my budget sleepy eye conversion

[Jus Skott]

here's my crack at. i'll try to get better pics this week. w/ them on. :wan:

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/l_9aee47bc896c47528d0c9b99543f2d8c.jpg
get 4 of these from the junk yard pontiac bonner-ville is a good spot. all on the fire wall. and are sealed.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/3/l_75ed40ad81c2441fa77209c9e5cbd9a5.jpg
the bottom of the relay connector should be a 4 wire like this. color of wires mean nothing. :)

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make a cardboard template, cut out of metal and spot weld onto the bare headlight cage. after which measure out where you want the lights to sit.

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/59/l_bf4de71f88864767836374ce1c204dc9.jpg
after words this is how the lights will hang. then raise the cage for wiring.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/52/l_840d3cd44e6845e981c75163c6fda547.jpg
right behind the cage on the core support is a great location for the light and relay ground.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/19/l_21c7d9a9ad6549adb55b2373b9cf5aaf.jpg
wiring relay, yes it is that simple.

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here i started wiring up the relay. the spade in the factory harness is low beam. the one to the left is the high beam.

http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/31/l_f8e6ef3c2504486ba39a396078640822.jpg
this was the first attempt at placement and relised i needed to push the light closed to the front.

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/11/l_27673b9c723240f2ae769e98223570a7.jpg
after a few slight adjustments. this was the out come.

sorry for the crappy cell pics. but im still doing a lot to the car right now.
in the next month of so i will post up more pics of everything i have done.

~skott b

[HyperTek]

A for effort
F for selection of lighting

you should find out how to mod the headlight retracts so you can flip em on and have them set at that height.

[Jus Skott]

you should find out how to mod the headlight retracts so you can flip em on and have them set at that height.

:p thanks.
i all ready have. I'm just getting other things done right now so it isnt a huge thing on my list. its just a matter of measurement and chopping and welding. since the bolt is threaded in different directions.

[azndoc]

nice

good job.

[.jrmyrmx]

good job! im about do to this, now i have something to base it off of.

i was just researching lights to use for this, can anyone recommend any? the PIAA tribeams are really expensive, but seem like the only ones with high/low beams.

[Jus Skott]

good job! im about do to this, now i have something to base it off of.

i was just researching lights to use for this, can anyone recommend any? the PIAA tribeams are really expensive, but seem like the only ones with high/low beams.


heres my suggestion. both of the lights you see in my pics are 55w h3 bulbs. I have all ready ordered some 100w h3 8000k texon xenon bulbs to use for the high beams. that was i have a noticeable difference between high and low beams.
http://www.bzsol.net/Listing-img/HLG-BW.jpg

:2c: jrmyrmx, i dont know how i feel about the tri beam. looks like you can either use it for two high beams, or high beam low beam and a super bright city light, or even like on the S13 Silvia triple beams. fogs high and low. which is a questionable look for me. But the only thing i can see as bad from using them is ya dont have full adjustment of each bulb. :ugh:

http://cache.autoanything.com/images/products/med/lights/piaa_p3000_tri_beam.jpg
..........^high... ^city...... ^low

either way install would be the same. either 2, 4 or 6 relays to be used. depending on how you want to do it. I could have used 2 relays but i chose 4 incase one goes bad i dont loose a either high or low or both.

FYI this was uber low budget. metal used was scrap. had sip ties, spade, butt connectors, heat shrink and eye thingy's. one set of sae driving lights where given to me. the oterh set of dot approved lights i bought from work "autozone" for a penny. (discontinued) wire was scrap from other projects. Oh the relays. yeah i stole em from the yunkjard. :hahano:

:trogdor:kott b

[Jus Skott]

nice

good job.

thanks :snoop: yo!

[.jrmyrmx]

damn that really is a low budget project, good hunting for parts. thanks for the info, ill wait and maybe i might come across a deal on some tribeams or decided to actually spend money on this project and get the lights below.

if you ever want to pay a bit more for lights i found some really badass ones, $100 a piece. theyre 50mm Hella headlamps meant for custom projects, come in low beam and high beam projectors. they also come in HID versions but you dont want to know the price for that..

http://www.focuztech.com/xcart/images/cache/e8685240ad5163c8ca774e23c7d09b9a.jpg

[Phill]

Nice little mod for budget people who cant afford custom shit. I'm sure there will be people who can one up you and make little mods to your idea and make it better.

[MrFairlady]

I was looking at doing something like this.Only way I'd do it is if I could make a Surround (metal or Plastic) AROUND the lights (like factory) just so it didn't look shitty.

Seems you can probably set & Keep the height at 1 level by making a Bolt LONGER that has the Rubber Stopper on it behind the headlight Cage.that way when they do pop up they'll go to 1 level that was set

Subscribing.

[Jus Skott]

Nice little mod for budget people who cant afford custom shit. I'm sure there will be people who can one up you and make little mods to your idea and make it better.

Man that will always be the case. :bow:

I was looking at doing something like this.Only way I'd do it is if I could make a Surround (metal or Plastic) AROUND the lights (like factory) just so it didn't look shitty.

Seems you can probably set & Keep the height at 1 level by making a Bolt LONGER that has the Rubber Stopper on it behind the headlight Cage.that way when they do pop up they'll go to 1 level that was set

Subscribing.

believe it or not. if ya look from the front you dont notice teh lights are hung. mostly cause the cage is sitting so low. as for the side i took the stock plastic covering and cut straight down the lines and bolted em on after a little sanding. next day i have off and can get in the garage. I'll snap a few more pics for ya. :coold:

ok ya have the right idea but wrong concept. when it comes to having the flip ups work. you want to short the bar on the side. this will allow the head lights to only go to one position. cause if ya use a rubber bumper. it will either hit it and shut. or burn the motor up cause it still wants to go up. I've playeda little w/ this already. fealt it was a huge concern right now. as i am just a few warm days away from taking my car for a test ride. :l101:

damn that really is a low budget project, good hunting for parts. thanks for the info, ill wait and maybe i might come across a deal on some tribeams or decided to actually spend money on this project and get the lights below.

if you ever want to pay a bit more for lights i found some really badass ones, $100 a piece. theyre 50mm Hella headlamps meant for custom projects, come in low beam and high beam projectors. they also come in HID versions but you dont want to know the price for that..

http://www.focuztech.com/xcart/images/cache/e8685240ad5163c8ca774e23c7d09b9a.jpg


I was looking at these again.

http://www.autozone.com/images/products/pil/pilpl-720b003.jpg

which are availabe online or in some auto parts store's. cost is 40.00 w/ out discounts. :naughty: Also which are stupid bright. "use to own them before" theirs also enough room for HID's in them. which ya can find a decent HID on Ebay for cheap. I know these pretty well cause we put em in my boys civic.

eBay Motors: HID Conversion Kit H1 H3 H4 H7 H11 9004 9006 9007 3000k (item 300277269112 end time Feb-27-09 17:08:06 PST) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HID-Conversion-Kit-H1-H3-H4-H7-H11-9004-9006-9007-3000k_W0QQitemZ300277269112QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMoto rs_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3002772691 12&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 )

Im not looking into doing HID's at the moment untill i can get some sort of alt upgrade. between 3 sets of driving lights, electric fans, full msd, innovate wide band, glow shift gauges and a small system. Im kinda pushing it all ready. you now.
~skott b

[Jus Skott]

while i was in the hosp the other day i was thinking. HID's on top of everything that I all ready have might actually be a bad idea. SO I'm just gonna stick w/ the xenon bulbs.
~skott

[drifter_for_life06]

looks like a good idea you got there...could have used better lights, but seems good none the less.....get some pics in the dark with lights on

[Jus Skott]

looks like a good idea you got there...could have used better lights, but seems good none the less.....get some pics in the dark with lights on


will do as soon as i get a chance to get out in the garage.

[hotlavaflow]

Here's mine with 3000k HID's and 8000k HID's and I have 3000k HID's in the CTRL's. THe CTRL's are on their own switch. The 3000K's come on with the parking lights and the 8000k's come on as the headlights. Don't really need hi-beams with three sets of HID's lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/hotlavaflow/IMG00227.jpg

[Jus Skott]

Here's mine with 3000k HID's and 8000k HID's and I have 3000k HID's in the CTRL's. THe CTRL's are on their own switch. The 3000K's come on with the parking lights and the 8000k's come on as the headlights. Don't really need hi-beams with three sets of HID's lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/hotlavaflow/IMG00227.jpg

pretty cool. :loco: do an alt upgrade for all that insane light age? :loco:

[hotlavaflow]

I was thinking of doing the Quest alternator since I just had my motor out but the stock alt is working just fine no problems at all.

By the way I have 3 sets of HID lights, 2 electric fans, full msd, Prosport gauges (5), turbo timer, S-AFC2, a small system (2 amps, 2 6.5", 2 6x9" and 8" sub) and a CB radio and no problems with the stock alt. This is all on a Miata battery.

[Jus Skott]

I was thinking of doing the Quest alternator since I just had my motor out but the stock alt is working just fine no problems at all.

By the way I have 3 sets of HID lights, 2 electric fans, full msd, Prosport gauges (5), turbo timer, S-AFC2, a small system (2 amps, 2 6.5", 2 6x9" and 8" sub) and a CB radio and no problems with the stock alt. This is all on a Miata battery.

damn homie thats still a beast electrical pull. I'm willing t bet if you dyno'd the car before and after doing a quet alt you would see a few number differances. nothing drastic. also please define a small system. lol to me a small system is right around the 1000 watt area "600 mids and highs 400 for bass a fared cap"

[The Chad]

Are you in Richmond VA? I'd like to see this sometime.
-700 and counting-

[Jus Skott]

Are you in Richmond VA? I'd like to see this sometime.
-700 and counting-

haha yeah I'm in Ole Dirty. If ya wanna swing thru hit me up at night. I'm off Williamsburg near laburnum.
~skott 804.334.5568

[98whitemax]

looking good

[Tom25666]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/chickenheadFoSho/240lights005.jpg

here's mine, done with an ebay kit. mount the lights to the black plastic trim piece, plug the wires into the oem socket, remove motor relay, crank down and enjoy

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/chickenheadFoSho/180sx_full.jpg

[Jus Skott]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/chickenheadFoSho/240lights005.jpg

here's mine, done with an ebay kit. mount the lights to the black plastic trim piece, plug the wires into the oem socket, remove motor relay, crank down and enjoy

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj66/chickenheadFoSho/180sx_full.jpg
haha I remember when my car was that color. think it lasted that color all of three days before i rattle canned it.

not to be rude but IMHO it looks like both those lights came from autozone, isle 5, right hand side, on the bottom row of the section. 40.00 for each pair. just wondering how much e-bay stuck you for them? BTW the city might int eh one def gets cool points. lol i was thinking about drilling a small hole in one of mine so i gcould have a city light too. :rofl: I'm still not sure if it would be too much. Considering the thought that Im thinking about getting rice and adding some strob lights "just ordered" up in there. like my black ass needs to draw more attention to anti traffic law having ass. :loco:

~skott

[projectRDM]

Hideous wiring job. B for idea, F for execution.

[The Chad]

Jeez Russ not everyone is a genius with cars like yourself lol :)

[kalypso123]

nice effort, but its looks wak

[Jus Skott]

rotflol if it looks like weak sauce then show me up. but heres the catch. you can only have a penny into it. think i joke. well.

oval driving light...............free roomie hooked me up
rectangle driving light........on clearance at work .01
4 30a relay w/ sockets......free from junk yard.
metal welded to cage........free scrape metal from boys shop
wire used........................free wire was scrap from a job sight
wire conectors.................lol you know ef'n free.

[The Chad]

Richmonders are some cheap bastards...lol. I feel ya though bud. I just never had the heart to do any cheap-o mods to my S14, I left that with my 1st car...Hyundai Excell. The car never ran longer than a week at a time (with 1 month broken time between weeks). SO i had plenty of time to try different little ghetto-fab ideas. Finally...after the 2nd engine fire...i sold it to my neighbor as a parts car for $200 :)

[projectRDM]

rotflol if it looks like weak sauce then show me up. but heres the catch. you can only have a penny into it. think i joke. well.

I don't have an S13, sorry. If I did though, I could one up you easily. I'd at least use an OEM Nissan relay, make all the wiring look OE, and not use jank ass butt connectors that are one size too big for the wire. Everything I do to my car, and all my work period, is done to look completely OE and integrate into the car just as Nissan would have done it. You choose the route of 'throw a rat's nest at it because it's cheap and quick'. It's cool, you have your way, I have mine. Yours will quit working one day from a broken wire or just catch on fire and burn to the ground, mine won't.

Free doesn't have to mean shitty.

[Jus Skott]

I don't have an S13, sorry. If I did though, I could one up you easily. I'd at least use an OEM Nissan relay, make all the wiring look OE, and not use jank ass butt connectors that are one size too big for the wire. Everything I do to my car, and all my work period, is done to look completely OE and integrate into the car just as Nissan would have done it. You choose the route of 'throw a rat's nest at it because it's cheap and quick'. It's cool, you have your way, I have mine. Yours will quit working one day from a broken wire or just catch on fire and burn to the ground, mine won't.

Free doesn't have to mean shitty.

lawlz are you serious? my shits gonna stop working and catch fire cause it does look pretty or *cough* OEM. :hahano: Son, I'm trying my best to not tell you to go ef yourself but your kinda make it hard not to do so. Further more the car is satin black and rolls on steelies or se's. Do you actually think for one moment im tring to have the cleanest car around? Some thing that Im more than likely gonna destroy because i actualy beat on my car, slide it around pretty much everythng in sight. I do have plans for a clean car just not this one. this one get whored the hell out and to be honest i likes the whores. lol

The Chad, def not richmond whores. i aint down w/ the dude looks likes lady having a hang down.

[kalypso123]

rotflol if it looks like weak sauce then show me up. but heres the catch. you can only have a penny into it. think i joke. well.

to each his own. doesn't matter how much it cost you.

[projectRDM]

lawlz are you serious? my shits gonna stop working and catch fire cause it does look pretty or *cough* OEM. :hahano: Son, I'm trying my best to not tell you to go ef yourself but your kinda make it hard not to do so. Further more the car is satin black and rolls on steelies or se's. Do you actually think for one moment im tring to have the cleanest car around? Some thing that Im more than likely gonna destroy because i actualy beat on my car, slide it around pretty much everythng in sight. I do have plans for a clean car just not this one. this one get whored the hell out and to be honest i likes the whores. lol

The Chad, def not richmond whores. i aint down w/ the dude looks likes lady having a hang down.

Tell me to fuck off, it's cool. And I know calling me son was a figure of speech kiddo, but if you were my father I'd have eaten the gun a long time ago out of embarrassment.
I beat on my car too, grip and autocross racing. That doesn't mean I can't take pride in it actually looking better than a 20 yr old jalopy. When you cheap out and make your car and your work look like shit, you look like shit. Simple. Kids like you amaze me, you have the mentality that being cheap is being cool and cutting corners is the only way to do it. If your plans are to just ruin the car from your failed attempts at driving, why even bother with new lights and shit? Why not take the lights off completely, you don't need them to be a fanboy drifter.

[The Chad]

Skott: Just stop yourself there lol. Project RDM is a well respected Dinasaur around here and he knows his stuff. Just take the advise and walk :)

[Jus Skott]

:blah: Tell me to fuck off, it's cool. And I know calling me son was a figure of speech kiddo, but if you were my father I'd have eaten the gun a long time ago out of embarrassment.
I beat on my car too, grip and autocross racing. That doesn't mean I can't take pride in it actually looking better than a 20 yr old jalopy. When you cheap out and make your car and your work look like shit, you look like shit. Simple. Kids like you amaze me, you have the mentality that being cheap is being cool and cutting corners is the only way to do it. If your plans are to just ruin the car from your failed attempts at driving, why even bother with new lights and shit? Why not take the lights off completely, you don't need them to be a fanboy drifter.

Wow nice come back DICK! Just wonder how often do you disconnect the ether net cable from your ass? I mean from the looks of it. You do spend an aweful amount of time whoring it up. which makes believe you are either wasting your employers time and money *great job there dick* (or) you the new 34 year old virgin.
either or i aint mad at ya homie i just think you come off as a complete tool.
just a few examples why i came to that conclusion.

:blah: Fuck. Have you ever read anything on this forum? Or your owner's manual even?

:blah: Wow. Welcome to reading. No one talked about that already in this thread. Not a soul. Seriously.

:blah: I'll be nice. I shouldn't, but I will just this once.

:blah: No. No one has ever done that. Ever.

:blah: No, fuck you. Complaining that the search function doesn't work for you is lazy. There's also google, ask.com, clusty, and a shit ton of other search engines. Your question assumes that no one else...

Skott: Just stop yourself there lol. Project RDM is a well respected Dinasaur around here and he knows his stuff. Just take the advise and walk :)

lmao, you know from the looks of it. You might be right.

[projectRDM]

:blah:

Wow nice come back DICK! Just wonder how often do you disconnect the ether net cable from your ass? I mean from the looks of it. You do spend an aweful amount of time whoring it up. which makes believe you are either wasting your employers time and money *great job there dick* (or) you the new 34 year old virgin.
either or i aint mad at ya homie i just think you come off as a complete tool.
just a few examples why i came to that conclusion.




I run my own business. From home. Online. Plenty of time to talk shit to punks like you in between emails.
Funny thing, I gave my opinion on your wiring skills. Nothing more. You're the one who got butthurt about it. Sorry if you fail at life, don't blame it on me though.

[The Chad]

In a fight: i got my money on Project RDM...Dirty ATL baby! :)

[Jus Skott]

I run my own business. From home. Online. Plenty of time to talk shit to punks like you in between emails.
Funny thing, I gave my opinion on your wiring skills. Nothing more. You're the one who got butthurt about it. Sorry if you fail at life, don't blame it on me though.


just drop the intra web hard ass routine, its getting old. You know nothing about me or what skills i have. this thread was just a quick how to for a budget conversion. Where as im sure you understand function > form. If not then go back to your mom and ask her why she didnt abort and or swallow.


back to fvck!ng topic.

[ThatGuy]

Function over form can definitely be a good concept, but not when it's used as an excuse to do poor work.

Oh well, what can you expect from "Janky Crew". Represent!

:duh:

When it comes down to it, it's your car. If you enjoy it, so be it.

However, if you can't handle the negative comments along with the positive ones, then keep your work out of the public's view.

[ThatGuy]

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