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xxcivic96xx
02-08-2009, 01:25 AM
ok so i just got new rear upper control arms because i was trying to fix my camber and make the tires flat. i went to put then on...
and i was wondering if would have to get new traction rods also?

i have a lowered 89 hatch with all stock suspension besides the coilovers

any help would be appreciated :) thanks

codunc
02-08-2009, 01:40 AM
traction rods aren't necessary, but they help eliminate slop and give more adjustability.
camber doesn't wear tires, toe does.
get at least toe arms and traction rods if possible, and get an alignment

initial_drifter
02-08-2009, 01:51 AM
Just get some toe rods for now.

When you do an alignment close to stock your wheels will do this V thus making your car fly to the next lane with the slightest pull...

undesiredshoe
02-08-2009, 02:10 AM
Yeah if you go too low on stock suspension arms, your wheels go all pigeon toed like a little girl.

http://www.smugmug.com/photos/315866516_F22zX-M.jpg

Get toe arms

Just get some toe rods for now.

When you do an alignment close to stock your wheels will do this V thus making your car fly to the next lane with the slightest pull...

yokotas13
02-08-2009, 02:23 AM
traction rods aren't necessary, but they help eliminate slop and give more adjustability.
camber doesn't wear tires, toe does.
get at least toe arms and traction rods if possible, and get an alignment
yeah, im going to say you need to edit that to say:

camber doesnt wear tires, toe does, unless you have -20* of camber like yokotas13 did



you do not need traction arms until you are removing nuts on your camber arms because you need more. You do however need toe arms with even minor camber adjustments

revat619
02-08-2009, 02:48 AM
rear upper control arms and toe arms should always be bought together IMO.

For you, traction rods aren't necessary. Toe rods is all. Done and done.

J40sx
02-08-2009, 03:24 AM
make sure you get an Alignment!!!!
i killed my tires in 3 months and i rarely drive

JRas
02-08-2009, 11:31 AM
you don't need traction rods..

but I recommend toe rods for anyone getting rucas..

Chernobyl
02-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Toe rods should be first IMO. From the 5 S-chassis cars I've owned, I always noticed that when lowering, I ran out of toe adjustment in the stock arms way before I ran out of camber adjustment. I'd rather have 0 toe and -3 camber than 0 camber and toe-in or toe-out that I couldn't adjust out.

xxcivic96xx
02-08-2009, 03:45 PM
thank you everyone :) that has been a great help

one more quick question...how much camber does everyone run?
mine is a daily driver and i dont want to wear the tires down too fast

undesiredshoe
02-08-2009, 08:12 PM
thank you everyone :) that has been a great help

one more quick question...how much camber does everyone run?
mine is a daily driver and i dont want to wear the tires down too fast

I dont know but i just removed my coilover and put my wheel on and then lifted the wheel until it tucked and then adjusted my camber so i would have mm's of clearance:bite::bite::bite::bite::bite::bite:

wickedjester
02-09-2009, 07:14 PM
traction rods aren't necessary, but they help eliminate slop and give more adjustability.
camber doesn't wear tires, toe does.
get at least toe arms and traction rods if possible, and get an alignment



verry wrong sir camber wears tires as bad as toe


Wheel Alignment A Short Course (http://www.familycar.com/alignment.htm)

just an fyi

MisawaJason
02-09-2009, 07:58 PM
not nearly as bad. My front wheels were cambered and the toe was way effed up. I had the same amount of camber as my friend did but I went through a set of tires in something like 2 months and even after the whole season, his tires were fine. Normal camber wear but nothing radical.