Volvo turbo KA-t?

[repda916]

i got my hands on a Volvo turbo today.Garret t3? :wiggle:
It was just rebuilt, no shaft play. was wondering if i put this on my KA DE would i see any gains? and would i still have to upgrade the injectors and what not? let me know if its even worth keeping thanks

[Devil Man]

wow get your suit on buddy. may i recomend some specs of the turbo or at the least what year and all that volvo it came from

[bl3ujay07]

no, you will not see any gains adding a turbo to your kade. As a matter of fact, you'll loose so much power and add so much weight to your car, you might as well just get a geo metro. SR's would have SOOOO much more power and gain so much more of everything if it was never turboed in the first place. No wounder people buy n/a sr.

Obviously, there are ups and down, but you cant just slap on a turbo on a motor and expect it to work.

[repda916]

funny you say that
"buddy" but my suit is on.
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[ChiSleepyEyes]

do alot of searching, and make sure u buy a flame suit while your gone, your gunna need it

[blu808]

Not to be mean or anything. But in order to run any turbo you should know what it will flow. You will also need injectors, some sort of thing to control fuel and timing (not afc) manifold, down pipe, etc.


Its not just as easy as hooking up a turbo and letting the poo fly.

[bl3ujay07]

do alot of searching, and make sure u buy a flame suit while your gone, your gunna need it

lol. That cracks me up, flame suit haha.

[norcal_black240]

Since it came off a older volvo i assume its prob a pretty small T3. Slap on a walbro 255, SR 370cc injectors and a tuned ecu.

You could get a fmu/walbro 255 and knock timing back at dizzy or use safc2/walbro 255 and knock timing back, But I dont recommend it.

But like blue808 said some larger injectors and something that controls fuel/timing is good. Also buy a wideband, it will save you a lot of headache's if you hve one.

[sillyvia13]

Not to be mean or anything. But in order to run any turbo you should know what it will flow. You will also need injectors, some sort of thing to control fuel and timing (not afc) manifold, down pipe, etc.


Its not just as easy as hooking up a turbo and letting the poo fly.

I just gotta tell ya Blu, I meet a kid who put a sr t25 on his car. 370 inj stock maf and NO TUNE. 10 psi for 3 years... so odd...lol

He mech tuned his car.

You can smack that pig on and pm me for a Daughter Board for your ecu. Cheap

looks clean.

I'd get 555 inj, a z32 mafs and a ecu tune. at least.
Make a mani, and weld up exh. goooooood to go.

Flame suits are for the weak. I take the heat.

[repda916]

-fmic with piping
-turbo timer
-walbro255 fuil pump
-Volvo T3 turbo/Down pipe
-manual boost controler
-Some BOV
-Sr ingectors
-JGS stg 2 Log manifold
-FMU 8:1
-Wideband

sound good?

[norcal_black240]

-fmic with piping
-turbo timer
-walbro255 fuil pump
-Volvo T3 turbo/Down pipe
-manual boost controler
-Some BOV
-Sr ingectors
-JGS stg 2 Log manifold
-FMU 8:1
-Wideband

sound good?

if your gonna use a fmu you dont need the SR injectors. To be honest it will be a lot easier to source parts if you use a T25 off a SR then you can use the ebay manifold which is super cheap and is proven to work on many ka-t's you can use SR downpipes as well. The ebay SR fmic kits work well to.

If you ditched the fmu, bought some SR injectors, and get a tuned ecu like a EFI specialist which is like 300 bucks your setup will prob be much more reliable and have more power.

[bl3ujay07]

^^^Now you are getting somewhere.

[repda916]

if your gonna use a fmu you dont need the SR injectors. To be honest it will be a lot easier to source parts if you use a T25 off a SR then you can use the ebay manifold which is super cheap and is proven to work on many ka-t's you can use SR downpipes as well. The ebay SR fmic kits work well to.

If you ditched the fmu, bought some SR injectors, and get a tuned ecu like a EFI specialist which is like 300 bucks your setup will prob be much more reliable and have more power.
thanks for the help. guess the turbo is for sale. (Good thing i didnt pay for it at pick n pull:) )
So
-T25
-Sr injectors
-sr downpipe
-ebay manifold

also is there a difference in the SR FMIC and the KA FMIC?

[norcal_black240]

pretty sure you just gotta mod the cold pipe a lil bit. My friend uses a SR fmic kit on his ka-t and the provided piping works fine.

FYI the T25 will not give you big power. It wont even hold full boost to red line on a KA. Try to find a T28 at the least cause you will be much happier. My friend ran a T25 for like a month and was severely disapointed so he upgraded to a gt28, that was not enough so he is rockin a gt30 now.

http://www.efispecialist.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=12

Look into a tuned ecu. This is cheaper than a enthalpy and jim wolf and people have said good things about his tunes and customer support. I dont vouch for him but other people on ka-t.org and nico were pleased with his tunes.

[Pacman]

Flame suits are for the weak. I take the heat.

...And I just found my new signature...

[myreds14]

thanks for the help. guess the turbo is for sale. (Good thing i didnt pay for it at pick n pull:) )
So
-T25
-Sr injectors
-sr downpipe
-ebay manifold

also is there a difference in the SR FMIC and the KA FMIC?

The only difference should be in the piping (if it's a kit).

But please do everyone a favor and do some, no wait, do A LOT of research. Then, ask yourself if you want to get it right the first time or spend tons of extra money fixing mistakes you made because you were in a hurry to get boosted?

Here is my opinion of a solid (mild) setup:

JGS manifold
T3/T4 turbo
555cc injectors
Z32 mafs
Tuned ECU (Calum RT or a used Enthalpy)
Walbro fuel pump
FMIC and piping
BOV (your choice)
WG (your choice)
Custom downpipe or JGS kit if they still make it
Wideband O2 sensor
JGS oil feed/return kit

Things not needed to get started:
Boost controller
Turbo Timer

I'm sure I forgot some things, but since you're about to do a ton of research (http://ka-t.org), you'll find it.

[norcal_black240]

Def. a good suggestion ^

But from what it sounds like he is trying not to spend a grip of money. You can have a reliable setup for under 2,000 but it wont make near the power of your list. Sure he will prob upgrade later on, but in the meantime it will help him learn more about ka-t's and stuff which is not a bad thing.

[HS13KLS]

do alot of searching, and make sure u buy a flame suit while your gone, your gunna need it

your not adding to answering his question.

the comments made are a waste of time.

The only difference should be in the piping (if it's a kit).

But please do everyone a favor and do some, no wait, do A LOT of research. Then, ask yourself if you want to get it right the first time or spend tons of extra money fixing mistakes you made because you were in a hurry to get boosted?

Here is my opinion of a solid (mild) setup:

JGS manifold
T3/T4 turbo
555cc injectors
Z32 mafs
Tuned ECU (Calum RT or a used Enthalpy)
Walbro fuel pump
FMIC and piping
BOV (your choice)
WG (your choice)
Custom downpipe or JGS kit if they still make it
Wideband O2 sensor
JGS oil feed/return kit

Things not needed to get started:
Boost controller
Turbo Timer

I'm sure I forgot some things, but since you're about to do a ton of research (http://ka-t.org), you'll find it.

i agree with you on your key word RESEARCH

there is actually a thread on ka24de-t if you didnt know..

http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/62609-ka24det-faq.html