View Full Version : the best head ever!!!!!
whereda40at
11-10-2008, 10:40 PM
i have a s13 sr20det with a brian crower 2.35L stroker. i have in the head just hks step 1 cams. in april i have emissions here in md. my car failed last time and i had to do $400 worth of emissions stuff to get a 2 year wavier. my emissoins is coming up again in april and i have to do the same thing again. but this time i want to do the whole head. sence it is 6 months from now. so money is not an issue for the cost of the head.
my question is....if you had unlimited amount of money, what would you do to make the baddest head. from top to bottom. i just made 347whp on a 2876r on ma-motorsports dyno. so i need to build the head anyway to go forward.
how much would your final cost be?
90hatchie
11-10-2008, 10:45 PM
fully port and polished and all tomei parts
done
soon2bs13
11-10-2008, 10:48 PM
Port and Polish
272 Cams with Gears
Springs/Retainers
Valves
Rocker Arm Stoppers ;-)
s13dan
11-10-2008, 10:50 PM
fully port and polished and all tomei parts
done
^^^what he said + some experienced guy to do all the work.
garagelu
11-10-2008, 10:51 PM
If I had unlimited amount of money, I would send my head off to Mazworx and have them cnc port it and have them build the whole head with what they recommend.
touge monster
11-10-2008, 10:53 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about something else..
I thought this thread was going to be about something else..
I to was swindled.lol
BBSilvia
11-10-2008, 11:19 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about something else..
dirty minds.....to bad i thought the same thing haha
SexPanda
11-10-2008, 11:31 PM
i was about to say congratulations... but yeah...
Anyhow, port and polish the head, rocker arms, springs, over sized valves, a 5 way valve job, rocker arm retainers, and just for the hell of it, anodize the entire head purple.
soon2bs13
11-10-2008, 11:34 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about something else..
We need a :slap: smiley. So I can slap you. :rofl:
Ca_Silvia
11-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Best head i ever paid for was from this polish chi....i mean tomei, ya tomei everyting, with 272's.
redline racer510
11-11-2008, 09:28 AM
i would send my head to HKS Kansai and have them build it.
Project3328
11-11-2008, 09:37 AM
port polish
valve job
bronze valve guides
1mm oversized valves
and the hks lash killer kit
with some aggresive cams
Om1kron
11-11-2008, 09:38 AM
fully port and polished and all tomei parts
done
yeah ok what degree cams, what kind of angle on the valve job, are ports necessary or just a good polish, removing quench area, yada ya.
Headwork doesn't always necessarily mean I got a credit card with a 6000 dollar limit and I still live at mom and dads, what should I buy guys. Please add some intelligence to your answers.
And I would probably go HKS over Tomei if I were building a super aggressive head, but if this car is street driven and not raced in a straight line I don't see the point. How do you plan on passing fucking emissions adding on to how much your car polutes?
I'm not sure what your goals are so I wouldn't know what to tell you. It all depends on what you want to do, do you want nothing but top end power, do you want it strong enough to rev the piss out of it, because you will have to do work to the intake manifold as well. (port matching and machining) larger throttle body, yada ya.
drftmark
11-11-2008, 10:06 AM
Why are a lot of people saying 272 cams?
I think the best head should be made to support the TURBO you are running, not just big everything.
Best head i ever paid for was from this polish chi....i mean tomei, ya tomei everyting, with 272's.
And pics of said polish chi.
smelly240
11-11-2008, 10:10 AM
just give it to mark @ mazworks. - they can do bigger head studs also ;)
soon2bs13
11-11-2008, 10:11 AM
Why are a lot of people saying 272 cams?
I think the best head should be made to support the TURBO you are running, not just big everything.
I think you should build the best head and then buy the best turbo to support it. The OP said money is unlimited.
redline racer510
11-11-2008, 10:13 AM
I still say HKS Kansai
s13dan
11-11-2008, 10:17 AM
Shit JUN could build you a badass head.. Weve seen what they can do with an SR. And you know its good stuff. They could do everything mazworks could do, but you prolly need to speak japanese...
ROUGE180
11-11-2008, 10:44 AM
HeadGames MotorWorks Latest News (http://www.headgamesmotorworks.net/)
I've seen them in several aftermarket magazine features as being one of the best shops for head work.
ch1873857
11-11-2008, 11:40 AM
Ask Brian Wilkerson.
TheWolf
11-11-2008, 04:59 PM
nothing... you're only making 347 on a gt2876 with a stroker.. you need more boost or a tune or something. That's low unless you're running stock cams. Throw some cams in it and a nice head gasket if there already isn't. Not like your gonna rev to 9k on the stroker setup.
whereda40at
11-11-2008, 07:31 PM
yeah ok what degree cams, what kind of angle on the valve job, are ports necessary or just a good polish, removing quench area, yada ya.
Headwork doesn't always necessarily mean I got a credit card with a 6000 dollar limit and I still live at mom and dads, what should I buy guys. Please add some intelligence to your answers.
And I would probably go HKS over Tomei if I were building a super aggressive head, but if this car is street driven and not raced in a straight line I don't see the point. How do you plan on passing fucking emissions adding on to how much your car polutes?
I'm not sure what your goals are so I wouldn't know what to tell you. It all depends on what you want to do, do you want nothing but top end power, do you want it strong enough to rev the piss out of it, because you will have to do work to the intake manifold as well. (port matching and machining) larger throttle body, yada ya.
the car is for drag racing. the head is maxed out, not the turbo. i have the bottom end finished. i just need to do the head.
i have to go thru emissions first because i know im going to fail. then you have to spen $400+ on emissions worth stuff to go and fail again and then you get a 2 year waiver. my hp goal is 700. i am going with a borg warner 366 xxl in mid summer.
Ask Brian Wilkerson.
he will be the one to put the new head in. i wanted to get more opions first so that i knew of my options.
nothing... you're only making 347 on a gt2876 with a stroker.. you need more boost or a tune or something. That's low unless you're running stock cams. Throw some cams in it and a nice head gasket if there already isn't. Not like your gonna rev to 9k on the stroker setup.
it made 347 on ma's dyno. that is 400 on a dyno jet. so im trying to build the head before the new turbo set up.
and because it is in 6 months that i have to do this is why i have basicly unlimited money. and 4 of those months i will be working 70hrs a week. i like to do things right the first time around so that i dont have to do it again.
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