Short Thow Shifter

[Vayber]

I did a lot of search within the forum and found out that most people like C's or B&M short throw. Has anyone heard of a V2 short throw shifter. I am going more for the C's now but any input would be great.

P.S. What does notchy mean?? I have seen that a lot when talking about the feel

[SlideWell]

i loved my B&M on my old 240 with a KA. not sure about SR tho. people have told me they arent font of them on the SR.

[LA_phantom_240]

I did a lot of search within the forum and found out that most people like C's or B&M short throw. Has anyone heard of a V2 short throw shifter. I am going more for the C's now but any input would be great.

P.S. What does notchy mean?? I have seen that a lot when talking about the feel

Well notchy would be the opposite of a nice smooth shift. The stock would be loose at best. The B&M (the first version at least), when I had it was 'notchy'. It took a little effort to get it into gear, and you could 'feel' where the gear was so to speak. Nice and sporty feel, but a bit rough around the edges, ya know?

[Flaco S14]

i have the circuit sport short shifter and im really satisfied with it. good price nice feel to it. i got mine at phase2

[speedfiend]

I personally have the tomei short shifter on my sr and I love it. Nice and short gears but not notchy feeling at all. Kinda hard to find though. Checkout rhdjapan.com for one, he usually has them.
Cameron

[Harris]

The B&M (the first version at least), when I had it was 'notchy'. It took a little effort to get it into gear, and you could 'feel' where the gear was so to speak. Nice and sporty feel, but a bit rough around the edges, ya know?


I have the revised B&M shifter I guess (bought in '07). What I like about is the little effort required to get it into any of the gears. I used it on my SR20 for two years. Now that I'm going back to a KA24DE, I'll be using the shifter with the KA too. I'll post my opinion on it is with the KA if you want, but I have a feeling it'll be just the same as it was with the SR20.

What I don't like about the shifter is the price, but then again, you do get what you pay for, and I got a nice product that delivered well.

[1cleanS14_Vancity]

i have the circuit sport short shifter and im really satisfied with it. good price nice feel to it. i got mine at phase2

Did you get the Version 1 or 2? From what I gathered its just 10% difference in the throw

[n_my_coupe]

i have an older b&m ss and i like it on my ka i'd say reasonable effort to shift feels good though

[Propaganda]

I think the general consensus between version 1 and 2 is that the first version vibrated at high rpms.

[SlideWell]

i had version 2, and it was the best $300 spent on my car since my KA was stock.

[civilized_drifter]

i love my b&m . it not hard at all to get into 5th gear. there is also no play side to side while in gears compared to my megan short shifter in my first 240

[projectRDM]

i loved my B&M on my old 240 with a KA. not sure about SR tho. people have told me they arent font of them on the SR.

Doesn't make any sense, they're the same transmission.

[SlideWell]

Doesn't make any sense, they're the same transmission.

sense; most people lack it lol. im just saying what ive heard and my personal experience with the B&M. to me, who wouldnt wanna solid, uber short throw of a shift ;) B&M is the shortest throw shifter ive come across, and the most solid feeling.

[Flaco S14]

i didnt know which one i got but if this is true i got the version 1 because it did vibrate at high rpm but all i did was take off the big metal bulge and but a little electrical tape under it and thats all. i didnt even know there was a version 2 i would have gone with that.

I think the general consensus between version 1 and 2 is that the first version vibrated at high rpms.

[racepar1]

I am using the findanza short shifter right now and I love it. It was only like $60 or so, it DRASTICALLY reduces the throw, and it is bent so it is easier to reach. The only problem with it is that the bushing on the end of the shifter is too loose so you have to swap it with the bushing from your stock shifter if you want it to feel tight.

[socal_kouki]

I have the B&M short throw on an SR.. the throw is just right. Plus B&M offers you a lifetime warranty.

I agree with the previous comment... there is no sideplay within gears. 5th goes in smooth. Honestly it all depends what clutch you have too... I used to run exedy stage 1 and it felt awsome. OEM feels rotten... And we'll see how the super single feels this weekend.

[silnismo]

save your self some money and just pick up a B & M knock off on ebay and swap the white cap bearing w/ new OEM white cap and throw a boot on it and it works just as good.

I know knock off's are gay but this actually is a cheaper alteritive.

YES, i have owned an ebay knock off and an authentic B&M SS and they feel practically the same.

[jorge1190]

the megan racing v1 on my short shifter is really notchy on my CA18 i prefer stock shifter

[derek_s13]

i had an ebay knockoff b&m and i HATED it. vibrated at anything over 5,000, was notchy as FUCK,
and made a distinct noise when going into gear. i never knew about the bushing trick years ago,
so i assumed that this was irreversible. i've heard a new OEM bushing fixes most of this.

but in my case, at the track and events, i preferred the stock shifter any day. knockoff short-throws just took too much effort,
while the stock one can be accurately slammed into gear quickly and easily. why do you think bubble knob trend started?
jap cars using LONGGGG ass shifters cuz it's easier.

short-throws are for drag-racing.



BUT when i bought my new daily, it already had a mr. c's installed, and i love it for daily and moderate drifting use.
i was completely against every short-throw ever, but changed my mind once i drove the mr. c's.
slightlyyy tighter than stock, definitely shorter, and very accurate. i love it.
i would definitely suggest a c's if you can find it.

[derek_s13]

double cock-smoking post

[fliprayzin240sx]

save your self some money and just pick up a B & M knock off on ebay and swap the white cap bearing w/ new OEM white cap and throw a boot on it and it works just as good.

I know knock off's are gay but this actually is a cheaper alteritive.

YES, i have owned an ebay knock off and an authentic B&M SS and they feel practically the same.

eh, I tried that, knock off still vibrated and had a tendency to pop out of 5th gear while cruising. Also, I cant really compare them feeling the same. Knock off just didnt have that same solid feel of the real unit. I thought the same thing at first, that the plastic bushing sucked, swapped that one for a brand new OEM one and still felt the same for the most part.

[silnismo]

Well, the main reason on swapping out the white capped bushing was more of an reliablilty issue, then a change in feel. The one the knock off's come with is pure crap and will most likely fail in time if not swapped.

but when it comes to SS its what ever floats your boat. their already enough to choose from.

and if you want close to stock feel, just go nismo SS. Anything is better then stock IMO.

[burnsauto]

Well, the main reason on swapping out the white capped bushing was more of an reliablilty issue, then a change in feel. The one the knock off's come with is pure crap and will most likely fail in time if not swapped.

but when it comes to SS its what ever floats your boat. their already enough to choose from.

and if you want close to stock feel, just go nismo SS. Anything is better then stock IMO.

The nismo shifter is NOT a short shifter. It just firms them up a little bit.

Doesn't make any sense, they're the same transmission.

Common Misconception - I've had both out of the casings side by side, and the front half of the center section is the same, but the rear section is different with the gear selection fork setup.

but basically the same transmission.

[s13slideways]

Doesn't make any sense, they're the same transmission.

hahaha i was thinking the same thing

[axiomatik]

I've had a Pilot SS (C's copy) for years and love it. Feels firm, throws are good, never had a problem.

[apexi240sx]

i run the nismo short shifter on my sr20, the gear throws are more precise, and about 15% shorter also lil more notchier, vibrates more as well then the stock shifter. nice piece but expensive...

[Tearlessj]

Do aftermarket short shifters still have the angle? With the stock shifter, it seems like you barely move it up to go to 1,3,5. But it angle a lot when in the bottom gears. I would like even throw for all my gears.

[wangan_cruiser]

eh, I tried that, knock off still vibrated and had a tendency to pop out of 5th gear while cruising. Also, I cant really compare them feeling the same. Knock off just didnt have that same solid feel of the real unit. I thought the same thing at first, that the plastic bushing sucked, swapped that one for a brand new OEM one and still felt the same for the most part.


for real the knock off's do pop out from 5th gear while cruisin....but im cool haha i got my short shifter for $10 haha. cant complain

[Flipzide]

Didn't bother to read the thread the responses.

Buy B&M. You won't regret it.

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