Zenki HID Questions

[Dlauth]

I ordered a drop in HID kit. Was wondering what would make it look better and produce less glare/even light spread. Would a clear / non flutted lens help? Also Should I Paint the housing black? Any help appreciated.

[OptionZero]

reflectors suck
the zenki uses reflectors

those reflectors weren't intended for HID
reflectors that aren't intended for HID suck

therefore your idea sucks

if you care at all about proper lighting (actual visibility improvement, no glare for opposing drivers), you will do a more labor intensive retrofit of OEM or similar quality HID PROJECTOR

if you want to add a kewl entry to your mod list, have no money, or just want blue/green/purple headlights, get some cheapshit drop in kit

aint judging
just truthtellin

well, i'm judging a little bit

[SilviaSR20DET]

Yeah id have to agree with ^^^ i personally have the drop in hid kit and its really no use. The reflectors produce alot of glare and blinding oncoming traffic so i suggest using oem or do a retrofit projector in the housing.

[SlideWell]

i use SuperMade covers and a 5k HID kit. i give a fuck about oncoming traffic here in seattle. i get blinded by luxury cars and trucks alike. so whos the asshole, the auto maker or the auto enthusiast.

[!Zar!]

Ugh.


I don't even want to respond to that.

[Yellow4g63]

I ordered a drop in HID kit. Was wondering what would make it look better and produce less glare/even light spread. Would a clear / non flutted lens help? Also Should I Paint the housing black? Any help appreciated.

Clear covers and S2k projector retro fit will do good.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q211/Bluerb240/240%20stuff/clearlense2.jpg

[xtreme_s14]

-you rolled a seven! move seven spaces forward.

-chance! if you care about other's visibility while driving with HIDs please do not proceed with installing HIDs on your zenki headlights!

-you rolled a four! move forward four spaces.

-community chest! do not attempt making custom projectors for your zenki headlights because they will look like ass!

-you rolled an eleven! move forward eleven spaces. GO TO JAIL!

-this is where you will end up if you happen to blind any cops or cause any accidents due to your illegal modification!

-you rolled an eight (2 fours)! get out of jail!

-straighten up and fly right! convert to kouki headlights if you a) care about other's visibility AND b) want HIDs

sorry just got done playing monopoly with the fam-bam!

[LA_phantom_240]

-community chest! do not attempt making custom projectors for your zenki headlights because they will look like ass!

Bullshit. With the right shroud, they look mighty fine. Don't discourage anyone who might want to try just because YOU suck ass at it.

[ixfxi]

i use SuperMade covers and a 5k HID kit. i give a fuck about oncoming traffic here in seattle. i get blinded by luxury cars and trucks alike. so whos the asshole, the auto maker or the auto enthusiast.


wow.............. thats great advice.


tool.

[Slidin240Wayz]

i use SuperMade covers and a 5k HID kit. i give a fuck about oncoming traffic here in seattle. i get blinded by luxury cars and trucks alike. so whos the asshole, the auto maker or the auto enthusiast.


The selfish, lazy auto enthusiast who does not care about other people's safety.

The DMV should offer a license specifically for "enthusiast" driver's to make sure they don't build them like ass.

JDM Zenki Housing
Clear Covers
Acura TSX HID Projector
4300k Phillips HID Bulb

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408050.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408046.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408034.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408018.jpg

[xtreme_s14]

Bullshit. With the right shroud, they look mighty fine. Don't discourage anyone who might want to try just because YOU suck ass at it.

ok! forget what i said.. they don't look like ass! they look like a horrific boob job where the doctor caused the nipples to look googly-eyed! ..and i'll admit at one point, YES i thought about making a custom projector for the zenki headlights, but i would not use overly large projectors to make them! ..and on top of that paint the reflector black?! leave it as is.. i think i've seen ONE decently custom projector headlights! i'll search for it later.. but for now, i'm off to work!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/greeneyez03/0728081747a.jpg

VS

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408018.jpg

[murda-c]

Use the rectangular qx4 projectors.

http://a461.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_dc3477ba1a8da1c865b33e5afa8945cc.jpg

[SilviaSR20DET]

personally id just go with the german headlights and use oem bulbs as they are clearer and look better too!

[!Zar!]

lol at the fail and stupidity in this thread lol.

[LA_phantom_240]

ok! forget what i said.. they don't look like ass! they look like a horrific boob job where the doctor caused the nipples to look googly-eyed! ..and i'll admit at one point, YES i thought about making a custom projector for the zenki headlights, but i would not use overly large projectors to make them! ..and on top of that paint the reflector black?! leave it as is.. i think i've seen ONE decently custom projector headlights! i'll search for it later.. but for now, i'm off to work!

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/greeneyez03/0728081747a.jpg

VS

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/Cdoria/Drift%20S14/022408018.jpg
Function over form, my man.

TSX projectors may be large, but they're some of the best projectors made. Super intense, super wide, and fairly easy to work with.

Use the rectangular qx4 projectors.

http://a461.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_dc3477ba1a8da1c865b33e5afa8945cc.jpg

Those are highbeam projectors. I looked into them at one point in time.

[S14DB]

i use SuperMade covers and a 5k HID kit. i give a fuck about oncoming traffic here in seattle. i get blinded by luxury cars and trucks alike. so whos the asshole, the auto maker or the auto enthusiast.

How is eliminating the fresnels helping the problem? Just let more light all over the place.

The problem is in the reflector which is more of a U shape for the Halogen Bulb emission center. HID reflectors are more of a parabola shape. Putting a HID bulb in the halogen reflector puts the light center in the wrong place and throws off the beam dispersion and color.

What you need is to replace the back half with the reflector not the cover. Find a HID reflector that fits with a D2R mount. Screw putting a D2S bulb in a Halogen reflector.

YouTube - Illegal HID Convesion Kits Explained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw)

[anthony240]

i was thinkin of rectangular/oval projectors as well. found these:

http://a601.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_043408b107068ecf3bf086c811062ba0.jpg

http://a503.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/73/l_e05880f127e37c0210c11d650a2a515e.jpg

great attempt but aesthetically and functionally hideous.

[!Zar!]

I haven't heard/seen much about a rectangular projector.

[SlideWell]

How is eliminating the fresnels helping the problem? Just let more light all over the place.

The problem is in the reflector which is more of a U shape for the Halogen Bulb emission center. HID reflectors are more of a parabola shape. Putting a HID bulb in the halogen reflector puts the light center in the wrong place and throws off the beam dispersion and color.

What you need is to replace the back half with the reflector not the cover. Find a HID reflector that fits with a D2R mount. Screw putting a D2S bulb in a Halogen reflector.

YouTube - Illegal HID Convesion Kits Explained (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVuSSdZNsZw)

my shit does not look like ass. what does tend to look like ass is certain projectors in zenki's. like a few pictured. i havent even driven my car yet, its still being built. dont get me wrong, il retrofit as soon as i can if im getting flashed a bunch. i love projectors and would like a smaller (tsx) projector in mine. i shouldnt have to say, high kelvin HID's from luxury cars are only approved because they come from the manufacturer, duh. seriously, i wanna hear someone tell me they ARENT blinded by their HIDS. i see plenty of pro-am drifters rock 13k kits and still drive on the streets, so what does that say. i dunno. but good to know i piss people off here, i like pissin people off sometimes :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/TEMP-Image_1_16.jpg

[!Zar!]

Getting a flash fomr a car with hid's because they are cresting over a hill, or jostling over a bump is one thing. But being blinded constantly by a car equip from the factory with hid's and projectors isn't true.

If whatever you're driving is lowered than of course you are going to be blinded by headlights being as how you are positioning yourself in their cutoff.

Because most cars cutoff goes about as high as a cars bumper~ so I don't see how they would be aimed up to your head.

Not to mention most lux cars have auto adjusting headlights.

[ixfxi]

my shit does not look like ass. what does tend to look like ass is certain projectors in zenki's. like a few pictured. i havent even driven my car yet, its still being built. dont get me wrong, il retrofit as soon as i can if im getting flashed a bunch. i love projectors and would like a smaller (tsx) projector in mine. i shouldnt have to say, high kelvin HID's from luxury cars are only approved because they come from the manufacturer, duh. seriously, i wanna hear someone tell me they ARENT blinded by their HIDS. i see plenty of pro-am drifters rock 13k kits and still drive on the streets, so what does that say. i dunno. but good to know i piss people off here, i like pissin people off sometimes :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/TEMP-Image_1_16.jpg


do me a favor, fruitcake.. dont complain about GLARE when you're driving a fucking 240SX. drive a miata, THEN you have the right to complain about glare... because every car even a 1971 dodge "rape" van will have blinding lights.

look at the facts, when you drive a lowered car you deal with the consequences:
- difficulty when entering steep driveways
- hitting bumpstops
- slowing / scraping over speed bumps
- glare from other vehicles

higher kelvin bulbs arent approved? they arent acceptable in ANY means. factory xenon is 4300k, thats the only bulb that is generally sold and accepted by REAL manufacturers (not including the million of 13zillion kelvin knockoff bulbs sold by charlie-chan).

i've said it before and will say it again: if you want better lighting, buy the german glass headlights. if you want better than that, buy 97-98 and have them retrofitted.

you guys are wasting time and money fucking around with these shitty 95-96 headlights. and to you shitty vendors who sell HID kits, you guys should know better because that shit is illegal. anyone who disagrees is a liar and i challenge them to show me how they are compliant.

mike / clearcorners.com

[fliprayzin240sx]

Fuck you bitches...I like my TSX retrofit!!! Well just cuz its cheaper than piecing together a kouki front end. I hate stock zenki headlights with a fucking passion...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_3_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_5_full.jpg

[BlckBeautyVTEC]

Stock Zenki headlights with HID isnt even that bad, its way better than stock, clean up the lens and call it a day who gives a shit, only person who ever had a sick projector retrofit in zenki headlights was scooter, those other ones (as seen as above) look bobo

[LA_phantom_240]

Fuck you bitches...I like my TSX retrofit!!! Well just cuz its cheaper than piecing together a kouki front end. I hate stock zenki headlights with a fucking passion...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_3_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_5_full.jpg

All you would need to make it look factory is a nice factory projector shroud.

I personally like my Zenki headlights. Much better than any s13 or other popup light vehicle I've owned. Not as good as my Acura Legend was, but still nice.

[TheArkitekt]

wow a memeber since 07 and you dont know the cardinal rules of Zilvia?

#1. NEVER TALK ABOUT DROP IN HID KITS!!!

[ixfxi]

Fuck you bitches...I like my TSX retrofit!!! Well just cuz its cheaper than piecing together a kouki front end. I hate stock zenki headlights with a fucking passion...

whats the point of mentioning price?

if you talk about price, it means you obviously cannot afford something.

whats the point of having a baller paint job, baller wheels, baller turbo motor.. if you cant justify splurging on proper lighting (which if i may, has a lot to do with safety.)

for most people, german glass headlights with a good quality halogen bulb/relay setup is all you need.

for big ballers & shot callers, empty your bank account and go 97-98. at the very least you'll have nice GLASS projector headlights which can be easily upgraded with xenon projectors. at least your car wont look like cyclops when its all done.


its like having a nice suit and a cheap downtown special rolex watch.

[gario-]

personally id just go with the german headlights and use oem bulbs as they are clearer and look better too!

take advice from the man. I hate his headlights.

[S14TEENZ]

i have pink HIDs and they look sick.....lol.....just clean the headlights with polish and the other stuuf and ur set.
zenki headlights do suck...but its a 240 so im gld with'em

[Matej]

wow a memeber since 07 and you dont know the cardinal rules of Zilvia?

#1. NEVER TALK ABOUT DROP IN HID KITS!!!
Haha exactly.




http://lithe.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/nike-just-do-it.jpg

[fliprayzin240sx]

whats the point of mentioning price?

if you talk about price, it means you obviously cannot afford something.

whats the point of having a baller paint job, baller wheels, baller turbo motor.. if you cant justify splurging on proper lighting (which if i may, has a lot to do with safety.)

for most people, german glass headlights with a good quality halogen bulb/relay setup is all you need.

for big ballers & shot callers, empty your bank account and go 97-98. at the very least you'll have nice GLASS projector headlights which can be easily upgraded with xenon projectors. at least your car wont look like cyclops when its all done.


its like having a nice suit and a cheap downtown special rolex watch.

Well Mike, only reason i did it was to get better lighting output. I figured, why bother with a kouki front end? If I did the front end conversion, light output still sucks without modifying the kouki headlights (better projectors and OEM hid setups). Mo money mo money mo money that the mil doesnt exactly just throw at me. I'd rather spend that money on other shit than on a chassis thats gonna end up in an okinawa junkyard in 2 more years.

PFC, 850cc and Turbo > Kouki front end.

[ixfxi]

Well Mike, only reason i did it was to get better lighting output. I figured, why bother with a kouki front end? If I did the front end conversion, light output still sucks without modifying the kouki headlights (better projectors and OEM hid setups). Mo money mo money mo money that the mil doesnt exactly just throw at me. I'd rather spend that money on other shit than on a chassis thats gonna end up in an okinawa junkyard in 2 more years.

PFC, 850cc and Turbo > Kouki front end.


we all spend money where we feel its necessary.

if your car is going to end up in a junkyard, thats all on you bro. i dont build up cars so they can end up in the trash bin - i build them up because i plan on keeping and enjoying them for the years to come.

if you're buying an ecu/turbo/injectors for a car that will end up in the gutter - you're quite possibly one of the least business savy people i've ever come across.

not that cars are investments by any means, but i personally wouldnt put 1 penny toward anything if i had the expectation of it being in the dumpster tomorrow.

its just like tires, you find people who think cheap tires are acceptable and then spend money on better brakes. what_the_fuck is the point? good tires is the best insurance you can put on any automobile: handling, braking, acceleration is all effected by your tires.

same applies to lighting. people will gladly spend $200 on cheap charlie-chan made clear lenses that eliminate any form of beam pattern your car SHOULD have, and then another hundred or two on yet again, a charlie-chan made HID kit which is not even designed to conform with any type of beam pattern. what do you get? $400 dollars + wasted time for a car that emits a blob of pretty purplish blue light. NICE. now they're safety and other peoples safety is at risk.

lets assume that most 240SX owners live at home, dont work.. and if they do, they work for minimum wage and daydream all day about how dope they want to make their rustbucket "one day." as broke as a person can be, theres no excuse for not researching and not saving and planning to do things THE RIGHT WAY.

ps: not criticizing you, at least your setup works and makes you happy. i dont think it looks right on the car, but thats just my opinion.

[fliprayzin240sx]

we all spend money where we feel its necessary.

if your car is going to end up in a junkyard, thats all on you bro. i dont build up cars so they can end up in the trash bin - i build them up because i plan on keeping and enjoying them for the years to come.

if you're buying an ecu/turbo/injectors for a car that will end up in the gutter - you're quite possibly one of the least business savy people i've ever come across.

not that cars are investments by any means, but i personally wouldnt put 1 penny toward anything if i had the expectation of it being in the dumpster tomorrow.

its just like tires, you find people who think cheap tires are acceptable and then spend money on better brakes. what_the_fuck is the point? good tires is the best insurance you can put on any automobile: handling, braking, acceleration is all effected by your tires.

same applies to lighting. people will gladly spend $200 on cheap charlie-chan made clear lenses that eliminate any form of beam pattern your car SHOULD have, and then another hundred or two on yet again, a charlie-chan made HID kit which is not even designed to conform with any type of beam pattern. what do you get? $400 dollars + wasted time for a car that emits a blob of pretty purplish blue light. NICE. now they're safety and other peoples safety is at risk.

lets assume that most 240SX owners live at home, dont work.. and if they do, they work for minimum wage and daydream all day about how dope they want to make their rustbucket "one day." as broke as a person can be, theres no excuse for not researching and not saving and planning to do things THE RIGHT WAY.

ps: not criticizing you, at least your setup works and makes you happy. i dont think it looks right on the car, but thats just my opinion.

I forgot you havent been around to know my situation...I got stationed in Okinawa, Japan. I'm not planning on dropping $12k to ship a rusting 15 yr old S14 chassis back to the states. If I cant mail it back thru military shipping/USPS, its a risk that I wont be able to bring it back with me if I go back to the states. Engine and stuff, for the most part, I can break them down and mail them back in boxes. Thats why I said the chassis will end up in the junkyard, but not after I take what I can off it. The horrible Target Bodykit can go with it cuz I utterly fucking hate that too. :keke:

Anyways, I agree with what you pretty much said with lighting. Hell, thats the reason why I decided to go OEM TSX. It may not be the prettiest thing in the world since its a retrofit into the stock halogen housing but it works the way its intended. No fucked up cut offs, no charlie-chan made debased ghetto bulbs. All OEM TSX housing, ballast and bulbs. I learned that shit from you. :kiss:

[Sileighty_85]

hey fliprayzin if you got questions or want any tips on mailin your engine and stuff back let me know, I did it when I was there.

[Yellow4g63]

Fuck you bitches...I like my TSX retrofit!!! Well just cuz its cheaper than piecing together a kouki front end. I hate stock zenki headlights with a fucking passion...

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_3_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_5_full.jpg

That looks good how much cutting did you have to do?

[ixfxi]

I forgot you havent been around to know my situation...I got stationed in Okinawa, Japan.

it works, for now. i see that and can respect that. especially since the lights are functional.. just not aesthetic.

good luck on finding a non-butt-raped chassis when you come back to the states.

[S14DB]

my shit does not look like ass. what does tend to look like ass is certain projectors in zenki's. like a few pictured. i havent even driven my car yet, its still being built. dont get me wrong, il retrofit as soon as i can if im getting flashed a bunch. i love projectors and would like a smaller (tsx) projector in mine. i shouldnt have to say, high kelvin HID's from luxury cars are only approved because they come from the manufacturer, duh. seriously, i wanna hear someone tell me they ARENT blinded by their HIDS. i see plenty of pro-am drifters rock 13k kits and still drive on the streets, so what does that say. i dunno. but good to know i piss people off here, i like pissin people off sometimes :)
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a196/PearlWhiteS14/TEMP-Image_1_16.jpg

The color in high end cars is what's called a color cut or color mod. There is a hair thin cut in the cut off baffle. About 1cm down from the cut off. This throws color onto the lenses and what you see.

The bulbs are still 4300K and the light on the ground is still white.


Lighting on drift cars is for show not night driving.

[xtreme_s14]

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member_images/9/web/2949000-2949999/2949802_3_full.jpg

this i can appreciate.. it flows well and looks A LOT better than just throwing on projectors and painting the reflector black for the low beams. this person actually took the time to make the corner lights black and the divider between the high and low beams as well.. if anything, i'd throw some "eyelid" covers to accent the visage and what do you know? you've got HIDs on zenki headlights that look damn decent! well done! no arguments please!

[Mangudai]

Why doesn't anyone use bmw projectors

[LA_phantom_240]

Because they're typically on the lower end scale of intensity and cutoff sharpness.

[ixfxi]

Why doesn't anyone use bmw projectors

they do.

its just that the lighting fanboys are all about "color mods" and modifying their shields for "razor sharp cutoff" which btw, is all a bunch of bullshit.

leave the fucking projectors alone and swap the ones that fit best with the least amount of modification. unfortunately, many of the hobbyists (and i will continue to call them hobbyists as they are not professionals) think that they know what they are doing when they dont have access to photometric tools to test light output and intensity changes.

its like trying to tune your car without a dyno - leave it to the pros, they have the tools, resources and knowledge.

[k's_silvia2.0]

^Holy shit.......he lives.

[LA_phantom_240]

they do.

its just that the lighting fanboys are all about "color mods" and modifying their shields for "razor sharp cutoff" which btw, is all a bunch of bullshit.

leave the fucking projectors alone and swap the ones that fit best with the least amount of modification. unfortunately, many of the hobbyists (and i will continue to call them hobbyists as they are not professionals) think that they know what they are doing when they dont have access to photometric tools to test light output and intensity changes.

its like trying to tune your car without a dyno - leave it to the pros, they have the tools, resources and knowledge.


What's wrong with tweaking the projectors for what YOU want out of them? Its no different to me than modifying your car with wheels, aero, etc. Why not just leave the fucking car stock? Oh wait, cause that's boring.

And who would be a 'professional'? And why do you have this mentality like you're the fucking king or something? To me, you're just an arrogant jackass. Why not contribute to the thread, instead of downing other people?

[Yellow4g63]

Ok now tell him how you really feel.

[ixfxi]

What's wrong with tweaking the projectors for what YOU want out of them? Its no different to me than modifying your car with wheels, aero, etc. Why not just leave the fucking car stock? Oh wait, cause that's boring.

And who would be a 'professional'? And why do you have this mentality like you're the fucking king or something? To me, you're just an arrogant jackass. Why not contribute to the thread, instead of downing other people?

from a hobbyist-standpoint - there's no problem at all. once you start accepting money for something you're doing, you arent a hobbyist anymore - you're a business. When you accept money for something, you are exchanging dollars for expertise. Once you understand the concept of LIABILITY, thats when you start researching to make sure that what you're doing wont negatively effect and/or endanger other people.

Lets look at some facts here. The very same sponsors who generate ad revenue for the forums we visit, are the same vendors who are illegally selling rebased HID kits that are not legal for sale in most countries. Its not illegal because its "cool," the kits are illegal because they are flawed products. I never sold these kits back then and I still dont sell these kits now. You think I dont want to make money? I love making money. I just dont make money jeopardizing the welfare of my customers.

The same applies to HID retrofits, color modding, etc. Its bad enough that projector retrofitting is technically illegal, thats not the problem. The problem is that people think they know what they're doing when they dont have the equipment or the expertise.

---

btw, if you're 20 years old now and i've been doing this for over 10 years, then that means i've been doing this since you were at most, 10 years of age. go play some more nintendo before you open your mouth about something you dont know about.

[OBEEWON]

Everyone talking about blinding on coming traffic is an idiot and your mothers should be ashamed by your sheer stupidity. Curse the day you were born and the cervix you dropped from. Your fathers should be stricken sterile and rewarded with jock itch for all the days of thier lives. May your curse be visited upon your children, and your children's children, and thier dogs and cats, even unto the 3rd and fourth generations respectively.



Installing projectors doesn't point your beam pattern up. Kouki projectors suck baby bottle. Most Zenki retrofits look like digested bean curd.

Dumb dummy...

[KOUKIboy]

Yo check this out, this dude did a bad ass job with some Bimmer projectors. Installed Projectors on S14 Zenki.......Pics inside...... - Automotive Forums .com Car Chat (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/t497538.html)

[fliprayzin240sx]

Figured I'd bump this just to show the light output. Only reason I went with TSX projectors are because from what Ive seen, they require the least amount of cutting on the internal housing on the Zenki headlights. For the money, TSX OEM hids are probably the best bang for the buck. I contemplated on running S2K HIDs but that shits alot more cutting for the projector itself, not just for the housing.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3294.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3295.jpg

Glare was a lil high on the left, its been adjusted alot lower.

[!Zar!]

Have any pics against a flat surface?

[Yellow4g63]

Figured I'd bump this just to show the light output. Only reason I went with TSX projectors are because from what Ive seen, they require the least amount of cutting on the internal housing on the Zenki headlights. For the money, TSX OEM hids are probably the best bang for the buck. I contemplated on running S2K HIDs but that shits alot more cutting for the projector itself, not just for the housing.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3294.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/Zenki%20S14/IMG_3295.jpg

Glare was a lil high on the left, its been adjusted alot lower.

Whats that triple gauge cluster on the dash?

[LA_phantom_240]

from a hobbyist-standpoint - there's no problem at all. once you start accepting money for something you're doing, you arent a hobbyist anymore - you're a business. When you accept money for something, you are exchanging dollars for expertise. Once you understand the concept of LIABILITY, thats when you start researching to make sure that what you're doing wont negatively effect and/or endanger other people.

Lets look at some facts here. The very same sponsors who generate ad revenue for the forums we visit, are the same vendors who are illegally selling rebased HID kits that are not legal for sale in most countries. Its not illegal because its "cool," the kits are illegal because they are flawed products. I never sold these kits back then and I still dont sell these kits now. You think I dont want to make money? I love making money. I just dont make money jeopardizing the welfare of my customers.

The same applies to HID retrofits, color modding, etc. Its bad enough that projector retrofitting is technically illegal, thats not the problem. The problem is that people think they know what they're doing when they dont have the equipment or the expertise.

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btw, if you're 20 years old now and i've been doing this for over 10 years, then that means i've been doing this since you were at most, 10 years of age. go play some more nintendo before you open your mouth about something you dont know about.
I agree that people who have no idea what they're doing, and endangering others in the process should be punished. Doing it correctly, however, is another story. I dunno about other people, but when I - say - build myself an LED dome light or third brake light or something, I don't just slap it on and call it a day. I do my research on what kind of current those LEDs need, what their forward voltage is, etc. then I build the board and test it. I test the hell out of it. I spend more money making sure they stand up to abuse before I even get close to my car with them. I know that others don't do the same, and so I can't imagine what the hell they're thinking or why they think the way they do. I personally wouldn't sell something I think is unsafe or anything I wouldn't put on my own vehicles.

But here's where you piss me off. Sure you have experience, that's fine and dandy... but that doesn't mean I know nothing. I've spent countless hours messing with components, reading about their designs and how they function, and their uses. I've read just about everything I can get my hands on up to this point, and am fairly confident that with some patience, I can create lighting systems up there with the big dogs. Maybe not for the same cost because I'm sure you get discounts on LEDs and such, buying in volume and what not. But the fact remains that anyone with some patience, the ability to read and comprehend, and the ability to take what he has learned and use it in a practical way instead of just theory... can do just what you do.

For some of us, having superior lighting is important. For others, they like the looks of their illegal HID kits, because they look cool to their friends. Then there are those who want something better than stock, without having to take out a second mortgage.

Are the TSX projectors better than stock? Yes. Are they affordable? Yes. Are there better options? With some more extensive headlight modification, there sure are.

There isn't one right way to do things. Right has become a subjective term. The only real "right" way to do 240 lighting is to leave it stock, because overwattage bulbs are for offroad use, HID in our cars is illegal, and I think the only thing we can really get (zenki guys at least) is the German glass headlights.

[Bahdra]

convert your 14 to a 13 get some triple and get down like its 1985

[LA_phantom_240]

convert your 14 to a 13 get some triple and get down like its 1985

No, because A) Halogen projectors suck, due to the fact that the beam is so narrow in order to focus the little bit of light halogen bulbs produce where you need it most and B) They're old as fuck and the technology just isn't there... not to mention they're RHD projectors. So in a nutshell, if you go triple you gotta put in proper projectors anyway.