Zilvia Meet-Interest/Attendance Poll

[Mark & Irena]

With TNord's help, we found an ideal place. http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/ We were thinking of August 15-17, the place is located in Pacific Junction, IA. There's a great road course, a 1/4 mile track, a kart track, and a jet ski lake. It's almost in the center of the US (Location was a big deal for us, considering how many of you guys live in all different parts of the country). We wanted to make this a big meet, and the more of you guys tell us you're interested, the better it will get. Eight months is sufficient for planning. Please let us know if you are interested. We'd like to have a raffle, do bbq, race, and have fun. Post any other ideas you guys might have, we'd like to know what you think.

So, please, choose your option in the poll, and we'll keep you guys updated.

Thanks so much!

[tnord]

i think we know what my response is. :D

50 road courses??? i doubt it :p

[West]

Poll Results for Interested people:

Mark & Irena
tnord
DSC
blaqsilvia
DSC240sx
guidot
JDM180SX
negular
nrcooled
silnv
xhdriver

* List will be updated as votes are counted...

[DSC]

I'd drive damn near anywhere to meet up with cool ppl and run the s14 :) Longest trip for a meet so far was 16hrs, may as well go for 20 :p

[Grant]

another 240sx convention? :rolleyes:

[DSC]

Originally posted by Grant
another 240sx convention? :rolleyes:

Your just mad cauz you can't come :o

[Grant]

Originally posted by DSC
Your just mad cauz you can't come :o

no, not really. :rolleyes:

I just dont care to drive that far for a 240sx meet. Theres already a bunch of 240sx meets in Socal :D..

sorry guys..

isnt there going to be a convention this summer on the east coast?

[crioten]

hell i live in st louis, you bet your a** ill be there.

we should also have skill training and crap like that for moron newbie wanna be autox drivers like me...

[nrcooled]

But I will make it happen only if it's worth it. ::50 road courses seem to be worth it:: My only issue is getting the SR out there. She would be great going out but coming back after flogging her on the track for a few hours is a different beast altogether. Maybe I will trailer it w/ my mom's explorer.

That should come to think of it. I'll be there.;) (Where's the damn thumbsup smiley when you need it

[HippoSleek]

Sounds like a great idea and I really hope it comes together, but it is a bit far for me.

I don't see 50 road courses? I do see one pretty handsome one though - just bring extra brakes, I see several serious braking zones w/o much cooling space.

Jet Ski lake would a lot of fun.

**edit* - Barcari's "location" rocks*

[silnv]

I am interested but I dont know if I wanna drive that far. Be nice to meet everyone though.

[negular]

Total Estimated Time: 17 hours, 43 minutes
Total Distance: 1032.75 miles

not too bad... Count me in. :cool:

[guidot]

I would be very interested! Me and the woman can make it down there and we can have all kinds of car fun! Update as necessary! I will be there!

[Mark & Irena]

You guys kick @$$!!!


-S13Grl

[blaqsilvia]

oooh bbq's and racing--- 50? wow!! :D gotta go to this one :)

[sph33r]

I think the 50 came from their about page where they make the statement

The United States is home to fifty road courses that handle professional NASCAR events as well as clubs; however there are only twenty that cater only to the car clubs, bike clubs, and focus on the recreational aspect. This aspect of non-professional racing is the fastest growing sport in the nation. It is with this in mind that MAM's designers have created Mid-America Motorplex.

But the track looks nice anyway.. I'll probably be interested in showing up.

[Mark & Irena]

Yup! You guys were right, of course :). I think i got too track-happy to read carefully. But that's okay, I have blonde highlights.

-Irena

Sorry, all!

Edit: Well, now that I eased off the fact that someone made the world's perfect Auto Racing Complex, I read that the jet ski racing won't be open 'till 2004. Not sure that any of you wanted to go do jet ski racing anyway, but yeah... :(

[Bbandit]

Originally posted by negular
Total Estimated Time: 17 hours, 43 minutes
Total Distance: 1032.75 miles

not too bad... Count me in. :cool:

im with negular.. except that i will be a couple of hours shorter ;)
:rolleyes:

[DarkRaptor42]

I need to go to a meet but I can drive that far. My car likes to die on me as it is, cant drive her 1000+ miles, race than come back home. Sorry fellas have fun though.

[silnv]

If I were to go am I allowed to bring friends who dont drive Nissan. The reason I ask is I dont wanna drive the whole way by myself that would not be much fun.

[KiDyNomiTe]

its nice to know you guys are settign something up like this, I will definately have my car by then, no major mods, just a few suspension mods, and autocross experience. But you know I'll be there of course pretty close for me.

And to whoever asked about the 240sx meet on the east coast, the convention is going to be in atlanta this year, but that will be in april i think.


O ya and happy new year to you all, never got the chance to say that.

[tnord]

i think non-nissans should be allowed....especially considering i probably won't have my 240 anymore, and the guy i would bring would either have a Datsun1600 roadster or a Spec Miata.

[sykikchimp]

yeah, definately non-nissan guys should be able to come.. It's a ZILVIA meet, not a 240sx meet. anyways, what kind of money would we be talkin'?

[uiuc240]

cool!

I think I can make that happen...then I might just drive back with Mark/Irena so I can go to a wedding in Ft. Collins the following weekend. Hope my new job (that I don't even have yet) won't mind. I guess I'll just tell them during the interview!

:D I'll have my T28 on by then :cool:

Eric

[s14vaxlr8]

sounds good to me, im sure we could convoy about 5-7 sr and kat alone from dc metro area

[kandyflip445]

I'm interested in going...if I have a 240 by then. I should though so count me in. Is lodging up to us? Like is there a certain place you have in mind there were everybody can check-in or is it more of a "find your own damn room" thing?:D

[Tyler Durdan]

Count me in. Eight months to save and finally put it to Tnord (J/K)...gotta love it.

[Mark & Irena]

We'll set up lodging as soon as we get enough of you all to definitely be interested.

[Kareem]

I'm there as long as I can actually find a 240 that I want for sale. I'll get my friends to come out and make a roadtrip out of it.

[tnord]

we should have people put down deposits to make sure they attend, and even if they don't, we won't get effed in the butt so bad

[negular]

Originally posted by tnord
we should have people put down deposits to make sure they attend, and even if they don't, we won't get effed in the butt so bad

sounds like a good idea.

[blaqsilvia]

Originally posted by tnord
we should have people put down deposits to make sure they attend, and even if they don't, we won't get effed in the butt so bad

good idea-- offer up an itineray and prices for them and tell people who are serious in going to put down like a 25% refundable deposit or a 10% non-refundable -- something reasonable to make sure everyone goes and everything goes smoothly ;) -- offer different itinerary's tho- so people who can't afford everything can still show up ;) :)

[sykikchimp]

Are we gonna be the only group there? Any idea how much track time they will allow? what group will be running the event? I sure don't wanna be on a track with out an organizing body that has done this a few times. Otherwise it'd be a cluster****

[fastpace]

i'm down with it

[Jeff240sx]

1428.88 miles
Total Estimated Time: 23 hours, 12 minutes

Uhh. Not happening. Sorry.
-Jeff

[Silviaholic]

Twenty hours, 1200 miles....what are you guys trying to do to me?

I dont even know...like damn. That is a FRIKING hike. Maybe I can car pool with someone, Ill drive five and they sleep, They'll drive five and I'll sleep...

**** whom I kiddin I wont even drive to NY....

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by Jeff240sx
1428.88 miles
Total Estimated Time: 23 hours, 12 minutes

Uhh. Not happening. Sorry.
-Jeff

damn florida is that long of a drive, looks like im gonna have to fly if i ever go out there.

[BLiTz]

Where are u in FL? And Jeff you in Tampa? Im in Destin! Didn't know there was any other real moded 240's near me...

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by BLiTz
Where are u in FL? And Jeff you in Tampa? Im in Destin! Didn't know there was any other real moded 240's near me...

o whoops i forgot to add that i meant when I go to florida, I will be going either this year or next year, I live in chicago, that place is about 7 hours away from me

It's just the 240 convention drive (if I go) that will be a bitch, someone said 11 hours to ATL, but if it takes 23 hours to go to indy from fl, i don't see how chicago to atl is only 11 hours.


EDIT: Nevermind half of what I said before, I looked at the location to quick and though Indiana.

[KiDyNomiTe]

well the dates for the other 240 convention are not april, but august 1-3, so if anything I probably would just go to this one only due to shorter distances, or just make a really big road trip out of it and end up in florida and come back after the convention. Haven't been on a road trip yet without my parents.

[ca18guy]

Sorry, If I need to travel that far I'm not spending it in Iowa :) Besides I'll be out of most my vacation time this summer.

[tnord]

to keep costs down.............most tracks will let you camp at the track, i dunno bout these guys though. that's what i would plan on doing. that or else i'd just get up early, drive the 3-4hrs, and then go home that night.

[SaintlyCharBoy]

1500.22 mi
24 hours 21 minutes

ouch

i want to go but... :eek:

-sean

[DSC]

Hotel rooms are cheap when split 4 ways. I wouldn't want to camp in august...

[tnord]

well........it seems as though we have somewhat significant interest in the event. next step is to contact the track. personally, i think we should do a joint day with one of the mustang clubs or anybody else that already has a date set.

1) this would make it cheaper for us
2) the other club would already have a pre-arranged agenda for the day
3) safety and rescue would already be arranged
4) the track would already be staffed with corner workers
5) instructors may be present

i don't know if on the calendar where it says "open track day" that it means it is not yet reserved for anybody.........or that the track is keeping that day open for just anybody to show up. we might want to figure that out.

[CoasTek240]

well i'm up for it

[BadMoJo]

I would love to attend a meet like that but yeah....

Total Distance: 1728.33 miles

Total Estimated Time: 29 hours, 46 minutes

:eek:

Thats a weeee bit far for me.

[DSC]

Yeah, I'd like to add that I won't get on track with anybody that doesn't have 1+ yr experiance and/or an instructor. That said, I need one badly :p

We'll need 20+ instructors tho...that'll be hard to pull off. I would think our only option would be what tnord said and just make sure we get with a group with plenty of instructors.

I was just looking at the pics of the track......I think the banks at lowes are higher than the biggest hill at this track, lol. Gota love the midwest.

[tnord]

there's no way we'd have an instructor for each NEWB.........but having a couple there is always beneficial.

[DuffMan]

Total Distance: 450.21 miles
Total Estimated Time: 23 minutes









...by concorde supersonic jet

[bbp]

hey guys,

having some experieince putting together track days, you may want to consider piggybacking on someone elses event. It can get very exspensive to do a weekend, weekdays tend to be less expensive. Figure in costs of track rental, corner workers, insurance it can get real $$ real quick. You might consider calling the track and seeing what their schedule is over the summer. Look for weekends that are being rented by open marque clubs, NASA, Tracktime, Carguys, Driving Impressions etc... (I don't know if all of those even go to this track) and see if we can put together a group discount type thing, or if we have enough people buy a run group for our 240 brethren. This way you will not have to deal with finding instructors, insurance is already paid etc. Most schools/clubs I would think be interested if they are not filled up, and alot of events go unfilled these days.

what do you think?




ps: DSC, thanks for linking to the MidOhio event!

[whateverjames]

381.71 miles :D I dunno if I would take my car, but, I would go and watch you guys fly around the track.

[negular]

Originally posted by DSC
Hotel rooms are cheap when split 4 ways. I wouldn't want to camp in august...

maybe if we all stay at the same hotel, they'd give us some discount?

[Mark & Irena]

Well I'm sure you guys have all heard that this year's convention will be held August 1-3. I guess that was just confirmed not too long ago. We don't know what would be a good date not to inconvenience anyone. Either late June or later in the year... Anyone with anything in mind?

[Bbandit]

late may or late august is the best time for me

after what i've been through last december (trip to colorado + wyoming... and got stuck in the snow in the middle of nowhere)
im not going north again next winter... i just want to stay warm down here in texas :D
besides mark & irena will probably try to steal my car again:(

[ghosts14]

count me in. Sweet, my first meet, bad ass.

[christopher]

I am there for sure, keep the updates coming.

Suggestion, sponsors make things cheap in exchange for advertizing. I feel like a commercial today but, Afterdark-tuning is in IA. Also Project-D aka Autoimaging.com is in MN (where I am from.) If you contact them and bring in some other groups on this, they may be willing to fork out a little help. Both of those places specialize in 240sx tuning and thus would be appropriate.

I could maybe help in this, honestly I don't know anyone at either of those places personally. I could make the calls if someone wants to get at me. ;)

[boosteds14]

ya im down, by then i will have my 250 turbo diesal and should be able to tow the car there. but that is only if CIPmotorsports doesnt have a booth at this years Magnetic Mini Car show.

[KiDyNomiTe]

You should also ask the people who made the convention in Cali, they can give some tips, I know that the RX7 people are making a meet in indiana sometime in april I think, but I think it will be an rx7 exclusive thing.

As for dates I am free for most of the summer except August is a big question mark.

My cousins will be coming in August, just not sure when, they are last minute type of people.

I know a lot of you are in college, so when do most colleges end, try and work around school.

[mav1178]

Originally posted by Mark & Irena
With TNord's help, we found an ideal place. http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/ We were thinking of August 15-17, the place is located in Pacific Junction, IA. There's a great road course, a 1/4 mile track, a kart track, and a jet ski lake. It's almost in the center of the US (Location was a big deal for us, considering how many of you guys live in all different parts of the country). We wanted to make this a big meet, and the more of you guys tell us you're interested, the better it will get. Eight months is sufficient for planning. Please let us know if you are interested. We'd like to have a raffle, do bbq, race, and have fun. Post any other ideas you guys might have, we'd like to know what you think.

Mark/Irena,

I know you guys planned the date already, but because it is sooo incredibly close to the convention in Atlanta I would strongly suggest you reconsider the date (mid-August for track events is HORRIBLE on tires and cooling).

Just so you guys have a heads up; when planning a big event like this it is a BAD idea to get "ideas" from others. The more you "talk" about it, the less gets done. You really need to set a concrete date/location/cost schedule up, and have a cutoff date for people to register/pay by.

If MidAmerica is like any other track, they would require a 1/2 deposit by roughly 6 months before the event, and full payment prior to the event itself. Factoring in EMT/tow/cornerworkers/etc and you need at least 40-50 people paying full price to even break even. It's one big headache trying to fill up the event by yourselves; I piggybacked 2002's convention with SpeedTrial (bought 75 spaces out of 100 available) and that was a huge PITA with all the cancellations and no-shows and such. I heard almost every excuse in the book trying to get themselves out of the track event (and getting me to refund their money). Not fun at all.

My suggestion: talk to Atlanta guys, coordinate dates and/or possible sponsors (help each other out), have a 3-5 person committee decide date and all relevant details OFF the forums, and then post everything up.

-alex

[West]

Alex,

I think your right, we just sat down and talked about the fact that the Convention is around the same time. Im thinking we just get involved with the National Meet and possibly help sponsor it.

Do you know who I would contact? Thanks!

[DSC]

news that cuts 12hrs off my trip :D

If only they could have the offical one in the middle, tho I guess alternating coasts is cool too.

[wazneeni]

I talked to Irena last night on the phone and she said she'd beat me up if I didn't come back to Zilvia to discuss this possible meet at MAM.

I read the original message in this thread, then skimmed over the rest. So, if I say something that's already been said, I apologize. Anyway...

I live in Omaha and am a member at MAM. Technically, yes...the track is in Pacific Junction, but just consider it being in the Omaha area. I've driven hundreds of miles on this track. It's the safest road course you'll ever have the joy of driving. I've seen cars fly off at over 100MPH and not hit a thing. Drawback to that is the track isn't as "tough" as others, especially with no elevation changes. However, that is by design, and none of us members have ever complained.

You also need to know that the kart track and lake won't be completed for quite a while, so don't plan on using them. The drag strip will hopefully be done later this year, but I'm not sure of an exact completion date.

I'm not sure what else to say. Aaron (the GM) is a good guy and usually does everything he can to accomidate people. However, I would NOT expect a drift session to be allowed. Only reason I bring it up is because it usually comes up eventually ("Goddamn streetracers!!").

If you have any questions, I may be able to answer them.

Go to my website (see signature). You can see pics of my car on the track.

[ghosts14]

I'm in omaha also, I can get a list of hotels and things if you all need places to stay.

Let me know

[sykikchimp]

Originally posted by WeST
Alex,

I think your right, we just sat down and talked about the fact that the Convention is around the same time. Im thinking we just get involved with the National Meet and possibly help sponsor it.

Do you know who I would contact? Thanks!

I'm thinkin this is a Good idea.

[christopher]

Where is it supposed to be now?? I will probably still make it. Just as long as it ain't in Mexico or something.

[ghosts14]

I still think that we need to have some kind of meet here in the midwest, as all the other meets are usually on the east or west coast and I will not drive 2 days to get to. Just my 2 cents.

[wazneeni]

Originally posted by christopher
Where is it supposed to be now?? I will probably still make it. Just as long as it ain't in Mexico or something.
Where is WHAT supposed to be now? And apposed to where "it" was when? If you're talking about the meet being discussed in this thread, the planned location has not changed. MAM. Also, Omaha (Pacific Junction) is not in Mexico, so I think you're okay there.

[oberkill]

I dont know if you have contacted MAM yet but I tried to do this last year and basically they had all the dates full by Febuary. So if you want to do it I would call first and find out what dates are available then decide from that. Also a date away from the National meet would probably be a good idea! LOL

On another note if you guys do get this together www.project240.com will help sponser. Mark drop me a e-mail at [email protected] when you get an idea of what is going on and let me know what you need!!

If this is done away from the Atlanta meet I will come but cant do 2 trips too close together as the "day job" would get a little pissed.... LOL

Alan

[wazneeni]

You've got a valid point when it comes to money. And that camping thing actually sounds kinda fun...aside from the lack of running water. However, how many 1000's of dollars have we all put into our cars? I'm up to about $5000. And we do it for the sole purpose of beating the hell out of our cars whenever we can, even if it involves driving 1000's of miles across the country. Well, at least some of us do. Anyway, this is why I love living next to MAM. And yes, my 240 is my only mode of transportation.

Also, like I said before...don't think of MAM as being in Iowa. Think Omaha...a metro of 1 million + people. There are not cows outside my window.

And Alan, I think Irena DID call them. I think she said there were only 2 weekends left, one of them being just 2 weekends after the convention. We both agreed with what you just said...that a track meet that soon after Atlanta is NOT the best idea in the world. If I didn't live next door to MAM, I wouldn't go on those dates.

[oberkill]

Yeah they fill up fast. Was the other weekend feasable? If not we could try to have the meet elsewhere. I would be willing to help if it was in the St. Louis area. Basically if there is a meet in the Midwest I will help as best I can! LOL Mark you have my e-mail up above so if you need something or some help just drop me a e-mail.

Alan

[wazneeni]

I don't remember what the other date she told me was. I wanna say sometime in September, but I'm not sure at all. Irena?

[tnord]

if we did this jointly with another club, i can't see the actual track time costing more than $150/day.

James - But I don't think I'd want to drive across a state to get only a couple hours of laps- if that, and risk being stranded- totalling my car. Maybe I'll just trailer the B_itch then no worries

it's like 3 hours away, that's close. i typically drive 5 hours to get to the track. this is an extremely safe track as well, there really isn't anything to run into. and if you break down, you're not exactly stranded either, there will be dozens of other track people there that are always willing to help.

who wants to drive to Iowa for it?

it's in omaha basically, a big/nice city. besides, as close as you are, you could turn around and drive right home and not have to spend any time in a hotel. that's probably what i'll do.

you might want to consider doing something simpler around southern Illinois all the way to ohio

there isn't anything in southern illinois afaik. why do you pick this location anyway? because it's RIGHT NEXT TO YOU perhaps? Blackhawk Farms is in nothern illinois, but is booked for the year. mid-ohio is in ohio obviously, but monkeys will fly outa my butt before we get on that track. iowa can potentially draw people from MN, NB, IA, KS, MO, IL, WI, and some other states that typically get ignored by most everything automotive.

. I guess the most neglected are the midwestern'ers----but Iowa?!?

you don't exactly get to pick whatever state you please. there has to be a track there that's AVAILABLE you know. the only other place i know of we could possibly pull this off is in MN, now how many people wanna drive there?

[tnord]

bring it.

why do you think i'm picking on you anyway?


--anything to get people to show up.

[negular]

damn, thats what I call reverse psychology.

[KiDyNomiTe]

I don't know if you mentioned this or not, but tnord since your up by MN, talk to autoimaging, see if they can come down with the 180, which I am still waiting to see, other than the sh*tty pics and video of it I saw.

What needs to be done is make sure that we have a date and place ASAP, or else it won't happen. I am up for the camping thing, but would rather go on the track. If MAM has no open dates that are out of the way of the ATL convention, then we might have to find a new location, so someone migth as well keep talking to MAM, and someone else should start looking at other tracks somewhere in the Midwest (just in case).

[tnord]

i think those guys at autoimaging are a bunch of douchebags.........hence i haven't talked to them, nor will i ever.

[bbp]

I mentioned this before, OH/IN Chapter of NASA is having an event at MidOhio in April. Just pay the entry and we could have a meet there. Camping would be kinda cold that time of year...

Check their schedule at www.racenasa.com

[DSC]

:) I've been whoreing the mid-ohio event everywhere I can...
even in my sig :p

That was the track I was originally talking to mark&irena about, but it was just too far from everybody, well and too soon.

Are we still going to do this at MAM? From mark&irenas post at the top of page 3 here, it sounded like a no. I'd still be up for it if it was a month or so appart from the national convention.

[negular]

Originally posted by DSC
:) Are we still going to do this at MAM? From mark&irenas post at the top of page 3 here, it sounded like a no. I'd still be up for it if it was a month or so appart from the national convention.

please update, I need to know so I can start saving some money... I hate camping. It would be pretty cool if it was sometime in August... my b-day is August 19, :) I'd take a good amount of cash (and supplies ;)) so we can all party our assses off. :D

[tnord]

apparantly mark and irena have decided to drop this idea.........if there is still LEGITIMATE support for this, i might be willing to take it over.

i'm gonna need a 95% commitment from 15-20 people before i decide to run with it though.

[96SEChick]

Yes, please update us with any decisions, ideas, etc. I originally voted NO because I thought it would be too far away. I just did the MapQuest and it's 8 hrs away--not near as bad as I thought. If Iowa is out, St Louis sounds great, since Oberkill said he can check on info there. Please let us know what's up. I'm very interested in a meet :D

[tnord]

St. Louis?? there's a track there? what is it?

[tnord]

ok......dates i CAN NOT do it..........

anything before june is out

these dates i already have events:
june21
july 26
august 16
august 31
sept 1
sept 13
sept 27

MAM's calendar says "roadcourse open" (not sure exactly what that means)on:
august 16/17 (sat/sun)
sept 13/14 (sat/sun)
oct 25/26 (sat/sun)

days we might be able to double up with other groups:
june 28/29 -- BMWCCA Drivers School -- HIGHLY unlikely
aug 9/10 -- central iowa mustang club -- possible
aug 22/23/24 -- says "central road racing association" --maybe a local body that would give us a group rate, good potential here
oct 18/19 -- says HPM/Pacific pals, could be a corporate day, who knows

those are our options. i really don't give a rats ass about national convention as i doubt people in our area are driving out there anyway. i think racers are more interested in this anyway.

EDIT: i suppose i would skip one of my events to attend if necessary.

[uiuc240]

is there anything besides just a turny track there? i'd love to give everyone a chance to drag against each other...and that's cheaper too.

i'm still in for racing, though.

Eric

[KiDyNomiTe]

MAM has one but i dont think it is done

[mav1178]

Originally posted by James
Money talks.
List in XXX amount of dollars generally how much the fees will be and I gaurantee you'll see Zilvia members - drop like flies.


It's not even about Zilvia members, it's about 240SX enthusiasts in general.

Take this past year's convention for example. With all of the 240 owners in the 500+ mile "sphere of influence" from L.A. (which probably numbers over 200+ people) I had a VERY HARD time trying to fill up 75 spaces in the track event. Hell, Club 4AG has drift events for like $50 and people STILL complain! 240 owners too!

From experience doing track events, the bottom line is that it is a lot of money and time investment. Anything motorsport-related costs MONEY, and the more you run/the better you run, the more money you end up spending (either on events or on the car or on both).

Because the people on this board are spread out over a wide area (USA and Canada and such), it is impossible to pick a location that is satisfactory to everyone. Hell, I put on the LA convention and someone on this forum complained to me about the distance (and even had the nerve to ask me for gas money to attend the event). If this country was only 100 square miles in area, then it would be possible for everyone to attend the event, but since it is so large it is IMPOSSIBLE for the event location to satisfy all. You can only hope to put on an event in a satisfactory location to MOST people (or at least make it the same difficulty for EVERYONE to attend) and let people decide for themselves.

From what I've seen over the past 5-6 years, track events are too cost-prohibitive for 90% of 240 owners. At an average of $100-120 per day plus gas and wear/tear, most 240 owners (college, poor, no income to support spending habits) can't take track events on as a decent hobby... so if anyone here wants to plan a big event, I strongly suggest you make it simple and reduce the costs of said event so that it can appeal to everyone.

If all of us owned NSXs cost would not be a problem to almost everyone; unfortunately the car we have is cheap on the market, and with cheap cars you will find cheap owners that can't afford much. Just have to work with the crowd.

-alex

[mav1178]

Originally posted by James
It's still only January...........
And don't confuse that if this "track meet" doesn't work out that there will not be 240sx meets in the Midwest this whole year.
But let's figure that out in a couple months.

You won't be the only one looking for track event space!

Every track I've dealt with in the California area requires you to give at least 9 months prior notice to reserve track space, and unless you know the GM of the track personally they would require a 30-50% deposit about 4-6 months in advance. If you plan on doing this event THIS YEAR, you would need to plan NOW and not "in a couple of months".

-alex

[gschroeder78]

Mark me down for a Yes.
I drove to St Louis just to buy my POS 240, I think I could handle IA.

[Justin-ATL]

I'm pretty interested but August is a long way off still...

Total Distance: 938.83 miles
Total Estimated Time: 15 hours, 30 minutes

[gschroeder78]

Originally posted by James
So the original idea got scrapped, right.
Can't the original posters confirm/deny this?
So as it stands now: Tnord is looking for 15-20 hardcore lightweights to join up in his militia :)

Good Edit :D



Tnord: I can give 95% commitment once a definite or mostly definite date is set. Just takes planning to get off of work ortherwise any date will work for me.

Garrett

[tnord]

thank you alex for the support in my request for immediate action. but james is right, it's not going to happen, especially if there isn't "official zilvia backing." whatever :rolleyes:. as of right now, you can can plan on me being there at one of those open track days, join me at your discretion.

[KiDyNomiTe]

if nothing major happens this year, then you might as well start with next year, this way we are able to basically go wherever. It would also be advised to go with another car group. One of the main reasons most zilvian's aren't setup is cuz of lack of info (i.e. price, location, date, safety, instructors, etc..)

I say in the next month find a track that is central, I am assuming that the conventions will always be on the coasts, unless you want to just make this the next convention (in which you can talk to the other forums about it).

If you do want to start thinking of next year I think a website would be a good idea with a preregistration list, this way when it comes to sponsoring then the sponsors can see how many people are going to be going.


Plan for a 2004 convention/track weekend type thing:

By end of February: Talk to as many midwest tracks, find out a ball park price for renting for an entire day. (try to get a date and agenda)

By End of March: A good idea would be to offer a discount to those who preregistered before a certain date.

Not to sure what else is needed, but befre the end of the year, start getting people to pay part of the fee, and talk to some people for sponsors.

Agenda could be something like:

Friday: Meet and greet at some banquet hall or something, maybe som speeches or some ****.

Saturday: Track day (road course, drag strip)

Sunday: Dyno day, car show, tuning

But that is just one agenda, that can be figured out later.

I know some of the dates seem early but its better to be early.

P.S. Someone else would have to do most of the setting up, someone who has a little bit of experience


BTW Tnord I would be up to join you on one of thier open days once I get my car, how much does it cost?

[tnord]

figure $100 +/- $50

[negular]

Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe


next year sounds like a better idea for a Zilvia meet

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by tnord
figure $100 +/- $50

Does this price include instructors riding shotty, or some classes?

If it does I would be up for something in June or July.

[tnord]

it might be included, it might not, i couldn't tell ya.

[Bbandit]

next year will be fine for zilvia meet
any year is fine for me as long as i can meet zilvia people:D

[Dinkage]

I'm game, esp. since its not in CA.

[KiDyNomiTe]

SO....

who wants to help with some planning for next year?

I am not taking this on all by myself, don't have any track expreience, and don't have much of an idea of how to go about it. PM me if you are willing to help, better to start early to get a good date.

[ralphyboy]

I must admit I would like to see it at a track, at least drag racing. As a matter of fact if you could find a nice drag strip with test and tune all day long and an auto-x super close by on the same day or next that would be even better because we would not have to rent out a whole complex and it would not kill us if people did not show up. That could be worked out this year if we wanted to I'm sure.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by ralphyboy
I must admit I would like to see it at a track, at least drag racing. As a matter of fact if you could find a nice drag strip with test and tune all day long and an auto-x super close by on the same day or next that would be even better because we would not have to rent out a whole complex and it would not kill us if people did not show up. That could be worked out this year if we wanted to I'm sure.

Actually that would sound like a good cheap alternative.

How much would renting out a drag strip be?

It would be nice to have a day of drag racing and dynos or something, and a day of autocross.

We could prolly work something with the SCCA to just open up a Zilvia date where we could just all autocros and winners get soem special Zilvia net trophy, and can be the first one to be car of the month (if West ever decides on doing that).

[96SEChick]

Originally posted by ralphyboy
I must admit I would like to see it at a track, at least drag racing. As a matter of fact if you could find a nice drag strip with test and tune all day long and an auto-x super close by on the same day or next that would be even better because we would not have to rent out a whole complex and it would not kill us if people did not show up. That could be worked out this year if we wanted to I'm sure.

This sounds like an awesome plan!!

[ralphyboy]

I'm really no good at oganizing things but I have looked up the events at the two drag strips around here and any soloII events in the same area ( St. Louis MO ish ), at Gateway International Raceway ( they have an extreamly nice drag strip ) they have a test and tune on the 6th of June, Fri night thing I think ( I don't know for sure I will call tomorrow and tell you acctual times ) and on the 8th:Sun there is a soloII event the main ampitheater UMB Bank Paviilion. These two locations are not what would consider close together, they are within comfertable driving distace of each other. and we would get all day Sat to just get to know each other and form our little clicks bla-bla. At Mid America Raceway ( not nearly as nice a track kinda has a small hill that you go up then back down but probably will not scrutanize the cars in inspection much more familiar with domestics, I of course cannot guarantee this ) they have a test and tune all day long on June 22nd:Sun and on that same day there is another soloII event at the UMB Bank Pavillion. Again not close but....

http://wcsllc.net/stlsolo/2003Schedule.htm
http://www.gatewayraceway.com/html/weekly_racing.html
http://www.midamericaraceway.com/ go to test and tune.

O-well there is my .02 cents as they say

[KiDyNomiTe]

Originally posted by ralphyboy
I'm really no good at oganizing things but I have looked up the events at the two drag strips around here and any soloII events in the same area ( St. Louis MO ish ), at Gateway International Raceway ( they have an extreamly nice drag strip ) they have a test and tune on the 6th of June, Fri night thing I think ( I don't know for sure I will call tomorrow and tell you acctual times ) and on the 8th:Sun there is a soloII event the main ampitheater UMB Bank Paviilion. These two locations are not what would consider close together, they are within comfertable driving distace of each other. and we would get all day Sat to just get to know each other and form our little clicks bla-bla. At Mid America Raceway ( not nearly as nice a track kinda has a small hill that you go up then back down but probably will not scrutanize the cars in inspection much more familiar with domestics, I of course cannot guarantee this ) they have a test and tune all day long on June 22nd:Sun and on that same day there is another soloII event at the UMB Bank Pavillion. Again not close but....

http://wcsllc.net/stlsolo/2003Schedule.htm
http://www.gatewayraceway.com/html/weekly_racing.html
http://www.midamericaraceway.com/ go to test and tune.

O-well there is my .02 cents as they say

When i get home I will look around to see what other drag strips around the middle of the country have to offer, I think something in June/July would be best (stay away from the convention).

Also how many people show up to the test and tune thing, cuz we don't want to be too overcrowded.

I will e-mail the SCCA and some drag strips and if any of them have some good plans I'll make another thread.

[ralphyboy]

O.K. if you think we could do the above thing on the 6th 7th and 8th of June ( this would give people nearly 2 months until the 240 convention ) I will get all the info to everybody that they would need. I will not have any idea how much racing we will get to do due to the fact that these are open to anyone days at the events above. I will look into times, hotel info, reserving a nearby park for Sat. so we can have a place to hang and BBQ or something, getting T-shirts made up and food Sat's get together. if you would be interested E-Mail me at [email protected] and IF we can get enough definates we can do this. Price would be dependant on Hotel/Motel cost, Park reservation cost and event cost. I would think it would be comparable or less than any other meet like this due to the fact we do not have to rent out any facilities. I will contact anyone interested with prices and options.

[ralphyboy]

Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe
When i get home I will look around to see what other drag strips around the middle of the country have to offer, I think something in June/July would be best (stay away from the convention).

Also how many people show up to the test and tune thing, cuz we don't want to be too overcrowded.

I will e-mail the SCCA and some drag strips and if any of them have some good plans I'll make another thread.

Cool, either way. I was writing at the same time you were so I don't want it to look like I was steppin on any toes :D

[KiDyNomiTe]

I think we could probably pull off something small, nothing liek a convention crowd, but more like 20-40 cars for the midwest area, that way we could get our fair chance at each thing. Saturday would probably be the best thing for people to come to, since it would be like a big BBQ meet and greet and photoshoot type thing.

This would be a very cheap thing, it will just cost whatever the admission to drag race is, and whatever it costs to autocross, and the BBQ meet would just be a pot luck type thing, where a couple people just go out and get some grillables and chips and stuff.

Oh f*ck I just realized something about these dates, 2F2F comes out then, i gotta see it :D , haha just kidding but I won't be able to make it, I got graduation on Sunday the 8th, so umm unless everyone else wants to work with those dates, then I will look for a different date, but don't let me stop you from having fun.

[ralphyboy]

I know everbody won't be able to make somthing we set up but maybe we can try another date. At Gateway on certain tues nights the have test and tune for street tire cars should be able to get more runs in without the slick guys takeing all the officials time if we want to try a sun-tues thing we would all have plenty of time to get it fixed up with our jobs. We could also try to find a track elseware in the mid west with different dates available. I'm game for any ideas I just would like to get something going if I can help cool. ( For the record 20 cars would be fine by me )

[96SEChick]

I'll see what Tulsa has to offer as well. We have auto-x and will be split between 2 different locations for the NeOKla SCCA. Both are about 45 minutes from Tulsa. But we also have a decent drag strip that does T-n-T's, I think they're on Fridays. I'll check to see what the schedule looks like and I'll let you guys know. The Texas people would be able to make it too since it's not too far from them. So, we could easily have MO, AR, KS, TX crowd without travelling too terribly far.

[tnord]

how are you trying to involve the SCCA with this? cause i got news for you, i'm 95% sure that they won't create an event just for you guys.

[96SEChick]

Originally posted by tnord
how are you trying to involve the SCCA with this? cause i got news for you, i'm 95% sure that they won't create an event just for you guys.

I understand that. I know we won't be able to get our own SCCA event, but we could still use that as part of our meet--since there's pretty much no way we can reserve a real track for this year because they're probably all booked up.

Our SCCA in NeOK already has good turnouts & it would be great to have another 20 cars there, especially if all 20 are 240SX's or Nissans. We could just go and do that on the Sunday after our Saturday of getting to know each other after possibly drag-racing on Friday night--if we want to try to make this a 3-day event (Fri, Sat, Sun).

[kandyflip445]

ooooOOOoo....I'd be up for the OK one assuming I find a damn 240 by then...(this is getting to be a problem for me).:rolleyes:

[AceInHole]

I'm in for the August big meet (i've skipped into here from the first post)... and hoping my car will be off its monthly by then, or by any time soon with another meet.

[KiDyNomiTe]

Ralphyboy are you still going to be putting this thing together.

If not then I will prolly juss make another thread to first decide on a new location that is central, but stick with your idea to have just like 2/3 day autocross and a little meet weekend thing.

[wherezmytofu]

IN LIKE FLYNN!

[96SEChick]

Originally posted by wherezmytofu
IN LIKE FLYNN!

Where has my Tofu been? I haven't seen you around much lately! I've missed you!

[ralphyboy]

nobody seemed really interested. I stopped paying attn to this thread, sorry for the time delay. if I can get enough people to make it our worth while to try to do it I can certainly set something up on my end. Check out hotel costs, rent a park for the meet and greet, set up directions for everyone so you don't get lost, ect, ect. again if you e-mail me directly I can know what kind of interest there is for real and then let you decide on what we want to do next. We only have a few months to decide, I would love to. [email protected]

[wherezmytofu]

Originally posted by 96SEChick
Where has my Tofu been? I haven't seen you around much lately! I've missed you! working on project *top secret* hopefully done for the upcoming meets :D

[96SEChick]

Originally posted by wherezmytofu
working on project *top secret* hopefully done for the upcoming meets :D

You can tell me--I can take a secret! So, when are you going to get another picture of your beautiful lady for your sig?

[wherezmytofu]

Originally posted by 96SEChick
You can tell me--I can take a secret! So, when are you going to get another picture of your beautiful lady for your sig? if i posted it it wouldnt be top secret now would it....hahahhahahahha no more ladies...cuz my lady will be mad :)

[DuffMan]

Tofu's secret project is trying to successfully get a Chicken and Monkey to mate. I believe the finished product will be called a Chonkey, and will be the most desired exotic pet all over the world.

[ralphyboy]

I want to set something up give me a reason.....bump.....:(