Question about the 2jz swap

[CrazyKoukiS14]

hey i just wanted to have a general idea of what the 2JZ swap would run me. Engine, Trans, Mounts, Driveshaft, Diff, Wiring Harness, etc. Without labor id do the swap myself

[s13 @ fullboost]

Here man read through this whole thread then when your done tell me what you think =]

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/173472-project-s14-240sx.html

[CrazyKoukiS14]

that build inspires me alot im still wondering what itll run me

[s13 @ fullboost]

you should send him a P.M. and find out haha

[Flicktitty]

ALOT! no joke. The girlfriend is doing one in her 240sx.

Last i knew it was just over 9K.
All that is left to buy THAT I KNOW OF AS OF RIGHT NOW
is the Driveshaft/Wiring/USDM 550cc Injectors.

G/L if you decide to do it. if you want a good place for info and what not check out
www.2JZSwap.com (http://www.2JZSwap.com)

If you go through Tech 2 they sell most everything you need for the swap
Mount kit 1700
Wiring 550
Motor,trans,harness 2600
Radiator 500
Intercooler 650
Etc.
check them out
www.Tech2motorsports.com (http://www.Tech2motorsports.com)
or
Search RUKUS racing, they make the mount kit cheaper.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

the reason why i think that itll cost so much is because the people that do the swap that buy the parts specificly from a site that know your doing the swap. Thats why they over charge you on parts for example: Wiring Harness $2600. WTF!! thats insane. A wiring harness, that goes for that much i bet if i look somewhere else i can find it for half the price. But yeah i tihnk im gonig to send that guy a PM about the swap and see what he paid for it cuz if its more than 10k then "F" that. Then maybe ill look into the RB swap

[lizmo]

the reason why i think that itll cost so much is because the people that do the swap that buy the parts specificly from a site that know your doing the swap. Thats why they over charge you on parts for example: Wiring Harness $2600. WTF!! thats insane. A wiring harness, that goes for that much i bet if i look somewhere else i can find it for half the price. But yeah i tihnk im gonig to send that guy a PM about the swap and see what he paid for it cuz if its more than 10k then "F" that. Then maybe ill look into the RB swap
well Tech2's Shit lines up pretty good. And if you look around there are some people that get the kit then decide to go else where with there car. If you keep your eyes open you can find a "deal" I got my motormounts,trans mount and x-member from a guy on 2JZSwap.com for 880 Shipped, Which is better then 1700 that Tech2 Charges. Then i got the motor for 2300 Shipped. As of right now i'm at about 9,000. But that includes new coilovers, all new suspension bushings, sway bars, tie rods, tension rods, traction arms, getting my wheels redone, and alot of other shit that is unneeded to do the swap.

Also, They charge $450 for a modded koyo radiator, when you could get any other KA radiator and cut the water neck and run a custom hose.
They charge $650 for a IC w/ piping, you get any other intercooler and make your own piping for cheaper.

They can charge what they want as they are one of the only places making EVERYTHING you need to get a 2J into your 240sx.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

right i completely agree with you, and from what i see its ridiculous to pay that much money for something so simple that i could do, i understand buying motormounts from them because you need to, cuz they are one of the selected few that sells them. But the motor, trans, harness etc. ill get somewhere else for a better deal. I think if i really take my time and look for the right price on everything i can do it with out spending a dollar over 7k. Do you think thats realistic or am i just smoking crack

[Flicktitty]

7K MIGHT Be enough if you shop around. but if you think you can do it for 7K i would set aside atleast 10K

I told Liz (Lizmo we could do it for about 6-7. and now she is at 9K with ATLEAST another $1000. here is her build cost so far.

Battery relocation kit - $78
Battery - $80
Fuel pump - $87
Turbo timer - $40
2jz video - $23
FMIC - $185
Hks bov - $194
Boost controller - 15
Boost cut controller - 50
Temp/oiltemp/pressure/boost gauge - $208
Radiator/fans - 200
Pulley kit - 83
Tranny Cooler - 49
Down pipe - 131
Swap kit - 904
2jzgte motor - 2463
Water pump - 111
Oil filter - 10
Spark plugs - 20
HKS Air filter/intake - 135
Heater hoses and fuel lines - 43

=======$5,110 With another about 3K into misc. suspension and other components.

I figured the car is going to be the most apart right now so why not fix and check everything, And trust me there wil be alot more broke/missing then you know (ball joints, tie rods, stabalizer bars, we are also doing the USDM Twin turbos, Cams, and injectors (when we can find them) so for 7K if you SHOP AROUND Yes, you could most likely build it. BUT don't forget we are keeping her car AUTOMATIC. so no clutch, no flywheel no need of another transmission so all that would ad up as well.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

see i think it can be done with under 7k if you dont spen your money on other odds and ends. I think if i have 7k put away it can be done if timed and researched right.

[Flicktitty]

Yeah, and it really depends what all you end up doing to it. i mean You don't NEED a Greddy BCC, You don't need a Big $$ Intake, you don't need boost controller or turbo timer etc. i think if i had to do it over again (which i might, i could do it for under 5K) cause after seeing the little that Tech2 does to a Xmemeber and using stock supra mounts i would just modify my own get stock mounts then go to a Pick N Pull and get a Lexus GS300 or SC300 motor for 100 get the trans and computer (200?) Then go with a lil NA-T build. You could do it pretty damn cheap ;)

[CrazyKoukiS14]

i heard the only difference between a N/A supra motor and the TT motor is the heads and obviosly turbos. I heard that the block and internals are identical.

[Flicktitty]

yeah there pretty much the same, i THINK the pistons are differant, i'm not real sure.

it's really pretty sad how little Tech2 does to the cross member and then sells them 1500+

[azndoc]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned yet.

But www.2jzswap.com has some good info.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

Don't know if anyone has mentioned yet.

But www.2jzswap.com (http://www.2jzswap.com) has some good info.


i dont really look at websites that focus on the swaps because they tend to overprice there parts, but thanks for the advice :)

[GSXRJJordan]

i heard the only difference between a N/A supra motor and the TT motor is the heads and obviosly turbos. I heard that the block and internals are identical.

Hahahahaha.

Factory turbo bottom ends are very different. They have extra oil galleries/squirters for the bottom of the pistons. This keeps piston temps down. Also, lower compression pistons so you can boost without cylinder pressures going through the roof.

The real question you need to be asking (and has been asked in other 2JZ swap threads) is where is the motor coming from (imported 2JZGTE's are cheaper, but not legal), and what years (green top = vvti = hard to tune around). If you're planning on just leaving it stock, you need to re-evaluate why you're spending so much money.

PLEASE do some more research before trying to cut corners on your budget. As posted, if you think you can do it for $7k, start buying shit, but don't be surprised when your car is in pieces and you're still saving money months from now.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

whos going to know if my engine is legal or not, its not like a cop is going to pop my hood and say let me see if that the illegal 2JZ from japan, point is im still going for the TT motor and not the N/A one. I just wanted to know if the cylinder head was the only difference between the NA and the TT

[GSXRJJordan]

whos going to know if my engine is legal or not, its not like a cop is going to pop my hood and say let me see if that the illegal 2JZ from japan, point is im still going for the TT motor and not the N/A one. I just wanted to know if the cylinder head was the only difference between the NA and the TT

The heads are actually one of the most similar components. The bottom ends are radically different. And yes, if a cop popped your hood and saw an engine swap, he could look for a VIN to check to see if the motor is stolen - not seeing a VIN (because it's not a US-spec motor) means that he can impound your car for 30days right off the bat. Laws may be different in IL, but cops are not - if you give them an opportunity to fuck you, like putting an imported motor in your car, it's a 50/50 shot at best that you get away unscathed.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

yeah but in illinois we have no emissions for cars 95 and older so they dont car wtf you got under your engine bay as long as its 95 or older, you can literally have black smoke coming out of your exhaust and you wont get pulled over

[s13 @ fullboost]

hey dude I wouldn't post shit like this on the internet

and with the vin number situation, cant you cut a vin number off some other engine and weld it onto the one you have


but GL with finding more info on the swap hope you do it =]

[CrazyKoukiS14]

what are you talking about i never said that ;)

[s13 @ fullboost]

haha of course not I never heard it =]

[GSXRJJordan]

That's cool you don't have cops poppin hoods, but I just want to make sure they have as little ammunition to persecute me as possible, ya know?

Good luck with the swap, keep the thread alive with questions, and we'll be back to answer them.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

well this isnt something im starting to do this week, i just got a job that ive wanted and i might land a second one so ill be me making bank :D this is something im planning for the next year or so, but yeah im slowly starting to gather info about the swap :) but yeah like i said if i land this job i can probably afford this swap withing half a year, i hope it works out :D

[s13 @ fullboost]

yeah man good luck I would love to see a 2jz in your engine bay =]

[CrazyKoukiS14]

thanks man i would love that too\ :D

[soon2bs13]

I saw a post of about $5,110 for the swap. A buddy of mine spent roughly $10,000, and that was a 1JZ. That does include SOME goodies, but there was ALOT of custom stuff that needed to be done.

[CrazyKoukiS14]

it depends what your doing when your doing the swap, some people take advantage of there car not running for a month or so so they by more parts and consider that part of the swap, what i consider a swap is engine trans driveshaft diff ecu and everything else to get the engine to run. No suspension or turbo upgrade nothing liek that

[kmn5]

with so many people doing the 2jz swap these days the price of the 2jz and R154 trans are moving up n up

[GSXRJJordan]

with so many people doing the 2jz swap these days the price of the 2jz and R154 trans are moving up n up

That little tid-bit is certainly worth bumping a 6-month-old thread. :down:

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