it. For this part of the 240sx community to progress we all really need to share and have less brovado about it. If you want to do your own thing, then never post on the internet where people can see.

Exactly this is why I am not in a huge hurry to get this car done. Its not about bragging rights or who does it better. This is for myself and I post for those that want to come along for the ride. I like watching extensive builds just like others. You may not agree with everything I do, but this is mine and my way. Ill do what I want! lol


I have been following your thread on sr20-forums since it started and the only thing i ever have to say about the way you and sinistersentra do things... is concentrate on running the car first! after its starts up, idles, drives.. then slap that bad ass turbo on there and take it further, now this is just my opinion.

I appreciate your opinion, but I for one hate doing things twice. Putting the turbo kit on there really has nothing to do with getting the car to run. You can always leave the stock fuel management system on there for first start up/idle purposes, then upgrade from there. Turbo setups are nothing but pipes, hoses, fittings, and fuel management. Getting the car to run is not the hard part, its designing and fabricating a kit that clears everything and is well thought out for maintance purposes. I would rather do it all at once and get it over with. Its the longer road for my build, but the kit is almost done. I just bought my wastegate so that should complete my turbo setup piping. With the completion of that and the radiator mounting, I can pull the motor back out, tidy up the engine bay and have the chassis painted and ready for assembly. I am not far off.

[bardabe]

haha im actually going to cock tease for once for everyone in socal that has been waiting for me to finish up the VQ wiring. my welder's Gas solenoid took a shit wednesday night. so yesterday and today ive been doing the final extractions from the under dash harness and all that good stuff. progress is good, here is a picture of all the bullshit that was removed. ;) enjoy!

http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss179/Bardabe/0710091310.jpg

[irax]

which amounts to almost everything from the dash harness since you only need so little.

[rb25crazy]

dang thats a lot removed reminds me of a fatman going on liposuction =X soooo, you almost done huh?!?!?!? since you said final extractions =X

[unlegendary]

which amounts to almost everything from the dash harness since you only need so little.

found a guy that can delete stuff or is that a bit of sarcasm

[Schwartzy]

coming from somebody who has a vq35 swapped vehicle...it is definately worth every penny i have an 03 nissan sentra se-r specv and it has the 06 altima se-r engine in it. I would definately take this over a turbo 4 any day. torque FTW. I have a guys number if the op is interested in getting some tips on the wiring. My car is running all original instruments in the dash i kept my a/c and P/S. running an 02-03 maxima ecu and putting down high 12's in the 1/4 with torque for days. snaps my 225/45 KDW's loose like donut tires.

[irax]

found a guy that can delete stuff or is that a bit of sarcasm

only need 10% of the underdash harness at best.

the people that can 'delete' stuff off of the ecu's can only do it to 350z's g35 coupes 04 sedans and 04 maximas/altimas.

[lewisfk]

if ths is your DD, DONT DO IT! But if u have another reliable car, go for it! Mazworx, and Mc Kinney motorsports have pretty much everything you will need to get the job done.

[irax]

if ths is your DD, DONT DO IT! But if u have another reliable car, go for it! Mazworx, and Mc Kinney motorsports have pretty much everything you will need to get the job done.

mazworx doen't have anything VQ on their site. only VHVG

[bardabe]

if ths is your DD, DONT DO IT! But if u have another reliable car, go for it! Mazworx, and Mc Kinney motorsports have pretty much everything you will need to get the job done.

it's a pain in the ass, but after its all said and done why not do it? it's reliable its newer and its fun to drive, not to mention not having a FMIC and resirc valves will trip people out, N/A Power is fun

[DreamN]

If anything this is the best swap to do if you want a reliable daily with some good all around power. Reason being is it's legal, as long as you follow the proper procedures that is. Low mileage engines are a dime a dozen nowadays and when swapping them into a much lighter chassis talk about amazing fuel economy. It's seriously the best of both worlds.

Honestly, I can't wait till everything is ready. I'm eager to own a VQ35HR powered S13 Coupe with all the options. :D

[bardabe]

Sweet looks like I only have a few bugs to work out before I go ahead and try to fire it up. Looks like the Nats and BCM arent having any issues comunicating with the ecu after my extractions so im glad, the TPS and Throttle body are giving me a few problems but thats not a big issues (or I don't think it is) I'm working on that right now taking a break looking over diagrams!

aside from that I only got Codes for Fuel Temp, Fuel Level and Cruise Control.

I need to find a maf so it stops throwing the AIT code.

[bardabe]

Sweet, everything works, as of right now, theoretically it should fire right up
Only got these codes now
P1490 Vacuun Cut Valve
P1564 Cruse Control Steering Switch
P0113 IAT High Input <--- working on it
P0183 Fuel Temp
P0463 Fuel Lvl High
P0447 Evap Canister
P2138 Accelerator Pedal Circuit Rance / Performance Problem. <--- done

Update, P2138 was just that i needed to calibrate the Gas pedal. that's taken care of. just waiting on MAF now and everything should be good!

[Yellow4g63]

which year motor do u have?

[bardabe]

2002 Engine ECM and all electronics

[irax]

so we started the engine today

boy was that fun!

and scary!

had a fuel leak and it squrted fuel everywhere. have an exhaust leak but thats going to be taken care of

[GSXRJJordan]

Nice Ib!!!

No video? Lol.

[flip3d]

I would rather someone fab up an A/C bracket instead of turbo manifolds :P

VQ seems like it would be powerful enough in an S13.

[niSE7EN]

hmm... I just joined in on all this. I can't wait to see a VQ30 powered S14........
Hey B and Ameen.

[irax]

Nice Ib!!!

No video? Lol.

could not find my video camera

[JAY!]

When this is ready, will you be able to ship to Australia? Would really like to do a VQ35 swap.

BTW, when will your site/forum be up and running?

[irax]

forums are up right now, i'm still working on the storefront and main site.

vq666.com &bull; Index page (http://www.vq666.com/forum/)

[niSE7EN]

hmm... I just joined in on all this. I can't wait to see a VQ30 powered S14........
Hey B and Ameen.


haha, i just got the ball rolling on my VQ30DE S14 build
check it out

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/261644-240sx-build-project.html

[Yellow4g63]

YouTube - VQ35DE Motor with Z-Fever tuned ecu. Standalone run, all security bypassed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtcCPtLBXvI)

[WoolyS14DET]

I about to do a VQ swap in my new track car (S14) so this is good. I just joined your forum (vq666.com) Im getting excited !! :naughty:

[JRas]

I just want to see someone start a build thread and do it.. :smash:

[irax]

I about to do a VQ swap in my new track car (S14) so this is good. I just joined your forum (vq666.com) Im getting excited !! :naughty:

please spread word about the forum !

[WoolyS14DET]

please spread word about the forum !

Will do !!! It's nice to see that your a local guy
I am going to be doing a complete write up when I start.

[mehsilvia]

YouTube - VQ35DE Motor with Z-Fever tuned ecu. Standalone run, all security bypassed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtcCPtLBXvI)

I just nut my pants :wackit:

[irax]

haha, i just got the ball rolling on my VQ30DE S14 build
check it out

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/261644-240sx-build-project.html

feel free to post your build thread on my forum! and tell mr.sentra and xxluggagexx lol jk w/e their screen names are to go too!

[SinisterSntra91]

feel free to post your build thread on my forum! and tell mr.sentra and xxluggagexx lol jk w/e their screen names are to go too!

Its funny how you keep making these sarcatic comments and then turn around and say your just kidding. Really makes us want to join your forum. :cj:

[SimpleS14]

YouTube - VQ35DE Motor with Z-Fever tuned ecu. Standalone run, all security bypassed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtcCPtLBXvI)

So that means all I have to do is figure out how to mount this into my 240 and go them for the wiring?

[irax]

Its funny how you keep making these sarcatic comments and then turn around and say your just kidding. Really makes us want to join your forum. :cj:

what ever man, i thought is screen name was xxtotexx like luggage tote then later i looked at it and its toke. if you were hurt by that i'm sorry.

[irax]

So that means all I have to do is figure out how to mount this into my 240 and go them for the wiring?

no, you would go to them to have your ecu flashed with the BCM/NATS/IPDM removed from the requirements, and figure who you want to buy the mounts from and what radiator you want to use.

[Yellow4g63]

So that means all I have to do is figure out how to mount this into my 240 and go them for the wiring?

That's part of the trick, u might need to work out the spedo deal yourself.

[chibo]

I am subscribing to this.

[niSE7EN]

yeah dude i just joined your forum ill post my build there

[SimpleS14]

no, you would go to them to have your ecu flashed with the BCM/NATS/IPDM removed from the requirements, and figure who you want to buy the mounts from and what radiator you want to use.

I see....so the big question (or concern) is what to do about wiring.

[unlegendary]

have barbadbe.. or whatever his name is do it. hahahah. dude man if big ballin wooley starts on this, i'm sure it'll get done in a couple of weeks lol.

[WoolyS14DET]

have barbadbe.. or whatever his name is do it. hahahah. dude man if big ballin wooley starts on this, i'm sure it'll get done in a couple of weeks lol.

Im going on vacation for just over 2 weeks and when I get back its on like donkey kong !!! :naughtyd::naughtyd:

[DreamN]

Where's Jaun (Bardabe) in this mix. Dude's been quite about the wiring.

[irax]

he's actually pretty sick right now, so i hope he gets well soon!

[bardabe]

Where's Jaun (Bardabe) in this mix. Dude's been quite about the wiring.

I;ve been pretty sick these past few days, friday and saturday i was off in las vegas visiting the future wife, anyway, will get back to working on the VQ car today and tomorrow hopefully deliver it to Mr. IB on Wed or Thurs, so he can button her up. (install body panels, shifter, all the suspension etc etc)

Wiring is Strictly confidential to BPD (Bardabe Performance Development) if you want your VQ monster wired up, you will need to contact me. for pricing and details. i Will not, repeat WILL NOT, be making any how to's tutorials, or DIY's
:lfault:

[mehsilvia]

I;ve been pretty sick these past few days, friday and saturday i was off in las vegas visiting the future wife, anyway, will get back to working on the VQ car today and tomorrow hopefully deliver it to Mr. IB on Wed or Thurs, so he can button her up. (install body panels, shifter, all the suspension etc etc)

Wiring is Strictly confidential to BPD (Bardabe Performance Development) if you want your VQ monster wired up, you will need to contact me. for pricing and details. i Will not, repeat WILL NOT, be making any how to's tutorials, or DIY's
:lfault:

Pics of future wife, or it didnt happen :naughty:

Well, my project is back in full force. Sold off the hatch today, so that will kick my butt into gear on this shit.

Ill be PM'ing you and IB real soon to get my wiring done. VQ is gonna get torn down next week to see what the rod-knock is gonna take, then that bitch is gonna get mounted into the Vert.

Do hope your feeling better
~Chris

[bardabe]

sorry she's 17 1/2 u gotta wait 6 more months lol

[mehsilvia]

sorry she's 17 1/2 u gotta wait 6 more months lol

Um, thats what "private" messages are for - lol

[unlegendary]

future wife huh? someone is taking this seriously lol, oh well don't take it from me. i'm the guy that has relationships that only last a year or two.

[OptionZero]

I;ve been pretty sick these past few days, friday and saturday i was off in las vegas visiting the future wife, anyway, will get back to working on the VQ car today and tomorrow hopefully deliver it to Mr. IB on Wed or Thurs, so he can button her up. (install body panels, shifter, all the suspension etc etc)

Wiring is Strictly confidential to BPD (Bardabe Performance Development) if you want your VQ monster wired up, you will need to contact me. for pricing and details. i Will not, repeat WILL NOT, be making any how to's tutorials, or DIY's
:lfault:

smog legal, no CARB on my ass?

[irax]

smog legal, no CARB on my ass?

smog legal with carb sticker. and never have to worry about ref ticket or smog check visuals but aslong as you retain all the smog equip from the engines care you have nothing to worry.

[OptionZero]

i'm sold, this is what i'll be saving for

[DreamN]

OMG it's gonna happen. Finally!!!

[bardabe]

hey guys, start up video stock ecm, running bcm and Nats

car needs a new gas pedal current pedal is bad, and it also needs a Crank Angle sensor, current one is bad, other than that she is good to go

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[chibo]

Get this thing sorted so I can do this swap instead of a SR.:Ownedd:

[DreamN]

Very nice. Now take it to the ref already. I want to see the sticker on the side so I can orgasm at the fact that it's legit.

[OptionZero]

looks like it might have hood clearance problems? just the angle?

[Nezahualcoyotl]

aww man was reading this from page one and was hoping to find a finished product....
come on guys do it already. i want. :2f2f:

[bardabe]

Get this thing sorted so I can do this swap instead of a SR.:Ownedd:
I already know both of the problems.

1) Upper Oil pan was grinded down by previous owner where the Crank angle sensor was supposed to bolt down, so it dosent sit at the correct angle or distance from the flywheel ring thats why it takes so long to start. once the upper oil pan is replaced it will start right up.

2) Gas Pedal TPS is bad, throwing code for Throttle Circuit performance, once the new throttle pedal is here it wont have any limp mode problems.

other than that the only other codes, are for VSS signal being to high (no abs source signal. or abs ecu at that, a Dakota Digital Converter will solve that issue.then the sensors in the gastank for the evap stuff other than that no other codes 6 in total including the ABS and Powersteering pressure codes all emissions related nothing Osiris Can't fix

Very nice. Now take it to the ref already. I want to see the sticker on the side so I can orgasm at the fact that it's legit.
yeah me too haha

looks like it might have hood clearance problems? just the angle?
yeah, motor is litteraly 1/16th of an inch from the cross member i can't humanly get it any closer without it touching the crossmember when the engine torques thats as low as it will get. cut out the skeleton and raise the hood!

[chibo]

What is your estimated normal cost for this swap? I'm looking at around $4000 for a S14 SR swap into a S14 said and done doing it right. Will this be doable in the near future with a VQ?