Who would win

[bmarley5780]

a 240 s13 stock with a sr/ka

or

a stock acura gsr

[thelinja]

Ok, you're a newb so it can slide this time. An sr S13 would slaughter a stock GS-R, no questions asked. As for a stock KA vs. GS-R. . . that's a different story. Though they weigh about the same (2600-2700lbs), the GS-R has 15 more hp, but the S13 has 32lb-ft more of tq. This all depends on how good a driver you are. Some people on this board would go right away with the Teg winning. I personally have no problem keeping up with GS-R's.
For future reference, please don't post topics like this.

[240silvia]

No matter what, an SR would beat the hell out of a GSR, Now the KA motor, just like that other guy said, you would bust out of the line and he would just kinda roll. Now i think, actually I know that with the GSR having VTEC, he would catch up, but in the 1/4 I believe it would be about the same. I'm in Wilmington, Where are you???

[Saul240]

Well depending on the driver, a stock s13 would probably beat a gsr, but if its even an SR20 not the SR20DET it would kill the GSR, also take in part that if you would take the s13 on track, it is a rear wheel drive car (as we all know), and that too gains advatage over the gsr, being the GSR a front wheel drive car. Also look at the torque on a GSR, which is 128, the s13 has 32lbs more of torque than the GSR, like said above. One other disadvantage about the s13, is its multiport injected, compared to the GSR's electronic fuel injection. One other thing is the engine size on the s13 is a 2.4L engine and the GSR is a 1.8L engine. Also take in part the disadvantages of weight.

[bmarley5780]

im in J'ville...
Do you know where i can find a 240 shell?

[S13CRAVE]

Originally posted by Saul240
Well depending on the driver, a stock s13 would probably beat a gsr, but if its even an SR20 not the SR20DET it would kill the GSR,

SR20 is just and abbreviation for SR20DET, not a different engine. SR20DE is different, SR20 is just a shorthand way of writing in. (just for future reference)

~Ian

[Saul240]

thanks, yeah i meant SR20DE, compared to the SR20DET...thanks for the correction

[Bbandit]

okay i know the answer to this ka vs gsr
a friend of mine has a gsr I/H/E.. that thing ran 15 flat quarter mile
with better tires.. he could go high 14

yes i tried him once on some empty street at 2 am
he beat the hell out of my KA...
1st gear i went infront of him... after 2nd gear.. he passed me and i cant even stick with him...

so yes.. i will stick to autoX :D

[Saul240]

Originally posted by Bbandit
okay i know the answer to this ka vs gsr
a friend of mine has a gsr I/H/E.. that thing ran 15 flat quarter mile
with better tires.. he could go high 14

yes i tried him once on some empty street at 2 am
he beat the hell out of my KA...
1st gear i went infront of him... after 2nd gear.. he passed me and i cant even stick with him...

so yes.. i will stick to autoX :D

True True, Like I said above, 240's have a higher chance over a GSR on track, due to the fact that 240's are rear wheel drive, have higher torque and have better handeling than the GSR

[Integraholic]

Who wants my input? :)

[Saul240]

Originally posted by Integraholic
Who wants my input? :)


you have somthing to add about this??? :D

[Dousan_PG]

Originally posted by Saul240
True True, Like I said above, 240's have a higher chance over a GSR on track, due to the fact that 240's are rear wheel drive, have higher torque and have better handeling than the GSR


not true (for the RWD part specifically)
civics (egs and eks) DOMINATE the track.


regarding the original question:
imho, it all comes down to the driver

[Integraholic]

Well, completely stock, I ran a 15.1 at the track. Only 240 CLOSE to stock that I've seen get anywhere near that was EvilS14 who ran a 15.3 with just N1 dual cat-back. I did a couple DIY mods and put an AEM intake on the car and hit a 14.5. I dont know how to compare track running with other cars, but I'm confident in my car's handling with only aftermarket springs.

[Integraholic]

Here's what I was trying to attach.

[TrueSlide]

Hmm the GS-R would win hands down.

S13s dont come stock with the SR(Iam sure u know that), so if its american its not stock and thats not what you compared, the KA stock will get its ass handed on the straights. Take a GS-R through the turns, and the story line changes dramatically ;)

[91blk240]

GSR should win

KA might take the GSR off the line, but I bet the GSR will easily make it up in the top end.(Atleast thats what i have seen 99 percent of the time)

[Grant]

Saul240
SR20DE powered s13/s14 doesnt exist in the US. It only existed in the Sentra SE-R and 200sx SE-R.

here we have KA24DE. as far as i remember. honda/acuras had multi port fuel injections. Toyotas had EFI, if that consititues in a difference at all. GSR will come out as winner in a longer run.. KA suffers on the high end, and 240 also has speed limiter. (if you dare go that fast). It all boils down to the driver. If the race include turns, then the race would balance out.. GSR's can still hold their own on the track..

[Integraholic]

I'd love to hit a road course with some of you. I'm itching to hit one, I just dont know where any are =(

[TrueSlide]

What state are you in? Iam in Virginia, and currently in the process of rebuilding my KA24E and as soon as that is up and running good, I plan on heading to VIR a couple of times, never been to a track before, should be fun :D

[Integraholic]

I live in Indy. We've got all kinds of tracks for drag racing, NASCAR and IRL and crap, I just dont know where any road courses are.

[drift into a curb]

In a drag, the GSR would win. I have a '98 Integra GSR and a '95 s14. My s14 gets rocked by the GSR on acceleration. That being said, the only advantage the s13 would have is that they are lighter than the s14, but it may have a chance before VTEC kicks in.

[Nerfdude]

heh, by all logical sense, the GSR should hand a KA's ass over, but some kid at my school drives a GSR, and it was the exact opposite. i ate him. maybe if he hadn't stomped the gas so hard i could hear it bouncing off the rev limiter, and then if he hadn't thrown it into first whilst doing this to create a massive smoky burnout at the cost of his clutch, and maybe if i hadn't just dropped it in at 3500 and left him to spin his wheels by himself....
:rolleyes:
point is, in a race that close, it all comes down to the driver. is this GSR driven by a respectable driver, or some [email protected] ricer who can't handle his car?

[misnomer]

Your mom would win.

There are too many of these threads, cut it out arready :-)

[Saul240]

Originally posted by Grant
Saul240
SR20DE powered s13/s14 doesnt exist in the US. It only existed in the Sentra SE-R and 200sx SE-R.


I know....i was refering as if the s13 SR20DE would match up against the GSR, I never said that the SR20DE exists or existed in the US

[Jeff240sx]

Originally posted by Saul240
I know....i was refering as if the s13 SR20DE would match up against the GSR, I never said that the SR20DE exists or existed in the US

I'm locking this thread based on this answer.
Would my 56* M-shaped 28 cylinder engine with 20,001 horsepower beat a Yugo? I don't care that it doesn't exist! I wanna know!
Arg! Someone grow up!
-Jeff