Where do you see you and your S chassis...

[Zen S14]

In another 10 years? The newest S14s are already 10 years old. This site has alot of young guys with old cars and a few old guys with old cars. Unfortunately for us cars do not get better with age like a fine wine by simply sitting.

While I still love my S14, I also deal with the frustration of dealing with ever older and failing parts of my S14. I have no plans to part with it until it totally fail me somehow, but sometimes it is tempting to just move onto something else.

Do you believe you'd still be holding onto a S chassis in another 10 years? Why?

[Shift n Drift]

i see myself keeping my s13 untill forever, they are getting wipped off the earth pretty fast and pretty soon they are gonna be rare, and might be worth a pretty penny,

[Matej]

Skeletons in a tree at your local togue.

[drift freaq]

This question is something that could be speculated upon and answered, though that answer could change down the road.
Honestly I do not expect to be owning a S13 in ten more years. In fact I would be surprised to be owning one 5 years from now. Now a S30Z aka 240z sure. Why? Its the first real Sports car for me. ( I consider the 510 to be a sports sedan). I have friends that the S13 was their first Sports car, and they plan on keeping theirs.
Oh and do not let idiots tell you the S13 is not a Sports car (its an econo car dude) they are clueless idiots. It was a entry level Sports car.

Mind you I might add I have now owned a s13 in one form or another for almost ten years. I will not part with the current car I am building unless someone pays me damn good money for it. So I might wind up owning it longer than I even I expect. :D

[burnsauto]

I'll prob still have mine. I don't plan on tracking my chassis ever..(well, not this one at least, she's my baby. I'll rub her with a diaper and love it.) and I've already put so much money into it, its pointless to try and recoup any of it. I know its not an investment, and I do it out of the enjoyment. I don't think I'll get tired of it. I was thinking about doing a full on restoration of a chassis actually, like that crazy cook over in the UK. We need to keep some for posterity :)

[chibo]

Mine is gone as soon as I find a buyer and I won't be back.

[sillyvia13]

I have 2 s13 chassis I will not part with, If I do someone paying me well for them.

I will not sell my red coupe. I will be buried in it. No doubt, my mom and I had a bonding time with that car. and was very dear to me, to have my mom stand behind me and a dream... she loves the car as much as I!

and my blue car. is my baby atm. I am in middle of rb25 swap right now, like heading down to finish! lol...

I will have a s13 fo life. In the end I will have a tube chassis with a s13 coupe body. with top of line suspension... I love s13's I live s13's I will die in a s13. Unless I find a cheaper easier car to work on build then I may...
lol.

S13 coupe fo life.

[CrazyIvan]

I will keep my s13 forever if possible, it was and has been my 1st sports car forever, and I have countless hours (and money) in it. In stock form it was a POS and if it wasnt for upgrading the whole friggin chassi I probably wouldnt have it right now... selling it would be pointless, if you wanna buy/build another car save your money and buy it that way.

[lflkajfj12123]

probably going to keep it

unless i get a kouki s14 and keep that instead

unless some miracle car comes out that i like

[Flicktitty]

I'm suprised how many of you are planning on "keeping it forever" i'd like to see you guys in 3-5-7-10 years and really see if it all holds true.

[Homer_Simpson]

I will keep my s14 forever. Its not so much the money I've sank into it over the years, its all the things I've been through with it. The only time when I'm going to let it go is after I drive it into the ground.

[racepar1]

My current s-13 will be transformed into a playground or something after I scrap the chasis. I'll probably still have an s-13 though. If everything keeps going the way it is let's just say that the DSG car ain't gunna have shit on mine.

[mrmephistopheles]

I'll have mine forever. I'd love to have a damned fleet of them, to tell the truth, but I'll settle for having a handful.

I'm suprised how many of you are planning on "keeping it forever" i'd like to see you guys in 3-5-7-10 years and really see if it all holds true.

Feel free to check on me. I felt this way in the first year I bought it, and have ever since. This June will make 9 years I've owned my 240sx (and will serve to finally make me the person who has owned my car the longest!).

[CrimsonRockett]

10 years from now, It'll probably be babied in the garage and driven on the weekends.

'09 is the year of change for my car and I.

Trying to do things right this time around.

But, yeah. Like mrmeph said, I wouldn't mind owning a fleet of them. One of each actually.

S13 coupe, S13 fastback, S14 Zenki, S14 Kouki, S13 Silvia(front end converted probably).

Will it happen? Only time can tell.

[racepar1]

10 years from now, It'll probably be babied in the garage and driven on the weekends.

'09 is the year of change for my car and I.

Trying to do things right this time around.

But, yeah. Like mrmeph said, I wouldn't mind owning a fleet of them. One of each actually.

S13 coupe, S13 fastback, S14 Zenki, S14 Kouki, S13 Silvia(front end converted probably).

Will it happen? Only time can tell.

Ya I wanna own all of the s-13's, never have really been an s-14 fan.

s-13 coupe
s-13 vert
s-13 fastback

Each of them built in a different style.

[98koukile]

I'd like to keep this car, ideally I'd like to pick up a Genesis Coupe in a few years, buy a house, and restore the 240 from the ground up. LSx, suspension, audio, everything... put 2-3k on it a year and keep improving

[OKR_240SX]

Mine will be gone as soon as I get someone giving me money for it. the house is being foreclosed, easy answer for money. I'll miss it. But I plan to do another down the road. when I have the money

[LA_phantom_240]

Within that 10 year timeframe, I see my s14's body returning back to stock from damage sometime prior in its life... and being LSx powered.

[flip3d]

10 years? Gone. I'll have already bought something nicer that handles better on the track.

[S13Boosts]

^

lol seriously hahahha 10 years is long its time for an update!

[DALAZ_68]

i just purchased a coupe from a first owner...clean as fuck and un abused...yeah ima keep that for a good while...dont have kids or a wifey, and minor expenses...so whiel i still have time to fuck around i will...why not :coolugh:

can i say ill own it in 10 year.s..i cant...3 years form now,,, probably 5, a lil far off but till will tell

[brndck]

the one i own right now i will not be keeping permanently. its not clean enough. but i will for sure have another coupe after this one, and it will be restored/modified on a toby broadfield level and then kept garaged for sunny weekends only. i'm betting in 10 years z33s will be cheap as shit and i'll bang the piss out of them instead.

[ericcastro]

They will go the way of the Datsun 510.

just follow the path of how those cars have been going, and you have your answer.

*Abundant car.
*ended up with great race history (510 was trans am series, s13 is drifting)
*upgrade parts became readily available.
*Engine swaps became common.
*Got really popular among the young car enthusiest.
*Datsun/Nissan made a model that took its place (Z car and ,....well, Zcar :) )
*the youth started to go towards the newer replacement model as they started showing up used, and were marketed affordable.
*The 510/240sx fans stayed with the car and kept tracking them.
*the price of the car settles.
*Keeping cars in mint condition with all original parts became/becomes popular.
*some youth still enjoy the car and build them
*the price of the car starts to rise.
*the older guys start bringing the cars out only for events and show and shines.
*cheap parts for the cars disapears as aftermarket support dwindles, leaving only quality, yet pricey parts.
*Nissan 240sx takes over the datsun 510 meet at Shasta.
*the "spook" or front "lip" becomes a sought after item.
*Original "tacks"/"HUD's" get really expensive.
*Most owners enjoy building the cars, and the occational "spirited" sunday drive.
*Alot of 240sx projects are sold because another baby is on the way.
*most owners watch the remaining 240sx's that are tracked over their forums and mailing list.


soooo,..... did i miss anything??
lol




I'll have mine forever. I'd love to have a damned fleet of them, to tell the truth, but I'll settle for having a handful.

I bought replacement gauges for a 510 about 12 years ago. When I showed up at the guys trailer in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere WA,
He had a fleet of datsun 510's
Over 16 of them!!!
some running , some not, but all in Decent or better condition.

it was amazing.
I've been fortunate enough to meet alot of "famous" people.
From Tarintino to Christian Bale.
can't tell you much about those meetings.
But I remember everything about my Datsun 510 day. From the guys sweater, to the lattice around the bottom of his raised brown trailer.
.lol



guess that's you in about 12 more years ;)

(minus the trailer lol.)




edit:fixed it ESmorz, comp was acting up during my post :)

[ESmorz]

^ You mentioned the sweater.

As for me.

In the hands of whoever buys it from me. At the going rate I would say it will be in a scrap yard because it got wrapped around a light pole.

[soreballz]

I reeeeeeeeally doubt I'll still have my S13 in ten years. I probably won't have any 240, or other Nissan for that matter, in ten years. In ten years, I'll either be dead, or balls deep into a '56 Buick Special.

But, if for some silly reason I do still have it in ten years, it will be powered by an turbo'd LS2.

[ESmorz]

or balls deep into a '56 Buick Special

That's whats up.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Im commited to an S-chassis for a while. Considering I got a freshly built SR that will need a chassis in to transplant into in 2-3 yrs...yah ill be in one still. Question is how long before I say fuck you and get a Z33 or G35/357.

[Om1kron]

if it's not stolen, the world ends, or destroyed from street/track driving.

I'll still have it.

[mademedoit]

5 years from now an 08 gtr engine swap should be affordable, but I'll want some kind of 4wd electric dd by then. I'll never sell the 240... just hope I don't crash it or get jacked!

[chibo]

the one i own right now i will not be keeping permanently. its not clean enough. but i will for sure have another coupe after this one, and it will be restored/modified on a toby broadfield level and then kept garaged for sunny weekends only. i'm betting in 10 years z33s will be cheap as shit and i'll bang the piss out of them instead.

Z33's are already cheap. :coolugh:

[sideways_s14]

10 years from now, I'll probably still have mine, but with a newer daily driver as well. I'll then make this my late-night weekend, get away for a bit and remember how fun an electronically un-assisted, lightweight chassis, no airbags everywhere in the car that (knocks on wood) I will never need, driving used to be :p This is my 3rd s14, and no matter what I buy, had an '99 eclipse gst, 2 evos, an FD rx-7, 350z, I still wind up coming back to it. It was the first car I actually sought after when I was coming of driving age back in '96, and liked them ever since. I kind of compare my affinity to those older cats that drive around in their old '65+ mustangs, challengers, camaros, 'cudas, novas, dusters, etc. Though it may not have the long heritage of one of those classic cars(atleast here in the states, s-chassis been around since 1964 in japan), this car, as far as my generation goes, is and will be a classic. I wouldn't sell it for the simple fact I won't get what I put into it, and, 9 times out of 10, the only people that usually buy them now are the freshly licensed kids enchanted by drifting, and, 9 times out of 10, you know how that goes :Ownedd:

[handinpants]

Do you believe you'd still be holding onto a S chassis in another 10 years? Why?

I doubt i will have my same s13 chassis in 10 years. mainly because i feel that it is more of a liability than an asset. where as it is costing me more money than making me money. I like my money to work for me, not against me. in 10 years time all i want is to be alive.

[unlegendary]

in the future my s-chassis will fly and shoot stuff

...i'll probably put a vq35de or possibly the gtr engine who knows in it, upgrade all suspension parts, keep it maintained year after year, then give it to my kid. unless we get the technology to fly and shoot stuff.

[svensko]

Plan to rebuild the engine, and replace the suspension for grad school, so there's at least 6 years of use with that. After school I'll probably retire it to track status with a VQ35 or something and buy something newer, but not too nice (C5, Elise, 350Z?). I'd like to eventually own a GT-R, so maybe I'll just start saving for one of those at that point. :o

[YoungGun]

+1 for the z33 option.

In ten years my car will be parted and long gone (if not crashed), then I will pick up a z33 for drift.

[LoanShark]

I'm going to be like old Biff from BTTF2.

''a 240? I haven't seen one them in...30 years''

Honestly, in my line of work, i put MAYBE 4000mi/yr on the daily while the 240 stays garaged and driven a few times a month. With the absurd amount of resto/upgrade work done, I dont see myself getting rid of it.

I'll be the cool uncle with the japanese hot rod in the garage. I dont mind.

[Phlip]

I plan to keep mine, get a daily and restore the coupe for prosperity.
I mean, it won't be like my neighbors and their '70 Malibu, '69 Camaro and '70 Buick Wildcat, but our generation really doesn't have any such cars, so my S13 will be that car I might be tinkering with in my 40's while I drive another car on the daily.

[SimpleS14]

No longer with me unless I'm stacked and have money to burn.

[ThatGuy]

I already have a daily driver and my 240 is in storage, thus it will stay. I will continue to work on my car, until I am no longer able to, and drive it whenever I can. As I see it, I will have it, among other projects, for a good long time.

[drunkmunky]

wonder if you'll see people bidding 80g for an s13 40 years down the road on barett Jackson

[ROGER]

this reminded me of my plans for my own car. when i bought the thing in 2000, i didnt see that many of them to begin with (around my area anyways), then i met some guys that became good friends, and my best friend bought one, and then there was a a swell of them aroun 04-05 or so when drifting seemed to come on strong. now its back to how it was when i first bought the car, barely see any around. i will have mine indefinitely, only a major wreck at this point would get me out of ownership. i hope to, like another poster said, pick up a genesis coupe after i finish school next year and then take my S14 off the road and go all the way through it. i'd like to get it pretty much factory fresh as far as appearance concerned , then an LSx swap. the way the car industry is going i think it will be refreshing to have a (fairly) basic real "car" u can enjoy on weekends thats fun to drive and not overtly computerized. newer cars seem to be heading the way of appliances more so than ever. this cars will prolly be the target cars for overhaulin in 15 years, lol




They will go the way of the Datsun 510.

just follow the path of how those cars have been going, and you have your answer.

*Abundant car.
*ended up with great race history (510 was trans am series, s13 is drifting)
*upgrade parts became readily available.
*Engine swaps became common.
*Got really popular among the young car enthusiest.
*Datsun/Nissan made a model that took its place (Z car and ,....well, Zcar :) )
*the youth started to go towards the newer replacement model as they started showing up used, and were marketed affordable.
*The 510/240sx fans stayed with the car and kept tracking them.
*the price of the car settles.
*Keeping cars in mint condition with all original parts became/becomes popular.
*some youth still enjoy the car and build them
*the price of the car starts to rise.
*the older guys start bringing the cars out only for events and show and shines.
*cheap parts for the cars disapears as aftermarket support dwindles, leaving only quality, yet pricey parts.
*Nissan 240sx takes over the datsun 510 meet at Shasta.
*the "spook" or front "lip" becomes a sought after item.
*Original "tacks"/"HUD's" get really expensive.
*Most owners enjoy building the cars, and the occational "spirited" sunday drive.
*Alot of 240sx projects are sold because another baby is on the way.
*most owners watch the remaining 240sx's that are tracked over their forums and mailing list.


soooo,..... did i miss anything??
lol





I bought replacement gauges for a 510 about 12 years ago. When I showed up at the guys trailer in the middle of the woods in the middle of nowhere WA,
He had a fleet of datsun 510's
Over 16 of them!!!
some running , some not, but all in Decent or better condition.

it was amazing.
I've been fortunate enough to meet alot of "famous" people.
From Tarintino to Christian Bale.
can't tell you much about those meetings.
But I remember everything about my Datsun 510 day. From the guys sweater, to the lattice around the bottom of his raised brown trailer.
.lol



guess that's you in about 12 more years ;)

(minus the trailer lol.)




edit:fixed it ESmorz, comp was acting up during my post :)

[INeedNewTires]

wonder if you'll see people bidding 80g for an s13 40 years down the road on barett Jackson

well "Full-Lock" on here just sold his for 45k.... so i dont see a well built, clean, and full interior car like his getting any less valuable. Thats kindof the goal i'm setting for mine so that in 20 or 30 years i'll have something that has actually appreciated rather than depreciated.

I also recently purchased a vehicle as an investment for barret jackson. Its an origonal owner 91 Cadillac Sedan Deville. An 86yr old lady drove it to church and the grocery store once a week for 18 years. I picked it up for 700 bucks, and it is the definition of MINT. So i'm hoping in another 20 years or so its worth upwards of 20 to 30k

To answer your question i will have my kouki forever, or until i'm bored of it and its worth considerably more than i have invested into it.

[Silverbullet]

My S14 i'd like to have forever.
My s13 is like a disposable car drift car. It'll be too fucked up one day to fix. I don't see me having it for another decade lol.

Possible future drift cars: RX-8, Miata, S2000, 350Z? Genesis, Sky and Solstices are still too new.

[JohnJohn86]

I had a AE86 a few years ago that I thought I would never sell it. However, as it was getting older and older and other cars are getting faster and faster on the track, I just had to move on.

That's when I got my S14. I just bought a 04 S2000 and it's pretty nice. I am still keeping the S14 for now.

may be someday when the Z or G is cheap enough, I would move on as well.

[s13dan]

my hatch ill never part with, hell i might just hord another one.
I might see myself in a genisis coupe possilby.
But ill still have the S chassis.

Im my opinion the S chassis price will go up dramatically. Prople are hording them and just think of how many are being made into race/drift cars. Think of how many have gotten totaled by young drivers. Its only a matter of time. The price will rise slow and steady. So in ten years? I will hopfully have at least my S13. And maybe a real nice stock one, with intentions to keep virgin as posible.

[trsilvias13]

I will keep my kouki forever. Matching vins everywhere.

[svensko]

I plan to keep mine, get a daily and restore the coupe for prosperity.
I mean, it won't be like my neighbors and their '70 Malibu, '69 Camaro and '70 Buick Wildcat, but our generation really doesn't have any such cars, so my S13 will be that car I might be tinkering with in my 40's while I drive another car on the daily.

MKIV Supra, Evo 8, STI, Integra Type R, FD3S, etc etc

Clean, stock examples of these cars will probably fetch nice change down the road.

[juice.def]

Dont know if ill have the same one but deffenetly have an s-chassis hopefully in my garage at a home im working on owning with a nice wife and maybe a mini me....

[Teddy]

Honestly, I give it another 5 years before I'm over this. Z33 sounds like a great option.

[Dousan_PG]

im in way too deep now to change haha
id have to total it and basically take a loss on the big expsnive items (specifically the motor) before i get into another car haha
oh well
i like my car

[S13_Nightkid]

Ive had my coupe for 2 years already and keeping up with the shit falling apart is a pain in the ass and I still love it. I want to learn how to drift also i guess.

I prefer the Z33 option though=]

[allmotorKA]

They will go the way of the Datsun 510.

just follow the path of how those cars have been going, and you have your answer.

*Abundant car.
*ended up with great race history (510 was trans am series, s13 is drifting)
*upgrade parts became readily available.
*Engine swaps became common.
*Got really popular among the young car enthusiest.
*Datsun/Nissan made a model that took its place (Z car and ,....well, Zcar :) )
*the youth started to go towards the newer replacement model as they started showing up used, and were marketed affordable.
*The 510/240sx fans stayed with the car and kept tracking them.
*the price of the car settles.
*Keeping cars in mint condition with all original parts became/becomes popular.
*some youth still enjoy the car and build them
*the price of the car starts to rise.
*the older guys start bringing the cars out only for events and show and shines.
*cheap parts for the cars disapears as aftermarket support dwindles, leaving only quality, yet pricey parts.
*Nissan 240sx takes over the datsun 510 meet at Shasta.
*the "spook" or front "lip" becomes a sought after item.
*Original "tacks"/"HUD's" get really expensive.
*Most owners enjoy building the cars, and the occational "spirited" sunday drive.
*Alot of 240sx projects are sold because another baby is on the way.
*most owners watch the remaining 240sx's that are tracked over their forums and mailing list.

ericcastro has seen the future...

I will have my S13 hatch probably till I die...I've already had it over 19 years...

[98koukile]

MKIV Supra, Evo 8, STI, Integra Type R, FD3S, etc etc

Clean, stock examples of these cars will probably fetch nice change down the road.

I agree with everything except the Evo and Sti... too prevalent. 98 MKIV Supra, ITR, and 97-98 240sx combined US sales are probably less than the Sti or Evo of any year

[svensko]

I agree with everything except the Evo and Sti... too prevalent. 98 MKIV Supra, ITR, and 97-98 240sx combined US sales are probably less than the Sti or Evo of any year

True, but I doubt the number produced defines desire. There were THOUSANDS of Camaros produced monthly between 1967-1969 yet they are still highly desirable. It's not about how rare they are. It's instead about how many survive. I bet there's a "Oops, tree got in my way" thread daily on the Evo forums. :ddog:

[Xbroke_kidX]

I wont sell it, Ill keep it untill i drive it into the ground. Then Ill hopefully have the money to build a sick 4 door vip/drift car

[ericcastro]

ericcastro has seen the future...

I will have my S13 hatch probably till I die...I've already had it over 19 years...


LOL, thanks :)

The Nissan 240sx is basically the Datsun 510, just years later with a whole new group of guys into them. lol

History repeating itself??? lol

[Brian]

In 10 years I sure as hell won't have a 240sx.
FACT.

[SR2Zero]

I don't like to think about this. And/Or money I've spent on this car. I've wasted a majority of my youth working to buy rwd car, different motor, and always trying to be bigger/better/faster.

Do I wish I would have ever bought my 240? Actually.. probably not. In 10 years, I see myself far far from my 240.

[ESmorz]

I will keep my kouki forever. Matching vins everywhere.

That's not exactly something to be proud of.

My 93 Coupe has matching vins too, wooopdie dooo.

[Bubbles]

Unless there's an(other) unexpected change I won't have mine 10 weeks from now.

I don't want to build a car until I can do it properly without it affecting my real life.

So it's probably gonna go.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

face down in a drained pool somewhere

[BoostedCoupe]

10 years from now, It'll probably be babied in the garage and driven on the weekends.

'09 is the year of change for my car and I.

Trying to do things right this time around.

But, yeah. Like mrmeph said, I wouldn't mind owning a fleet of them. One of each actually.

S13 coupe, S13 fastback, S14 Zenki, S14 Kouki, S13 Silvia(front end converted probably).

Will it happen? Only time can tell.
i'm the same way, i have always said i want to own one of each. All with wheels and lowered and 5speed at the least. i own a 95 and a vert right now only need 3 more.

[projectRDM]

In 10 years I'll be driving at the very least an IS-F, RS6, or something nice, hopefully way sooner than that. While it's great to be sentimental about shit, it is just a car. Nothing more. All the blood, sweat, and tears really won't mean a thing down the road, not enough to warrant keeping a car that's loud, rough, scares woman away, and will be impossible to get parts for by then. Not to mention being plagued forever by the stigma of the ricers, the drifters, thieves, and the 14yr old boys jacking off to them.

Would any of you want to own a Civic in 10 years? Exactly.

[Bubbles]

With any luck I won't be alive in ten years.

[ESmorz]

Would any of you want to own a Civic in 10 years? Exactly.

Why not they will still be running.

:cj:

With any luck I won't be alive in ten years.

Drink that Kool-Aid bitch

[lflkajfj12123]

I'm suprised how many of you are planning on "keeping it forever" i'd like to see you guys in 3-5-7-10 years and really see if it all holds true.

really don't believe it the gtfo

some people see the z33 as "moving up" but i don't have any desire for one

the only Z i have ever liked is nevalands black one on 19inch equips

5 years and my car is considered a classic

might as well keep it until then and make more than 2 grand on it

just like the ae86's sell for retarded prices now

i really like the styling of 90's cars in general and i plan on restoring this car completely

[projectRDM]

A Z33 was considered moving up in 2003. Now that they're cheap though they're just as molested and flooded with trolls as our cars. The difference is Z owners have at least another year under their belt of being jackasses before they open up their ignorance on a forum.

[turtl631]

I'll probably keep mine for a long time just as a weekend/track car, assuming I have the space to store it. 10 years...probably not that long. I'd rather have an FD but they cost like 3 times as much as a 240sx to build up as a track car.

[JRas]

I'd like to retire the S14 for track use, and get a newer R6.

I love my car, but it will never get to where I want it to be, because of the downtime needed.

I'd keep the car KA and worry about that later down the road...

[ChicagoS14]

I'm planning on keeping my S14 as long as I can. And even if it will no longer be useful id rather use is as lawn ornament or my future coffin then junk it. But who knows. Thats just plans. Id love to keep it around and drive it for as long as possible but the future is uncertain and no matter what I plan on doing things can change.

If old school muscle cars were able to survive I'm sure S chassis cars will be able to as well. I already stopped daily driving my S14 and I'm doing what I can to preserve it. Don't get me wrong, im not gonna just let the car sit there since that's a waste. I drive it when its nice out, I use it to its full potential when its appropriate and I beat on it once in a while to get my fun out of it. But I don't daily drive it because I don't want unnecessary stress and wear on it.

My S13 on the other hand that's another story LOL

[ChicagoS14]

i'm the same way, i have always said i want to own one of each. All with wheels and lowered and 5speed at the least. i own a 95 and a vert right now only need 3 more.

Same here, one day when I can afford the storage ill pick up a mint S13 and hopefully repaint my S14 to freshen it up a bit and replace a few things on it while they are still available.

I really don't like too many new cars. At least not ones I can afford. Majority of the new cars (excluding high end exotics and luxury cars such as Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, etc) are pretty boring, sure they have lots of gadgets but most of them are just power robbing gas guzzling accessories that brake more often then they should. And Z33s are not really upgrades in my book. Sure they are a bit faster then stock KA powered 240s (barely match a bolt on SR powered S-chassis) are newer and a bit more comfortable, but im not very thrilled about their looks and id much rather drive a Z32 any day, its got more character.

The new Z33s feel and look pretty generic, they dont offer anything timeless compared to Z32s which came out in 1989 and had performance and technology that still hold their own today. I drove my buddies 03 350 and it the interior quality and lay out kinda scared me..... performance was okay, torquey and nice exhaust tone but nothing to cream over. Aside from having a love for Nissans I have huge respect for DSMs as my closest friends have addicted me to them and made me a DSM-er. Id much rather own a 1st gen 91-92 GSX then a 350Z. Because anyone that drove a well built GSX, even one with a few bolt ons, knows that it will pretty much eat anything out there. But enough of my rambling.

It all boils down to whether or not you value your car and or car to keep it for that long. Some people change cars very often, others drive them till they fall apart. I wouldn't want to daily drive my car forever but Id love to keep it as a fun car for the weekends. I have contemplated about getting rid of it but came to the conclusion that I really love it despite many shortcomings. The only cars I would get rid of it for would be a MKIV Supra, an RX7, NSX or Skyline GT-R (and obviously any high end exotic) maybe even a Z06 Vette. But considering its been paid off in cash since 2004 and it doesnt cost much to maintain I can afford to keep it while having another more comfortable and luxurious car to daily drive and I can always sell that one to get another car and so one so forth while keeping this one around.

Man I just rambled LOL

[93nismo]

i got my 240 just cuz my Z was a shit bucket. my heart lies with the 300zx and any z for that matter but in 10 years if ive got a house and i can support myself... and i acctualy end up in auto shit, i want a nova. my dad had 1 and always told me he wished he still did, long story. anyway. ive always wanted 1 and im all for muscle. but as far as the 240 goes, its a car to learn on. i dont haven intentions on tracking it cuz its not fast enough and i dont have the time or the money to do that... and u no, dont wanna loose my only car. :P

however, i do like fuckin around on the street every once in a while :)

[JRas]

If everything keeps going the way it is let's just say that the DSG car ain't gunna have shit on mine.

I have the same dreams/goals realistic or not :)

I'd like to keep this car, ideally I'd like to pick up a Genesis Coupe in a few years, buy a house, and restore the 240 from the ground up. LSx, suspension, audio, everything... put 2-3k on it a year and keep improving

Genesis Coupe is nice but not really proven. If that's the angle you were taking I'd wait for the new Silvia... if that ever comes out.

A Z33 was considered moving up in 2003. Now that they're cheap though they're just as molested and flooded with trolls as our cars. The difference is Z owners have at least another year under their belt of being jackasses before they open up their ignorance on a forum.

thing that bugs me about Z33 and G owners is the majority of the owners are just average people. I like the fact when I see a 240 driving on the street chances are they are an enthusiast.

I can see Z33's and G's becoming big, but will they ever be considered a enthusiast's car? I'm not so sure.. plus the amount of these cars sold.. I'm guessing is far greater than the 240sx.

I'm going to keep my S14, until I feel it's time to upgrade, because lets be honest the 240 is not the end all, be all, greatest. It was a great first car for me and I don't regret it at all.

I can see myself getting an EVO, NSX, GTR ( R32-R34 ), E36-E46 M3, among others

sad thing is all I think about in cars is will it make a good track car :smash:

"I wanna go fast!"

[HemiCharger]

old guy with an old 240zx s14 except when I first owned these cars I was a younger guy with a newer 2 or 3 year old car. Getting old for people and cars sucks.

[drift freaq]

[QUOTE=ericcastro;2548074]They will go the way of the Datsun 510.

just follow the path of how those cars have been going, and you have your answer.

*Abundant car.
*ended up with great race history (510 was trans am series, s13 is drifting)
*upgrade parts became readily available.
*Engine swaps became common.
*Got really popular among the young car enthusiest.
*Datsun/Nissan made a model that took its place (Z car and ,....well, Zcar :) )
snip happens......


ah Eric hate to disrupt your daydream but the 240Z was campaigned in racing at the exact same time the 510 was. The 310 and 311 Roadsters were the cars the Z replaced. Plus the Z won as many championships as the 510 did and more. I owned both loved both. In the end the 510 well just never be the same catagory as the 240Z. You are right that the 240sx while become like the 510 a collectors item to some but for the most part never a Classic like the 240Z or the RX7 FD. In Japan? Yes. In the states no. Blame it on Nissan not marketing the car properly its just the truth.

Oh and for anyone discounting the collectability of a certain car it really has no bearing on how many were sold. Nissan sold so many 510's it was nuts they were everywhere. They also sold over 150,000 240Z's. For Sports cars the only other Sports car sold in American with numbers bigger was the Miata and yes those will become classics as well.
It takes certain things in the publics perspective to turn a car into a collectable classic. Roadsters,240Z's, RX7 FD's, Miata's, MKIV Supra's, NSX's will all go into this catagory. 510's 240sx's? most likely not , again like I said earlier all due to how the cars were marketed. The 510 was marketed as family car, not the BMW beating Sports Sedan it really was. The 240sx was market as a dumbed down entry level sports car aimed at secretaries and whatnot in part because of Nissan North America's fear of it overshadowing Z32 sales.

The 350Z has the potential to turn into a classic because it marked the return of the Z to the Nissan fold. The 370 has the potential because it finally brought back the 240Z heritage in its body lines. The GTR is pretty much a no brainer it will be a classic.

My own plans lean towards owning Classics. Like I said earlier a 240Z would be a car I would own and never sell. I once had ten of them. I sold them, I actually wish I had at least kept one. I am working on finding the right one to buy and own again.

[98koukile]

Genesis Coupe is nice but not really proven. If that's the angle you were taking I'd wait for the new Silvia... if that ever comes out.

I just want one as a daily driver... oh and, they designed the EVO X engine and the new chassis for Nascar... so the technology has proven itself, just not in mass production. The only thing that will suck about that car is that parts wise its going to follow the same path as the 350z... chassis, motor, exhaust parts will all have to be specifically made for that car, increasing cost. I don't care, I'll be too busy modding the 240 unless that car really proves itself

[slideways2004]

probably be into S chassis for max of 4-5 years. then probably move onto z33

the hyundai genesis looks kinda cool
especially this one with the te37
Genesis Coupe- Video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Genesis-Coupe_208071.htm)

[illvialuver]

This is a good question. I think about this often, and every time I do the answer is the same, yes I will have it. I totaled my first s14 and went out an bought another one. I did not plan on getting rid of the first one, but it was not up to me, it was up to the ass the pulled out in front of me. So I do not plan on getting rid of my 2nd one. I made a rule for myself, there really is no point in me selling my car that I love and am not finished with( Because once I sell it I know I will regret it, and have to buy another one and start all over) the rule is if I cant afford to buy another car without haveing to sell my s14, than I do not need another car. In 10 years I will be the 35 year old guy with a hooked up clean as clean can be s14. I will always have it.

[drftmark]

Any chance of the value of one to go up ANYWHERE down the road? I am talking 5+ yrs? Sort of like how the FD has become more rare and they just seem to be really expensive. Not to mention they are a little nicer car also.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Any chance of the value of one to go up ANYWHERE down the road? I am talking 5+ yrs? Sort of like how the FD has become more rare and they just seem to be really expensive. Not to mention they are a little nicer car also.

No, your comparing a sports coupe to a legit sports car. Apples and Oranges. I think the last couple of years has been the peak of S-chassis in the states (pricing wise and thank fucking god). With the economy going down the shitter, people are getting desperate to get rid of their cars. Its nice to see S14s dropping for less than $5k again and some even going $3k.

Another thing that you seem to forget is that, there isnt alot of FDs to begin with in the states. 92/93-95, there isnt a whole lot of years when they were sold to begin with. No matter how many S-chassis gets wrecked left and right, there will always be more of them around than FDs, Supras, MR2s, or any other 90s JDM sports car or sports coupe.

[sideways_s14]

If we're lucky, within the next 5 years the new 240 replacement may be out, keep hope alive...

[svensko]

If we're lucky, within the next 5 years the new 240 replacement may be out, keep hope alive...

Yeah, only 3500 lbs with 15 airbags, and probably FWD. :keke::-/

[upSLIDEdown]

Kinda hard to speculate about stuff like this, but I'm pretty damn sure I'll own mine for a LONG time. I was here before the bandwagon started, and I'll be here when it's done. I have yet to drive a car that I enjoy driving as much as I like driving this car. Maybe that's because I haven't driven a lot of nicer, fast cars, but I can't afford them at this point anyway, so that doesn't matter.

:2c:

[trsilvias13]

That's not exactly something to be proud of.

My 93 Coupe has matching vins too, wooopdie dooo.

Really?
I thought 93 dont have vins everywhere such as the fender, door, quarter panel, trunk, hood etc.. I even have vins on my front grill.

Why isnt it something to be proud of? I kept my car in pretty good condition with no accidents and I track it here and there. I am pretty proud of it.

[ManoNegra]

I don't really plan on getting rid of my 240s
I tried to but I keep coming back
get rid of the dd Corolla and maybe get a Z33 or G35...
dunno, I'll keep doing this until I get no more enjoyment out it

[98koukile]

No, your comparing a sports coupe to a legit sports car. Apples and Oranges. I think the last couple of years has been the peak of S-chassis in the states (pricing wise and thank fucking god). With the economy going down the shitter, people are getting desperate to get rid of their cars. Its nice to see S14s dropping for less than $5k again and some even going $3k.

Another thing that you seem to forget is that, there isnt alot of FDs to begin with in the states. 92/93-95, there isnt a whole lot of years when they were sold to begin with. No matter how many S-chassis gets wrecked left and right, there will always be more of them around than FDs, Supras, MR2s, or any other 90s JDM sports car or sports coupe.
You can't just compare an fd with a 240, a kouki is more rare than an s13, and I think people just group all our cars together. I know people outside the nissan community regard my car differently than most 240s

[ANVIL]

it took me 4 years to get my car where it is right now, which isnt very far. so 10 more years i might actually have the car to where i want it. i dont see myself getting rid of it, like a lot of people said, i just cant get back what i put into it and ive really barely touched it. if i ever do get rid of it, it will most likely be for a s14 kouki, LS swapped. but in 10 years, i may have both. i consider my truck (01 C3) my "nice" vehicle which is payed off next year so i can afford to get a "nice" car if i want and not have any issues or desires to get rid of my 240. my h22 civic on the other hand, i dont even see myself having it for more than 2 more years.. ill probablly get rid of it before next winter.

[ByeByeSti]

in 10 years??? well im pretty sure i wont have this s14 anymore unlesss i do a seriously restoration on it.i mean its coming along pretty good but theres still way to much. pillars are all rusted out which im trying to fix, rear quarters were junk so i got over fenders and molded after cutting some of them out... rockers are gone. id like to pick up a legit 98 kouki though sometime and keep that for some time though without a doubt

[Bow]

Well, considering I bought my '91 Hatch in '97 (I'm the 3rd owner), and for the past 6 years it has only been a weekend/fun car....

I figure I'll get rid of it after they cut me out of it... and then I pull all my parts off it and figure out what to do from there...

At 24 years, it gets exempted from emissions testing in Texas... 6 years to go before the real fun begins

[5150Fab]

in 10 years i hope to have a bunch of cars for a race/drift team. Probably have an s14 of my dreamzzz.

Ill honestly probably be driving an turbo is300.

[98koukile]

The one thing that sucks about MA is that OBD2, no matter how old, will never be emissions exempt. If I ever did find a pristine 95 I would buy it in a heartbeat and swap over everything I like from my current car then start on a motor

[WhiteGLX]

I see me probobly totaling my S13 racecar inside of 10 years at VIR during my 6th year of W2W racing, or something along those lines. Its not going to be the end-all live for chassis anyways, its a fun to drive car, but not great by anymeans. Of course i dont count on it ending like that, but its just the way racing goes, people wreck and old cars are expensive to fully repair....maybe ill end up selling it to some soon-to-be racer, or wanna-be drifter....who knows.

[Markdawg20]

I'll probably sell both of mine when I graduate college and get a '03 or '04 Cobra and put a Kenne Bell or something cool on it.

[muddafakka]

I'm going to keep my vert for as long as I can. Will I keep it forever? Who knows. I want to see how things go before I say such a thing.

It's still in fairly good condition and it's only at 94,XXX.

I've had thoughts of selling it time and time again but fuck it, it stays.

I'd like to pick up an S13 coupe later down the road and if that falls though, I'll settle for a hatch. S14s are nice but I've always had a thing for S13s.

If I ever make some real money, I'd like to get one or more of these:
1970 Datsun 240Z
1987 Buick Grand National (w/ WE4 package)
1969 Chevy Camaro SS
1968-1970 Plymouth Roadrunner or Dodge Charger
1970 Buick GS 455 Stage 1

Yeah, that list is probably unrealistic but it doesn't hurt to dream I guess.

Oh yeah, an NA or NB Miata would be nice as well.

[lucky7]

first chance i get, im dumping my shit for one of these:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/images/Product_icons/M5.JPG

that or something else M.

age isnt all that big of an issue. i have 3 cars to drive in the summer months, and my daily was built in 12/86. my S14 has 50k on it. i drive a '08 ram to work. reliability isnt a priority for me right now. which is nice. someday i know it will be though. oh, and for the record. i plan on keeping my E30 far longer than my S14.

[JRas]

first chance i get, im dumping my shit for one of these:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/images/Product_icons/M5.JPG

that or something else M.

age isnt all that big of an issue. i have 3 cars to drive in the summer months, and my daily was built in 12/86. my S14 has 50k on it. i drive a '08 ram to work. reliability isnt a priority for me right now. which is nice. someday i know it will be though. oh, and for the record. i plan on keeping my E30 far longer than my S14.

sold out on us :P

ever since you got that E30, the 240sx hasn't been the same huh

I'm just messing.. I like BMW's :wiggle:

[lucky7]

hahaha, it was bound to happen. i got my first E30 when i was 14. i just got distracted along the way. :bigok: my 2nd car was an '88 750IL. 5.0 V12, bishes. actually, i ended up buying my S14 over a mint, '95, boston green M3. if i had bought that, it would have a GT30 on it, and some LM's. oh well. i wont be getting rid of my car for a few more years though. unless i get an offer i cant refuse, lol. an M car has been my dream since i was 14. it will be my graduation present to myself. i dont really care what year/model it is either. lol.

for now though, my S is plenty of fun. i sometimes think my close friends like it more than i do though. lol.

oh, and i think im sick. i'd prob DD an M5, and keep the E30 to build. full suspension, Euro S52 N/A build. theres a guy on a few forums that has a cammed euro motor. made i think 360 N/A hp. sonnnn. i should try to find a pic of his M3. its stunning.

[lucky7]

fuck it, he builds some sick ass E30's.

before:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/vlad-e30m3/my-M3-Cabrio-Project/cabrio004.jpg

after.. M3 widebody kit, LM's, S52 (E36 M3 motor), etc, etc, etc, etc.
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/vlad-e30m3/Performance-BMW-Photo-shoot/e30_269_std.jpg

[lucky7]

found it! i lied, its got 380hp...



new rims, newly repainted Valve cover and strut bar. Car is sick, I have no words to describe the power and the torque. Drove it today for the first time and all I can say - OMG.... the acceleration is out of this world, 380HP is no joke...

this is today:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0171142727591.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0231142727692.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0191142727832.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0261142727884.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0281142727941.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads7/3+18+06+0081142727534.jpg

next step - smoked headlights go back in, Mcoupe rear diff cover, new wheel bearings, new rear bushings and... Digital Motec dash cluster

no joke.

oh, also his..
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/vlad-e30m3/Porsche%20911%20RSR/porsche_219_std.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/vlad-e30m3/Porsche%20911%20RSR/porsche_159_std.jpg

this is one of the reasons i decided to go back to college this year. haha.

[thesimpleS13]

Im kinda hoping i still have my car in the next ten years, but with the way its looking now, i really don't even know if it'll last ten more years haha. if anything in ten years i'd hope to have a Infiniti M45
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j69/user1341/17_full.jpg

[littlekid]

i have an s13 its actually been in the family since it came out in 89 so i plan on keeping it for as long as possible. gotta love my mom for buying this car. she rear ended some one a while ago then i took it over. she still loves to drive it actually until she dented my oil pan now i dont let her haha

[jbuckley]

hopefully in something way nicer

[BoroDrifter]

I have had my S13 for 5 years. Unless it's wrecked I don't plan on getting rid of it.

[xsidewayzx]

yes, because my son is into drifting and i think if i continue doing what i'm doing he would be set when he gets older. hes only 11 but he is amazed with cars going sideways.

[lunatyk]

I plan on keeping it forever considering it was my first car and I put too much time and money into it already. I rather keep it and get another car later on as well, much later on though.

[mrmephistopheles]

guess that's you in about 12 more years ;)


I'm not allowed to tell you how many I currently own. :keke:

yes, because my son is into drifting and i think if i continue doing what i'm doing he would be set when he gets older. hes only 11 but he is amazed with cars going sideways.

So you had your son when you were 14?

[SexPanda]

in 10 years I hope to have a nice s chassis and a nice BMW something. Prolly gonna be a land yacht Im not gonna lie. Alpina B7 oooooooh yeah.

And with how bmw's depriciate I should be able to pick one up for like 15 grand! lol.

[INeedNewTires]

yes, because my son is into drifting and i think if i continue doing what i'm doing he would be set when he gets older. hes only 11 but he is amazed with cars going sideways.

wait, your 25 and have an 11 yr old kid? is he really yours or did is he like your wife's from a previous? or adopted? j/w not tryin to be nosey.... pretty cool though get em started young and they'll be better than most people in their 20s

[KA24DESOneThree]

In five years: Sorting the LS6 and tweaking the suspension.

In ten years: On the Continent, lapping the 'Ring for the 50th time and rolling into Monaco with something that'll put all the new Ferraris to shame on a road course.

In fifteen years: On the Continent, lapping the 'Ring for the 100th time and rolling into Monaco with something that'll put all the new electric Ferraris to shame on a road course.

In twenty years: Paying Shell under the table for some of their gas reserves to get around the outrageous gas taxes.

In forty years: Paying Shell under the table for some now-outlawed gasoline.

In fifty years: Armor plated, with quad .50s mounted on the sides and a Merlin aluminum-block 540 under the hood.

[deukalionS14]

I wont be getting rid of mine ever to tell you the truth...I grew up around 180sx's and Silvia's...when i came back to the states i had to buy one and build it...

What if i wreck it? take all salvageable parts and place them in another S14. no worries. i'm buying a couple more 240's in the next couple ears any way...fuck it man..keep the dream alive..

[SimpleS14]

So you had your son when you were 14?

lol

In all seriousness, I'm going to take a wild guess and say it's a stepchild or adopted.

[MomentumGT]

In another 10 years? The newest S14s are already 10 years old. This site has alot of young guys with old cars and a few old guys with old cars. Unfortunately for us cars do not get better with age like a fine wine by simply sitting.

While I still love my S14, I also deal with the frustration of dealing with ever older and failing parts of my S14. I have no plans to part with it until it totally fail me somehow, but sometimes it is tempting to just move onto something else.

Do you believe you'd still be holding onto a S chassis in another 10 years? Why?

I have sold pretty much all of them except our race car. And that was on the chopping block as well before Thanksgiving :(. At first I never thought I would be selling any of my cars, s13 & s14 included, but people move on. LOL. A couple of years ago I just could not see myself driving an s-chassis on the street any longer. I keep the race car around just because its relatively cheap to maintain and to work on. If an opportunity arouse to sell of the car in hopes to buy another race car on my list to own. . . I'd do it in a heart beat.

-Jon

[LoanShark]

There was a column in a Car Kulture Deluxe mag about ''keepers.''

It was basically talking about how todays society lacks the commitment to keep anything: cars, spouses, houses, etc.

Then, the writer listed a few friends who when they got their hands on a body style they wanted, built them up and over 40 years, those hot rods still belong to them. Like it was a part of the family.

Not only do you have to want a particular car for that long but, you have to deal with the economy, recessions, lay-offs, illness, college funds, tempting offers, etc.

''when you find the one you want, you hang onto it''

To me, these Japanese cars are the hot rods of our generation. The s-chassis is a car I grew up on. Sure, they're not a desirable supercar but, I've got my ''Keeper.''

[deukalionS14]

^^^ I like the way you think with your last sentence. I totally agree

[BustedS13]

i've had it since i was 17
i'll own it until one of us dies

[goldee240]

i have 2 240s one is a dd and the other i rarely drive rarely raced never drifted never tracked im pritty sure ill still hold on to it ill be 29 hmmmmm

[the shocker]

Got my S12 about 8 months ago when i was 17 now 18 and going to keep it till its wrecked, got some big plans for it

[aoiken3]

10 years?? why aim so low? i'd have my s13(s) until i die and then pass it onto my children n their children and so forth. s-chassis is a part of me and always will be

[enkei2k]

i'm probably gonna keep it for a while unless a good deal comes up and i can work out a trade with someone. i've spent way too much on my car already for me to let it go.

[zenki.life]

They will go the way of the Datsun 510.

just follow the path of how those cars have been going, and you have your answer.

*Abundant car.
*ended up with great race history (510 was trans am series, s13 is drifting)
*upgrade parts became readily available.
*Engine swaps became common.
*Got really popular among the young car enthusiest.
*Datsun/Nissan made a model that took its place (Z car and ,....well, Zcar :) )
*the youth started to go towards the newer replacement model as they started showing up used, and were marketed affordable.
*The 510/240sx fans stayed with the car and kept tracking them.
*the price of the car settles.
*Keeping cars in mint condition with all original parts became/becomes popular.
*some youth still enjoy the car and build them
*the price of the car starts to rise.
*the older guys start bringing the cars out only for events and show and shines.
*cheap parts for the cars disapears as aftermarket support dwindles, leaving only quality, yet pricey parts.
*Nissan 240sx takes over the datsun 510 meet at Shasta.
*the "spook" or front "lip" becomes a sought after item.
*Original "tacks"/"HUD's" get really expensive.
*Most owners enjoy building the cars, and the occational "spirited" sunday drive.
*Alot of 240sx projects are sold because another baby is on the way.
*most owners watch the remaining 240sx's that are tracked over their forums and mailing list.


soooo,..... did i miss anything??
lol





haha. i find this eerily true.

as for me im going to keep her till i die.

and.....she'll sit side by side my GTR!!!! haha

[NiSilS14]

I'm also in wayy too deep on my S14, and it'll only get deeper until i'm satisfied with how the car is. Some people call it idiotic, but I really don't care. It makes me happy and that's all that matters to me. I'll 31-32 in ten years so I'm pretty sure I'll still have mine.

[Logan]

I hope I have a better car than a 91 240sx.

Hahahah

[I LUV MY S13]

bringin bac a dead thread ha..too in love wit da s13...will be harder to find in 10 yrs

[BustedS13]

it'll probably be in a storage locker. unless i get a house with more garage space, because i'm hoping to own a car i'd like to keep garaged in 10 years.

[CrimsonRockett]

Both S-chassis will probably end up in storage.

Must preserve my low-mileage S-chassis.

[cxlumpy]

in a wall :p im going to try and find a low mileage 240 later in life, currently about to go to the 200k status

[MandTPhotography]

If I have an S-chassis in 10 years, then there is a problem.


Oh I have an S-chassis as a track car maybe.

[epics13]

Dam 10 years from now?? I'm sure I'll still have my s13 my sr might still be in there or mabye a rb and my sr in something else, even though there were some days where I just wanted to leave it on the side of the road LOL, then I think about the days when it made me proud to be a s13 owner n the love comes rite back.

[zenki.life]

if you look a couple of pages back i ignorantly said i would keep mine forever. sadly i am selling her in place of a coupe. bye bye hatchie

[lflkajfj12123]

^ terrible idea haha

[5t341tH]

i bought my car when i was 17 and thought it would keep it forever. it was all my work and pride.
3 years later, im like "fuck this shit" i sold it and bought a nice luxury 4door.
only time could have told me that

[Leo-kun]

10 years from now? damn I'll be 26.
That mean's S13's '93 or older can be brought over here from Japan.
yay!

[s13dan]

Im pretty sure you can import S13s now...
Or any car for that matter. What do you mean?