Anyone in the Military..

[mateoo]

Anyone on here in the military, I'm thinking of enlisting to the army..and I'd like to get some feedback..like what branch are you in, how was your experience and anything you would suggest

[sillyvia13]

Armed forces kick ass!
Good luck.

[mateoo]

dont do it.
please

be a cop.
a firefighter.
anything
dont support war. please.

I want to become a firefighter, but if you're just walking in from the streets taking the test..having no connections/volunteer exp/military exp you'll just be wasting your time

I wouldnt want to become a jobber officer either

I see this as a stepping stone..go in..get out..have a stronger resume

[VROOOM]

my bro did the same thing your thinking of doing, he ships out to Afghanistan on Jan 16th.

[mateoo]

my bro did the same thing your thinking of doing, he ships out to Afghanistan on Jan 16th.


Has he given you any feedback on his experiences so far? And what is his job

[VROOOM]

he is in the Army 10th Mountain. he has told me before that he regrets signing up, but last time i talked to him he just wanted to get it over with.
he is a radio guy(not sure the real word) back at the base. i know he is shipping over to Camp Joyce. thats all i know right now. when i get some calls or emails from him i can let you know how he likes it.

[mateoo]

he is in the Army 10th Mountain. he has told me before that he regrets signing up, but last time i talked to him he just wanted to get it over with.
he is a radio guy(not sure the real word) back at the base. i know he is shipping over to Camp Joyce. thats all i know right now. when i get some calls or emails from him i can let you know how he likes it.


Oh..damn..thanks I appreciate it

[91240kat]

dont do it.
please
dont support war. please.

He is not supporting war, he is defending his country... With your logic if he becomes a cop he is supporting crime ...

I was in the Army, Airborne Ranger. Yes, now is a tuff time to be in the military but not every job in the army will require you to participate in combat if thats what you worried about. Military is great if your looking to grow up a little, travel, earn money for college, meet interesting people and get trained to do something you can do after the army.

You can be anything from a mechanic to journalist....

If i hadn't blew out my knee to the point i had to have a complete knee replacement I would still be in....

[mateoo]

He is not supporting war, he is defending his country... With your logic if he becomes a cop he is supporting crime ...

I was in the Army, Airborne Ranger. Yes, now is a tuff time to be in the military but not every job in the army will require you to participate in combat if thats what you worried about. Military is great if your looking to grow up a little, travel, earn money for college, meet interesting people and get trained to do something you can do after the army.

You can be anything from a mechanic to journalist....

If i hadn't blew out my knee to the point i had to have a complete knee replacement I would still be in....

Thanks, I've been talking to a recruiter..and I'd like to pursue a mechanic type career...with the way the economy is It's hard to go back to school..with the money I make at my job right now its barely enough to get me by

I also always felt I want to look back in my life and have stories to tell..I dont want to be stuck doing the same boring stuff as all my friends

Btw, now that you are not in the military what do you do?

[91240kat]

trust being in the military, you will have more stories than you can imagine. Plus you will have a bond with any one else that was in the military and that can really help when you get out getting a job. A lot of company's see military experience as a good quality they want in there employees. Being in the military will teach you good work ethic and responsibility. Yeah i am pretty pro military but don't let me fool you its not allways fun... Being away from home and being pushed hard because at times the miltary can have very high standards (sucks)

I am currently a transportaion cordinator for major moving and shipping company...

[mateoo]

trust being in the military, you will have more stories than you can imagine. Plus you will have a bond with any one else that was in the military and that can really help when you get out getting a job. A lot of company's see military experience as a good quality they want in there employees. Being in the military will teach you good work ethic and responsibility. Yeah i am pretty pro military but don't let me fool you its not allways fun... Being away from home and being pushed hard because at times the miltary can have very high standards (sucks)

I am currently a transportaion cordinator for major moving and shipping company...


Yeah I bet it can be exhausting..But i'm somewhat of a physical health freak..I currently work at Bally total fitness..so Im constantly exercising..and im also a thrill seeker..so if anything i'm anxious to go to basic

Another thing that grabs me is the full medical/dental/vision..and I hear some people can qualify for free laser eye surgery

[mRclARK1]

It's not for everyone obviously... It's good experience, especially for the jobs you're interested in. But don't think you NEED it. There are many cops, firefighters and emergency services employees that have zero military training. I would say probably the majority don't actually...

Probably the hardest part about it is initially getting accustomed to the lifestyle and the general atmosphere of the military. Some people never do and they're the ones that you hear about all the time. Not saying the military is an easy and fun deal all the time, but a lot of what you hear is also bias. One dude I know who always puts it down really hard DID join up... And was bounced right out cause he couldn't follow the simplest of fucking rules. Rules you'd find in any workplace or aspect of society, but in his mind it's just "The military is way to strict blah blah blah..."

[mateoo]

It's not for everyone obviously... It's good experience, especially for the jobs you're interested in. But don't think you NEED it. There are many cops, firefighters and emergency services employees that have zero military training. I would say probably the majority don't actually...

I suppose. but chances are their bosses have that experience which lead them to get their higher ranking/higher paid position?

[VROOOM]

im sure its as good as you want it to be. if you want to gain the experience you will. if you dont have the drive you wont. i know quite a few police officers and firemen and none of the guys i know have been in the military. then again i have some friends that are huge fuck ups and were in the military. i think like any job you take what you want out of the experience.

[mRclARK1]

^^^Very true.

I suppose. but chances are their bosses have that experience which lead them to get their higher ranking/higher paid position?

Again... Maybe. I'd say still most likely not, but it also is NOT going to hurt you, just the opposite. It's a cost/benefit deal. It'll benefit you in the end for your ultimate career goals, but are you willing to pay the cost of the lifestyle that comes with the military, and it's inherent risks. It also depends on what your goals are in your career... If you're wanting to be a firefighter, military training benefits you for physical fitness and discipline obviously. If you're interested in LE and hope to try out for SWAT someday... Join up, it'll help you a lot in that case.

FWIW I personally know several cops. I can only think of 2 with military experience... One with 3 years in the army as a tech of some kind. The other was in the Marine corps for 10 years and spent time in special operations... Both have been passed over in favor of other on promotions and positions. It's all politics and seniority for most shit in life anyway. haha

[mateoo]

^^^Very true.



Again... Maybe. I'd say still most likely not, but it also is NOT going to hurt you, just the opposite. It's a cost/benefit deal. It'll benefit you in the end for your ultimate career goals, but are you willing to pay the cost of the lifestyle that comes with the military, and it's inherent risks. It also depends on what your goals are in your career... If you're wanting to be a firefighter, military training benefits you for physical fitness and discipline obviously. If you're interested in LE and hope to try out for SWAT someday... Join up, it'll help you a lot in that case.

FWIW I personally know several cops. I can only think of 2 with military experience... One with 3 years in the army as a tech of some kind. The other was in the Marine corps for 10 years and spent time in special operations... Both have been passed over in favor of other on promotions and positions. It's all politics and seniority for most shit in life anyway. haha

When the recruiters asked me if I ever done drugs, smoke, drink, been arrested..I said no, I've never tried nor would..they all seemed suprised...They probably deal with a lot of crazy immature kids that want to join..I follow rules..i'm not an idiot..i'm responsible I stay out of trouble..I do my thing to get by

Aside from having 15 points on my license ..lol

[VROOOM]

15 points on your license will make it awfully hard to become a cop.

[DOOK]

if you can become an airplane or helo mechanic, go for it...

[azndoc]

Do a search for military on here and you'll see plenty of other threads regarding this issue.

And before someone else stupid comes on here telling.

The military does not start wars, nor does it tell itself where it is going.

Blame the politicians for that.

Stop blaming the military you idiots.

Blame the government.

[mRclARK1]

^^^Yeah, be ready for that if you do join. It's amazing how many dumbasses are convinced you, as a soldier, sailor etc., are the one's that make the decision where to go and for what reason.

The points on your license are going to come back to bite you probably a little, but keeping yourself outta trouble on the road for a good period of time would demonstrate a lot to help you out to counter-act that.

I'll admit though I'm somewhat bias in my advice... I come from a military oriented family with a fairly long history of service. I'm personally even toying with going back...

[yokotas13]

dont do it.
please

be a cop.
a firefighter.
anything
dont support war. please.
shut the fuck up and get out of the US.
we do more than fight wars you idiot.




dont go army, go airforce!

[mateoo]

^^^Yeah, be ready for that if you do join. It's amazing how many dumbasses are convinced you, as a soldier, sailor etc., are the one's that make the decision where to go and for what reason.

The points on your license are going to come back to bite you probably a little, but keeping yourself outta trouble on the road for a good period of time would demonstrate a lot to help you out to counter-act that.

Lol i've had the points since june-ish..I still have my license but am on "probation" ...I've been pulled over a few times in NY (thank god for my PBA card) and once in NJ..I'm not looking to become a cop though

Anyways before this thread gets in the wrong direction

Please only post if you had/know someone with military experience

[yokotas13]

i am in the air force, c-130 engine mechanic, whatcha wanna know

[mateoo]

shut the fuck up and get out of the US.
we do more than fight wars you idiot.




dont go army, go airforce!

I tried to get info on the airforce online, but they couldnt process any information because I dont have a college degree or something

I also heard the sign up list is full for the next couple of years?

[yokotas13]

why do you go off things you hear and the internet

go to the damn recruiter
and no, the signup list isnt full for hte next couple of years lol

[HalveBlue]

I just got out in July after 6 1/2 years.

I joined the Army Reserve initially and after a couple of years I got sucked into the AC world. I actually spent more time on Active Duty than doing the weekend warrior thing!

I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else thinking about joining:

-The Army is a lot of things to a lot of people
-It's what you make of it
-Be honest with yourself (why do you want to join, what do you want to get out of it?).

A lot of people still have this preconceived notion that the military is a repository for the fuck ups in society. That's not true at all.

I've met so many people coming from so many different backgrounds it's not even funny. Everything from kids trying to avoid jail time to people with PhD's to millionaires.

I think a lot of people that have served almost take for granted the things that they see and experience. I've seen some of the worst stuff imaginable in the military. But I've also experienced some of the best times in my life.

The military is complex, and a lot of people that are thinking about joining are often confused by the military jargon, the immense bureaucracy, and the number of options available to them.

If I had to do it all over again, I would have done some things differently.

All in all, my number #1 piece of advice for somebody in your shoes is as follows:

1. Do as much research as possible.

2. Know exactly what you want. If your recruiter can't get it for your, WALK!

Recruiters can range from fantastic and knowledgeable to lazy and dumb.

Stick to your guns. There are waivers for almost everything. If your recruiter says something can't be done, don't be afraid of contacting another recruiter. 9 times out of 10 they either don't know how to get you want or are too lazy to do the paperwork.

Also, always remember that recruiting is quota driven and there are a lot of politics involved.

One of my buddies got thrown into an admin job because his recruiter told him that there weren't any 11B (Infantry) slots available, which is basically bullshit.

Anyway, dude, it's a big decision.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or just want to get some general insights.

Good Luck!

[mateoo]

why do you go off things you hear and the internet

go to the damn recruiter
and no, the signup list isnt full for hte next couple of years lol

I've spoken to a couple of people in the military at my job, they always say "Yeah everyone in basic training will complain how theyre recruiter lied to them about...blah blah" ..I just want to get as much information as possible before making a commitment you know

[mRclARK1]

One of my buddies got thrown into an admin job because his recruiter told him that there weren't any 11B (Infantry) slots available, which is basically bullshit.

hahahaha. No infantry slots open? That would be the day the army can't use more honest to god soldiers...

[yokotas13]

I've spoken to a couple of people in the military at my job, they always say "Yeah everyone in basic training will complain how theyre recruiter lied to them about...blah blah" ..I just want to get as much information as possible before making a commitment you know
dude, basic training is a fuckign cake walk in teh air force
the biggest challenge used to be folding yoru clothes perfect....now they roll all the clothes up...so thats not even a pita anymore.

other services i cant talk about. but i get paid the same e5 pay as someone getting shot at.....and im not getting shot at, but instead airdroping his bullets to shoot at other people :)

[mateoo]

dude, basic training is a fuckign cake walk in teh air force
the biggest challenge used to be folding yoru clothes perfect....now they roll all the clothes up...so thats not even a pita anymore.

other services i cant talk about. but i get paid the same e5 pay as someone getting shot at.....and im not getting shot at, but instead airdroping his bullets to shoot at other people :)

How long have you been in the airforce? what do you study? and where have you traveled to?

[yokotas13]

5ish years?

i work on air plane engines, now i can work on any jet engine the air force uses

ive been to:
Us like 8 different bases
greece
spain
azores
africa (ethiopia, kenya, djibouti, chad)
japan currently

[airsoft]

Welp my dreams were cut short due to family reasons @ home.

I wish I could become an Officer Candidate for USMC.

I went as far as full physical in SD last year.

I was the only one out of about 120 persons doing the physical for Officers Candidate???

Now I sit in the corporate world... yay. So Sad.... at least I'm lucky enough to be employed

[azndoc]

Grant I thought the AF's boot camp was actually more of a retreat than an actual boot camp.

Still riding bikes?

[mateoo]

5ish years?

i work on air plane engines, now i can work on any jet engine the air force uses

ive been to:
Us like 8 different bases
greece
spain
azores
africa (ethiopia, kenya, djibouti, chad)
japan currently


So when you spoke to a AF recruiter, what was your goals? you had in mind pursuing mechanics?

[yokotas13]

yeah
I came in guaranteed my job

[mateoo]

yeah
I came in guaranteed my job


Did you have any exp prior to joining?

[HalveBlue]

Well, you can be a man and join the military.


Or...













You can join the Air Force. :ghey:

I keeed, I keeed. :keke:

[mRclARK1]

There's some real men in the air force...

... Somewhere.

I'm sure there's a couple...

:love:

Jokes.

[yokotas13]

Did you have any exp prior to joining?

Scores a 96 on my asvab

[mateoo]

Scores a 96 on my asvab


What kind of exam is that

[fromxtor]

^^ the same exam to get in any of the 5 branches, my creds:

USAF
E-5
5+ years in
Aircraft Hydraulic Systems Tech
Visited the desert, Spain, Germany, Ireland
Community College of the AF Associates Degree

[yokotas13]

CCAF is a bullshit ass degree lol

[mRclARK1]

What kind of exam is that

Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery.

Like most aptitude tests out there it covers everything to a degree. Basic math, science, verbal and paragraph comprehension skills, basic mechanical knowledge etc.

If you paid even decent attention in high school you should have zero problem passing and qualifying for almost any occupation or classification you'd likely want.

There's prep tests etc. available online probably...

[HalveBlue]

IIRC, as long as you score 50 or higher on the ASVAB you qualify for like 99% of the MOS in the military. At least that's what my recruiter told me.

Once you're in, all anybody cares about seems to be the GT score anway.

[yokotas13]

your recruiter is wrong

my job was a 73 when i came in
dunno what it is now

i qualified for everything but two jobs
you can bea cop, they only need a 30.

[fromxtor]

CCAF is a bullshit ass degree lol

Hey it's my second associates, how many degrees do you have Grant?

[yokotas13]

not a damn one
working on my A&P

[MTalon]

Not sure if someone stated it already or not but the firefighter mos was phased out of the army. Also, don't let your recruiter pick your job for you. They tend to twist your arm into picking a mos that the military needs. Pick the job you want and stick to it

[fromxtor]

^^ The AF has plenty of Firefighter slots open

[S14DB]

IIRC, as long as you score 50 or higher on the ASVAB you qualify for like 99% of the MOS in the military. At least that's what my recruiter told me.

Once you're in, all anybody cares about seems to be the GT score anway.

You need 33 to scrub the floor, 50 if you don't have a HS diploma. Much higher for anything decent.


ASVAB and Army Jobs - FREE ASVAB Practice Tests and ASVAB Study Guide (http://www.military.com/ASVAB/0,,ASVAB_MOS_Army.html)
ASVAB and Air Force Jobs - FREE ASVAB Practice Tests and ASVAB Study Guide (http://www.military.com/ASVAB/0,,ASVAB_MOS_USAF.html)
ASVAB and Marine Corps Jobs - FREE ASVAB Practice Tests and ASVAB Study Guide (http://www.military.com/ASVAB/0,,ASVAB_MOS_USMC.html)
ASVAB and Navy Jobs - FREE ASVAB Practice Tests and ASVAB Study Guide (http://www.military.com/ASVAB/0,,ASVAB_MOS_Navy.html)

[MisawaJason]

Grant I thought the AF's boot camp was actually more of a retreat than an actual boot camp.

Still riding bikes?

Retreat? GTFO. Yeah, it's not as hardcore as the USMC boot camp, but it's far from a retreat.

Bikes? That went out the door years ago. Now it's a timed 1.5M run, push ups, sit ups and abdominal circ.


Go Air Force. I've highly enjoyed my time in

[azndoc]

Retreat? GTFO. Yeah, it's not as hardcore as the USMC boot camp, but it's far from a retreat.

Bikes? That went out the door years ago. Now it's a timed 1.5M run, push ups, sit ups and abdominal circ.


Go Air Force. I've highly enjoyed my time in

Dude that's like warm up for the rest of us every morning.

[MisawaJason]

ok. Want a cookie?

[azndoc]

ok. Want a cookie?

haha

dude you need to lighten up.

seriously.

go play some golf.

[mateoo]

can we focus on the point of this thread


anyone in the army right now..and do they know anyone who is a mechanic for the army

[driftking561]

If My 2 cents matter, im a Marine stationed in the 29 palms (lucky me, the desert) but anyway, the armed service in general in not a bad deal. Especially when it comes to getting money for school. the experience, training and credibility itself is enogh to pay for a 4yr contract over and over again. But if u want to be able to say u joined the military, sign a contract with the army, airforce or navy however if u want the oppertunity to earn the title Marine its somethin that u really, really, really want. the shit aint easy

[mateoo]

yeah no dis respect but i wouldnt do marines

[Jung918]

Let me just say that I was a part of a Marine detachment on Lackland AFB.The AF recruits were walking on clouds there. Polar opposites of what you would encounter in a Marine boot camp.

Let me just say, if I could I could do it over again, I would join the air force. It is like a resort compared to the Marines.

PS. Don't join the military because you are experienceing ruff times. Join the military because you want to be part of an organization that produces change.

[yokotas13]

Retreat? GTFO. Yeah, it's not as hardcore as the USMC boot camp, but it's far from a retreat.

Bikes? That went out the door years ago. Now it's a timed 1.5M run, push ups, sit ups and abdominal circ.


Go Air Force. I've highly enjoyed my time in
i dunno jason...

shit was cake

[S14DB]

can we focus on the point of this thread


anyone in the army right now..and do they know anyone who is a mechanic for the army

What are your goals?

2-3yr tour then go a get a civi job or Career?
Worker or a Fighter?


If you want to do the firefighting. Airport Firefighter is were the money is. USAF has the best program for this(IMHO).

Fire Protection Apprentice - Enlisted Careers - AirForce.com (http://www.airforce.com/opportunities/enlisted/careers/general/fire-protection-apprentice/)
https://www.goarmy.com/JobDetail.do?id=137
Emergency, Fire & Rescue: Enlisted: Careers & Jobs: Navy (http://www.navy.com/careers/enlisted/emergency/)


Go talk to all 4. They are usually in the same building these days. If they tell you they have no firefighters MOS or are full. Say thank you for your time and move on to the next branch. Every Recruiter has his quota of MOS's to fill. He is going to try and get you into a slot asap. Don't be afraid to cook him for a couple weeks till a firefighter slot opens up. People fail their ASVAB and drop out before boot all the time. Get the MOS that YOU want and don't go to boot until you have it.

[azndoc]

i dunno jason...

shit was cake

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Seriously though.

It is what it is. There is no shame in that.

Every service is different. I give props to everyone who was in a service to begin with even if it was AF or even puddle pirate Coast Guard.

Its just friend service rivalries.

The military is full of traditions, great times, great friends, and moments.

Sometimes in the most horrible conditions and times you will still have great laughs because of the people around you.

That's what its all about. Doing a job that many aren't willing to do and having the time of your life doing so.

Its kinda hard to describe it. Its just something that you have to go through in order to understand it.

You just have to have a positive outlook on things.

You will find inner strength that you never knew was there.

You will go through hardship but that just tells you that nothing in the future will be as hard and so it will all be easy to accomplish.

Regardless of which branch of service you decide on, its all about the experience and what you learn from it.

[MTalon]

I've only been in the army for a bit over 6 months now and ive loved it so far. At times you will hate it but I have no regrets with my decision. :-D. They are paying off my college loans and I'm learning a trade that can make me a ton of money in the civilian world if I choose to go back.

No complaints

[CrimsonRockett]

sillyvia13, don't come in here to stir up some shit.

Keep this clean.

yokotas13 side job has nothing to do with this thread.

[mRclARK1]

yea you rip off Zilvians selling $500 rims for $2200 and ship them back at our costs... ie tax money...
I am hip to your game turd. you aint shit bro.
go fix a bomb dropper would ya.

You missed the school. :rant:

You serious? I don't know you at all, but most of the time people who talk like you wanted to sign up but never had the balls... So they think hating on the service and its members somehow makes up for their regret or whatever...

Not everything is a conspiracy, the government isn't your worst enemy and there really are bad people out there that don't like the society you live so comfortably in. So while other people are doing the fighting and serving for you, say thanks, and shut the fuck up.

Thanks.

Why can't people just do what the OP asked? If you don't have advice pertaining to his question, don't post. No experience or knowledge = Nothing useful to say.

OP: S14DB gave some really good advice, especially if you're intent on pursuing a firefighter position in the future. I'd say the air force sounds like your best option... Not just cause it's "easier".

[sillyvia13]

I respect each and every Armed Force member.\
My Father Is a Marine.
His Illness is killing him. Being a Vet from NAM. he;s been dieing since he got back.


WAR ITS WHATS FOR DINNER.

[fromxtor]

^^ While I 100% support RP, i don't see your point. The "govt" and military do not go hand in hand. They did not ask me if I thought it was a good idea to waste mine and your tax money to start an operation overseas for years on end, nor am I getting a cut from the federal reserve. After taxes I made like $24k this past year, i pay on 2 vehicles and I support my wife and daughter. I'm in the same boat as a majority of you on here, overworked, underpaid and in debt.

[mateoo]

all you guys suck..stop messing up my thread!

anyways i was looking into mechanics as my MOS..and i want to get info on people who served in the army..and see if its worth it..and not what they make it out to be

and yes my recruiter would be willing to give me mechanics as an MOS

[sillyvia13]

all you guys suck..stop messing up my thread!

anyways i was looking into mechanics as my MOS..and i want to get info on people who served in the army..and see if its worth it..and not what they make it out to be

and yes my recruiter would be willing to give me mechanics as an MOS

my bad, I shall delete my posts, I thought I share my opinion.
Enjoy.

[mRclARK1]

I respect each and every Armed Force member.\
My Father Is a Marine.
His Illness is killing him. Being a Vet from NAM. he;s been dieing since he got back.

Well if I'm misunderstanding you, I apologize. There's a lot of people out there who give no respect to people in the service, and it just really is something that makes me upset.

all you guys suck..stop messing up my thread!

anyways i was looking into mechanics as my MOS..and i want to get info on people who served in the army..and see if its worth it..and not what they make it out to be

and yes my recruiter would be willing to give me mechanics as an MOS

If you can get the MOS you want, you're willing to accept the inherent risks (the military in any capacity is at least some...) and military life and know it's what you want... Do it. But like was said, you're experience will be what you take out of it. They'll be times you hate it, and times you love it, but that's any job.

Do you have any related training or schooling that you have loans on or anything? If so, bring it up and get every benefit you can. You can get that shit paid off... A good idea is to talk to one recruiter in one location, and call up another one in another location and double check anything you don't like or ask for and are told you can't get. Decide what you want (and can qualify for) and stick to it.

[91240kat]

Like someone said , a recruiter has numbers to make each month. So it pays to go at the beginning of the month. He will be more willing to work with you and not just force you into what MOS (jobs) are open.

[S14DB]

all you guys suck..stop messing up my thread!

anyways i was looking into mechanics as my MOS..and i want to get info on people who served in the army..and see if its worth it..and not what they make it out to be

and yes my recruiter would be willing to give me mechanics as an MOS

Mechanics is a whole section of MOS's. There is like 70 of them. Everything from Apache repair to Cable puller.

https://www.goarmy.com/JobSearchPre.do

Go through and pick some you like. Then go back to the recruiter and see if any of them have any bonuses and benefits to signing. This is a work/business contract. You are signing with them for 2-3yrs and they are paying you for it. Your goal is to get the most benefits for your time.


As far as talking to people. I dunno if the net is the best place to do it. The recruiter should have people back from boot working for them for a extra week off before MOS you can talk to about boot. They should also have a list of local duty or reservists that would be willing to meet up with you and talk with you. Best if you could find someone with a MOS close to the one you want.


The most important thing is don't rush into anything. The recruiter wants to get you on the next bus to boot. You want to get the MOS you want with the most benefits you can get. If you have to wait 2wks to a month for the next bus so be it.

It's a 2-3yr commitment. If you ever don't feel comfortable about anything. Don't do it. Wait till you get more information about it or just pass on the offer. The military is not for everyone. You not being happy does them and you no good. So, spend a lot of time gathering all the info you can.

[fliprayzin240sx]

AF has a minimum ASVAB score of 40 to get in still right? Basically, depending on the job your trying to get, you have to get a certain score on it to be eligible for that job. Then again, anything and everything is waiverable if they need you it bad enough.

You score atleast an 80 and you'll be eligible for almost every job in the AF. The only job that I remember that requires a really high ASVAB score (atleast 90-92) is crypto linguist.

I originally came in as ATC (Air Traffic Controller) working the radar scope. Ended up washing out and crosstraining to Satellite Communications (which is now merging with Radios). I've been in 8 yrs as of Nov. So far, no regrets. I'm in for another 2 yrs before my enlistment is up. 10 yrs in, why the hell would I wanna get out? Im half way to a retirement...besides, travelling the world Ive been to almost every state on the east coast, most states in the west, Japan, New Zealand, Antartica, Thailand, Guam, Hawaii, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait and Iraq. Most folks dont even know where the fuck half those places are.

Anyways, if you decide to go AF, fire fighters koo, but be sure you are physically fit before you come in.

Some other jobs I always recommend to folks: Any flying jobs (boom ops, flight engineer if can deal with lots of numbers, flying crew chief). Hospital equipment maintainer (X-rays, MRI machines), cushy job, youre in doors, doesnt get too dirty and your working at Club BDU (med group surrounded by the highest male to female ratio in any other place in the AF).

Anyways, why do Navy uniforms have names on the back pockets???


Soo you know who your fucking in the butt!!! :bowrofl:
AF is so gay, we aint cool enough to be part of the Village People...
http://www.teamteabag.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/village_people_1.jpg

[Pblesh85]

shut the fuck up and get out of the US.
we do more than fight wars you idiot.




dont go army, go airforce!

Whats wrong, cant do pt or work for a living ???

Air Force guys are lazy, and your planes never work. Or at least when we need to jump.


"If you cant truck it, Fuck It !", 88m soon to reclass to Group support or E.O.D.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Whats wrong, cant do pt or work for a living ???

Air Force guys are lazy, and your planes never work. Or at least when we need to jump.

Says the guys who cant even turn off their fucking CREW System when they roll into the FOB, when theres a GIANT ASS SIGN telling you to turn the fuckers off. :ddog:

Besides, our planes never work? Because theyre getting fixed, id rather have planes grounded than trying to fly on Chinooks, Sherpas, Blackhawks thats ready fall out of the sky the moment it hits 2000 ft. :fart:

[Pblesh85]

So that sign saying to turn off all radar jamming eqp. is not a joke ???

Ohh shit, now it makes since... How often do you get off the fob ...

Oh look its raining and we are afraid to land our planes. We better have the trans. guys move our shit for us. After all we dont want to have to get out of PT's and go to work or anything like that...

Got to love "FOBBITS", Go space power !!!

[fromxtor]

Whats wrong, cant do pt or work for a living ???

Air Force guys are lazy, and your planes never work.

I better not see you at the Air show this upcoming year...but then again why would you there would be no working aircraft to fly.

[Pblesh85]

I better not see you at the Air show this upcoming year...but then again why would you there would be no working aircraft to fly.

Oh I will be there, just look for me. I will be the guy in ACU's and the red beret.

WTF would I go to an air show, Lame....

[fliprayzin240sx]

So that sign saying to turn off all radar jamming eqp. is not a joke ???

Ohh shit, now it makes since... How often do you get off the fob ...

Oh look its raining and we are afraid to land our planes. We better have the trans. guys move our shit for us. After all we dont want to have to get out of PT's and go to work or anything like that...

Got to love "FOBBITS", Go space power !!!

Somebody sounds salty...just remember that time you deployed for 15 months, we've had 5 AF rotations in that same time...:kiss:

When do I deploy again? Hmm...last time was 03, its 08 now, oh shit, 5 yrs to spend 4 months here. Not too shabby. Stay in a pod that I share with 1 more person, got sidewalks, internet cafe literally 150 feet from my front door, Green Bean Coffe, oh snap, is that a shoppete? Oh wait, we got Popeye's Chicken, Pizza Hut, Burger King, Taco-Bell, Subway and 2 BXs on JBB?? God lifes so fucking tough out here...:aw:

PS: As far as the CREW, guess some of you guys just dont get the concept. Its a WIDE BAND RF JAMMER. You do know it takes out anything and everything up to a mile around you right? Its always fun when your Radio goes dead during an inflight emergency, and your strapped on an F-16 with a fucking flame out as your making an approach to the runway. :bigok:

[Pblesh85]

Somebody sounds salty...just remember that time you deployed for 15 months, we've had 5 AF rotations in that same time...:kiss:

When do I deploy again? Hmm...last time was 03, its 08 now, oh shit, 5 yrs to spend 4 months here. Not too shabby. Stay in a pod that I share with 1 more person, got sidewalks, internet cafe literally 150 feet from my front door, Green Bean Coffe, oh snap, is that a shoppete? Oh wait, we got Popeye's Chicken, Pizza Hut, Burger King, Taco-Bell, Subway and 2 BXs on JBB?? God lifes so fucking tough out here...:aw:

PS: As far as the CREW, guess some of you guys just dont get the concept. Its a WIDE BAND RF JAMMER. You do know it takes out anything and everything up to a mile around you right? Its always fun when your Radio goes dead during an inflight emergency, and your strapped on an F-16 with a fucking flame out as your making an approach to the runway. :bigok:

Im well aware of what the DUKES system is, umm I believe I work with them enough.

God forbid the internet goes down at the green bean.

The Air Force goes to high alert status, shuts down the air space, and refuses to work until its back on...

Get off the fob and do something worth while. It wont hurt you ...

[yokotas13]

Whats wrong, cant do pt or work for a living ???

Air Force guys are lazy, and your planes never work. Or at least when we need to jump.


"If you cant truck it, Fuck It !", 88m soon to reclass to Group support or E.O.D.
idunno about where YOU work
But here nad my last base were consistantly 98%+ FMC at all times. Katrina support? Yeah Moody flew 8 missionsa day with its planes 24 hours a day.

maybe it is YOUR maintenance that sucks. and way to generalize about other services. I run 3 miles 4 times a week, and work out regularly. All AF members arent dirtbags grunt.

[yokotas13]

So that sign saying to turn off all radar jamming eqp. is not a joke ???

Ohh shit, now it makes since... How often do you get off the fob ...

Oh look its raining and we are afraid to land our planes. We better have the trans. guys move our shit for us. After all we dont want to have to get out of PT's and go to work or anything like that...

Got to love "FOBBITS", Go space power !!!
i dont know what the fuck you are talking about....
C-130 guys will land in anything and fly with damn near anything. fuck we flew from kenya after VIP Extraction to our base on 3 engines becuase a fuel control crapped.

I think you need to educate yourself on why things happen in teh ops and maintenance world.

c-5 and c-17s i cant speak of though, their crews are notoriously lazy as fuck

[fromxtor]

Oh I will be there, just look for me. I will be the guy in ACU's and the red beret.

WTF would I go to an air show, Lame....

Well, I'll be with a guy in ACUs with a red beret also so I shouldn't be too hard to find.

[cc4usmc]

What a fucking pissing contest this thread turned into.

[Pblesh85]

idunno about where YOU work
But here nad my last base were consistantly 98%+ FMC at all times. Katrina support? Yeah Moody flew 8 missionsa day with its planes 24 hours a day.

maybe it is YOUR maintenance that sucks. and way to generalize about other services. I run 3 miles 4 times a week, and work out regularly. All AF members arent dirtbags grunt.

First off, have a since of humor. Second im not the fucking infantry. I have a gt score, not a waiver to get in.

Im not calling all air force shit bags. You all just have a different standard than everyone else. But as far as having it hard or not on deployment...The latter.

Or do you disagree ?

And no you dont land if its wet, half of our air strip was not tarmac and if it was wet all planes were grounded. We had to move the mail, supplies, ect from xmas til jan 4ish this year.

Im not ragging on the fly boys, just teasing a bit.

But 12 miles a week ??? lol We run between 6~12 miles a day at least 3 times a week if not more. Your PT is LAX.

[fromxtor]

^^ That mainly because we have to PT on our own time, we don't do group/Squadron PT.

[ThatGuy]

I'm really not looking to step in here and pull rank, Mod or Military, but seriously guys...

SHUT UP

This thread isn't here so you guys can whip out you E-cocks and brag about you service while ragging on someone else's. Have some respect for each other. We all have our individual jobs to do in the grand scheme, and we all depend each other, whether we want to admit it or not.

Get over yourselves and get on with your lives. Go back to helping the OP instead of showing him what typically happens when different branches get together.

[KAT0]

To the OP, just do what you think is right. It's not about the possibilities, nor is it about what anyone else thinks. I know you're trying to get a perspective from an experienced view, but I can honestly tell you that regardless of everything you read, there will be no story or explanation that will help you justify your decision.

The country is at war and has troops in several hot spots around the world. Regardless of the MOS you choose, there's a good chance you'll be deployed at some point. They're trying to get troops rotated as fairly as possible, although I'm not sure how successful it's been.

Personally, there's only one real way to figure it out: Do you have the heart?
And that's something to marinate on for more than just a few seconds. Yes, you can take all the opinions and form your own. Just make sure that you realize what it might mean to you. Anyone who serves their country is a damned good person. Even if I'm against a war, I will never disrespect my brothers- and sisters-in-arms who are fighting it. Unfortunately, not everyone will see it that way.

Good luck with figuring out what you want. Hopefully it'll be for the best.

Not everyone is meant to serve, and that's alright, there's nothing wrong in not enlisting. It's just another choice in life.

[mateoo]

To the OP, just do what you think is right. It's not about the possibilities, nor is it about what anyone else thinks. I know you're trying to get a perspective from an experienced view, but I can honestly tell you that regardless of everything you read, there will be no story or explanation that will help you justify your decision.

The country is at war and has troops in several hot spots around the world. Regardless of the MOS you choose, there's a good chance you'll be deployed at some point. They're trying to get troops rotated as fairly as possible, although I'm not sure how successful it's been.

Personally, there's only one real way to figure it out: Do you have the heart?
And that's something to marinate on for more than just a few seconds. Yes, you can take all the opinions and form your own. Just make sure that you realize what it might mean to you. Anyone who serves their country is a damned good person. Even if I'm against a war, I will never disrespect my brothers- and sisters-in-arms who are fighting it. Unfortunately, not everyone will see it that way.

Good luck with figuring out what you want. Hopefully it'll be for the best.

Not everyone is meant to serve, and that's alright, there's nothing wrong in not enlisting. It's just another choice in life.


thanks I appreciate your feedback

[LoneStarSilvia]

To the OP:

As you've realized, no matter what branch you want to join, you'll always catch shit from the other branches....

That being said, I joined the Air Force because I didn't want to get shot at, I didn't want to live in shit holes the rest of my life, definitely didn't want to get the shit end of the MRE stick, and I love working on stuff.

I also scored high on my ASVAB and was guaranteed a job, I've been working on A-10's for a little under 2 years in aircraft armament. Its a love and hate relationship for sure, but I came into my recruiting office with a plan. I want a "cool" job that I'll enjoy, I didn't want to be a part of the "Chair Force", and I wanted to work with jets, something I wanted to do since I was little. So here I am, loading bombs and 30mm bullets onto the multi-million dollar pieces of shit lol.

Like its been said here, the military experience is what you make it. I have the say the Air Force gives you shit tons more freedom than the other branches in terms of job selection and off-time, they also give you pretty kick ass benefits. The new G.I. bill is, or will be kicking off for us soon and its something along the lines of it you joined a certain time after 9/11, and you do like 5 years+ service, when you get out if you go to school they'll pay off 100% tuition.

Especially if you want to be a firefighter, join the Air Force, we have them here too and all they do is play basketball and haul ass everywhere on the flightline.

Feel free to PM about any questions you might have.

[Pblesh85]

There is nothing wrong with a little spirited chat between branches. Its all in good fun. After all thats what forums are all about. Not everyone just wants to whip out their "E Cock"...

Just a bit of fun, dont take it to heart.:cj:

[S14DB]

There is nothing wrong with a little spirited chat between branches. Its all in good fun. After all thats what forums are all about. Not everyone just wants to whip out their "E Cock"...

Just a bit of fun, dont take it to heart.:cj:

When it has nothing to do with the OP's question or helping the OP it does.

[mateoo]

When it has nothing to do with the OP's question or helping the OP it does.


lol whatevz, its all good

[worr20]

im 17 and in the army. I love it!

[cc4usmc]

im 17 and in the army. I love it!

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