whats the deal with apex-i gt-spec

[CoasTek240]

ok i have read all the time bout people putting these huge exhasuts on their N/A cars...
normally there is a turbo version and N/A version(turbo's bigger) of an exhaust but thats not the case apex-i n-1 dual, gt-spec or the blitz nur-spec.

i understand the philosophy behind the n-1 dual, more air flow but also increased surface area thus keeps torque whiel gaining mid range hp, however, whats the deal with gt-specs and nurspecs on N/a cars i figure it woud not be benficial am i missing something here.

-now i might be able to understand someone whos N/A buying one b/c they will be turbo soona dn dont wanna spend more than they have to, but somone recently told me they are staying N/A and the g-tspec is still good.
doesnt it have a 3 3/4" mandrel bent piping.?

[AceInHole]

My opinion (since it isn't proven):
If someone is staying N/A and using the GT spec exhaust, they most likely didn't do any research or thinking. You really don't need more than a 2.5" exhaust on an N/A 240... even that's sort of overkill.

[CoasTek240]

ok thats what i always thought.. but i didnt wanna sound like a retard (i guess thats a little late) just wanted to make sure..
thanx

[kandyflip445]

Originally posted by AceInHole
My opinion (since it isn't proven):
If someone is staying N/A and using the GT spec exhaust, they most likely didn't do any research or thinking. You really don't need more than a 2.5" exhaust on an N/A 240... even that's sort of overkill.

Unless you have a V12 in your car......:rolleyes: :p

[drift into a curb]

LOL who said they were going to stay NA and run a GT Spec exhaust? So I can kindly point and laugh. I have a GT Spec right now and plan to run forced induction in a few months when I finish my suspension. It's a drastic loss of torque that you can feel when you try accelerating. 3.75" may even be too big for a turbo'd car because the possibility of the flow velocity decreasing. I guess I can always sell my exhaust to someone that thinks the same way as the guy Coastek was talking about.

[Saul240]

Personally I would choose a turbo exhaust, and maybe for some other people too, because you never know if you are going to drop in a greddy, f-max, etc. trubo. So once you drop in a turbo your allready set....i dont really konw that much about the gt spec exhaust than I do with the N1 Dual.

[AceInHole]

3.75" may even be too big for a turbo'd car because the possibility of the flow velocity decreasing.
Well, you don't necessarily care about flow velocity as much with exhaust after the turbine, as much as you care about overall flow (volume or mass flow).

Originally posted by Saul240
Personally I would choose a turbo exhaust, and maybe for some other people too, because you never know if you are going to drop in a greddy, f-max, etc. trubo. So once you drop in a turbo your allready set....i dont really konw that much about the gt spec exhaust than I do with the N1 Dual.
So you'd rather have ****ty performance now, and waste money that could be used for the turbo kit or some unknown cost that might come when you get the turbo kit?? I'm not trying to ridicule you... I just don't get the point of modifying your car with no purpose, because the way you put it, it sounds like someone should get a turbo exhaust even if they aren't sure if they can or will even be able to afford a turbo kit later.

[Saul240]

Originally posted by AceInHole
Well, you don't necessarily care about flow velocity as much with exhaust after the turbine, as much as you care about overall flow (volume or mass flow).


So you'd rather have ****ty performance now, and waste money that could be used for the turbo kit or some unknown cost that might come when you get the turbo kit?? I'm not trying to ridicule you... I just don't get the point of modifying your car with no purpose, because the way you put it, it sounds like someone should get a turbo exhaust even if they aren't sure if they can or will even be able to afford a turbo kit later.

Let me say this....the basis that you WILL get a Turbo soon, and have the money...personally i like the exhaust also :D

[Dousan_PG]

AceInHole, everyone ( :rolleyes: ) is doing a swap/forced induction. its just part of god's plan :rolleyes:



personally nothing wrong w/ buying one exhaust using till...whenever and when you go turbo you get another one. then when you get ticketed for your new one which is loud you put your old on back on and chill for a bit.

also if you get bored you can change ehxausts for fun.

maybe im just wierd like that
but i would buy one now(like i have) and get another when one day (probalby never) go turbo.

[AceInHole]

Originally posted by dousan36
AceInHole, everyone ( :rolleyes: ) is doing a swap/forced induction. its just part of god's plan :rolleyes:
man... what was I thinking?? damn... I'm gonna go buy an SR front clip right now!! forgive me for I have sinned! :eek:

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personally nothing wrong w/ buying one exhaust using till...whenever and when you go turbo you get another one. then when you get ticketed for your new one which is loud you put your old on back on and chill for a bit.

also if you get bored you can change ehxausts for fun.

maybe im just wierd like that
but i would buy one now(like i have) and get another when one day (probalby never) go turbo. [/B]
uhh.. are you saying that you'd get an NA exhaust now and get a turbo exhaust later?? What I would do, if I planned to go turbo... is buy whatever I'd need to get the turbo running.... then buy the parts to optimize the turbo.

[Saul240]

Originally posted by AceInHole
man... what was I thinking?? damn... I'm gonna go buy an SR front clip right now!! forgive me for I have sinned! :eek:


uhh.. are you saying that you'd get an NA exhaust now and get a turbo exhaust later?? What I would do, if I planned to go turbo... is buy whatever I'd need to get the turbo running.... then buy the parts to optimize the turbo.

I totally agree, not to be picking sides but I would rather save money and go with the turbo exhaust, because then later I would save money, by not having to buy another exhaust system. Also i dont see anything wrong with a turbo exhaust, having a N/A car for a couple of months with a turbo exhaust then getting a turbo system. But I could see if you like changing exhausts and spending money, then buy a normal exhaust first and install a turbo exhaust later.

[Dousan_PG]

yeah i see what you guys are saying

i get my full catback brand name jdm bling bling free or "cheap" (remember, "cheap" is a relative word) so i could start "collecting" exhausts if i wanted, but im not going turbo w/ the 240sx so its kind of a waste for me

anyways, do what you want haha
whatever.

[AceInHole]

Originally posted by Saul240
I totally agree, not to be picking sides but I would rather save money and go with the turbo exhaust, because then later I would save money, by not having to buy another exhaust system. Also i dont see anything wrong with a turbo exhaust, having a N/A car for a couple of months with a turbo exhaust then getting a turbo system. But I could see if you like changing exhausts and spending money, then buy a normal exhaust first and install a turbo exhaust later.

well, what I'm saying is the exhaust isn't necessary, so why buy it if you plan on going turbo, untill after you have the turbo on the car?? It's not like you can't live with the stock exhaust on the car, and if you're going turbo you probably don't have the headers or high flow cat (maybe the cat) to efficiently use the exhaust anyways.

but... this all started under the premise that a person NOT going turbo would get a turbo exhaust, which is really pointless.

[Saul240]

Originally posted by AceInHole
but... this all started under the premise that a person NOT going turbo would get a turbo exhaust, which is really pointless.

I see what you mean, and i do agree to some extent, because it all comes down to how much money you have and if you are getting a turbo. But in your case your saying its pointless to purchase a turbo exhaust system, when you dont even have the word "turbo" in mind, and I agree with you on that.

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Originally posted by AceInHole
well, what I'm saying is the exhaust isn't necessary, so why buy it if you plan on going turbo, untill after you have the turbo on the car?? It's not like you can't live with the stock exhaust on the car, and if you're going turbo you probably don't have the headers or high flow cat (maybe the cat) to efficiently use the exhaust anyways.

i'd have to agree with ace. you might as well just save up money to get turbo. if you keep spending money on little things, you'll never save up enough money to go turbo. the turbo can run fine with regular exhausts. once you got the turbo on there, go ahead and pop in a turbo exhaust to get better performance.

[AceInHole]

yeah.... like when i got my cusco STB, asad was like "heh.. that's money that could finish off your turbo..." well, something like that. but, in my case, the STB was to help prep the car for autox... i'm rambling now. :p

[d240t2]

like when i got my cusco STB, asad was like "heh.. that's money that could finish off your turbo..."

Aboo has no room to talk...when I put together my turbo kit and motor swap...I thought he was going to get his turbo kit done before me. Now, it has been over a year that I have been running on my turbo setup, and he still is NA. All he needs is to build a downpipe and bolt stuff together, as far as I know. If he lived in any state other than NJ, I'd go up there and start working on it myself.

Dennis