What do i do when buying cars from another person?

[silviaslave]

looked at a s14 kouki today, and im def interested in buying the car. what are some steps to do before i actually hand over the check? what kind of mechanic should i take it to do a check on the car of a sr20det? do i go with the seller to the DMV? what do i do there exactly? i plan to have him give it as a gift, the money transfer i got under control, but the others i dont know. let me know thanks

[svensko]

You're attempting to buy a SR20ed 240 in CA?

Here is my advice: don't.

[ZX88]

yeah dont

this is what i did when i bough my dd.

-went and met a seller at a midas got the car hooked up and tested for error codes (obd2) find a tuner shop to look aty the sr your in socal so it shouldnt be hard.
-paid with cash made a contract that i typed stating the deal going on and how much he agreed to selll the car for etc.(for my records get signatures etc)
- filled out bill of sale
- went to dmv paid sales tax and got the car registered to me
- then went and got a inspection

thats what you do with a normal legal car. but in your case youll need to find a sr friendly shop to get a inspection or a friend.

[ericcastro]

By SR20 shop.
He means a shop that will illegally pass your car through smog for a higher price.

Most likely, if your asking these questions, you dont know a shop like that.
And no one will give you the info to their shop that will do it.
I know I don't tell anyone.

Buy a KA2.4 car.
Build suspention for awhile.
get cool rims.
learn about engines while doing regular maintenence and oil changes.
And when your 20, the car will be ready for a SR or what ever you want.


BTW, buying SR20's that havent been rebuilt is the same as buying a KA engine.
Its old and will eventually go when you start driving it hard.
So buy KA, Rebuilt a SR20 in the garage, and build it for more HP than stock ;)

[silviaslave]

the cars already smogged so i wont have to worry for 2 years. http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/231327-ca-s14-sr20det-kouki-c-11-000obo.html#post2548914 Installed by signal auto and the seller is a guy i trust. my only questions are should i really not buy a sr20det in CA as much as the car looks stock? Cant i just check the compresssion and leak down test on the sr20det, and regular stuff?or do i need to check other things before i buy? thanks....i want that s14 BAD!

[svensko]

Dude, you're 18 and you're going to spend $11K on a car over a decade old? :spank:

You get two years of care-free driving, at least until you're pulled over (and you will be) then what? :hahano:

[silviaslave]

Dude, you're 18 and you're going to spend $11K on a car over a decade old? :spank:

You get two years of care-free driving, at least until you're pulled over (and you will be) then what? :hahano:

negotiated down to 10.2, comes with 2 sets of wheels and 2 driver seats. mods well over 15k. ive been searching for a month on sr20dets in CA, and there isnt many people that got their cars impounded except mostly fix it tickets due to modified exhaust. -this exhaust being black coated/i wont be driving like a maniac at all/no tint. if i drive fine, wont i not have any reason for cops to pull me over?

[svensko]

18 year olds do not buy $11K cars to take sunday drives in. I was 18 once and I understand how self-control works. Just curious, but are you paying cash or using a loan?

[silviaslave]

18 year olds do not buy $11K cars to take sunday drives in. I was 18 once and I understand how self-control works. Just curious, but are you paying cash or using a loan?

its my daily driver which is 20mile commute. paying cash. saved up by working 3 years straight! my car looks stock as fuck though!!!! anyone with more info let me know ASAP

[ericcastro]

the cars already smogged so i wont have to worry for 2 years. http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/231327-ca-s14-sr20det-kouki-c-11-000obo.html#post2548914 Installed by signal auto and the seller is a guy i trust. my only questions are should i really not buy a sr20det in CA as much as the car looks stock? Cant i just check the compresssion and leak down test on the sr20det, and regular stuff?or do i need to check other things before i buy? thanks....i want that s14 BAD!

Wow, seems like a stupid purchase at your age.

11K
What are you planning on doing with it?
If you wanna drift/grip/or drag it, you should start with a stock car and build it yourself. And as you get better, the car will grow and get better parts with you.
A fully built car will probably hold you back a bit.
You need to feel loose suspension, to learn weight transfer.
You need low HP so you learn to make the most of your Hp, find the proper line, and learn peddle control.

BTW, the car isnt good for 2 years.
look at the date that the car was originally purchased off the lot.
thats the date you need to take it in on every 2 years. Not from when you purchase it, or when he got it to pass after 8 extensions.

I had to do my car 4 months after I bought it.




But if your set on this car.
Yeah, leak down and compresion.
Have a REAL mechanic do it.
Someone your family knows or at least neutral.
Not his shop or his mechanic!



Just looked at the thread.
He is pumping up the fact the A/C works as a selling point??
i would maybe offer $8000.00
alot of who cares parts.
Like the seats and rims.
Bit of suspension work and exhaust, what car doesnt have it.
Engine "says" 302HP. thats kinds cool.
NO FRONT BUMPER SUPPORT. that means the slightest crash/rear end someone, and that intercooler and radiator are smashed to shit along wiht the rad support and the front of the engine.
Car will be totalled.
So you will hae to fab something up as a bumper support.


imo

[svensko]

its my daily driver which is 20mile commute. paying cash. saved up by working 3 years straight! my car looks stock as fuck though!!!! anyone with more info let me know ASAP

A modded 240 as a daily driver? :rofl:

Spending three years of your life to buy a decade old car? :rofl:

[sac]

I say do what ya want dude.

I doubt you will ALWAYS drive it nice and easy. But dont spend $$ on a car others tell ya to buy because it will be more practical, or better for you in the long run. Because if your intentions are to build this same car the kid is sellin, then you will in turn spend more money on it.

On the reliability subject.. When signal did the swap did the headgasket get changed? or did they just stick motor in and hook up? If headgasket wasnt changed it probably wont be too reliable during "spirited" driving. I have had quite a few friends that swapped in the sr without changing the headgasket, and it usually blew approxamitely 15k miles after they swapped it. If headgasket has been changed your probably good unless you start throwing major abuse at it (major spirited driving without proper support mods) or high boost for prolonged periods.

I dont know what to tell ya about the "FUZZ". Ya could go a long time without being hassled, or you could get hassled once a month. All depends on how ya drive it, where ya live, how it sounds, etc..

[93nismo]

11k is a bit much for an 18 year old isent it? i mean, im 17 and i know what its like to want shit like that but you gotta think about schooling and shit bro. pick up an unmoded or a slightly moded KA for a hell of alot cheaper and build it yourself. thats what im doin. and u get the satisfaction of doing the work yourself instead of just buying it all done. ultimitly its up to you but id go a little cheaper and i little more stocky:P

[Om1kron]

you ever driven a rear wheel drive car before with that kind of power, granted it's not a lot. have you?

I paid 8300 for my car, and it's a piece of shit, I'm roughly about 6 grand in replacement parts and new aero.

add that up...

and I still have to spend... took my tranny apart and discovered I need a new clutch... so yeah this weeks check replaces drivetrain and oil components.

prepare to spend a lot of money owning that car... how's the turbo? any shaft play, doesn't matter if the car has already been smogged, it requires a smog AGAIN to register it regardless if it was just smogged 2 weeks ago.

[Om1kron]

I dont know what to tell ya about the "FUZZ". Ya could go a long time without being hassled, or you could get hassled once a month. All depends on how ya drive it, where ya live, how it sounds, etc..

He lives in san diego... and they hate imports... trust.

[CrimsonRockett]

If I had 11k saved up, I wouldn't buy another 240.

Mine has well over 11k, but if I had that cash in hand, I'd put it toward something newer(like a 350z).

Advice...don't do it.

[projectRDM]

I agree. Buying a modded car is stupid, you're buying someone else's headache. Buying an old car and paying twice what it's worth is stupid, because you're already loosing your ass on it. Buying a car that is a police magnet is stupid. And buying a car at 18 because it's cool and you just want one but don't know a thing about it is unbelievably stupid.

But if you feel you have to have it, go for it. You've been warned.

[svensko]

Some good advice: Save for another year, then buy a used C5 Corvette for ~$15K.

Pros:
Legal
Powerful in stock form
Doesn't have bosozoku-tards ruining the reputation
Reliable since some hillbilly in a machine shop didn't do the wiring for the engine

Cons:
Will probably have high insurance

[luftrofl]

its my daily driver which is 20mile commute. paying cash. saved up by working 3 years straight! my car looks stock as fuck though!!!! anyone with more info let me know ASAP

Why exactly would you want a car like this on the road?

If you're buying this car with all of these mods, I don't believe for an instant that it's going to remain a daily driver (meaning no "spirited" driving, track days, etc.).

[cc4usmc]

So you posted that car in the for sale section, but its not even your car? wtf are you thinking hahaha.

[silviaslave]

you ever driven a rear wheel drive car before with that kind of power, granted it's not a lot. have you?

I paid 8300 for my car, and it's a piece of shit, I'm roughly about 6 grand in replacement parts and new aero.

add that up...

and I still have to spend... took my tranny apart and discovered I need a new clutch... so yeah this weeks check replaces drivetrain and oil components.

prepare to spend a lot of money owning that car... how's the turbo? any shaft play, doesn't matter if the car has already been smogged, it requires a smog AGAIN to register it regardless if it was just smogged 2 weeks ago.

when i test drove it, it was pure balls with that power on rwd. clutch is AMAZING!, everything nice. do i really need to get it smogged again for registering the car in my name????some clearify this? i own a 95 celica gt now, and that car looks more ricy" then the 240sx i plan to buy.......i hardly ever get pulled over by popo.....

[silviaslave]

Why exactly would you want a car like this on the road?

If you're buying this car with all of these mods, I don't believe for an instant that it's going to remain a daily driver (meaning no "spirited" driving, track days, etc.).

1.i love the s14 chassis 2. i love the power when i need it as opposed to my slow celica. 3.i like owning a car that not many people drive...... cons:im in san diego.... I really need % info on hood pops.... i want the s14 ...yet....its illegal =[

[svensko]

when i test drove it, it was pure balls with that power on rwd. clutch is AMAZING!, everything nice. do i really need to get it smogged again for registering the car in my name????some clearify this? i own a 95 celica gt now, and that car looks more ricy" then the 240sx i plan to buy.......i hardly ever get pulled over by popo.....

Hardly ever != never.

You are asking for a world of pain. :dead:

[luftrofl]

You've completely missed my point. We KNOW you like the S14. We KNOW you like the power that this one has.

Let me lay it out for you, and then some.

1) You want a daily driver. You don't need any mods to drive 20 miles. The car that you have now gets better gas mileage, is legal, and will overall serve you better.
2) Driving a modded car will get you unwanted attention.
3) At your age, you should find a better use for your money.
4) You seem like you're on the path to end up as a typical street racer and, as we're very close in age, raise my insurance costs. Please don't.

[silviaslave]

You've completely missed my point. We KNOW you like the S14. We KNOW you like the power that this one has.

Let me lay it out for you, and then some.

1) You want a daily driver. You don't need any mods to drive 20 miles. The car that you have now gets better gas mileage, is legal, and will overall serve you better.
2) Driving a modded car will get you unwanted attention.
3) At your age, you should find a better use for your money.
4) You seem like you're on the path to end up as a typical street racer and, as we're very close in age, raise my insurance costs. Please don't.

1.my car has no audio, breaks are done, SLOWW!!!, AND AUTO!! WTF! lol 2. i like unwanted attention,except from cops, and the s14 LOOKS STOCK! 3.money=work, school, CAR!, gf can pay me 4.i need to start somewhere dont i? where did keichi tsuchiya learn??=]

[ESmorz]

I live in sd.

I have never had a problem with cops and my 240.

Then again... I don't drive it lol.

You sound like you can't even navigate the dmv website though.

where did keichi tsuchiya learn??=]

azndoc pm him

[Om1kron]

ok... you want a 240 i'll throw the s13 in my garage together and you can tell people you own a 240... I promise you that if you daily drive that car in san diego without dumping at least 1200 in alarm and lowjack someone from tj will come right up and snatch that shit while you're in school.

and yes you HAVE to get a car smogged again to transfer a title in the state of california, there is no way around it. I still need to smog my s14 to complete my registration.

[svensko]

where did keichi tsuchiya learn??=]

All hope is lost.

[ESmorz]

^ Do that lol.

I'll sell you my 240. You would never have cop trouble, it is bone stock and passes smog like nobodies business.

[projectRDM]

1.my car has no audio, breaks are done, SLOWW!!!, AND AUTO!! WTF! lol 2. i like unwanted attention,except from cops, and the s14 LOOKS STOCK! 3.money=work, school, CAR!, gf can pay me 4.i need to start somewhere dont i? where did keichi tsuchiya learn??=]

If you're only driving 20 miles to work, why do you need to be fast? And why do you need a manual? For a commuter car there's nothing better than an auto. Brakes cost less than $100, you're looking to spend 100x times that.

You like unwanted attention, so it's cool if the guys at the gas station follow you home, drag you out of the car, beat you to within an inch of your life, then steal it? Interesting.

You've been caught in an outright lie and now you're backpedaling, which is just sad. Your reasons don't match your goals, and then you throw in a drifter's name to inspire confidence in your choice. Essentially you've just proven our argument, you DO plan to drive like an immature fuck, street race, attempt to drift, and look cool doing it. You won't. You're immature, ignorant, and full of false hope. If you buy the car it will get stolen, you'll crash, or it will be impounded. We can only hope it all happens at once.

[Om1kron]

hahaha he just wants to be accepted guys...

[luftrofl]

1.my car has no audio, breaks are done, SLOWW!!!, AND AUTO!! WTF! lol 2. i like unwanted attention,except from cops, and the s14 LOOKS STOCK! 3.money=work, school, CAR!, gf can pay me 4.i need to start somewhere dont i? where did keichi tsuchiya learn??=]

There's no helping you. People like you end up with suspended licenses, in jail, in the hospital, or, like a friend of mine, dead. Have fun with that future.

[ESmorz]

But seriously OP if you want one of the cleanest s13's you'll ever see stock. Then you'd have like 8k to do mods of your choice.

I'm local. Pm me.

:hahano:

[ZX88]

the cars already smogged so i wont have to worry for 2 years. http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/231327-ca-s14-sr20det-kouki-c-11-000obo.html#post2548914 Installed by signal auto and the seller is a guy i trust. my only questions are should i really not buy a sr20det in CA as much as the car looks stock? Cant i just check the compresssion and leak down test on the sr20det, and regular stuff?or do i need to check other things before i buy? thanks....i want that s14 BAD!

youll have to get it inspected which it will fail as well as a re-smog. plus i wouldnt pay 11k for a 240 with drifterz wheels on it beat oem aero. i think in cali the sr devalues the car for alot of people lol/

[silviaslave]

i thought i would get the most sympathy here...but guess not. anyone have a link that states the facts and research done by cop pullovers? i still dont see how i could get the hood popped if the car looks stock as hell and is not driving like a maniac........

[silviaslave]

quote from 240sx forums- dont get tons of flashy gauges, extremely loud exhausts (unless you want massive horsepower gains), body kits (which are also huge cop attractions) and most importantly, DO NOT GET UNDERCARRIAGE KITS (i will flame on you). BUT the main thing is, dont drive like an idiot. everyone knows that cops dont like import cars, but everyone lies when they all say that the cop pulled them over for just the exhaust. you have to do something (speeding, peeling out, shooting flames *cough**cough*). be somewhere(races, touge), or whatever . i had a cop follow me on the freeway for miles, i stayed at 65, he couldnt do shit. so he got off at the next exit. sure there are times when a cop will tag you when you're driving slow, but that's not too common. as for the smogging, find someone that'll pass you. it's worth the extra hundred or so to pass. and unless you're at the races, the cop most likely wont pop your hood. so the most you get, is an exhaust ticket.

[ESmorz]

Nevermind you can't have my car.

You really are special kind of retard. In case you didn't know cops can pull you over for anything they want. Once you are pulled over they can search your vehicle and inspect for mods.

So if they see exhaust on an import they might go hey, that guy might have a motor swap or it might have a deleted cat. blah blah. I got pulled over for a dim brake light. They searched my whole car, me, all my friends, popped my hood etc... and the car is stock.

Lastly, sympathy from Zilvia?

www.nicoclub.com

[ericcastro]

Your screwed.

you ask for advice.
Everyone here says its a horrable Idea for you.

and you argue to do it.

So shut the fuck up, buy it.

Close this thread on this Troll.

Stay in San Diego. We dont want you driving around north of,mmmm, lets say Huntington.


BTW,
There is no fucking statistic on "pullover to hoods popped ratio".


I bet this is a Troll.
Im reportin this thread.

[ESmorz]

I bet this is a Troll.


Stop using that word.

[silviaslave]

yeah ive heard some cities north of Westminister is really bad. I see you guys telling me to not get it, but i just dont get how MOSTLY everyone in CA are rockin sr20s. if like u guys tell me is a bad choice, what can i do with s14 kouki chassis?? i only need about 200hp.but not sure ill achieve that with bolt ons

[ESmorz]

Why do you NEED 200hp?

[CrimsonRockett]

You don't need anything.

My hatch is KA powered with bolt ons and does just fine.

You don't NEED more power.

Listen to the advice people are giving you.

DONT BUY IT.

But, since you seem kind of hard headed, do whatever you want.

Your money...your choice.

When you get pulled over, popped hood, sent to a ref station, and given big ass fines for that S14 SR swapped car, don't come crying to us.

[silviaslave]

Why do you NEED 200hp?

....fine, I WANT. thinking about getting a clean unmolested s14 kouki chassis...basic bolt ons. but thats still only few hp gain instead of massive like i want. damn, why didnt s14s come stock 240hp?

[svensko]

....fine, I WANT. thinking about getting a clean unmolested s14 kouki chassis...basic bolt ons. but thats still only few hp gain instead of massive like i want. damn, why didnt s14s come stock 240hp?

Because it would have stolen sales from the 300ZX.

[lflkajfj12123]

because you masturbate at night

now shut the fuck up and fixs whats broken with your celica and be happy with it

or sell your celica and buy a NEW car like a honda fit

done

[Sean P.]

F that noise with 11 grand buy an MKIV Supra.

[ESmorz]

because you masturbate at night

now shut the fuck up and fixs whats broken with your celica and be happy with it

or sell your celica and buy a NEW car like a honda fit

done


I was going to get a Honda Fit.

Then I realized a base model Impreza 5door is only 1k more.

Pickin it up on saturday. Wooo

[projectRDM]

because you masturbate at night

now shut the fuck up and fixs whats broken with your celica and be happy with it

or sell your celica and buy a NEW car like a honda fit

done

There it is.

[silviaslave]

so owning a sr20 and getting my hood popped by popo and them identifying it is automatic impound right? as opposed to getting a fix it ticket? someone clariffy that and i will shut up. since u guys tell me not to get one(thanks for thinking about me honestly) is s14 kouki basic bolt ons a good choice??or RSX-S, s2k, 350z. let me know which car is best for sexyness, reliable, economical, and fast or say decent =[

[svensko]

so owning a sr20 and getting my hood popped by popo and them identifying it is automatic impound right? as opposed to getting a fix it ticket? someone clariffy that and i will shut up. since u guys tell me not to get one(thanks for thinking about me honestly) is s14 kouki basic bolt ons a good choice??or RSX-S, s2k, 350z. let me know which car is best for sexyness, reliable, economical, and fast or say decent =[

You're 18 so get a 96-00 Honda Sedan and put the rest in a savings account. Keep saving and use it as a down payment on a car or house when you get a real job. I'm graduating in May, hopefully going to grad school, and you have no idea what I'd do for $11K. :hahano:

[lflkajfj12123]

You're 18 so get a 96-00 Honda Sedan and put the rest in a savings account. Keep saving and use it as a down payment on a car or house when you get a real job. I'm graduating in May, hopefully going to grad school, and you have no idea what I'd do for $11K. :hahano:

totally agree with this statement

i would love to have 11k right now

[drftem]

dude im in sd also and well i dont need more fucking cops hateing me because i have an sddrift sticker on my car because some dumb ass kid wrecked his s14 that he just bought trying to go mad tight drifting in the canyons of miramar, so do this take that money you have buy an all stock 14 if thats the car you want then get some suspension and some spare rims and tires then go to the first drift event that pops up and learn to do it properly.

[S14DB]

SO, I'm sitting here saying "This thread sure sounds famailar..."


I search and what do you know:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/229876-buying-car-mods.html
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/229251-how-much-would-you-pay-s14.html
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/230499-ka24de-valve-cover-sr20.html
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/229347-what-should-i-ask-know-before-i-buy-s14.html


Bye Bye...