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LA_phantom_240
01-07-2009, 11:37 AM
I think I have a bad wheel bearing... here are my symptoms:
1) Between 38 and 48 mph, the inside of my car sounds like an 18-wheeler on the interstate (WHIIIIIIRRRRRR)
2) Recently I noticed when I brake lightly (like coming to a stop sign), when I get to about 20mph the car rumbles and something inside my dash starts to rattle....
3) Today I was inspecting my tires, and decided to shake on my front wheels, and my driver's side kinda clicked and I felt a small amount of movement...

Now, when I got my wheels last spring I noticed the front tires are noisy (BFG G-Force T/A) by nature... and when I put my coilovers on (Still cambering hardcore ATM) the front end got like twice as noisy.

Sounds like a wheel bearing to you guys? My S14 has like 170k on the chassis, so it wouldn't surprise me.

Also, is it true I have to buy the whole hub? If so, I'll get Nismo extended studs while I'm at it.

RIMTUCK
01-07-2009, 12:25 PM
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devnull
01-07-2009, 12:27 PM
Does the noise shift as you turn left or right?

Nissan OEM front wheel bearings include the hub.

projectRDM
01-07-2009, 01:04 PM
jack the car up, if there's even a hint of play or noise when pressing against the wheel both side to side or fore/aft, the bearing is gone.

LA_phantom_240
01-07-2009, 04:49 PM
jack the car up, if there's even a hint of play or noise when pressing against the wheel both side to side or fore/aft, the bearing is gone.

And continuing to to drive like that will make my wheel come off, right?

boozels
01-07-2009, 05:00 PM
yea if the wheel can move at all then the wb is bad
and yes i have seen wheels come off due to a bad wb.
change that ish asap
GL

LA_phantom_240
01-07-2009, 05:15 PM
Mehhhhh.... Fuckit.



lol jk. As soon as I can afford it. I only drive back and forth to work, maybe 2 miles each way, and its all under 50mph. Insurance > Wheel bearing.

LA_phantom_240
01-07-2009, 06:42 PM
Sound doesn't change when turning. I'm thinking noisy ass tires with awkward alignment specs due to slamming the front end without adj. TC rods, excessive camber, etc.

5t341tH
01-07-2009, 07:20 PM
tire noise does not usually come from bad alignment unless its major. most likely its ur bearings. i drove on a bad one for months. once it was changed, i was in total bliss

ManoNegra
01-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Also check to make sure all your suspension bolts are tight
I'd had similar symptoms due to loose hardware

I had a bad rear driver side bearing once on my S13
rear stepped out and pulled sideways
lifted the rear and the wheel wobbled

LA_phantom_240
01-07-2009, 09:52 PM
tire noise does not usually come from bad alignment unless its major. most likely its ur bearings. i drove on a bad one for months. once it was changed, i was in total bliss

It does pull pretty hard, and I have bad TC rod bushings.

fliprayzin240sx
01-07-2009, 11:31 PM
Yups, jack the car up and push top of the wheel and bottom, see if it wiggles. If it does, its definitely the bearing. If you push on the sides and it wiggles, it could also be a bad tie rod end.

Pacman
01-08-2009, 11:18 PM
Make sure the coil sleeve is tight (the bottom locknut to the body). That can cause a movement in the wheel. Spin your wheel to see if there is any noise or feels like a pepper grinder when spun. Noise usually occurs when turning but not always the case.

LA_phantom_240
01-09-2009, 06:40 AM
Pushed on wheel last night while putting o2 sensor in. I thought I had left to right movement, but it just turns out the other wheel was moving in sync... so no movement at all. Its just shitty alignment paired with excessively noisy tires.

For reference, don't DD on BFG G-Force T/A KDW tires...

clark
01-09-2009, 06:53 AM
I think I have a bad wheel bearing... here are my symptoms:

2) Recently I noticed when I brake lightly (like coming to a stop sign), when I get to about 20mph the car rumbles and something inside my dash starts to rattle....




lol...umm you drive a 240sx, the dash will always rattle lol.

i experienced the same whirr you have. but mine was my differential. i jacked the car up on stands (rear wheels only) to find out what he culprit was. you need a friend to do this.

redline racer510
01-09-2009, 10:51 AM
just press out your bearings from the hub and replace with new bearing. go to any mechanic shop and more then likely they will press them out for a couple of bucks or even free

LA_phantom_240
01-09-2009, 11:35 AM
just press out your bearings from the hub and replace with new bearing. go to any mechanic shop and more then likely they will press them out for a couple of bucks or even free

I have presses comin out the ass at work. Manual, hydraulic, and electric over hydraulic. Pressing stuff is no problem. Unfortunately, I've been told you can't order just a wheel bearing with an S14, as they come as a whole hub... Courtesy Nissan also sells only the hub.

lol...umm you drive a 240sx, the dash will always rattle lol.

i experienced the same whirr you have. but mine was my differential. i jacked the car up on stands (rear wheels only) to find out what he culprit was. you need a friend to do this.

And how did you troubleshoot this? My dash never rattled before. My s14 has been an exceptionally great car for me, considering what I paid for it.



Also, has anyone had trouble with the center carrier bearing on their 240s? When I'm at 80mph, the shifter vibrates A LOT and jumps around. Its funny... but it gets on my nerves.

5150Fab
01-09-2009, 11:53 AM
you probably have bad motor mounts and or tranny mount. thats probably the reason for the shifter movement. I had this same problem, new motormounts fixed it.

It sounds like you have bad tension rod bushings. Check all the hardware, make sure everything is tight. sometimes the nuts inside the frame break off and you cant tighten them without cutting into the frame. Once again i had this same problem and it was the tension rod mounts were as loose as a goose, all the same stuff was happening. It would make noise turning, when breaking it would make my wheels shake like crazy, and it was hell on my front tires. Im betting this is your problem too.

tougekid
01-09-2009, 12:14 PM
I just had to replace my inner tie rod. same simptums.
The wheel wouldnt move up and down but would move left and right 1/4".
When in reverse and turning, the wheel would rub on the coil. But no other time.

LA_phantom_240
01-09-2009, 04:36 PM
you probably have bad motor mounts and or tranny mount. thats probably the reason for the shifter movement. I had this same problem, new motormounts fixed it.

It sounds like you have bad tension rod bushings. Check all the hardware, make sure everything is tight. sometimes the nuts inside the frame break off and you cant tighten them without cutting into the frame. Once again i had this same problem and it was the tension rod mounts were as loose as a goose, all the same stuff was happening. It would make noise turning, when breaking it would make my wheels shake like crazy, and it was hell on my front tires. Im betting this is your problem too.

Motor mounts and tranny mount are nismo, and have like 10k miles on them. I know my front tension rods have bad bushings for sure. I'm just gonna get some adjustable pillowball style rods (probably SPL) beings I've still got some slamming to do on my coilovers. I want to get low enough where I can't stand a pack of cigs under my front lip. Only about 0.5" to go.

I just had to replace my inner tie rod. same simptums.
The wheel wouldnt move up and down but would move left and right 1/4".
When in reverse and turning, the wheel would rub on the coil. But no other time.


I'm looking into this as well. I need to replace my boots on my steering rack before it gets filthy and wears my seal out and starts to leak.