Windows 7 Beta 1

[SimpleS14]

So I got a hold of the first (and probably only) beta of Windows 7 and I must say it's a nice improvement over Vista.

Installation was very quick (around 15mins) and this beta is surprising stable and very zippy even on my old P4 computer.

I like some of the new GUI features such as "Aero Shake" and "Aero Snap".

However, the most noticable change is also one I'm not sure many people will welcome...and that's the new taskbar.

It's hard to explain, but its so simple...yet complex at the same time. The combination of shortcuts and running programs is nice and clean to the overall design, but its really hard to tell what is a shortcut and what is a running program (by the default settings). It's kind of like a combination of quick launch and taskbar buttons with a hint of OSX dock (with how you can shift the icons around).

For example when you click on an icon and run a program, you can't click on the icon again to run a new instance. Instead you have to right-click and select that programs name in the new "Jump List". It makes sense to me, but I have a feeling most people might be instantly turned off by this feature. I really hope in the final version there is an option to revert to a "classic" style taskbar.

Other than that, I'm sure that those of you that are interested have probably read all kinds of reviews and even found a way to obtain it.

For obvious reasons I can't say how I acquired this, but Microsoft does plan to release a public beta next month.

Anyone else give this a try?

[P_856]

i think the show desktop button on the right side is cool if u put the pointer on it it makes all the windows invisible haha

[P_856]

but yea my cousin has windows 7 beta for a little while now i didnt really get to mess around with it but its seems cool

[Matej]

Is it made for idiots like Vista, or is it cool like XP?

[hegamiz]

Im very interested. Only reason i held back on buying a new laptop was because of Vista...
Do you know if 7 has that security feature that asks for permission to run every little thing?
Was playing with a friends new desktop it was very annoying...

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Allowed to take screen shots? :D

[chibo]

Allowed to take screen shots? :D

He certainly hasn't signed an NDA so I don't see why not.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Feast-Your-Eyes-on-the-Leaked-Screenshots-of-Windows-7-M1-Ultimate-Edition-77163.shtml

[BustedS13]

Is it made for idiots like Vista, or is it cool like XP?

seriously. the main thing that made me switch back to xp was how dipshit friendly Vista was.

[cwallace12]

I was very reluctant with Vista for a long time until I got my hands on the Ultimate edition. After I got all the idiot proofing turned off it has ran great for me, and doesnt shit on itself like XP used to do sometimes. When it comes time to dump a program out of memory cause it has locked up it gives me no issues and has so far never crashed explorer. Now I would stay away from the low end Vista releases, they are meant for the walmart computers they come on, and for peeps who only play the solitary!

[Gnnr]

There's nothing revolutionary about Windows 7, its the same Kernel as Vista. It should just be called Vista SE. Much like 98SE fixed all the bugs 98 had (well, almost all the bugs).

[HyperTek]

i got vista ultimate 64bit for free... turned off some of the features and runs rock solid and its quick and doesnt get garbaged up like typical xp over time... xp would freeze up for me since i used to tweak the fuck out of it.



Hopefully when 7 comes out, microsoft will do a free offer for monitoring your activity like they did with vista last year *thats how i got it free from microsoft, just installed their monitoring software on a spare xp hard drive that i would just randomly boot up from time to time to surf the net while letting it report to them what i was doing, then switch to my good hdd for everything else*

[ryguy]

I agree, I reinstalled and tweaked Vista and now its fucking golden. From the screenshots of Windows 7 I have seen, it looks like the same exact thing as Vista.

[SimpleS14]

Is it made for idiots like Vista, or is it cool like XP?

I don't know how to comment on that. Vista is not bad and XP is not the best thing ever. XP gets boggy over time where no such issues occur with Vista. If you turn off most of the features it's a nice OS.

If you've never used Vista for atleast 30 days and <3 XP, then you're not going to like Windows 7 and probably be stuck in the past. :|

Allowed to take screen shots? :D

Yea I can take some screen shots.

He certainly hasn't signed an NDA so I don't see why not.
Feast Your Eyes on the Leaked Screenshots of Windows 7 M1 Ultimate Edition! - That's right! - Softpedia (http://news.softpedia.com/news/Feast-Your-Eyes-on-the-Leaked-Screenshots-of-Windows-7-M1-Ultimate-Edition-77163.shtml)

that's M1.....super old. Beta 1 is different.

http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win7_beta_screens_03.asp

There's nothing revolutionary about Windows 7, its the same Kernel as Vista. It should just be called Vista SE. Much like 98SE fixed all the bugs 98 had (well, almost all the bugs).

I agree, I reinstalled and tweaked Vista and now its fucking golden. From the screenshots of Windows 7 I have seen, it looks like the same exact thing as Vista.

Yes you can definitely say that since it's pretty much Vista with a few improvements and a new name. I personally got Vista for free (legally) and I can't see myself bumping up to Windows 7 unless I got it for free.99 or it comes at a very low pricepoint.

[cali240sxdrifter]

so where did you get it at? BT?

[corwin]

He said legally. I got a copy for free too, though I havn't installed it. Courtesy of some MS school partnership for software. Got my Visual Studio '05 free like that too.

[JeremyR]

i started with windows95...then went to 98..then to me, then to xp. i dont like the idea of having to re-learn an OS every 2 years. seems pointless. i like the "classic" windows look. non-cluttered easy to use easy to navigate. my family has another computer that has vista onit and i cant stand it. shits a cluterfuck. not to mention serveral features that i like in xp or not in vista so i realyl dont want to have to put in the time and effort to learn a new OS. i realise that MS has to make a new OS every so often to stay in business, but afor the select few that really like xp, dont kill the support.

[HyperTek]

your just not used to it.. I know for some its hard to adjust or make the move, but its worth it. I know money is an issue as to why people dont wanna upgrade, they cant justify spending over $200 bucks on software.

for me vista is very stable and solid, as others said, it doesnt get slowed down over time.. Turn off some of the visual features which slow the interface down. You can even make it look like the oldschool windows if you want. Than you have a trouble free system that will probably never need a reformat over time unlike XP getting bogged down after a while.

[0100]

Information on Downloading and Installing Windows 7 Beta - Windows 7 Team Blog - The Windows Blog (http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/archive/2009/01/07/information-on-downloading-and-installing-windows-7-beta.aspx)

On January 9th, the Windows 7 Beta will be available for Windows enthusiasts to download via the Windows 7 page on Windows.com. The Windows 7 Beta is going to be available download-only (we’re not sending out physical media) and available for a limited time to the first 2.5 million people who download the beta. Both 32bit and 64bit versions will be available.

and yes 7 is the real deal.


Windows 7 beta 1 performance - How does the OS compare to Vista and XP? | Hardware 2.0 | ZDNet.com (http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=3236)

Windows Startup Showdown: Windows 7 Beta Boasts Sub-30 Second Boot Time (http://lifehacker.com/5124955/windows-7-beta-boasts-sub+30-second-boot-time)

TechBlog: Windows 7 beta: first impressions (http://blogs.chron.com/techblog/archives/2009/01/windows_7_beta_first_impressions_1.html)

[SimpleS14]

Yea, I read about it...I'm going to download the 64-bit versus ASAP.

Probably right after the BCS game since it ends at 12 midnight. :)

[RJF]

meh....you should be running OS X :p

[svensko]

meh....you should be running linux :p

Fixed!:nono:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9051/56010153rc5.png

Peep the RAM usage.

[HyperTek]

oOoo come on guys dont make this a win vs mac vs linux lol
linux coding is fail btw lol
i threw it on my ps3 and its whatever lol

So how long will you get the use win 7 beta? i crapped my vista by tweaking some reg stuff so i might check it out

[svensko]

oOoo come on guys dont make this a win vs mac vs linux lol
linux coding is fail btw lol
i threw it on my ps3 and its whatever lol

So how long will you get the use win 7 beta? i crapped my vista by tweaking some reg stuff so i might check it out

Yeah, if you have the ADD Of a 7 year old then Linux is pretty confusing. I can't see how an OS that can run on 10 MB of RAM is "fail" though. Care to explain? :l101:

[HyperTek]

because coding your own shit just to install something is a pain and support? what support lol

im jus kidding, you probably like it tho so i wont say anything. Those are just my opinions.

Ill be checkin out this win 7 beta for the hell of it..
simples14 do you got the link where it should appear on at 1/9/09? since its limited download i suppose tons of people will be waiting to dl it lol

[SimpleS14]

Ill be checkin out this win 7 beta for the hell of it..
simples14 do you got the link where it should appear on at 1/9/09? since its limited download i suppose tons of people will be waiting to dl it lol

Welcome to Windows 7 (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/default.aspx)

I'm guessing 4 hours from when I made this post...there should be a link (since WA is on pacific time).


The beta that was released a few days ago has already been leaked. Which means a x64 version is out there.

[svensko]

because coding your own shit just to install something is a pain and support? what support lol

im jus kidding, you probably like it tho so i wont say anything. Those are just my opinions.

Ill be checkin out this win 7 beta for the hell of it..
simples14 do you got the link where it should appear on at 1/9/09? since its limited download i suppose tons of people will be waiting to dl it lol

All I have to do is open my "Apps" applications, download a list of available apps, click install, and it shows up on my bar at the bottom. :hahano:

[SimpleS14]

So it appears Microsoft's site is getting hammered....website is down lol I guess A LOT of people are waiting on this public beta.


Well I got the x64 version through a different venue and I will test it out when I get home. :)


Please....lets not turn this thread into a OS fanboy battle royale.

[SimpleS14]

Here's another site: Windows 7 Beta Customer Preview (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx)

Once again, its getting slammed.

[0100]

Windows 7 Public Beta Will Be Available at 12 Noon PST | Epicenter from Wired.com (http://blog.wired.com/business/2009/01/windows-7-publi.html)

It's up!

[HyperTek]

dlin it now from a direct link that was posted on some forums, however microsoft took the open beta sites down..... I just need to get a key for it

[0100]

yeah the link I posted won't give you a key either.

Need to wait till it's posted on the official site or the technet (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx) site.

[Om1kron]

Microsoft announces availability of Windows 7 Beta and Windows Live - Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/07/microsoft-announces-availability-of-windows-7-beta-and-windows-l/)

[SimpleS14]

So I just installed the x64 beta installed (activated) and I really like it.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/SimpleS14/MISC/win7prop.jpg

In case you're wondering why the "experience index" is low...its cause of the HDD (fairly old).

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q7/SimpleS14/MISC/win7rate.jpg

I'm definitely going to get this OS, just hoping the pricing is not horrid.

If anyone has any questions, let me know.

[seanc]

linux > windows. linux is getting easier to set up by the day. why pay ~$200 for an operating system that is riddled with security holes and crashes when you can get something completely customizable, secure and rarely crashes for free?

[Pank]

Why use an operating system that cant run 99.99% of the most popular/useful applications?

and dont give me that emulation environment shit, emulating a windows environment to run photoshop is retarded when you can just click "photoshop" in the quicklaunch.
GIMP sucks, so dont even try that.

on the server, linux/unix is king. On the desktop, its useless

I've been using Windows machines all my life, and i think i've gotten ONE virus, with 6 month+ uptimes. Mac users are the same way.

[HyperTek]

its like when someone makes a thread about microsoft zune, someone has to come in and say ipod is better... ps3 thread, someone will say 360 is better.. yadda yadda lol

[blaze]

im having a little problem installing the new OS. any help would be great.

i have downloaded both 32 and 64 bit. burned both as iso images.(separate dvd-r's ofcourse) so when i try to boot from dvd it takes me to a blue screen with only the mouse showing and just stays there.

-it is not locked up because the mouse is still moving.
-this is occuring with both versions.
-i have set my computer to stock settings and tried it as well as my overclocked settings and it still doesnt work.
-yes i have space on my hard drive about 50gb worth

anybody?

[Om1kron]

it's windows 7, granted I do tech support for a living... you're asking for help on an operating system's beta that was just made public 24 hours ago... Nobody is going to have a good answer for you. My best bet is to see if you have a ps/2 keyboard available instead of a usb keyboard. You may be able to get away with a mouse but the keyboard may be whats holding you up... the install may not continue if it doesn't detect a keyboard.

I dunno if they started to fix this with newer os' but i run windows xp64 on my machine and I need to use a ps2 mouse and keyboard to navigate in the install program.

[SimpleS14]

its like when someone makes a thread about microsoft zune, someone has to come in and say ipod is better... ps3 thread, someone will say 360 is better.. yadda yadda lol

I know! lol

I simply made this thread to see if anyone has given it a try....I'm not saying its superior to everything nor am I trying to start a debate. :|

I dunno if they started to fix this with newer os' but i run windows xp64 on my machine and I need to use a ps2 mouse and keyboard to navigate in the install program.

I'm using a USB mouse and keyboard.

im having a little problem installing the new OS. any help would be great.

i have downloaded both 32 and 64 bit. burned both as iso images.(separate dvd-r's ofcourse) so when i try to boot from dvd it takes me to a blue screen with only the mouse showing and just stays there.

-it is not locked up because the mouse is still moving.
-this is occuring with both versions.
-i have set my computer to stock settings and tried it as well as my overclocked settings and it still doesnt work.
-yes i have space on my hard drive about 50gb worth

anybody?

Just chill, it will load. I had that happen to me and was like "wtf?"..but I let it chill for a few minutes and it started up.

This happened the second time around when I installed the OS....but do remember it's still BETA.

[cali240sxdrifter]

Thanks for the PM George a few days ago... My PS crapped out on me so i couldn't reply sooner.

Can't wait to try out Windows 7, sadly I don't got enough space on my current HDD so I'll probably get another in the next few days.

[HyperTek]

im having a little problem installing the new OS. any help would be great.

i have downloaded both 32 and 64 bit. burned both as iso images.(separate dvd-r's ofcourse) so when i try to boot from dvd it takes me to a blue screen with only the mouse showing and just stays there.

-it is not locked up because the mouse is still moving.
-this is occuring with both versions.
-i have set my computer to stock settings and tried it as well as my overclocked settings and it still doesnt work.
-yes i have space on my hard drive about 50gb worth

anybody?

leave it for a while.. my vista install disc is like that.. boots into the screen and mouse cursor, but nothing else.. just have to wait for a while then eventually it will pop up..

I got my keys finally.. now i gotta download the iso on bt.. i kept tryin to dl thru my browser and the dl would drop after like 85 percent

[ZX88]

Im very interested. Only reason i held back on buying a new laptop was because of Vista...
Do you know if 7 has that security feature that asks for permission to run every little thing?
Was playing with a friends new desktop it was very annoying...

you can turn off that setting in control pannel. also win 7 is just vista with very minor fixes. its just like the who Mohave experiment.

i actully like vista better than xp. and i have 7 but havent installed it yet

[blaze]

i tried it with a ps2 keyboard, it still doesnt work.

i waited when the blue screen shows up and it eventually freezes.

ima just stick with my xp.

thanks for the replies

[SimpleS14]

That's odd, sorry about that.

I tired it with a PS/2 keyboard on my old computer (P4) and it worked.

[HyperTek]

sweet... got my key and just installed 64bit over my corrupted vista 64.. works beautifully and i didnt have to reformat .. so it will hold me off for a while.. so far soo good..

Are there any tweaks to remove the "Windows 7 For testing purposes only build 7000" on the bottom right?

[HyperTek]

nvm got the watermark removed... teh send feedback thing i wont worroy about.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2rpeknp.jpg
Alot of people got low on the hard drive part as well
and ive got 2 320gb seagate 7200.10 raid 0
http://i40.tinypic.com/20k7vx0.jpg

[blaze]

lol wow 2x320 and raid0 and only 2.9!

i wonder how they actually rate the categories?

7.9 on the graphics what you got???!?

[HyperTek]

seems alot of people got the same rating.. but some others got higher.. its just a beta though so cant expect much, but i have it on my rig without backing up anything to a spare hdd, so far so good!!

[silviaguy240]

my dad just installed it on our spare comp, i'll mess around with it later to see if i like it or not.

[Pank]

I got like 5 keys for this, so i'm going to see about installing it this weekend.