PRODUCT REVIEW: Parts Shop MAX fender roller.

[AWDalbert]

*I have no association with either company.*

this write up isn't to put down any product its just a comparison.

This is a review for the v2 Parts Shop Max fender roller.

For this review I compared the Parts Max roller and the Eastwood roller.

Let me start off by saying that my experience with Parts shop MAX was great, there customer service is awesome, there shipping was very fast, and the product was pretty good itself.:bigok:

the good.

First off some comparison of the Max roller and the Eastwood roller.

Both have a similar shape because they are used for the same thing which is rolling and pulling fenders.

the MAX roller is great for the lowered cars with coilover setups that have very little travel. It gives you up to 3.5 more inches to play with than the Eastwood roller does. over my experiences lowering and lifting the coilovers takes up most of the time when fender rolling the Max roller eliminates this problem with its compact shape.:snoop:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison019.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison021.jpg

the Max roller uses bolts for adjusting other than the twist tight Eastwood roller. this gives you a more secure angle that will not move under pressure that you may get when doing agressive rolls or pulls. you have to loosen and tighten each time you adjust the head. makes for a more predictable roll.

the Max roller also has a notch cut out of the shaft that will give you more of an angle for a flatter lip.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison015.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison016.jpg

preping the roller

there where a few things you want to do before using the roller.

-The roller does not come pre lubricated:keke: you want to add grease to the adjustment componenets, mainly the threading, this is very easy to fix.

-the outer surfaces of the wheel is bare metal and when adjusting and angling the roller, the metal on the roller head will touch the inner surface to where it is mounted. this will stop the roller from moving

I fixed this by adding 2 washer to each end of the wheel. now the roller will spin freely.:bigok:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison004-1.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison013-1.jpg

The bad

The only issue I had with the roller was the polyurethane wheel,
the material on the wheel is very soft, too soft, when placing it on the lip it gave too much even with a very slight angle the roller did not want to bend the lip
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison007.jpg

the material on the MAX roller is very thin in comparison tho the Eastwood roller

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison017.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison018.jpg

I re adjusted and tried it a few time until the material (polyurethane) gave and ripped:-/

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison005.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison012.jpg

MY fix = ultra Hybrid roller
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison003.jpg
tested on Matheta's car



thank you for reading.

[ZX88]

so were you able to roll the fenders with the pbm fender roller or did it just flex and tear.

[AWDalbert]

so were you able to roll the fenders with the pbm fender roller or did it just flex and tear.

it flexed and tore so i removed it and swapped it with the Eastwood roller head, and worked like a charm.

[^fraktal^]

try just swapping the wheels inbetween the two instead of the entire arm?
try securing the eastwood wheel with a bolt instead of the chuck key/bolt?
try swapping the top half w/wheel from the eastwood to the pbm using the pbm bolt?

[AWDalbert]

try just swapping the wheels inbetween the two instead of the entire arm?
try securing the eastwood wheel with a bolt instead of the chuck key/bolt?
try swapping the top half w/wheel from the eastwood to the pbm using the pbm bolt?

switching the head is alot easier than all that jazz, its one bolt. and the internals are different between both of roller wheels, bearing size, center shaft

[FaLKoN240]

Who is the girl? :P

You should let PBM know about the problem with the wheel so they can do something about it.

[AWDalbert]

Who is the girl? :P

You should let PBM know about the problem with the wheel so they can do something about it.

I pm'd them today I'm sure they will fix it and it will be superb, all new products have some bugs but you cant beat that compact design, cars that would take a few hour now only take around 2hrs !!!!

[Andrew Bohan]

i see what you did there

http://www.bohanindustries.com/pedo3.jpg

[MrFairlady]

Nice...I'm buying 1 or the other and my Friend has a Modified Eastwood roller.

had it cut and welded back SHORTER like the PBM roller.So he's got the Perfect combo.

whats the Price diff?? PBM is way cheaper yes??
wonder if a Skateboard wheel w/ a bearing would even work for a wheel replacement??

[DOOK]

I also have a parts shop max roller although I've yet to use it, I am wondering what could be done to remedy the material situation? Did you heat the fender sufficiently?

[AWDalbert]

I also have a parts shop max roller although I've yet to use it, I am wondering what could be done to remedy the material situation? Did you heat the fender sufficiently?

yes I do heat the fender enough, don't want to toot my own horn but I'm pretty good at rolling fenders.

something to consider is the supras fender that I rolled was a but stiffer do to its shortness than most fenders i roll (240sx, hondas, 3350z's) but I haven't tested it on any other car.

[AWDalbert]

i see what you did there



t3h pedo, yes i noticed

[Row]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderrollingcomparison007.jpg


I bet you struggle alot to roll fenders with that roller.

Wow wow, who's that in the background :naughty:

[adrians_s13]

lol @ hybrid roller..

great review man. very detailed. That's cool how the PBM roller is shorter. I think when I was rolling my rears with the eastwood, I had to remove the top hats of my rear coilover to get more clearance... =X

[AWDalbert]

and since everyone asks, The girl is a friends of mines girlfriend, she was watching the rolling being done.

[soreballz]

Why is everybody trippin about the girl? She ain't even that fine...


Good product review.

[jrocslider]

Why is everybody trippin about the girl? She ain't even that fine...


Good product review.


truth!

i was thinkin the same thing.

good product review though. i've been looking into both.

[Tenchuu]

good to know. i was thinking about a PBM one soon, but may hold off till this be fixed.

[AWDalbert]

good to know. i was thinking about a PBM one soon, but may hold off till this be fixed.

the supra lip that i rolled was a bit stiff and short compared to 240's and honda lips. I have yet to try the Max roller on another car, when i do ill let you all know how it goes

[!Zar!]

Why is everybody trippin about the girl? She ain't even that fine...


Good product review.

Don't insult him... I'm sure he's a fine young lady...

er... yeah...


I unno, the PBM roller never tickled my fancy.

I've used the eastwood roller on many a car with no real complaints. Though I did get rid of that quick adjustment bolt and installed a standard bolt instead.

[AWDalbert]

Don't insult him... I'm sure he's a fine young lady...

er... yeah...


I unno, the PBM roller never tickled my fancy.

I've used the eastwood roller on many a car with no real complaints. Though I did get rid of that quick adjustment bolt and installed a standard bolt instead.

+1

ive been thinking of doing the same thing

[qwikspool]

good review.

[s13dan]

Great write up, i actually was wondering what the difference may be. Ill be rolling my fenders soon, and will consider what you said..

[ZX88]

i just look on pbm site and on there site the roller has a orange wheel now. maybe this issue has already been fixed.

[AWDalbert]

idk maybe we'll find out tho

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Very good write up, looks like I forgot to put those washer on your roller... they all should have been shipped out with the washers to work smoothly.

the wheels on the other hand look like an issue... I'm on it.
stay tuned.

[!Zar!]

I forgot, but if you use the roller, you should angle it so the rollen bends the lip up instead of pushing straight into the lip.

That might be why you punctured the roller.

[AWDalbert]

I forgot, but if you use the roller, you should angle it so the rollen bends the lip up instead of pushing straight into the lip.

That might be why you punctured the roller.

I start every roll at an almost flat angle, you get the lip to bend upward first than once that at a 45% angle i re adjust the roller to a more vertical position

[pinkarrowsnow]

PBM is awesome haha I have a eastwood roller and my poweredbymax coils were too low to get the eastwood to fit so had to raise the coils and whatnot it was a bitch haha maybe ill trim the eastwood down.

[WERDdabuilder]

more reviews on that broad and her parts.

good review.

[!Zar!]

I start every roll at an almost flat angle, you get the lip to bend upward first than once that at a 45% angle i re adjust the roller to a more vertical position

And that shit still tore?

Ghetto.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

So the word is that the softer wheel was selected for the release of the 2nd gen roller because they felt it would be a little more paint friendly on silvias.

I have not rolled the gen III supra but I have rolled alot of gen IV supra's and soarers due to good reviews on the supra forum. I have to say they are by far harder to roll than the nissans - so this is a good way to find the softer materials limit - unless of course it was just a manufacturers defect in the wheel. Curious though, looks to be a silver edge on the blured digital pic of the lip - was it cut before the roll?

Anyhow we'll send you another soft wheel + a hard wheel (for free) and look forward to a future comparison of the two urethanes versus eastwoods.

I'm sure the harder one will work great on the toyota because we have never had anyone request a replacement wheel before now. We must have over a hundred fender rolls on our Parts Shop MAX roller which gets used frequently in our shop in addition to getting whored out on rentals all the time. We have never replaced the wheel on our shop/rental unit.

[AWDalbert]

I agree that the older supra was Alot harder to roll (bend), than the Nissan lips, the cut happened while the roll was being performed I have fellow members punk138 and Matheta witnessed the lip give in and crack, I am looking forward to the harder material roller, I'm sure it will be good to go:bigok:

thanks

[DC Dan MAX USA]

the cut happened while the roll was being performed

I dont understand when you say "the cut happened". Did you cut the inner edge with a pneumatic body saw, or cut off wheel, etc?

[AWDalbert]

my bad, bad choice in words, the polyurethane material on the wheel split, when pressure was applied to the edge of the supras fender, while the rolling of the lip was being performed.

[AWDalbert]

September 15, 2008

Alright here's a little update, Parts Shop MAX stood by their product and sent me 2 replacement wheels :boink:

a soft white one (same) .

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels008.jpg

and a harder blue wheel
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels013.jpg

but what really impressed me with the roller is the ability to replace the wheels and bearings.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels012-1.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels007.jpg


metal shims
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels001.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels002.jpg

slides right into both polyurethane wheels.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels006.jpg

reassembled and ready to roll:w00t:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/newrollerwheels014.jpg

Big thanks to parts shop max.

[Ben G]

what is the price difference i dont think i saw that anywhere

[AWDalbert]

???, id pm Parts Shop MAX for that info

will let you know how they it works out after i test it on another car, hopefully a 240 of some sort

[Z_Spool]

well if you're looking for a car to test on for free... :naughty:

(Actually my buddy has a Zenki that needs to get rolled... Lemme know)

[KiDyNomiTe]

Another one in the running.

http://stance-usa.com/sus/images/stories/frontpage/fenderroller-fly.jpg

[IIIXziuR]

Very nice review.
It is nice to see something informative in regards to the products.
That Stance roller looks nice but I hope they lower that MSRP.

[AWDalbert]

^
I think I'll start collecting them now. lol

but that stance roller looks nice but nothing beats the compact design of the parts by max roller IMO.

once its completely lubed it feels really nice

[240trainee]

Is the stance one gonna be compact like the PSM? Or like the Eastwood.

Thats the only complaint about my eastwood, is the length.

[BlackMagicGTO]

I don't know if the joint I got my roller from in J-Land gets theirs from the same factory as MAX but it looks exactly the same. I've done a lot of rolling with it and it works great.

[AWDalbert]

9/20/08

I tried the wheel today on a lip that is harder than 240's but softer than the supras. The wheel held up fairly well DID NOT SPLIT, the wheel collected dirt easily but thats not a problem. I was able to tell that the soft wheel is better for paint lip was left flat and perfect.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/fender%20roller/92008004.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/fender%20roller/92008001.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/fender%20roller/92008002.jpg

end thaught, now that i tried the full parts max roller i would recomend it over the eastwood roller

for a few reasons:

1- Parts Shop Max stands by their product
2- Compact design for lowered rides ( coilovers)
3- Price is great compared to the competetors
4- wheel is great on paint




1999 Subaru Legacy Wagon

[420sx]

all you need to roll is a mallet. all you need to pull is a breaker bar. put it on the wheel and roll the car forward or back

don't get me wrong plenty people think its a necessity; i owned an eastwood model, i sold it because its useless; all fenders coming in the shop pulled with my method and it looked better.

[DC Dan MAX USA]

Parts Shop MAX stood by their product and sent me 2 replacement wheels :boink:
but what really impressed me with the roller is the ability to replace the wheels and bearings.
Big thanks to parts shop max.
No problem! You were the first guy we've ever sent a replacement wheel to but if anyone else has some remaining anxiety about the wheel longevety they should know the replacement cost is only about $10/wheel
what is the price difference i dont think i saw that anywhere
???, id pm Parts Shop MAX for that info

It's $220 for the Gen 2 roller. Now ships with the Blue (stiffer) wheel which is our new standard, the softer durometer is optional.
9/20/08
I tried the wheel today on a lip that is harder than 240's but softer than the supras. The wheel held up fairly well DID NOT SPLIT, the wheel collected dirt easily but thats not a problem. I was able to tell that the soft wheel is better for paint lip was left flat and perfect. now that i tried the full parts max roller i would recomend it over the eastwood roller

for a few reasons:

1- Parts Shop Max stands by their product
2- Compact design for lowered rides ( coilovers)
3- Price is great compared to the competetors
4- wheel is great on paint

1999 Subaru Legacy Wagon
You really did a great job on that roll! Thanks for the updated reviews.
all you need to roll is a mallet. all you need to pull is a breaker bar. put it on the wheel and roll the car forward or back don't get me wrong plenty people think its a necessity; i owned an eastwood model, i sold it because its useless; all fenders coming in the shop pulled with my method and it looked better.
You must have super human technique most people dont posess! I certainly couldn't do the same job with those tools, but I have no problem breaking out the BFH if its a more extreme job finished with body work and paint.

[AWDalbert]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/compared%20rollers/fenderworks005-1.jpg

[norcal_black240]

Good review. Once the PBM guys fix the lil issues with the roller I might be buying one.

[!Zar!]

It seems like they fixed all the issues most people were having.

[AWDalbert]

bringing this thread back from the dead

just wanted to cover a quick issue wih the PBM roller

im sure most of you guys that have had this roller or are still using this roller have ran into this problem.

now the PBM roller is an inverted desighn which is very cool and useful

but since it is a 2 piece desighn it has alot of flex especially when pulls or aggressive rolls.

here was my fix.

ok now what i did before to eliminate the flex was put a lug nut on the stud but not tighten it down.

so when the roller startd to flex it would meet the lug nut and eliminate the flex.

so I got tired of doing this for every roll.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/Beto1987/IMG_1205-1.jpg

the fix :)

play by play.

cons.
eliminated the capabilitie to be an upright longer roller

pro.
no more flex.
more precise roll/pull
quicker setup times



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bam:fawk:

[Tonys18t]

Good fix dude,

I have been OK with the flex on the PBM roller so far,
but i do have an issue with the lower lug hole slot ( 6'0 clock position ) i'm not a fan of the design at all.

due to the fact that the design means that that hole is through the hub plate and the roller arm, its double thickness.
this makes getting the bottom lug nut tightened a problem on some cars.

I think my PBM roller will be getting some cutting action too very soon, lol.

[GeneStarWindGSW]

wonder if PBM wil fix the flex issue. seems like they'd have to re-do the roller itself instead of something they can just replace. nonetheless great product.

[kalypso123]

great fix @[email protected]

[DC Dan MAX USA]

I can see why you would want to do this if fender rolling is your job all day long, in fact having 2 fender rollers is probably choice.

But for most users including shops that roll fenders as just one facet of their many services, tightening all the bolts each time is no big deal especially with a small pneumatic wrench.

In regards to the double plates under the nut at 6 o'clock we use a MAX 15mm bolt on wheel spacer (it has very long studs) in conjunction with our roller whenever there is issues with thread length. Also we use the wheel spacer whenever there is a big brake caliper.

By the way, this is what the roller looks like now.... ( cut and paste from the latest update on www.poweredbymax.net )

The parts shop MAX 2011 fender roller is the same great fender roller, now with more bling. Enjoy!

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1311824855_2_FT0_dsc02756.jpg
The wheel angle on this thing is super gangster so that you can really flatten those lips better than other rollers.
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1311824855_2_FT0_dsc02758.jpg
This is a big reason why everyone buys our fender roller, this (convertible) base plate rolls super low cars without detaching the coilovers.
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1311824855_2_FT0_dsc02759.jpg
We have sold this CNC aluminum backed firm urethane wheel with the roller ever since the roller was in its 2nd generation. It never fails, but if you somehow manage to kill it by letting your pit-bull gnaw it down its only $15 to replace the urethane.
http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/e107_files/public/1311824855_2_FT0_dsc02760.jpg