So what did you think of Drift showoff?

[NiteKids]

For the most part it was a pretty entertaining show. I didn't buy tickets in advance and I got there at 10 and waited in line untill 12:15. The acual drift part was pretty cool excpect when it was just the regular people mosts of the drifts were not very impressive. (But then again I can not do better or even do as well.) The drivers behind Richard(JDM RICE) and sams(Jspec) cars were really good. Also Alex From Battle Version is nuts and really knows how to drive.

I didn't understand why there was a lame ass accord there not to mention the lame ass BMW and lame ass Porshe.

Of course the highlight is aways when the Japanese Drivers came out. I liked how Kogachi I think it was, was pulling in on the track but before he got in he did this HUGE ass freakin burnout in the crowd and everyone was cheering him on. Of course I'm sure if anyone else did it they could not have gotten away with it.

Car show was nice minus the european part with the gay ass vws and gay audis. If you didn't notice I'm not a fan of european cars. That just MY opinion and you don't have to agree with me.

[NiteKids]

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[NiteKids]

Originally posted by NiteKids
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[NiteKids]

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[Kid Zelda]

Originally posted by NiteKids
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OMG, that guy almost hit the light pole ....

He got an F-

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by NiteKids
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[Jsquared]

those "gay Porsches" and "gay Audis" have the potential to lay some serious smack down on an SR-powered 240SX... KA-powered would be a brutal beating. you may not like them but they still deserve respect.

[NiteKids]

I sure didn't see any vw, audis or bmw's there laying any smack down. Hmmmm

[Kid Zelda]

Nitekids, your took pic's from inside the event ?

Wot happened ? No back stage pass ? :D

[Jsquared]

how many Porsches, BMWs, 1.8T Audis, etc were actually allowed to run? :rolleyes:

[NiteKids]

I never really took much pictures there? What's this socalled back stage pass? Didn't seem to be anywhere they didn't let you go to firm or take pics.

I remember on the way in they said NO VIDEO Cameras but inside everyone had a video camera filming?

[Brian]

i thought it was great! i thought i saw an accord out there!:confused: Koguchi is so so so talented in his car. it was kinda nuts when Komatsu and the other signal driver(i am not sure of his name) hit the wall. everyone was like stunned or astonished or something. the chaser hit the wall also and messed up a lot of stuff on the car. i went home with the signal 180sx's bumper that broke off and i got it signed by Koguchi. most everyone was doing very good especially whoever was driving Sam's s13. i didnt really check out the show portion of the day. anybody see the kid who took home the exhaust from the signal 180sx? that was pretty funny. then again i bet it was funny for people to see me walking away with a bumper! goodtimes. i look forward to the next event.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by NiteKids
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isnt that Non Fujita's car?

Any more pics?

[Brian]

yeah it's non's car

[NiteKids]

It's all about the "Open Door Drift Technique"

[NiteKids]

I also wondered if that show made non 240 guys suddenly want 240's and Jump on the bandwagon.

[Brian]

hahah. open door was very fun.

[NiteKids]

Since this was a mainstream production there were many attendees that knew nothing about the whole situation.

I over heard a little kid:
"Wow dad they are so slipery!"

and then a wife to her husband:

"Honey why are they wasting there tires like that?"

[Brian]

i heard some cool guy tell his friends that the "bimmer"(which was really the chaser) was so tyte when it was drifting.

[NiteKids]

Yeah One big reason I wasn't planing to go in the first place. Didn't care to here mainstream americas ignorance. But of course I'm don't know everything or even close to it.

Also Aaron I know your reading this post...by the way Good job on the track!

[onebadm5]

Stealing images isn't nice. Stealing is BAD.
Were you even AT the drift event, or did you just pretend again?

[rancid240]

lots o fun...as the typical internet drifter i arrived 4 hours late and alone...didnt recognize anyone from zilvia (basically either adey or coolerow) but all in all it was a good day except it got pretty damned cold....the most awesome thing i think was the 3 way burnout when they were going in circles...oh and also the fact that the drifting sessions were like 90% 240s...

[adey]

d00d, I don't know why anyone would waste film on the show car portion of the event... the drifting was abso-****ing-lutely amazing.

The E46 sedan (there was also an E46 'vert, and an E46 BMW M3 SMG on the "beginner" course) couldn't drift for crap. Actually, none of the BMWs were doing well at all -- except possibly the M Coupe (sexxxxyyyy) which did significantly better than any other European car on the track.
There was no (AFAIK) limit to the # of "DTM" cars that were allowed to participate; you "DTM" folk just aren't "real drivers"! All carpet queens! :D :o (note the sarcasm.)
Trust me when I say that NO AUDI OR VW could come close to any of the cars out in advanced... less maybe that bone stock accord. I own a GTi and frankly, it suxorz compared to my 240. ;)

Koguchi was easily the best of the 4 "pro" drifters out there, showing his skill by "almost hitting a lamp post" (which I honestly don't think he was close to hitting-- he also purposely came within 2 inches of a cone on our side of the track when he saw us jumping, screaming and waving at him as he drove by) ... he really knows how to please the crowd, not to mention control his car...

edit: rancid, you should have called me!... oh wait, do you have my #? Anyway I was there, driving in the "beginner" section (faaaar end of the course, you really couldn't see much of it from the spectator stands) learning heaploads of stuff. Mike (MrMigs) was also there, as were Dousan and DriftingPanda... Kanakez and Dorifto180sx, itsybitsy240sx (errrr I forgot the handle; sorry!) and a few others. :)

All in all, a super, SUPER day. $40 well spent!

[adey]

Originally posted by onebadm5
Euro guys aren't really into drifting; they admire from a far, but you'll see them at DE's and auto-x's before coming to a drift event... It doesn't help that many/most euro parts cost about a dozen times more than japanese parts. :( While I'm (we're) here complaining about the prices of bumpers and stuff, I feel sorry for any BMW driver who dents his fender.


EDIT: I have to extend sincere thanks to all the flag marshalls/workers/staff/instructors who helped out on the (beginner) courses. Those guys were absolutely great!! Kenji (from Gspeed) and two other friendly Japanese guys (whose names I unfortunately do not know) were kind enough to give me some (VERY HELPFUL!!!!!!) pointers on the entry, execution and maintainance of my power slides. You guys are great! Thanks for helping us out, and for being a part of these events!

[MikeFD3S]

How can you guys be capping on their driving skill? At least they were out there participating?!

I thought it was great to see 'non typical' RWD cars giving it their all on the track. That Accord may have been understeer king, but he really was giving it his all. It was great seeing the convertible 3 series out there (female driver, who could probably out drive a lot of you) the supercharged M Roadster, and the 944 Porsche. Sure they were having some understeer issues...but the same could be said about big wig drivers such as Non Fujita, Benson, the bronze Corolla coupe? What gives?

Organization could have been better, especially as far as crowd control goes. I was with the Signal crew and people were all over the place-- equipment and whatnot. A lot of parts could have been damaged or stolen.

I heard some lame comments here and there, but overall the atmosphere was great with a very promising showing. It was nice seeing a lot of familiar faces, and a wide variety drivers willing to learn.

Koguchi definitely stole the show from Signal, but Komatsu and Bai were kicking some major ass in the later runs once they got used to the cars. Best part was when they were doing donuts around Shelby, one of the 4ag peeps helping with cone patrol. LOL awesome.

The Japanese drivers are on a completely different level of drifting from the American drivers...and to think that the Japanese drivers (perhaps excluding Koguchi) are only average in Japan.


Adey! I knew that car was yours! LOL it looked fermiliar. What was up with your rally setup? Full Under represent!

I think I got a sunburn today..and maybe a little heatstroke from wearing the heavy Signal jacket all day

[rancid240]

Hey who was that guy with the lancer tearing up the track? I assume he was a special guest, because he didnt advance to finals even though he was damn good. was that a evo 7 w/ an evo 8 front (sorry if i cornfused the numbers)

[drift freaq]

well, there were a lot of socal240sx boys there. I also ran into T.Y. there he brought his car . He even talked to me about getting a S13 with a SR to specifically setup for drifting.:D ;)
Cartune saved the day twice. Once for Signal Auto by providing them with a throttle body for the Sil 1580 after they broke one early on, and again when our mechanic(Simon) helped Benson (Sil eighty Mania) fix his broken TC rod bracket subframe, a two hour job! At which point Benson went on to win . Yes!!!!:cool: :D
I am glad we were able to be of asistance to these guys. You will see Cartune shop cars at coming events. Seeing as there are a couple in the works as I speak.
It was a exciting day and a lot better than some of the previous events . I was surprised by the turnout. It looks like drifting is going to blow up big time now and frankly I think its cool. So whoever puts down drifting you are missing out IMHO. Also I will state that before this event, I thought thas was gonna be the ricing of drifting . Actually it was more like this was educating the American kids about drifting and not from a Initial D point of view but a reality. In that sense it was very successful it showed the skill and talent these drivers are capable of.
I came away from the event feeling very good about the whole thing.

Cartune your SR shop.

[nismo_sr20_wut]

Very nice show, i loved the drifting, it was gay that they didnt let you in with video cameras but that didnt stop me from getting the evo vii, s15, s13's and the chaser on film, i just stood out where teh line was to film, so i have it all on tape, and i got to go into the show, it was pretty bad ass having falkens s13 sliding right next to the guard rail 2 feet from your knees then 2 secs later be across the track, pretty damn quick cars. I enjoyed the show.

[drift freaq]

Hey who was that guy with the lancer tearing up the track?

that was Rhys Millen, Pro Rally driver and winner of Pikes Peak on more than one occasion. He is Pro Rally world champion Rod Millen's son.
He was on a whole different level . Much like the Japanese drivers being on a whole different level.

[adey]

Mike, you saw me but didn't say hi!?!? Bastard! :D I was having a f-ing good time with my new LSD, it is almost pointless to try drifting without one... seriously. Open diff vs. LSD is absolutely no contest! I heard you were there though from Mike (mrmigs) whom I saw briefly during the lunch hour. I had to get back to pits though to prepare for the afternoon sessions. :)
BTW where/when did you see my car?

And to others: post vids (or PM me with vid URLs if you don't think it's "safe") ... I am not quite as interested in the pro vids as any "beginner/intermediate" footage that you may have gotten.
Esp. of a certain POS boro-to-heck S13 hatch. :p


As for the atmosphere being good... no way. The atmosphere in the pits was good, but the atmosphere outside was just terrible. A lot of the import showoff staff had serious attitude problems, and the 'show' scene is just full of gangsta wannabes and stunnaz. Bling bling JDM DTM sheeat, yo! It just doesn't shizzle my nizzle, and I don't feel that this event has (necessarily) had a positive impact on drifting in the US.
While exposure can be good, I get the feeling that tonight and from now on, there will be many more poser don't-have-a-****ing-clue-what-they're-doing drifters around, ruining our currently 'acceptable' image (I hope...) and cluttering our canyons with rice cars and popos. (not that there aren't enough already).

To the drivers who were there today (i.e. those who drove) -- GOOD JOB!! I'm glad to see the scene getting bigger, and more people getting better. Seriously, the skill level between todays drivers and DD4 drivers was quite remarkable! It seems that we've all improved! Keep up the good/safe driving.

[drift freaq]

Hey who was that guy with the lancer tearing up the track?

that was Rhys Millen, Pro Rally driver and winner of Pikes Peak on more than one occasion. He is Pro Rally world champion Rod Millen's son.
He was on a whole different level . Much like the Japanese drivers being on a whole different level.

[Equinox]

The event was fantastic. My first event in the 240. BIG change from an MR2 turbo. :) All I have to say is: LSD RULES!

Nice meeting all of you: Aaron, Janet, Chris, Danny, Mike.

Here's a couple of videos of my morning runs

Video 1 (http://equinox.webisaur.com/gallery/videos/first_240.wmv)

Video 2 (http://equinox.webisaur.com/gallery/videos/showboat.wmv)

They are each about 1MB.

[MikeFD3S]

lol yeah I was in the Signal pit pretty much the whole time. I think I saw your car on the advanced course? a little raised looking? kinda funky rims?

You're probably right about the atmosphere...I got there at 7:00am and looked at the show cars while things were being setup...never ventured outside of the pit area after ~9:30

I was kind of fearing that everyones going to attempt drifts out of the parking lot but it didnt happen (i dont think) I did notice some cars driving a bit crazy when I was cruising around my house today :rolleyes:

One thing thats definitely going to happen- prices on 240's are going to go up after today. The 240's had a very good showing. Once I get one of my 7's running i'm going to have to represent for the rotary...we had a very weak showing today.


As far as the no cameras being allowed, that is due to legally binding agreements by Ken Miyoshi/Mainstream productions, and Grip Video, who has exclusive rights to videotape and sell video coverage of the event.

[DRO916]

are u serious they didnt let u guys in with video cameras??? damn! that sucks...i would have at least tried to sneak a slim video camera in...

can anyone post whatever video they have somewhere for us to see??

i really wished i went to this event...i was going to go, but last minute i decided not to due to an important school day on monday. (we would've stayed from friday night to monday morning in Irvine)


:( :( :( :(

[adey]

I wasn't on advanced course at all today... I was only signed up for beginner... so that probably wasn't me. I was (am) the red chuki hatch with black bumper/hood and blue driver fender (and mismatched red pass. fender)... I had 15" gold mesh rear and 16" silver mesh (high offset) in the front.
It's not raised, but my rear has about a 2 finger fender-wheel gap so as to clear the unusually steep incline that comes out of my apartment parking lot.

7s were definitely under-represented; there were what, 3 FDs driving and 2 FCs driving!? That's waaaay too few. There should be a lot more FCs... well, actually if we got more TIIs here in the US, there might be more out there. :rolleyes: :o

Speaking of the video... wasn't it being shot by "On The Scene"? Did Grip Video change their name to OTS, or what?
Speaking of that, I forgot to take the OTS decal (which was stuck to duct tape) off my rear license plate (to cover it from sneaky filmers and stuff) after I left the track... not a good idea with the amount of cops that were present. Luckily,no one stopped me.

As for future of drifting in the US... if those silly posing car show boys get into the trend (drifting-- which IS the new rice, mind you) and start doing stupid stuff in the streets, I can see it going nowhere but downhill (or off a cliff, if you want to use analogies to touge). I don't know. Hopefully the HUGE turnout will spur on more (and more frequent) events like this, which will take any silly street driphtorz off the parking lots and onto the tracks.
Speaking of drifting, have you taken a shot at it yet, Mike? (I mean a real shot, like on a track -- not just donuts in a parking lot type stuff)

[MikeFD3S]

I think Grip Video was last event and OTS this event? or joint? not sure...

im definitely going to take my licks on the track...in the.......da da dada... 1987 FC3S SE! The suspension and overall car is surprisingly in better condition than the FD. The FD has seen one too many ******* and is recuperating (aka saving up to replace broken parts)

Im gonna participate in the next event with a couple of my friends at Signal (red FD3S still being built, and white FC3S Turbo II that someone else drove during last event) i'm really looking forward to it now that i have a car that is track safe. I just need to get some toe-out eliminators and some decent rubber.

[adey]

toe out ELIMINATORS...? How much toe out do you have? I generally ask for 1/8" (or 0deg.) toe out, as it gives a faster, more precise turn-in... sure, it doesn't feel quite as stable on the freeway, but that's not where it's important to me. :)

What event do you plan to run the car at? DD5? Or are there any other drift events between now and then?

[s14brent]

hey i went to the drift comp. it was pretty nice. side-by-side (door open) burnouts, and the day before i was at the signal shop. everyone i met in cali was pretty damn nice. not many stuck up newbs like in vegas. felt bad for the beige accord..everyoone there like pointed and laughed at him....komatsu is a mad pimp...same with kouske the mad kida... loved everything there but the 50 different songs playing at once, then the same beat playing for 20+ min while they did the exhibition run got annoying. $1.50 for can soda....damn cali is expensive =D

[NiteKids]

I'm sorry to say but I'm one of the one (of many I'm sure) that pointed and laughed at the accord.

First off. It's a HONDA accord. It's was completly in the wrong event. It was DRIFT showoff not SCCA grip racing. And also it's a freakin accord and practically if not bone stock. But I gotta give him props for even going out and racing but unfortently giving himself much shame in this event.

[fogleroller]

Originally posted by Equinox
The event was fantastic. My first event in the 240. BIG change from an MR2 turbo. :) All I have to say is: LSD RULES!

Nice meeting all of you: Aaron, Janet, Chris, Danny, Mike.

Here's a couple of videos of my morning runs

Video 1 (http://equinox.webisaur.com/gallery/videos/first_240.wmv)

Video 2 (http://equinox.webisaur.com/gallery/videos/showboat.wmv)

They are each about 1MB.

AHEM....AHEM......credit please....

Nice meeting you, Chris (SD), Adey (sorry I didnt' get your name), Lindsey (dorifto180sx), Nadine, Staff worker that helped Steve get me into the pits, & more (cant remember everyone).

Good to see you again: Janet & Danny, Mike (told you I'd get you in), Alex (chang), Mike (FC3S from DAve Turner), Oh yeah, and you too Steve.

[pruto]

My thoughts on the event, the drift part was awesome, everyone did a nice job, it was nice to see some european cars try to drift, my only beef was with the accord, he was trying, but its just not possible for that car to drift. E-brake ass sliding isn't drifting.

I hated the organization of the event, and the fact that it was in conjunction with a stupid car show. There was so much rice there it wasn't even funny. It blows that i couldn't go into the pit area to say hi to my friends, not even the beginners, totally different situation than SpeedTrials track events and club4ag DD events. I would hope for the good of this "sport" that they distance themselves from the rice crowd in terms of organization, yeah, it brings people and money, but geez, how much of that is unwanted attention?

I guess it does well to educate on what is and what isn't drifting.

Accord gripping on steelies and stock suspention: NOT drifting
skill + knowledge + correct car setup (a handful of US drivers and the japanese dudes): drifting

oh, so i take it Benson won? good for him, i couldn't stay long enough to watch the finals (my ride home wanted to jam).

[Equinox]

Originally posted by fogleroller
AHEM....AHEM......credit please....

hehe oops..Big thanks to fogleroller for filming :)

[fogleroller]

Originally posted by pruto
I hated the organization of the event, and the fact that it was in conjunction with a stupid car show.

DITTO!!!

Very Very Highly UNORGANIZED. Hopefully they learn from that event and the next one will be better!!! I am looking forward to entering whether it be my S13 or SW20-T

Originally posted by Equinox
hehe oops..Big thanks to fogleroller for filming :)

Those were some great displays of drifting Steve, but, why didn't you show all of them???? LOL!!!!

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by pruto
It blows that i couldn't go into the pit area to say hi to my friends, not even the beginners, totally different situation than SpeedTrials track events and club4ag DD events.


im glad they didnt let anyone into the pits. last thing i want to see is someones expensive wheels get stolen or little knicknacks taken by some punk
people were taking the falken signs and ripping the endless banners off the wall. trying to do it all secret like. example one guy pulled it up and walked 4 steps away like he did nothing, came back and pulled therest off. then some kid came up to me and dorifto (guy had to be like 20ish) and said "you guys going to take that falken flag?"
dorifto and i say
'f*ck no, we arent goddamn thieves"
as he walked away with his tail between his legs i yelled "PUSSY!"

hahaha

its people like THAT GUY is why they didnt allow people in the pits. and i'm 100% for that.

the evnet was fun, yes the organization was pretty bad though, no doubt. but still had a good time. the courses were fun and i still need to get into 3rd gear drifts. anywyas. i need my new LSD too. blah. current one SUCKS. damn mechanical!!!!:(
anyways. that's all.

[andrave]

the millens are to racing what the bushes are to the presidency, only they are a whole lot better. Steve and Rod and Rhys are all cars guys to the bone, the Rhys is one hell of a hot shoe driver.
I wish we had more drift **** on the east coast.
:-(
maybe after this year when I get my ca18det swap and an LSD I can practice in the back of the giant eagle parking lot at night and come out for one of those drift days sometime.

[fogleroller]

I and Steve "Equinox" were thinking that he was a VIP guest or something. He started out in the Beginner/Novice section and then was over in the Expert section later in the day.

I was blown away when I saw him drive!!!

[MikeFD3S]

I loved how the evo viii sounded! Also the Chaser sounded really mean too...i love seeing the big RWD cars drift. Perhaps next event they'll be able to bring the red Soarer out. :drool:

After work im gonna bid farewell with the Signal babies, they're going back to Japan on Tuesday with Mr. Kida and the Signal Japan crew. :sniffle:

drift_freaq, you work with CarTune? Awesome. I was wondering where the extra TB came from yesterday morning. The 180sx had a few problems but it made it through the day....specifically the broken TB and an overheating problem. That 180 gets beat on a lot.

Hows Hiro's car coming along? I remember him mentioning that it was over there

[Banshee]

Are these events purely imports drifting? Any domestics trying to show the imports up?:D (not likely huh...)

I just ask this cause stangs have light rear ends with LSD, seems like they would be good cars for it. Dunnno.:confused:

[Banshee]

BTW, Awsome driving Equinox!:cool:

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by Banshee
Are these events purely imports drifting? Any domestics trying to show the imports up?:D (not likely huh...)

I just ask this cause stangs have light rear ends with LSD, seems like they would be good cars for it. Dunnno.:confused:

so far, yes. it would be nice to see some other types of cars out there.

[MikeFD3S]

I'd love to see some crazy domestic RWD vehicles drifting like a Crown Victoria all J'd out or fox body mustangs (solid rear axle), camaros n the like. If it's RWD it can be drifted ;) If no one does, im gonna bring out old domestic RWD beaters like Pintos n Mavericks :D

[ny_jee]

Another great event(the drifting part...), props to all that helped made it possible(if any of them are on this forum...). Had a great deal of fun out there yesterday, and meeting the D1 drivers(Koguchi and Yamamoto) and being w/in 5ft of their burnout and drifting were f'ing fun. W/ that said, I personally thought the organization of advance practice runs were sloopy. However, being that drift competition is only at it's beginning stage, I am sure the next event will be better. Congrats to Benson for the win! And I have to agree w/ Dousan about the restriction in pit area, I wouldn't want to see someone walking away w/ Richard's new wheels... (b/c he was gonna let me borrow it, haha~)

[andrave]

There are some crazy guys in hawaii that drift camaros with great success, some are treated just like we treat 240's, with the aluminum wings and japanese sponsor decals. Gotta love it.
:-)

[kuroi s14]

Mike, I didn't get a chance to meet you at the event but there were quite a few soarers in the parking lots, and I saw atleast three with jz gte conversion. So hopefully that event will get JZZ30 community to participate. As for me, I was on spectator status. Still waiting for my l.s.d. . Thanks to Casp. for the V.I.P. treatment in the pits. If you didn't come up with a Falken banner thats your loss :) I got permission from the booth and got it autographed by all the D1 drivers. Kazuya was so suprised that I knew the Tinker drift club so he gave me a special Tinker club autograph. It looked like the begginers got a s**t load of practice.

[pruto]

Dousan, i know what you mean about the pit area thing, i know why they closed it off, its just not cool that the drivers/cars need such protection. At track days and autox's i can walk around with my trunk emptied into a parking spot half the parking lot away and not have to worry about anyone messing with my things. I guess it comes with the territory of a high profile event.

Hopefully tho, it won't be a problem i have to worry about anymore, less spectating, and more participating =)

[Dousan_PG]

yeah i agree, its sad that it comes to that. some 4ag guy says someone ripped off his option2 sticker offf the back of his hachi in the parking lot. people who do that ..**** me off

yeah speedtrials, 4ag events, no worries usually but you still have to watch out. best to part w/ friends and maybe have a buddy who keeps an eye out. but there was such a high profile large event, its not worth having people there, security had enough problems w/ people being where they shouldnt, having them in the pits is a nightmare. its good the epopel/drivesr in the pits were not dumbdumbs and respected the barriers and so forth

yes PARTICIPATE! April 6-RS*R event!

[NiteKids]

I liked the event alot but I could do without the mainstreamness of the event and also I didn't care much for the car show. Well half of it. But then again to bring the Signal and Falken guys from Japan must have cost alot of money including their cars.

[azian21485]

juss wondering..but how come u never/hardly see mr2's drifting

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by azian21485
juss wondering..but how come u never/hardly see mr2's drifting

you'll see more. its catching on the USA
you see a few here and there in magazines from japan and videos

usa has more diversity of cars and people interested in drifting. we'll hpefully get some domestics, Zs, mr2s, SCs, etc etc out there. USA has that sort of cool diversity of people trying it. look forward to it in the coming year!

[ruf]

Short wheelbase. Lower polar moment of inertia (MR). Harder to "catch".

[azian21485]

yea it is growing here..but like in all the vids i've seen and pics..all i really see are 240, rx-7, and is300 mostly...i think i've only seen one mr2...does it make it more difficult to drift a mid-engined car since theres more weight in back so u can't slide it out as easily...plus when u slide out the rear theres more momentum to oversteer and spin out?

[ny_jee]

In theory, you can drift anything on wheels. The reason that you haven't seen too many MR2's may be that the MR2 owners are just not into drifting. Not seeing them out there doesn't mean it's harder or not doable. Some ppl might want to argue that you can't really drift FF, but it's up to the person's defination of a drift. They do hold FF drift competitions in Japan...

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by ny_jee
They do hold FF drift competitions in Japan...


and they drift better them most US RWD drifters hahaha..its crazy how well it can be done depending on one key factor: Driver

[azian21485]

yea...there was a vid of a del sol drifting around a track..i gotta look for it

[pruto]

hehe, my nismo LSD should be here in 2 weeks or so, will be ready by the RS-R event =)

[Dousan_PG]

hey paul! cool deal
mine too.
nismo SSS


siiiick :D

[Equinox]

Originally posted by azian21485
yea it is growing here..but like in all the vids i've seen and pics..all i really see are 240, rx-7, and is300 mostly...i think i've only seen one mr2...does it make it more difficult to drift a mid-engined car since theres more weight in back so u can't slide it out as easily...plus when u slide out the rear theres more momentum to oversteer and spin out?

Hehe I tried at Club4AG's last event :) Here's a short video clip.

Video 1 (http://equinox.webisaur.com/gallery/videos/first_drift.wmv)

No LSD on that car unfortunately.. :(

[pruto]

Nismo SSS? is that super sweet sideways LSD? :D hehe, i dunno what Sam (jspec) is getting me, he only said 2 way, Nismo, LSD, for s14... good enough for me.

i'm kinda scared of the entire thing, in self doubt about being able to install/brake it in without braking something.

anyway, back to the topic of drift showoff, here are some pics:
bad camera angle, large photos...

Aaron in action (blurred for some reason...)
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0707.jpg
red FD drift
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0711.jpg
s14 drift (who is this?)
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0714.jpg
the crowd behind the wall Koguchi is gonna go nuts all over:
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0716.jpg
bomex race queens... mmm... yeah...
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0719.jpg
da MAN of the event: maaad skillz
http://www-scf.usc.edu/~paulli/DSCN0729.jpg

[Dousan_PG]

paul
DONT INSTALL IT YOURSELF
talk with sam, he'll tell you where to go. its not something you want to F up. i know you well. dont do it! i am not! haha..not worth destroying a pricey unit as such

[pruto]

no no, i'm not installing the sucker myself, all that gearing, clutches and shafts are waaay beyond me. I was originally thinking about just having the LSD installed professionally into the pumpkin, and putting the pumpkin back onto the car myself. But that's probably more pain than its worth, since i have to take the pumpkin off, find another car to transport that 100lb back and forth. I'm more worried about the break in part, its really hard for me to find a big enough parking lot do drive figure 8's in for 1/2 hour around where i live (both home and school). Don't worry, i usually listen to good advice... problem comes when i don't get enough info (or wrong info), hehe.

Oh, and you don't know me that well, only heard UGLY rumors about me from Danny :)

[Dousan_PG]

ive seen the rumors w/ my own eyes bro!! haha
dont woryr, next time we meet up ill let you know where to go. sam will tell you same place. they will do EVERYTHING for you!

[andrave]

whats the deal with people saying vlsd aren't "real?" hell they are what you can get, for the most part. helical ones are rare and incredibly expensive. and I've heard that the s15 ones are prone to crunching themselves.

[Dousan_PG]

you dont want helical for drifting too.

[pruto]

vlsds and hlsds are 1 way LSDs, meaning, no LSD effect on braking, only accel. Vlsds also take time for the effects to kick in (the delay due to the fluid solidifying). VLSDs are real LSDs, its just that other types of LSDs are much more instantaneous. Also, for drifting, its best to have a 2 way LSD (full LSD effect on both braking and acceleration).

Dousan: i know Sam knows a good place, i've actually called around different shops before so i have a good idea. Its just that, its my car, i might want to break it in myself, call me crazy =)

[andrave]

right, I understand all that, but the differentials people are talking about- the nismo, the kaaz... they are clutch packs or use viscous or what? I can't find any info , not even from the people that sell them. Everyone here has their own different thing, some people say VLSD's suck but some guys say the clutch type ones suck, and some people say helical's suck...
from what I understand:
vsld's have heat problems, and can take a while to work or something?
clutch type ones can wear out or be overwhelmed.
helical can break and act weird if you drop a tire on a greasy spot or something.
what do the real drifters use? I didn't see anything on the LSD's in my option 2 videos....

[adey]

kaaz tomei nismo 2 ways are all clutch type. There are MUCHO topics about lsd both here and on FA, do some reading and it will all make sense. :cool:

[Brian]

thread hijacking is grrreeeeeat!

[Dousan_PG]

vlsd: uses heat to activate and lock side shafts

helical i dont know but it isnt good for drift..something about giving power to one wheel when you want equal to both

clutch (kaaz, nismo, tomie, ats, etc), yes you need it rebuilt over time..but not as much as some might say. it is HARD on tires and kills them but for drifting its what you want.

pros use Nismo SSS if they drive nissans
pros use TRD if they drift Toyota

ON AVERAGE
what option vid do you have and i'll watch it and tell you what some of them have.

[Grant]

The event was great. I wish i had know earlier that it only cost $50 to run in the beginner courses. I would have needed an extra set of wheels/tires though. I'm a broke college student, who has very little money to invest at a time :(

My car isnt in very great shape right now.. clutch slave or master cylinder is going. o2 sensor needs to be replaced, and so on..

Aaron I saw you but you were talking to niki and walk right past me.. Adey, I have yet to meet you, I think..

Did anyone talk to that crazy guy trying to drift that Isuzu Rodeo? OMG..

as a matter of fact nitekids. the M coupe did rather well,. the porsche did ok. I didnt see YOU laying any smack down so shut the f**K up. Some say VW is ugly, some say your car is ugly. I think the 2nd statement is by far more correct. :D
Hehe, but it was cool to chill with you again, glad u showed up at the event. Good luck at the apexi Garage sale. hehe knock em all out Hank!

Pruto and Drift freaq, sorry I couldnt catch you there, I was all over the place. Drift freaq, any luck with an LSD? I want one soon hehe.

Hopefully my car will be in better condition, its been giving me small probs lately (all these damn excuses yea yea, but I do have to drive back to SD in one piece). I need LSD as well. I have a tendency to spin out when i f**K around like that (just ask mrmephistopheles). I've been able to pull a couple of power over (u turn) at 20-30mph but i don't get too far sideways before a wheel catches. to summarize that? I suck at driving.

Hopefully I can at least ride in someone's car (or actually participate) in the next event with my friend (in his j30, well at least he has LSD). any MAYBE, just MAYBE a red s13 coupe with s14 SE wheels MIGHT just show up to one of these events these days and the driver can show his true talent and skill.

[SilviaDriver]

dunno if this was posted or not cuz i wasnt following the thread but heres a vid of the showoff

click me (http://mirror3.needanime.com/sso/driftshowbySSO.WMV)

my friend juss sent it to me to watch since i wasnt able to attend the event. whomever made the vid..credit is due to you.

[NiteKids]

Originally posted by SilviaDriver
dunno if this was posted or not cuz i wasnt following the thread but heres a vid of the showoff

click me (http://mirror3.needanime.com/sso/driftshowbySSO.WMV)

my friend juss sent it to me to watch since i wasnt able to attend the event. whomever made the vid..credit is due to you.

http://www.willraceforfood.com/videos/driftshowoff_highlite.wmv

another one I found

[adey]

Originally posted by Grant
Adey, I have yet to meet you, I think.. Don't worry, you're not missing out. :p Were you in the pits, or only in the stands? Did you get to watch any of the 'novice' drivers? ... you may have seen my car (it's hard to forget)-- it was the red hatch with mismatched f bumper, fenders and hood... nothing to see, really. :D

[mixedwell]

i thought the even t was tyte. i was going to enter but i had no clue where and how to do so. i was hanging out with the signal guys for a while cuz i know yoshi and lance becasue they helped me wiht some fo my SR stuff. did anyone cathc that hawaiin guy that drove Sams (Jspec.com) car? that guy was good. i think he would have given the Japanese drivers a run for the money. benson did a great job as well. props to him. koguchi drives like a monster. that bad ass trueno did a good job too and it was tyte when they started strapping down the models and some other peopl to the signal cars. sigh... one day i will drive the S15 sideways, not just straitaways. argh! damn you Kenji! dman you!

holla

mixedwell ;)

ps- buy my s14 motor! ahhH!

[andrave]

sorry for the thread hijacking, I just tossed that question out there. BTW, I have the sr20det option 2 special, all they have is sr20det powered stuff. They have a drag car, and 2 or 3 sets of s13's, s14's, and s15's.
Any chance of this drift show off coming out east? no??

[Dousan_PG]

oh i dotn get those. i can get access to any option video #42 up.

um..east coast. last i heard stuff was being planned but no date yet. probaly not for few months. california has more import shows then you can shake a stick it, at least 1 if not more per month. its pretty crazy. really common. but im sure if the cali ones do well, east coast will see more action. who knows. ken miyoshi im sure isnt complaining about the profit made on sunday!!

[Grant]

Originally posted by adey
Don't worry, you're not missing out. :p Were you in the pits, or only in the stands? Did you get to watch any of the 'novice' drivers? ... you may have seen my car (it's hard to forget)-- it was the red hatch with mismatched f bumper, fenders and hood... nothing to see, really. :D

yep I saw that one.. You did pretty good. I was keeping an eye on Steve and alex too.. and that Rodeo lol.. that guy had gutz. (as far as I remember the rodeo is one the the SUV's that are known for flipping over easily?, not sure).

[kanekz]

Originally posted by fogleroller
AHEM....AHEM......credit please....

Good to see you again: Janet & Danny, Mike (told you I'd get you in), Alex (chang), Mike (FC3S from DAve Turner), Oh yeah, and you too Steve.

John, you dah man! haha. Thanks alot, I appreciate it. I didn't want you to go all over the place to get me the pass because I didn't want to cause too much trouble for you. Anyways, thanks alot. Nice to see Janet and Danny as well. Danny, thanks for the ride in. Janet, I called gspeed today....vlsd. :( Thanks anyways though, but too bad huh. I was sad.
Adey(adriel), nice meeting you as well. I hope I didn't butcher the spelling of your name. Anyways, it was fun....ALTHOUGH you guys might know my story of OVERSLEEPING and missing the registration in the morning with all my equipment prep'd and was in my car. DOOOOOH! :mad: I wont miss the next one!

-Mike

[fogleroller]

Originally posted by kanekz
Anyways, it was fun....ALTHOUGH you guys might know my story of OVERSLEEPING and missing the registration in the morning with all my equipment prep'd and was in my car. DOOOOOH! :mad: I wont miss the next one!

-Mike

BE THERE! I'll try to get a car ready for April 6th!

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by Grant
MAYBE a red s13 coupe with s14 SE wheels MIGHT just show up to one of these events these days and the driver can show his true talent and skill.

It's a fastback, for one, and I think i'd be more likely to make an ass of myself than anything. However, if you'd seen me getting on the 805 after I left your place today.. hehehe I wish I could've gotten that on film.

-Kevin

[Grant]

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
It's a fastback, for one, and I think i'd be more likely to make an ass of myself than anything. However, if you'd seen me getting on the 805 after I left your place today.. hehehe I wish I could've gotten that on film.

-Kevin

Well maybe I WASNT talking about you.. :D lol (ok ok i did make mistake). Seeing what you have done before in unihabited areas (where no biological life exists), I think you would do pretty well on the track, since you are rather confident and can control your car rather well.. far better than me.

Its funny tho, the less I fear my car spinning out, the better I get at this. now I just wonder how much different an VLSD would be. (no I can't afford expensive LSD just yet).

[s15dude]

Originally posted by Grant
Hopefully I can at least ride in someone's car (or actually participate) in the next event with my friend (in his j30, well at least he has LSD). any MAYBE, just MAYBE a red s13 coupe with s14 SE wheels MIGHT just show up to one of these events these days and the driver can show his true talent and skill.


That be cool if kevin drove, I havent seen him in a long time, and grant dont even think about putting my LSD in your car ;) :D drifting J30, that would be crazy, if only it werent for the damn expensive tires and my broke a$$ I would think about it

[midnights14]

Koguchi is the man.

That's all I have to say :).

[Grant]

Originally posted by s15dude
That be cool if kevin drove, I havent seen him in a long time, and grant dont even think about putting my LSD in your car ;) :D drifting J30, that would be crazy, if only it werent for the damn expensive tires and my broke a$$ I would think about it

dont worry, I will try to get a pair of wheels/tires for us to use at the event.. i think if you use my r32 up front and just a random set of wheel/tire in the back, you can do some good practice.

[DRO916]

Originally posted by NiteKids
http://www.willraceforfood.com/videos/driftshowoff_highlite.wmv

another one I found

thats a crazy ass video!!! i liked when kouguchi almost hit the people standing...with intention...

[adey]

Originally posted by pnoydro916
thats a crazy ass video!!! i liked when kouguchi almost hit the people standing...with intention... That's exactly what he did to me and some friends who were standing in the pits (BEFORE the stupid Irwindale crew went and set up another boundary) ... his bumper probably came within 2 inches of the cones marking out the boundary (with the yellow tape on it) and my friends and I were about 2 feet away from the cone... it was the CRAZIEST thing I'd ever seen! All I could think of was "****, should I take a step back?... Is he going to hit me?" ... but we all stood our ground, having faith in his driving. :p Amaaaazing.

[mrmephistopheles]

Originally posted by s15dude
That be cool if kevin drove, I havent seen him in a long time, and grant dont even think about putting my LSD in your car ;) :D drifting J30, that would be crazy, if only it werent for the damn expensive tires and my broke a$$ I would think about it

Can I doridori your J30, Rory? :)
Unfortunately, you won't see me for a long time, either.. I'm driving across the country, starting friday.

-Kevin