car wont start... after five speed swap...

[Pblesh85]

Ok, I just finished my five speed swap...sort of...

I read that in order to start your car you need to jump the top connector. That is in a s14 ka swap. My motor and car is a 93 coupe with a 96 black top s13 sr.


The connector in the s14 looks like it has 2 wires(see picture), mine has 3 wires. 2 im not sure what they are, the other is a ground.

I connected the 2 wires to each other and the ground to the frame. Is that not right ?

Also where do the green and black wires for the reverse lights go ? As in what do the hook up to ? They go from the switch on the tranny to the ???


My new problem, I finally got it to start but it wont go into gear when its running. If you turn it off it goes it just fine. So I try to start it while its in gear. It lurched forward but I had my ebrake on and foot on the brake(my clutch is all the way on the floor because it is not bled yet. I also cant get fluid in the line. Or at least enough to give the pedal a solid feel. I try pumping it with my hand, then loosening the bleeder screw and it comes out in a solid stream. No air bubbles...). It then died. I tried to start it in neutral and now there is NO POWER AT ALL !!! It does not even light up my dash. I have a 100amp fuse running to my batt.(in the trunk) and it is not blown. My fuses look ok. Im not sure what happened.

Can anyone help before im forced to have someone else fix it or sell it and start at square one...

[Pblesh85]

Here is pic of the wires, sorry bout the crappy cam. Its what I got.

Pics:

http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/Pblesh85/Wiring/

[Black240Ct]

the green and black go to the green and green/white on the reverse switch on the tranny. its the closest plug to the bell housing.

and for the s14 'top' plug. on s13's its not the top plug. on s13's its a plug with a fat black and a fat white(tanish) wire. connect those two wires together and the car thinks its in automatic park and will start.

as for the plug you have wired and grounded right now. i would rethink that. im pretty sure you dont want those set up like you have it.

[Black240Ct]

i believe the two wire plug you need to connect together to start the car is underneath the fuse box not on the side.

[Jonnie Fraz]

Ok those wires look a little thin. Mine were thicker gauge and there were only two wires.
Here is a pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/Plug-closeup.jpg

[240sxdrifterS14]

Ok those wires look a little thin. Mine were thicker gauge and there were only two wires.
Here is a pic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v635/Fraz-Man-One/Plug-closeup.jpg


Those are the two wires you have to jump, just make the black wire touch the tan one and presto it should work, also the car should start without the clutch depressed

[Pblesh85]

Ok I will give it a try. So what connector do I need to run for the reverse lights ? Is it still a green and black wire ? What does it run to ?

[Pblesh85]

anone have a clue to my new problem ?

[Black240Ct]

the green and black go to the green and green/white on the reverse switch on the tranny. its the closest plug to the bell housing.

i said this ish already.
the green and black wires in your hand in that pic go to the first sensor on your tranny, polarity doesn't matter its just a ground switch

[Pblesh85]

i said this ish already.
the green and black wires in your hand in that pic go to the first sensor on your tranny, polarity doesn't matter its just a ground switch

I got that part, there is a new prob. look at the bold print in my first post.

[DreamN]

is your clutch wired in?

[Pblesh85]

What do you mean ? wired in ?

[DreamN]

your clutch pedal. it has a sensor that you're suppose to connect. maybe the fact that you're using a 96 SR makes it necessary for you to wire it in. where as with my 5 spd swap I didn't have to (93 Coupe w/ 93 KA24DE).

[Pblesh85]

No its not wired in. That sensor is only used to tell if the pedal is on the floor. Its the clutch safety switch. It should not matter.

[Jonnie Fraz]

Ok... did you use the clutch damper. I had the same problem until I bypassed the damper. I just ran the hard line into the soft line that goes into the slave. You will have to bend the hard line like 180 degrees to fit into the soft line.

Hope this helps

[Clowny]

did you swap the clutch when you installed it? a buddy of mine had the same prob after he installed a new clutch in his miata. turned out the clutch disk was put in backwards.

[Pblesh85]

There is no more dampener system, I use a direct line from my cm to my slave(Im drawing a blank on the brand).

And its a new exedy kit, the disc is in correctly.

[clark]

maybe you're having a problem because you followed a procedure designed for an S14 swap....

you have an S13 shell and an S13 SR...why are you even referencing S14 KA?????

i had no problems when i did my swap and i pretty much half assed it. search google for s13 5 speed swap or some bull shit. there is a rather good writeup on "one of the other nissan forums" that i'd rather not mention on this board.

i followed it and i had no problems.

you should also take care of your mechanical problems. bleed your clutch system properly. make sure you have no loose connections and make sure you didn't hook shit up wrong.

the car should start without the clutch depressed in neutral anyway since you are originally manual. bypass the fuckin grey connector

from the looks of this picture:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/Pblesh85/Wiring/w1.jpg

what is the red and the white wire? why are they looped? i don't remember looping that shit...or maybe i just can't make out what it is since the quality blows.

and please get rid of those shitty ass butt connectors...please use solder and heat shrinks.

bitches will laugh if they see those butt connectors


sorry for being harsh, i just got off of work and just got my elictricity bill and it is ridic

i'm really a nice guy

[Pblesh85]

maybe you're having a problem because you followed a procedure designed for an S14 swap....

you have an S13 shell and an S13 SR...why are you even referencing S14 KA?????

i had no problems when i did my swap and i pretty much half assed it. search google for s13 5 speed swap or some bull shit. there is a rather good writeup on "one of the other nissan forums" that i'd rather not mention on this board.

i followed it and i had no problems.

you should also take care of your mechanical problems. bleed your clutch system properly. make sure you have no loose connections and make sure you didn't hook shit up wrong.

the car should start without the clutch depressed in neutral anyway since you are originally manual. bypass the fuckin grey connector

from the looks of this picture:
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m205/Pblesh85/Wiring/w1.jpg

what is the red and the white wire? why are they looped? i don't remember looping that shit...or maybe i just can't make out what it is since the quality blows.

and please get rid of those shitty ass butt connectors...please use solder and heat shrinks.

bitches will laugh if they see those butt connectors


sorry for being harsh, i just got off of work and just got my elictricity bill and it is ridic

i'm really a nice guy

I should have made a new post for my new problem. I thought that 4 posts on the same car was a bit much.

Im pretty sure that bleeding and adjusting my clutch will solve my mechanical prob. What im not sure about is why my power shut off. This is what my new prob is.

My new problem, I finally got it to start but it wont go into gear when its running. If you turn it off it goes it just fine. So I try to start it while its in gear. It lurched forward but I had my ebrake on and foot on the brake(my clutch is all the way on the floor because it is not bled yet. I also cant get fluid in the line. Or at least enough to give the pedal a solid feel. I try pumping it with my hand, then loosening the bleeder screw and it comes out in a solid stream. No air bubbles...). It then died. I tried to start it in neutral and now there is NO POWER AT ALL !!! It does not even light up my dash. I have a 100amp fuse running to my batt.(in the trunk) and it is not blown. My fuses look ok. Im not sure what happened.

I sorted out the connector issue. The one I needed was under the ones I showed in the pic. And I was only using the s14 write up due to the fact it was a very detailed write up. I did not think they would be all that different seeing as my car had a dual cam in it from the factory... MY bad, you live and you learn.