Dmax coilovers? Anyone?

[sleepy180]

Theres a severe lack of reviews and comments on the dmax. I'm thinking about getting these but wondering hows the drop on these and how would they fit for a daily driver / occasional drift. Stiff? Soft? Anyone got anything?


http://www.carstudio-usa.com/d-max/sus/1.jpg

[ayuaddict]

well, they are dmax so they look really cool, obviously.

i think that dmax makes cool shit and therefore i can conclude that it would probably feel cool.

some cool dudes are gonna come in here saying shit like:

"hey where is the shock dyno? that coilover was made in that there oriental countray and that means its no good, same as megan and kts and all them chinese coilovers"

so you will then be left with (useless) information and will have to make the choice yourself, whether they are for you or not.

basically nullifying the point of creating this thread.

[Brian]

Serei bought my old s14.
He has these on there now.
Maybe he will chime in...

[azndoc]

^^^^ what he said.

Buy it and do a write up.

Be the tip of the sword.

[mr_240sx]

they cant be wrose than meagan and k sport?

[roboticnissan]

^^^^^^just to let everyone know megan and k sport are pretty damn good coil overs. especially for the money. so im assuming these will good as well. too many ppl on this website think they are too ballin so they spend thousands of dollars on coils they prolly dont use for track any way. so i would just try em out. chances are they are better than what you have.

sry for the long message it has to be done

[240lookis]

MAYBE megan for the money, but k sport are straight shit out of my ass. garbage.

[revat619]

^^^^^^just to let everyone know megan and k sport are pretty damn good coil overs. especially for the money. so im assuming these will good as well. too many ppl on this website think they are too ballin so they spend thousands of dollars on coils they prolly dont use for track any way. so i would just try em out. chances are they are better than what you have.

sry for the long message it has to be done


Get serious. They're damn good compared to what?

eh, fuck it. I wont even bother debating that with you...:rolleyes:

Those coilovers are shit.

I can't comment on the Dmax coilovers though.

[ZenkiCam]

meh, this whole ksport thing is lame. my friend drifts every event for the past year on his ksports and havent had a problem. they have gotten better with there stuff.

[roboticnissan]

honestly what do you look for in a coilver. what does any company have that megans not have. and new k sports are good now. try em. im killing it with megan track series. i realize they may bust after a straight year of hard drifting but eh they can be as good as any other company

[ZenkiCam]

your killing what?

[!Zar!]

Fyi, I got a set of regular megans for free.

I even tracked them once.

Shit ruined my day they were so crappy.

I've had/setup countless sets of coils.

meh.

[revat619]

what does any company have that megans not have.

The fact that you made that statment just confirms my notion to not discuss coilover quality with you.

This thread is about Dmax. I dont know anything about them. Judging by the reputation of the company, I would venture to guess that they're probably along the lines of Stances. But again thats only a guess.

[roboticnissan]

meh, this whole ksport thing is lame. my friend drifts every event for the past year on his ksports and havent had a problem. they have gotten better with there stuff.

yes k sport has gotten a lot better and so has megan. i dont understand why ppl bash these companies all the time. they do just fine. 95 percent of the ppl on this site prolly cant tell the difference they just think they ballin

[roboticnissan]

what do ppl buy coilovers for.
stiff ass ride
superior handling over stock.
adjustability.


hmm correct me if im wrong but im almost positive megan coils supply you with all that.



dmax is of similar quality im sure as megan k sport godspeed etc etc

[!Zar!]

what do ppl buy coilovers for.
stiff ass ride
superior handling over stock.
adjustability.


hmm correct me if im wrong but im almost positive megan coils supply you with all that.



dmax is of similar quality im sure as megan k sport godspeed etc etc

Wow.

Fail.

[roboticnissan]

bash bash bash i rock megans all day and all night and so do hundreds of others. i school ppl regardless of there set up. its the skills more than the tools.

[Z33dori]

i had ksports... i thought they were okay...

then i rode on some Stance GR+ and i was convinced to ditch my K's... hell even Stance GR+ pros on 9k/7k felt way softer and gripped way better.

i bought some Apexi N1 (new red ones) thye look exactly like ksports so i sold them.. didn't even waste the time to install them.. Now i'm giving PBM's a shot... i hear lots of good.. so i'm expecting good... and if they don't work out then I''ll be getting some GR+pro

[!Zar!]

bash bash bash i rock megans all day and all night and so do hundreds of others. i school ppl regardless of there set up. its the skills more than the tools.

Spoken like a true child.

If you missed my post, I personally took megans to the TRACK.

Put them through their paces. And they couldn't perform up to par to higher end coilovers I've owned/tested.

That is a FACT.

Of course people like you LOVE megans because you all are use to riding on shocks and springs.

But whatever, have fun with your mountain skillz yo!

[roboticnissan]

i had ksports... i thought they were okay...

then i rode on some Stance GR+ and i was convinced to ditch my K's... hell even Stance GR+ pros on 9k/7k felt way softer and gripped way better.

i bought some Apexi N1 (new red ones) thye look exactly like ksports so i sold them.. didn't even waste the time to install them.. Now i'm giving PBM's a shot... i hear lots of good.. so i'm expecting good... and if they don't work out then I''ll be getting some GR+pro



see this is what im suggesting. just be like this guy. at least try the damn stuff rather than beleive some deusche who once said that if it doesnt cost an arm and a leg its crap.

[roboticnissan]

Spoken like a true child.

If you missed my post, I personally took megans to the TRACK.

Put them through their paces. And they couldn't perform up to par to higher end coilovers I've owned/tested.

That is a FACT.

Of course people like you LOVE megans because you all are use to riding on shocks and springs.

But whatever, have fun with your mountain skillz yo!



perhaps your better than coilovers can perform your maybe the 5 percent who knows. all im saying is that it takes a lot to outperform. give em a try.

[!Zar!]

What?

I don't understand what you said except give them a try.

Maybe you missed BOTH my posts where I said I OWNED SOME AND TESTED THEM.

Sure, they are cool for that.

But once you've had a taste for what an ok coilover can give you, then you would never want to go back.

[roboticnissan]

maybe your skills are better than the megan coil overs. perhaps you actually need a super good set to dish out your immaculate drifts. but who knows. i just dont think that ppl should discredit coilovers like megans and such cuz most ppl dont need super krazy good coil overs cuz they arent super krazy good.

[!Zar!]

Well, can't argue with that logic I guess.

[roboticnissan]

sorry it took so long so long to get my point across but i dont think ppl like you should bash on megan to ppl that arent in dire need of like tanabe 7's or something

[Dousan_PG]

yeah zar give up
this kid knows his shit




/sarcasm

[DMaxUSA]

Sleepy180: If you are coming out to the Red Bull Drift, stop by our booth. You can check out the coilovers for yourself. I know its not as good as actually driving them, but at least you can take a look at it, and I will be there to talk to you about the neat hidden features.

I know there isn't anything I can say that will convince you on the quality of our coilovers (mostly because you guys are gonna think 'He's supposed to say stuff like that'....lol), but our D1 Street Legal drivers use the D Max Coilover on their vehicles and they love it. Nakamura Naoki is actually tied for first place in points ranking, so I honestly believe that our coilovers are perfect for his driving style (which is pretty hardcore BTW). If our coilovers were not up to par, there is no way Nakamura could ever control the car the way he does.....

[mr_240sx]

people that say meagan are great coil overs are people are are coming from KYB/Tokico struts with lowering spring and then go to meagan and have not tried anything else. Sure meagan coilovers lower your car, stiffen it up etc but you cant say that their valving is up to par as stance etc.

[BlueKpS13]

^^^^^^just to let everyone know megan and k sport are pretty damn good coil overs. especially for the money. so im assuming these will good as well. too many ppl on this website think they are too ballin so they spend thousands of dollars on coils they prolly dont use for track any way. so i would just try em out. chances are they are better than what you have.

sry for the long message it has to be done

k-sport coilovers are shit for the money.

dunno about d max. get em and right a review and tell what you think

[surge s14]

MAX>DMAX????

DMAX is only 400 more

[95KA-Turbo]

I got to check out a set of D-Max coilovers in a Up Garage while in Japan. They appeared to be constructed well. Not that it means anything at all, haha.

What matters is what the shims look like/are made out of, what the seals/rubber pieces are made out of and how they'll hold up to abuse. After that it, of course, matters how they're valved. I'd imagine they're valved like ever other coilover made for our cars - completely over dampend. That being said, if I had to guess where D-Max would fall on the scale of "out the box" coilovers. I'd probably guess they're on the same level of stance, they'll slam your car and you wont be able to tell what a good handling suspension would feel like anyway because your roll center is currently located under the road.


:2f2f: :naughty:

[holaback]

The thing about zilvia members is every couple months they have a new coilover that comes out for the us market that everyone swears is better then the last.

JIC to Tein to Silk road to stance to Kei Office to DG-5 to K-sport and so forth.

[derek_s13]

The thing about zilvia members is every couple months they have a new coilover that comes out for the us market that everyone swears is better then the last.

lol that's not zilvia members, that's the fucking world.

cars.

diets.

music.

clothing.



get with the program dude, that's how humanity works...





EDIT: Dmax coilovers look cool, and aren't supercommon. that's all i know.

[ayuaddict]

megans are still around?

can't you get K-BEEs for around the same amount of cash?

[whiterps13]

Seriously, this debate will never end.

Cheap coilovers are like a fucking a fat bitch as a virgin.
Its going to feel good.
Its your first time.

But compare it to something quqlity, which 95% of Megan and KSport owners HAVENT done, and you will truly realize how disgusting it feels.
If you havent driven on anything else, your opinion is worthless.
Hell, I thought Tein Basics felt amazing when I first got them.

[whiterps13]

BTW, do people ever consider the fact that dampers are a wear item?
Can DMax's be rebuilt in the states?
What happens if something goes wrong?

Exactly why so many top midwest guys run Stance.
Touge Factory is right down the street ready to service your shit.

But Im not gonna hate.
The white springs are hot.
Buy them for the looks.

[usdm180sx]

High end coilovers have better dampening characteristics than shitty brands. Full adjustability on shitty brand coilovers? BFD. Better dampening characteristics ftw. Why? More control over bumps and other uneven surfaces that would otherwise unsettle the car and cause the driver to lose control. Done and done.

[RanciD]

what do ppl buy coilovers for.
stiff ass ride
superior handling over stock.
adjustability.


hmm correct me if im wrong but im almost positive megan coils supply you with all that.



dmax is of similar quality im sure as megan k sport godspeed etc etc

1. How exactly does a "stiff ass ride" benefit you? It's painful on the street and it makes the car easily unsettled by the slightest bumps and debris on the track.
2. Please tell me exactly why you think you need adjustability.

[smelly240]

BASE MODEL KSPORTS ARE WHACK. I have the step up from the "kontrol" and they still are kinda not the good.

next ill be getting stance or maybe k-bee. logan still sells those right?

[S13shaka]

lol, roboticnissan got pwnted and he does not even realize it

[Z33dori]

High end coilovers have better dampening characteristics than shitty brands. Full adjustability on shitty brand coilovers? BFD. Better dampening characteristics ftw. Why? More control over bumps and other uneven surfaces that would otherwise unsettle the car and cause the driver to lose control. Done and done.

finally some one mentioned it.

Ksports have some of the worst valving i can think of.

you only feel a diff in 3 or the 32 adjustments. Full soft/Medium(which is still really soft)/ Full Hard. I kept mine a FH the entire time i had them b/c it was the most comfortable ride they gave. On FS or M, they still bounced around on the streets like cut springs, it was horrible.

then i rode on the 2 diff sets of Stance, GR+/GR+PRO, my god what a diff good valving makes. From my small amount of experince, i would have to say valving is everything in coilovers.

I will give Ksports the respect for designing their coilovers. I took one hell of a challenge when i bought them. Everyone talks shit about them, but all the fuckers say is that they blow as soon as you hit pot hole, that is all ppl complain about. Why b/c they have never rode on a set. I loved them when i 1st got them, i was noob, it was expected. The very 1st day i had them i ran over about 6 pot holes nothing. When i sold them in June, after i had moved up to Ohio, i think i put those coilovers through tougher terrain test than the Nissan test course, and guess what they never fucking blew.

But besides that the valving is horrible... but they slam well. that is what you can expect out of the -El-cheapo coils over kits.

[DMaxUSA]

BTW, do people ever consider the fact that dampers are a wear item?
Can DMax's be rebuilt in the states?
What happens if something goes wrong?

Exactly why so many top midwest guys run Stance.
Touge Factory is right down the street ready to service your shit.

But Im not gonna hate.
The white springs are hot.
Buy them for the looks.


Since it is too big a venture to build a tech department in the U.S., we have a parts exchange program. So when the dampers need to be replaced, we will send you new dampers (if not under warranty, customer will be charged for replacement parts).

Unfortunately we will not be able to offer custom valving at this moment...Sorry guys...

[QuickSpoolSR]

summary-
you can spend 900 on some megans that you will get made fun of for, and really arent that good or 1200 on some stance that you will be respected for and have a good ride, and they are easily serviceable.. idk why anyone wouldnt just shell out the extra 300

[S13SilviaGirl]

From the experience I have with other DMax products, I am going to venture a guess and say that their coil overs are going to be of a pretty descent quality. The guys running DMax USA are stand up guys, and I had the wonderful opportunity to meet Koji-san in Japan. He wants his customers happy (Bernard as well). Just like Logan, wanting happy customers it is a RARE trait to have in the aftermarket automotive industry. Most companies that are just out there for the money will have a high volume of sales and not give two winds about the customer after the sale. I bought my parts off of Koji in Japan, and to this day, I still have contact with him....almost a year later. How many people can say they have that kind of customer service? Not many.

[usdm180sx]

I talked to Bernard at Formula D and the D-Max coils actually have some nice features. For instance the mounting holes have ring spacers for those people who did an s14 5 lug conversion on their s13. You don't have to drill out the coilover mounting holes with these. They are also inverted monotube so they are stronger. I don't know about the dampening quality though.

[s13dan]

so after all this talk... DOES ANYONE HAVE A SET OF DMAX AND HAVE A FIRST HAND VERDICT????

[ZX88]

meh, this whole ksport thing is lame. my friend drifts every event for the past year on his ksports and havent had a problem. they have gotten better with there stuff.

ive been running on ksports for 1.5 years nothing wrong with them. but these look cool on the outside lol.

[wynnEZ]

So im glad this thread has nothing to do with Dmax. BTW Enjuku Racing drifted on Megans for the first 2 seasons I think. Seems like they worked well for them...

[SimpleSexy180]

seriously though....

dmax is most likely the same shit as the other lower end

[stillen]

Coilovers are not for daily driving. They are all stiff. My biggest mistake was putting coilovers on. just get some good lowering springs and big ass sway bars like largus and all the other braces, strut bars, wheel spacers and your car will corner good enough for the street and be comfortable.

[Sonic Motor]

hey Bernard, hook me up with a set for my S13, I'll give the comparo vs the megans on my car ;)

[usdm180sx]

So im glad this thread has nothing to do with Dmax. BTW Enjuku Racing drifted on Megans for the first 2 seasons I think. Seems like they worked well for them...

I bet if they used DG-5, Cusco Comp Zero2 or Zeal Function D they would have done better

[thefro526]

Was checking out some stuff on Dmax awhile back and read up on some pricing and info and have a magazine with one of their Japanese ads, and they look like there very well constructed. I know for a fact they've been campaigned extensively in Japan for at least a few years so you know they're good enough to track.

It's more or less of a case where you need to ask yourself "do I need great coilovers at a pretty good price?" or "Do I want to be cheap and buy some crappy coilovers and run the risk of the blowing, breaking, or not working right?"

[sleepy180]

Well at the time i thought this thread was a good idea. But fuckin A not all but maybe 2 posts were worthless.

[DMaxUSA]

I came across this blog post by Touge Factory. It might help shed some light on your question:

Tougefactory » Ever wonder what coilover systems top professional drivers use in Japan? (http://tougefactory.com/blog/?p=21)

[McRussellPants]

So im glad this thread has nothing to do with Dmax. BTW Enjuku Racing drifted on Megans for the first 2 seasons I think. Seems like they worked well for them...

They also ran on cooper all seasons for the first two seasons.

The car was slow as fuck.

Its not a matter of if you can do it, but once you drive a car with coilovers not made by playskool you'll never want to go back.